Four new Bradford swimming pool sites unveiled as axe still hangs over baths

An artist's impression of the proposed new city centre pool in Nelson Street

Favoured sites for new swimming pools across Bradford are revealed

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FAVOURED sites for new swimming pools across Bradford can be revealed today as a month-long public consultation starts next week over the Council's controversial plans.

Proposals to shut pools in Bingley and Queensbury have already seen protest petitions supported by thousands of people.

Richard Dunn and Bowling pools, which Council chiefs say are also outdated and costly to run, are also facing the axe.

The Telegraph & Argus has already exclusively revealed that the Council has bought a site in Nelson Street for a new city centre pool.

Now we can reveal that three community pools are planned for Sedburgh playing fields near Odsal, Asa Briggs recreation ground in Queensbury and in Squire Lane, Toller.

The city centre pool, proposed for the site of the old Wetherby Engineering building near Trafalgar House police station, would have eight lanes with diving and would cater for all needs from family fun swims to competitive swimming galas.

Three six-lane pools would be built at the other three proposed sites.

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Pool closures
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All the new pools would be 25 metres long and might also contain other amenities such as gyms, plus leisure space inside and outdoors.

Phil Barker, the Council's assistant director of sport and leisure, said the overall aim of the shake-up was to encourage a strong interest in swimming at a young age which might then lead to competition standard.

Councillor Andrew Thornton, the Council's executive member for environment and sport, said the existing swimming pool structure was unsustainable.

"We are very keen to see new, modern facilities built for Bradford people that they will enjoy and are easily accessible," he said.

"There is no getting away from the fact that several of our pools are outdated and costly to maintain. They cannot meet our future needs and are unsustainable.

"Sport England strongly supports our proposed strategy of replacing them with new facilities and then disposing of these older pools.

"Having modern, accessible facilities should encourage more people to become active.

"A new city centre swimming pool would also greatly assist swimming development and help talented swimmers who would like to compete at the higher levels."

Cllr Thornton stressed that no firm decisions on the future of any existing swimming pools had yet been taken and he urged people to take part in the consultation process.

"Everything is on the table to be discussed," he said.

"We want to hear from people about what is the right thing to do and how best to invest in sport and leisure across in the city and district,"

The consultation will last four weeks from Monday and a roadshow will tour key locations including Bingley, Thornbury, Great Horton, Girlington, Queensbury, Halifax Road and Canal Road areas, using leisure centres, community facilities and public venues such as supermarkets.

The Council has pledged that people's views will be fully scrutinised and all financial aspects will then be considered before a business case is produced which is intended to go before the Council's executive later this year.

To have your say go to bradford.gov.uk/consultations.

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7:44am Fri 22 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 57

8:33am Fri 22 Aug 14

llos25 says...

If the artists impression is anything to go by it looks like a 60s communist meeting place .
If the artists impression is anything to go by it looks like a 60s communist meeting place . llos25
  • Score: 33

8:41am Fri 22 Aug 14

bd7 helper says...

Wasting money again
Wasting money again bd7 helper
  • Score: 9

9:12am Fri 22 Aug 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 12

9:27am Fri 22 Aug 14

Mike Strutter says...

Shame two of them have to be built on existing playing fields.

Why not rebuild Richard Dunn ? Oops, of course they can't as they are going to sell it for housing.
Shame two of them have to be built on existing playing fields. Why not rebuild Richard Dunn ? Oops, of course they can't as they are going to sell it for housing. Mike Strutter
  • Score: 35

9:33am Fri 22 Aug 14

johnh1 says...

Hope the pools are big enough that would be a nice change wherever they build them. Decent changing rooms would be a miracle.
Hope the pools are big enough that would be a nice change wherever they build them. Decent changing rooms would be a miracle. johnh1
  • Score: 13

9:37am Fri 22 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.
True but then again, Squire lane to Nelson Street is just over 2 miles. Building 2 new pools within 2 miles of each other seems a waste. The new pool at Sedbergh Field is also barely 2 miles away from the new city center pool.

It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter areas or is that just a coincidence and cover no more than a 3 mile square area.

My biggest concern with Bingley is what will happen to it when it closes. Bingley already has the Bradford and Bingley building stood empty for some time, then the pool will be stood empty. What will happen with that space, knowing Bradford councils track record it will just remain like that forever and a day.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.[/p][/quote]True but then again, Squire lane to Nelson Street is just over 2 miles. Building 2 new pools within 2 miles of each other seems a waste. The new pool at Sedbergh Field is also barely 2 miles away from the new city center pool. It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter areas or is that just a coincidence and cover no more than a 3 mile square area. My biggest concern with Bingley is what will happen to it when it closes. Bingley already has the Bradford and Bingley building stood empty for some time, then the pool will be stood empty. What will happen with that space, knowing Bradford councils track record it will just remain like that forever and a day. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 31

10:15am Fri 22 Aug 14

markjoe says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.
True but then again, Squire lane to Nelson Street is just over 2 miles. Building 2 new pools within 2 miles of each other seems a waste. The new pool at Sedbergh Field is also barely 2 miles away from the new city center pool.

It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter areas or is that just a coincidence and cover no more than a 3 mile square area.

My biggest concern with Bingley is what will happen to it when it closes. Bingley already has the Bradford and Bingley building stood empty for some time, then the pool will be stood empty. What will happen with that space, knowing Bradford councils track record it will just remain like that forever and a day.
"It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter"

That's exactly what they are doing, closing down the conversative area pools and moving them to labour wards. Its a joke of policy to be using.

Let's put closing Bingley pool into perspective, its the pool in the Bradford area which brings in the most money and is the most profitable pool.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.[/p][/quote]True but then again, Squire lane to Nelson Street is just over 2 miles. Building 2 new pools within 2 miles of each other seems a waste. The new pool at Sedbergh Field is also barely 2 miles away from the new city center pool. It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter areas or is that just a coincidence and cover no more than a 3 mile square area. My biggest concern with Bingley is what will happen to it when it closes. Bingley already has the Bradford and Bingley building stood empty for some time, then the pool will be stood empty. What will happen with that space, knowing Bradford councils track record it will just remain like that forever and a day.[/p][/quote]"It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter" That's exactly what they are doing, closing down the conversative area pools and moving them to labour wards. Its a joke of policy to be using. Let's put closing Bingley pool into perspective, its the pool in the Bradford area which brings in the most money and is the most profitable pool. markjoe
  • Score: 16

10:50am Fri 22 Aug 14

oldmaid36 says...

Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.
Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths. oldmaid36
  • Score: 18

10:54am Fri 22 Aug 14

Joedavid says...

oldmaid36 wrote:
Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.
Think it something like this if they update Council pay if they rebuild Government pay.
[quote][p][bold]oldmaid36[/bold] wrote: Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.[/p][/quote]Think it something like this if they update Council pay if they rebuild Government pay. Joedavid
  • Score: 3

11:09am Fri 22 Aug 14

oldmaid36 says...

Joedavid wrote:
oldmaid36 wrote:
Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.
Think it something like this if they update Council pay if they rebuild Government pay.
I'm sure you're spot on there, though new builds in similar areas would be nice.
As a Keighley resident I already feel BMDC use us as a dumping ground for new builds etc and are bottoms of the pile for any funding/improvements (just compare parks).
oops "people" not "please"
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldmaid36[/bold] wrote: Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.[/p][/quote]Think it something like this if they update Council pay if they rebuild Government pay.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you're spot on there, though new builds in similar areas would be nice. As a Keighley resident I already feel BMDC use us as a dumping ground for new builds etc and are bottoms of the pile for any funding/improvements (just compare parks). oops "people" not "please" oldmaid36
  • Score: 6

11:18am Fri 22 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

oldmaid36 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
oldmaid36 wrote: Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.
Think it something like this if they update Council pay if they rebuild Government pay.
I'm sure you're spot on there, though new builds in similar areas would be nice. As a Keighley resident I already feel BMDC use us as a dumping ground for new builds etc and are bottoms of the pile for any funding/improvements (just compare parks). oops "people" not "please"
Anything not Bradford or inner surrounding areas is given a bad deal by Bradford Council.

They are seen as cash cows for the inner city cash sinks.

Ilkley, Menston, Baildon, Bingley, Silsden, etc are only seen good for one thing by Bradford Council, places to build houses and swell the council tax income to cover those who don't pay it.
[quote][p][bold]oldmaid36[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldmaid36[/bold] wrote: Very bottom heavy map. I'm guessing please suggesting using Keighley have never been. I'm not very tall (I get the jokes) and I can stand up in the deep end of the small kidney shaped pool. And as for Shipley, why should I drive for 20mins (triple that at busy times) when there's a lovely pool 5mins away. The money could be put to much better use updating current baths.[/p][/quote]Think it something like this if they update Council pay if they rebuild Government pay.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you're spot on there, though new builds in similar areas would be nice. As a Keighley resident I already feel BMDC use us as a dumping ground for new builds etc and are bottoms of the pile for any funding/improvements (just compare parks). oops "people" not "please"[/p][/quote]Anything not Bradford or inner surrounding areas is given a bad deal by Bradford Council. They are seen as cash cows for the inner city cash sinks. Ilkley, Menston, Baildon, Bingley, Silsden, etc are only seen good for one thing by Bradford Council, places to build houses and swell the council tax income to cover those who don't pay it. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 17

12:03pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Cityman23 says...

llos25 wrote:
If the artists impression is anything to go by it looks like a 60s communist meeting place .
How many have you been to?
[quote][p][bold]llos25[/bold] wrote: If the artists impression is anything to go by it looks like a 60s communist meeting place .[/p][/quote]How many have you been to? Cityman23
  • Score: 3

12:07pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Dewsbrarian says...

Encouraging young people and families to swim is good. Dance studios, etc. also have some value.
My concern is for the disabled and elderly users who currently use Bowling Pool. This pool is one to be axed. The pool is not fancy but, more importantly, is heated to a higher degree. I don't see any mention of facilities for the disabled or elderly in the fancy new centres.
Where are they meant to fit in? Is it only the young and fit who are allowed to enjoy healthy recreation?
Encouraging young people and families to swim is good. Dance studios, etc. also have some value. My concern is for the disabled and elderly users who currently use Bowling Pool. This pool is one to be axed. The pool is not fancy but, more importantly, is heated to a higher degree. I don't see any mention of facilities for the disabled or elderly in the fancy new centres. Where are they meant to fit in? Is it only the young and fit who are allowed to enjoy healthy recreation? Dewsbrarian
  • Score: 14

12:24pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Kamiza2014 says...

Bradford council is now has the opportunity to replace a number of inefficient pools and sport centers. Why cannot one of these pools be 50 Meters similar to the Ponds Forge in Sheffield?

It just seems like another Half Hearted attempt.
Come on Bradford council do it right first time for once and have another sports show piece in the City Center with the potential to attract national/internation
al competitions.
Bradford council is now has the opportunity to replace a number of inefficient pools and sport centers. Why cannot one of these pools be 50 Meters similar to the Ponds Forge in Sheffield? It just seems like another Half Hearted attempt. Come on Bradford council do it right first time for once and have another sports show piece in the City Center with the potential to attract national/internation al competitions. Kamiza2014
  • Score: 17

12:36pm Fri 22 Aug 14

whisky1 says...

So Bingley pool shuts and we get pools in so called "disadvantaged" areas ...quelle surprise.
So Bingley pool shuts and we get pools in so called "disadvantaged" areas ...quelle surprise. whisky1
  • Score: 17

1:54pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Spec0071 says...

Thornbury why would anyone want to go there and why would you build on sedburgh fields a lot of kids play on there is the new swimming baths going to be free cos the fields are
Thornbury why would anyone want to go there and why would you build on sedburgh fields a lot of kids play on there is the new swimming baths going to be free cos the fields are Spec0071
  • Score: 17

2:28pm Fri 22 Aug 14

whisky1 says...

Look at the locations and guess why they are sited where they are. It does not take much imagination
Look at the locations and guess why they are sited where they are. It does not take much imagination whisky1
  • Score: 15

2:34pm Fri 22 Aug 14

llos25 says...

Cityman23 wrote:
llos25 wrote:
If the artists impression is anything to go by it looks like a 60s communist meeting place .
How many have you been to?
I have not been to any but seen a lot in my travels through communist countries.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llos25[/bold] wrote: If the artists impression is anything to go by it looks like a 60s communist meeting place .[/p][/quote]How many have you been to?[/p][/quote]I have not been to any but seen a lot in my travels through communist countries. llos25
  • Score: 9

2:38pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Papa Quebec says...

What I am at a total loss to understand is why the Council is proposing spending large amounts of money on non-statutory services (sport and recreation), when it's cutting statutory services - things it has to do by law, such as libraries.
What I am at a total loss to understand is why the Council is proposing spending large amounts of money on non-statutory services (sport and recreation), when it's cutting statutory services - things it has to do by law, such as libraries. Papa Quebec
  • Score: 15

3:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Mr Bradford says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city.

Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths.

It does make sense.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city. Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths. It does make sense. Mr Bradford
  • Score: -4

3:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Mr Bradford says...

looks good
looks good Mr Bradford
  • Score: -12

4:39pm Fri 22 Aug 14

carolyne74 says...

So for some reason the Council don't think that the children of Bingley aspire to become world class swimmers? They seem to be closing and rebuilding three pools quite close together, so why is Bingley losing out? Keighley isn't a "swimmers" pool, it's a fun pool, so is everyone from this side of Bradford meant to congregate at Shipley?

As far as I can tell, the majority of people in Bingley work and pay taxes, so can we please have some of our money spent here.

Close Richard Dunn and the other two pools if you like, and rebuild wherever you want, but give a quarter of the available money to Bingley Pool for the necessary upgrade.
So for some reason the Council don't think that the children of Bingley aspire to become world class swimmers? They seem to be closing and rebuilding three pools quite close together, so why is Bingley losing out? Keighley isn't a "swimmers" pool, it's a fun pool, so is everyone from this side of Bradford meant to congregate at Shipley? As far as I can tell, the majority of people in Bingley work and pay taxes, so can we please have some of our money spent here. Close Richard Dunn and the other two pools if you like, and rebuild wherever you want, but give a quarter of the available money to Bingley Pool for the necessary upgrade. carolyne74
  • Score: 5

5:26pm Fri 22 Aug 14

oldmaid36 says...

Keighley has a leisure pool not a swimming pool, and is not better than bingley. From Oxenhope it is quicker to get to bingley (0.3 miles more) than Keighley, and you can swim at bingley without scrapping your knees. If you can't fund the right course of action then leave things be.
Keighley has a leisure pool not a swimming pool, and is not better than bingley. From Oxenhope it is quicker to get to bingley (0.3 miles more) than Keighley, and you can swim at bingley without scrapping your knees. If you can't fund the right course of action then leave things be. oldmaid36
  • Score: 10

5:50pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Bantambhoy says...

Mr Bradford wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city.

Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths.

It does make sense.
No, it does not make sense!
Keighley is not a pool for serious / club swimmers and Shipley can be very bad to get to at most times of the day. You obviously have never been to the Keighley pool or you would know it is not bigger than Bingley. The population of Bingley is growing which is obvious by the amount of new building going on which includes the towns Primary Schools. Whilst the council is happy for all this to happen it is neglecting the infrastructure ie shops and sports facilities of which there are none.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city. Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths. It does make sense.[/p][/quote]No, it does not make sense! Keighley is not a pool for serious / club swimmers and Shipley can be very bad to get to at most times of the day. You obviously have never been to the Keighley pool or you would know it is not bigger than Bingley. The population of Bingley is growing which is obvious by the amount of new building going on which includes the towns Primary Schools. Whilst the council is happy for all this to happen it is neglecting the infrastructure ie shops and sports facilities of which there are none. Bantambhoy
  • Score: 8

6:55pm Fri 22 Aug 14

awasteoftime says...

This is just typical of this Labour run Council, they have NO interest in Bingley as there are not enough votes in the area for them. They just wish to close every facility in Bingley, including the Baths, the toilets the shops and maybe the library. The Court house has gone maybe the Police station next. Aldi have had an application submitted since November 2013 and it is still not approved because it is in Bingley, also Labour wish to build on Green Belt.
They should keep the old pool going it is not worn out yet !!!
This is just typical of this Labour run Council, they have NO interest in Bingley as there are not enough votes in the area for them. They just wish to close every facility in Bingley, including the Baths, the toilets the shops and maybe the library. The Court house has gone maybe the Police station next. Aldi have had an application submitted since November 2013 and it is still not approved because it is in Bingley, also Labour wish to build on Green Belt. They should keep the old pool going it is not worn out yet !!! awasteoftime
  • Score: 7

12:02am Sat 23 Aug 14

MrQuinque says...

That image is in no way representative of any pool which could be built on Nelson street, it conveniently omits the 5 storey police station which would be directly behind it for starters.

I have said it before, I will say it again, and I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face, Nelso street it the wrong location for a City Centre pool, it would however be perfect for a relocated combined court complex freeing both the City Park and Drake street prime sites for redevelopment. The Just £4.5 million currently allocated to building new cells for the existing Magistrates court should be put towards this end.

If we are to have a new City centre pool it should be an upgrade to the facitity it is replacing, we deserve world class facilities and the former Royal mail site at Forster Square would provide more than enough room for them. It is large enough to fit full olympic sized swimming and diving pools, a recreational aquatic centre and all the other facilities which would be expected of a world class leisure centre with room to spare, larger than Ponds Forge in Sheffield, the Plymouth life centre or Bristol's Hengrove park. To put it another way you could fit the entire John Charles aquatics centre (Leeds) a full sized indoor Waterpark (Waterworld in Stoke for example) and still have almost as much space for other facilities as Nelson street offers in total.

Now David green will tell you that it has been sold off and as such is out of the question (it wasn't sold when the idea of a City pool was first mooted) but any developer worth their salt will jump at the chance to deliver a leisure centre to rival any combined facility in the UK, there would certainly be more prestige and profit in it for the developer than slapping together another tin shed.

So raise your voices people, Bradford doesn't need mediocre, Bradford needs outstanding, Bradford DESERVES outstanding and it is about time we let the people who are going to want our votes in a few short months how mad it makes us that we are not getting it.
That image is in no way representative of any pool which could be built on Nelson street, it conveniently omits the 5 storey police station which would be directly behind it for starters. I have said it before, I will say it again, and I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face, Nelso street it the wrong location for a City Centre pool, it would however be perfect for a relocated combined court complex freeing both the City Park and Drake street prime sites for redevelopment. The Just £4.5 million currently allocated to building new cells for the existing Magistrates court should be put towards this end. If we are to have a new City centre pool it should be an upgrade to the facitity it is replacing, we deserve world class facilities and the former Royal mail site at Forster Square would provide more than enough room for them. It is large enough to fit full olympic sized swimming and diving pools, a recreational aquatic centre and all the other facilities which would be expected of a world class leisure centre with room to spare, larger than Ponds Forge in Sheffield, the Plymouth life centre or Bristol's Hengrove park. To put it another way you could fit the entire John Charles aquatics centre (Leeds) a full sized indoor Waterpark (Waterworld in Stoke for example) and still have almost as much space for other facilities as Nelson street offers in total. Now David green will tell you that it has been sold off and as such is out of the question (it wasn't sold when the idea of a City pool was first mooted) but any developer worth their salt will jump at the chance to deliver a leisure centre to rival any combined facility in the UK, there would certainly be more prestige and profit in it for the developer than slapping together another tin shed. So raise your voices people, Bradford doesn't need mediocre, Bradford needs outstanding, Bradford DESERVES outstanding and it is about time we let the people who are going to want our votes in a few short months how mad it makes us that we are not getting it. MrQuinque
  • Score: 10

10:21am Sat 23 Aug 14

Bradford56 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.
Agree, Bingley is hardly the Yorkshire Dales!
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.[/p][/quote]Agree, Bingley is hardly the Yorkshire Dales! Bradford56
  • Score: 0

11:50am Sat 23 Aug 14

carolyne74 says...

Bradford56 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.
Agree, Bingley is hardly the Yorkshire Dales!
The thing is that Keighley isn't really a "swimmers" pool, it's a fun pool. You can't easily do lengths in it, plus it's freezing. According to this article, the idea is to get children swimming to a world class level - that's not going to happen at Keighley. Why remove a pool from our end of Bradford and build four new ones at the other end?
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.[/p][/quote]Agree, Bingley is hardly the Yorkshire Dales![/p][/quote]The thing is that Keighley isn't really a "swimmers" pool, it's a fun pool. You can't easily do lengths in it, plus it's freezing. According to this article, the idea is to get children swimming to a world class level - that's not going to happen at Keighley. Why remove a pool from our end of Bradford and build four new ones at the other end? carolyne74
  • Score: 5

11:57am Sat 23 Aug 14

carolyne74 says...

Mr Bradford wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city.

Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths.

It does make sense.
Have you been to Keighley pool? For a decent swimmer, it's rubbish. And it's bloody freezing. We won't get any world class swimmers coming out of those facilities.

We have lots of children in Bingley who need their swimming lessons - shipping nearly 60 kids (and that's just my daughter's school) to Shipley or Keighley isn't really feasible, in my opinion. And don't forget, although the town is still fighting it, the council has given permission for 400+ houses to be built here - we need more facilities, not fewer!

Bingley residents pay their taxes, so why should the council be allowed to take our facilities away and rebuild them at the other end of the city?

Besides, we already have one massive empty building in Bingley, we don't need another.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city. Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths. It does make sense.[/p][/quote]Have you been to Keighley pool? For a decent swimmer, it's rubbish. And it's bloody freezing. We won't get any world class swimmers coming out of those facilities. We have lots of children in Bingley who need their swimming lessons - shipping nearly 60 kids (and that's just my daughter's school) to Shipley or Keighley isn't really feasible, in my opinion. And don't forget, although the town is still fighting it, the council has given permission for 400+ houses to be built here - we need more facilities, not fewer! Bingley residents pay their taxes, so why should the council be allowed to take our facilities away and rebuild them at the other end of the city? Besides, we already have one massive empty building in Bingley, we don't need another. carolyne74
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Sat 23 Aug 14

BD16 says...

markjoe wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.
True but then again, Squire lane to Nelson Street is just over 2 miles. Building 2 new pools within 2 miles of each other seems a waste. The new pool at Sedbergh Field is also barely 2 miles away from the new city center pool.

It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter areas or is that just a coincidence and cover no more than a 3 mile square area.

My biggest concern with Bingley is what will happen to it when it closes. Bingley already has the Bradford and Bingley building stood empty for some time, then the pool will be stood empty. What will happen with that space, knowing Bradford councils track record it will just remain like that forever and a day.
"It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter"

That's exactly what they are doing, closing down the conversative area pools and moving them to labour wards. Its a joke of policy to be using.

Let's put closing Bingley pool into perspective, its the pool in the Bradford area which brings in the most money and is the most profitable pool.
This is the thin end of the wedge now that Labour have taken control of most of the councils scrutiny committees. That's democracy for you!
[quote][p][bold]markjoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Well they could go to Shipley or Keighley. Hardly on the other side of the world.[/p][/quote]True but then again, Squire lane to Nelson Street is just over 2 miles. Building 2 new pools within 2 miles of each other seems a waste. The new pool at Sedbergh Field is also barely 2 miles away from the new city center pool. It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter areas or is that just a coincidence and cover no more than a 3 mile square area. My biggest concern with Bingley is what will happen to it when it closes. Bingley already has the Bradford and Bingley building stood empty for some time, then the pool will be stood empty. What will happen with that space, knowing Bradford councils track record it will just remain like that forever and a day.[/p][/quote]"It's seems all 4 of these new proposed pools are in Labour voter" That's exactly what they are doing, closing down the conversative area pools and moving them to labour wards. Its a joke of policy to be using. Let's put closing Bingley pool into perspective, its the pool in the Bradford area which brings in the most money and is the most profitable pool.[/p][/quote]This is the thin end of the wedge now that Labour have taken control of most of the councils scrutiny committees. That's democracy for you! BD16
  • Score: 1

9:27pm Sat 23 Aug 14

glorious1911 says...

whisky1 wrote:
Look at the locations and guess why they are sited where they are. It does not take much imagination
Be interesting to see whether they cater for burkha bathers
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Look at the locations and guess why they are sited where they are. It does not take much imagination[/p][/quote]Be interesting to see whether they cater for burkha bathers glorious1911
  • Score: 4

2:43am Sun 24 Aug 14

Sarah/1980 says...

Stop complaining people be happy for what you have people are dying a ll over the world.

Maybe pools in bingley not very popular a fresh start or change is always good. Honestly bradfordians need to say good things im bored of the compliants
Stop complaining people be happy for what you have people are dying a ll over the world. Maybe pools in bingley not very popular a fresh start or change is always good. Honestly bradfordians need to say good things im bored of the compliants Sarah/1980
  • Score: -5

10:18am Sun 24 Aug 14

Bikerbeardy says...

Mr Bradford wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So the people of Bingley will lose out.
Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near.
Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?
Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city.

Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths.

It does make sense.
Knackers, Bingley Pool has served the local community for many, many decades, why should it be closed, its a town of beauty, those who think not probably just wished they lived there, I would not dream of going to the pool at Keighley, went once, never again, its a fun pool, you cannot swim properly there, plus there are so many asian youths there larking about and getting chucked out, it has the same reputation as manningham baths had, keep the baths open, please.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So the people of Bingley will lose out. Their pool will close and a new pool will be built nowhere near. Why not build a pool in Bingley where the old Bradford and Bingley building is then close the other one down?[/p][/quote]Bingley is a small town, It makes more sense building it in the city. Bingley is also in between Shipley and Keighley which both have bigger hand better pools with more facilities than Bingley baths. It does make sense.[/p][/quote]Knackers, Bingley Pool has served the local community for many, many decades, why should it be closed, its a town of beauty, those who think not probably just wished they lived there, I would not dream of going to the pool at Keighley, went once, never again, its a fun pool, you cannot swim properly there, plus there are so many asian youths there larking about and getting chucked out, it has the same reputation as manningham baths had, keep the baths open, please. Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 8

5:44pm Sun 24 Aug 14

awasteoftime says...

glorious1911 wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Look at the locations and guess why they are sited where they are. It does not take much imagination
Be interesting to see whether they cater for burkha bathers
I think you have got it in one, Bingley is not able to supply that type of customer in adequate numbers so far, but give it a few more years when all the refuges are shipped over, then the baths will be kept open !!!
[quote][p][bold]glorious1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Look at the locations and guess why they are sited where they are. It does not take much imagination[/p][/quote]Be interesting to see whether they cater for burkha bathers[/p][/quote]I think you have got it in one, Bingley is not able to supply that type of customer in adequate numbers so far, but give it a few more years when all the refuges are shipped over, then the baths will be kept open !!! awasteoftime
  • Score: 3

3:09pm Wed 27 Aug 14

son123 says...

Why not work on the ones weve already got. Oh yes thats it spend alot more building ones weve already got to abandon the ones we had or turn them into housing site's. Makes sense doesnt it. Revamp the ones weve got and turn new sites into housing! X
Why not work on the ones weve already got. Oh yes thats it spend alot more building ones weve already got to abandon the ones we had or turn them into housing site's. Makes sense doesnt it. Revamp the ones weve got and turn new sites into housing! X son123
  • Score: 0

8:43am Fri 29 Aug 14

chattyone12 says...

Why build on sedgberg fields??? They are there for outdoor sports not to build on. There is a perfectly good site at richard dunns. If its dated fine redo it. But why close it leave it then build others? Money wasted again!!! Surely people of bradford district should be able to have their say. Parking at these facilities eg nelson street will be a nightmare. There is also a new school there, which will make this an even busier place!
Why build on sedgberg fields??? They are there for outdoor sports not to build on. There is a perfectly good site at richard dunns. If its dated fine redo it. But why close it leave it then build others? Money wasted again!!! Surely people of bradford district should be able to have their say. Parking at these facilities eg nelson street will be a nightmare. There is also a new school there, which will make this an even busier place! chattyone12
  • Score: 0

6:20pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Gazhod says...

The council prints " The Council is looking to develop four new leisure centers across the District....." Clearly not.

http://www.esd.org.u
k/esdtoolkit/Communi
ties/DigitalInclusio
n/heatmap.aspx?id=32

Bingley and Bingley rural are bang central!!!
The council prints " The Council is looking to develop four new leisure centers across the District....." Clearly not. http://www.esd.org.u k/esdtoolkit/Communi ties/DigitalInclusio n/heatmap.aspx?id=32 Bingley and Bingley rural are bang central!!! Gazhod
  • Score: 0

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