Political groups divided by call to fly Israeli flag outside Bradford City Hall

Political groups divided by call to fly Israeli flag outside Bradford City Hall

A Palestine flag is waved by a supporter in front of Bradford City Hall during a rally

FOR: Conservative group deputy leader Cllr Simon Cooke has supported the call

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , City Hall Reporter

BRADFORD'S political parties are divided over a call to fly the Israeli flag next to City Hall.

Last month, the Council raised the Palestinian flag in Centenary Square, to mark the toll of the conflict on civilians in Gaza, following requests from the community.

All the major political parties were said to have backed the idea.

But the move proved a controversial one, with Shipley Conservative MP Philip Davies among those criticising the decision.

Now the Council has received a request from a member of the public to fly the Israeli flag, which has won the backing of the Conservatives, but not the Labour or Liberal Democrat groups.

Deputy Conservative leader, Councillor Simon Cooke, said the group was supporting the call to fly the Israeli flag on two grounds: firstly, that it would note the loss of life of Israeli citizens in the latest conflict, and secondly that it would show that "contrary to recent statements from George Galloway MP, they are as welcome in Bradford as anyone else".

He said: "The Conservative Group, when consulted over the flying of the Palestinian flag in Centenary Square, agreed to the proposal on the understanding that it was to be done to mark the loss of life among the residents of Gaza and that if a similar request was made for the flag of Israel to be flown, then the Council would be supportive of such a suggestion."

Both Labour and the Lib Dems were keen to stress that they were not opposed to the principle of flying the Israeli flag, just that in their view this particular request had not been justified.

Councillor David Green, leader of the Council and the Labour group, said in this case it had not been "clear as to the genuine nature of the request".

But he said the Labour group was not opposed to any flying of the Israeli flag.

He said: "We don't take those kinds of fundamentalist positions."

Lib Dem group leader Councillor Jeanette Sunderland said she was concerned the matter was becoming "a bit of a circus" and that she wanted the Council to concentrate on delivering local services.

She said: "It appears to be some sort of tit-for-tat exercise."

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10:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Not sure if supporting vile Israeli terrorists is a good thing.
Not sure if supporting vile Israeli terrorists is a good thing. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -22

11:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Haji says...

I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid.

Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.
I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid. Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval. Haji
  • Score: -36

11:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Lucyrob says...

None should be flown and yes it should be considered as this is already starting to cause tension in our home town. We want this war to end, not create another one.
None should be flown and yes it should be considered as this is already starting to cause tension in our home town. We want this war to end, not create another one. Lucyrob
  • Score: 74

11:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

They only do damage! says...

The Labour, Lib dem parties have gone too far in promoting immigration. They come across has only having one sided points of view. There are different faiths in Bradford that want there opinion been heard!!. The Israelis have had terrible atrocitys happen to them, just has much has the Palestinians have.
Bradford council had no right to raise the Palestine flag on behalf of a loud small minority. It is now time to raise the Israel flag loud and proud for the tolerant majority of Bradford.
The Labour, Lib dem parties have gone too far in promoting immigration. They come across has only having one sided points of view. There are different faiths in Bradford that want there opinion been heard!!. The Israelis have had terrible atrocitys happen to them, just has much has the Palestinians have. Bradford council had no right to raise the Palestine flag on behalf of a loud small minority. It is now time to raise the Israel flag loud and proud for the tolerant majority of Bradford. They only do damage!
  • Score: 39

12:00am Thu 14 Aug 14

Oldwestbowling says...

On one hand I'd be happy for neither flag on City Hall because some people in Bradford are getting all hysterical over the conflict but are conveniently thousands of miles away from the conflict. Just take a look at the Bradford Boycott facebook page and see the hatred on there from some posters towards the Jews. Look at the sick comments on there regarding the Israelis who came to Bradford to put 2 fingers up at Galloway. Naturally the same old threat has raised it's head again.....if you fly the Israeli flag then we'll riot. Nowt new there then. On the other hand it'll show old Galloway that he doesn't speak on behalf of everyone with his outrageous comments even if his egotistical arrogance lets him think he does.
On one hand I'd be happy for neither flag on City Hall because some people in Bradford are getting all hysterical over the conflict but are conveniently thousands of miles away from the conflict. Just take a look at the Bradford Boycott facebook page and see the hatred on there from some posters towards the Jews. Look at the sick comments on there regarding the Israelis who came to Bradford to put 2 fingers up at Galloway. Naturally the same old threat has raised it's head again.....if you fly the Israeli flag then we'll riot. Nowt new there then. On the other hand it'll show old Galloway that he doesn't speak on behalf of everyone with his outrageous comments even if his egotistical arrogance lets him think he does. Oldwestbowling
  • Score: 39

12:22am Thu 14 Aug 14

They only do damage! says...

George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.
George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag. They only do damage!
  • Score: 35

12:54am Thu 14 Aug 14

Spocks says...

Haji wrote:
I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid.

Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.
My mistake I that it was Gaza that was ruled by Hamas not Israel !!!!!!! I apologise now for my mistake.
It would have been better if Bradford Council had stuck to their policy of not flying foreign flags or maybe flown both in recognition of the innocents being hurt on both sides but unfortunatly it's too late for that now
[quote][p][bold]Haji[/bold] wrote: I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid. Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.[/p][/quote]My mistake I that it was Gaza that was ruled by Hamas not Israel !!!!!!! I apologise now for my mistake. It would have been better if Bradford Council had stuck to their policy of not flying foreign flags or maybe flown both in recognition of the innocents being hurt on both sides but unfortunatly it's too late for that now Spocks
  • Score: 26

1:32am Thu 14 Aug 14

arshid says...

They only do damage! wrote:
George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.
Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow
[quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.[/p][/quote]Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow arshid
  • Score: -23

2:19am Thu 14 Aug 14

They only do damage! says...

Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!.
HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY
EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK.

HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES.

ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL.

CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES.

SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES.

REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION.

There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.
Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!. HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK. HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES. ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL. CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES. SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES. REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION. There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them. They only do damage!
  • Score: 21

6:29am Thu 14 Aug 14

Ickerydickerydoo says...

They only do damage! wrote:
Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!.
HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY
EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK.

HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES.

ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL.

CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES.

SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES.

REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION.

There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL..

HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS.

WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.
[quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!. HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK. HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES. ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL. CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES. SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES. REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION. There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.[/p][/quote]HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL.. HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH. Ickerydickerydoo
  • Score: -37

7:30am Thu 14 Aug 14

BCFC1911 says...

Ickerydickerydoo wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!.
HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY
EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK.

HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES.

ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL.

CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES.

SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES.

REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION.

There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL..

HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS.

WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.
You don't need to do research to know every ceasefire was broken including yesterday by hamas.

Any support people had for Palestinian government has now been reduced to nothing due to the way they have conducted themselves. Moving bodies, human Shields and child warfare are things they don't think twice about. Israel do not want to kill innocent people they simply want rid of a government that continually fires rocket's at its civilians and their main policy is to wipe Israel from the map.

Any top and bottom of this story is basically no flag whatsoever apart from the UKs flags should be flown over city hall
[quote][p][bold]Ickerydickerydoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!. HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK. HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES. ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL. CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES. SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES. REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION. There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.[/p][/quote]HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL.. HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.[/p][/quote]You don't need to do research to know every ceasefire was broken including yesterday by hamas. Any support people had for Palestinian government has now been reduced to nothing due to the way they have conducted themselves. Moving bodies, human Shields and child warfare are things they don't think twice about. Israel do not want to kill innocent people they simply want rid of a government that continually fires rocket's at its civilians and their main policy is to wipe Israel from the map. Any top and bottom of this story is basically no flag whatsoever apart from the UKs flags should be flown over city hall BCFC1911
  • Score: 52

7:30am Thu 14 Aug 14

wigwambam says...

Ickerydickerydoo wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!.
HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY
EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK.

HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES.

ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL.

CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES.

SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES.

REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION.

There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL..

HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS.

WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.
That not research it's called propaganda. If you want to stop anything stop your brothers murdering Christians and Shia in Iraq you brainwashed numpty
[quote][p][bold]Ickerydickerydoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!. HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK. HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES. ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL. CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES. SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES. REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION. There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.[/p][/quote]HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL.. HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.[/p][/quote]That not research it's called propaganda. If you want to stop anything stop your brothers murdering Christians and Shia in Iraq you brainwashed numpty wigwambam
  • Score: 43

8:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

informer says...

How about flying the Iraq flag in support of all the civilians being killed by Muslims ..............no, thought not
How about flying the Iraq flag in support of all the civilians being killed by Muslims ..............no, thought not informer
  • Score: 28

8:10am Thu 14 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Cllr Greens "we aren't taking sides" has been shown for what it was, a blatent lie.

Funny how Cllr Sunderland now wants to concentrate on Bradford after the council were the ones that started this circus in the first place by flying the Palestine flag.

After Galloways remarks and if Cllr Green has a shred of honesty in him they should fly the Israeli flag to prove Bradford welcomes Israeli people, after all Westfield is owned by Israelis and it will prove the city is not taking sides.

We know however the Palestine flag was simply to gain votes from a section of Bradford and to counter remarks by David Ward and George Galloway.
Cllr Greens "we aren't taking sides" has been shown for what it was, a blatent lie. Funny how Cllr Sunderland now wants to concentrate on Bradford after the council were the ones that started this circus in the first place by flying the Palestine flag. After Galloways remarks and if Cllr Green has a shred of honesty in him they should fly the Israeli flag to prove Bradford welcomes Israeli people, after all Westfield is owned by Israelis and it will prove the city is not taking sides. We know however the Palestine flag was simply to gain votes from a section of Bradford and to counter remarks by David Ward and George Galloway. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 37

8:21am Thu 14 Aug 14

singforyourcity says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Not sure if supporting vile Israeli terrorists is a good thing.
So it's ok for the terrorist party Hamas to fire thousands of rockets (20% of which don't even reach Israel and end of destroying homes of the innocent in gaza) but not for Israel to defend itself? It's wrong that the innocent die but I think your blaming the wrong people.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Not sure if supporting vile Israeli terrorists is a good thing.[/p][/quote]So it's ok for the terrorist party Hamas to fire thousands of rockets (20% of which don't even reach Israel and end of destroying homes of the innocent in gaza) but not for Israel to defend itself? It's wrong that the innocent die but I think your blaming the wrong people. singforyourcity
  • Score: 35

8:25am Thu 14 Aug 14

BCFC1911 says...

What's amusing about this boycott thing is the sheer ignorance of the support. I know a Jewish businessman who practically supplies all the halal kebab meat for all the shops in Bradford. His family also employ about 100 people in Bradford mainly Asian. Unless this stops I can see them having enough and moving towns
What's amusing about this boycott thing is the sheer ignorance of the support. I know a Jewish businessman who practically supplies all the halal kebab meat for all the shops in Bradford. His family also employ about 100 people in Bradford mainly Asian. Unless this stops I can see them having enough and moving towns BCFC1911
  • Score: -6

8:32am Thu 14 Aug 14

john/garage says...

There should only be 2 flags above any Town hall in England the Union jack and the flag of St George simple as.
Suprise suprise the Lib Dems dont want an Israeli flag above the Town hall
They now want to consentrate on local issues well that will be a first,
Very poor political party as there local figure head started it with his stupid comments about Israel wouldn't suprise me if it wasn't his idea to fly the palestine flag the man's a war monger and Bradford dosn't need any more of those.
There should only be 2 flags above any Town hall in England the Union jack and the flag of St George simple as. Suprise suprise the Lib Dems dont want an Israeli flag above the Town hall They now want to consentrate on local issues well that will be a first, Very poor political party as there local figure head started it with his stupid comments about Israel wouldn't suprise me if it wasn't his idea to fly the palestine flag the man's a war monger and Bradford dosn't need any more of those. john/garage
  • Score: 62

8:33am Thu 14 Aug 14

singforyourcity says...

Haji wrote:
I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid.

Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.
You need to stop listening to the bs they teaching you at mosque!

Hamas are the terrorists, Israel are responding as anyone would to a bully, put them down and if they keep attacking put them down again.

The innocent people in gaza suffer because of Hamas, nobody else, wake up and smelly the coffee, stop being blindly lead down the path of supporting fanatical extremists!
[quote][p][bold]Haji[/bold] wrote: I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid. Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.[/p][/quote]You need to stop listening to the bs they teaching you at mosque! Hamas are the terrorists, Israel are responding as anyone would to a bully, put them down and if they keep attacking put them down again. The innocent people in gaza suffer because of Hamas, nobody else, wake up and smelly the coffee, stop being blindly lead down the path of supporting fanatical extremists! singforyourcity
  • Score: 38

8:41am Thu 14 Aug 14

eccythump says...

arshid wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.
Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow
Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?
[quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.[/p][/quote]Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow[/p][/quote]Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ? eccythump
  • Score: 36

8:43am Thu 14 Aug 14

eccythump says...

Ickerydickerydoo wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!.
HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY
EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK.

HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES.

ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL.

CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES.

SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES.

REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION.

There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL..

HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS.

WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.
I have recently seen video of Isis members gleefully beheading children ! Where is your condemnation of this ?
[quote][p][bold]Ickerydickerydoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!. HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK. HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES. ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL. CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES. SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES. REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION. There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.[/p][/quote]HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL.. HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.[/p][/quote]I have recently seen video of Isis members gleefully beheading children ! Where is your condemnation of this ? eccythump
  • Score: 33

8:59am Thu 14 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Hamas lies, they dont know how the truth works, its in their blinded by Jihad nature. False figures regarding civilians, just because you are wearing Civilian clothes it does not mean that you are not a Hamas "Fighter". I use the word "Fighter" in a very loose way as firing rockets while hiding behind children is not very warrior like. Take down all foreign flags. And hopefully Israel take down Hamas leadership then we can deal with ISIS.
Hamas lies, they dont know how the truth works, its in their blinded by Jihad nature. False figures regarding civilians, just because you are wearing Civilian clothes it does not mean that you are not a Hamas "Fighter". I use the word "Fighter" in a very loose way as firing rockets while hiding behind children is not very warrior like. Take down all foreign flags. And hopefully Israel take down Hamas leadership then we can deal with ISIS. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -17

9:09am Thu 14 Aug 14

singforyourcity says...

Ickerydickerydoo wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!.
HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY
EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK.

HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES.

ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL.

CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES.

SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES.

REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION.

There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL..

HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS.

WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.
Oh dear yet another sap blindly supporting a fanatical terrorist racist group.

You should read the reports and watch the videos, one poor little girls body used at three locations!

Hamas are a fanatical group that assassinated their main opposition to gain power.

You seem like a very deluded person
[quote][p][bold]Ickerydickerydoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: Hamas, as there in charge, have instructed all casualties, to be called civilians?. Who's firing the rockets!!!. HAMAS' WAR STRATEGY EPPISODICALLY ATTACK ISRAELI CIVILIANS IN SUCH A WAY HAS TO PROVOKE A COUNTER ATTACK. HIDE BEHIND PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS (PREFERABLY IN CROWDED SCHOOLS, NEIGHBOURHOODS AND HOSPITALS), WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM, FORCING THEM TO STAY GUARANTEEING THAT THE RETURN FIRE WOUNDS OR KILLS CIVILIANS WELL DESTROYING CIVILIAN STRUCTURES. ENCOURAGE THE WESTERN MEDIA TO PLAY UP THE CIVILIAN SUFFERING, PLAY DOWN HAMAS ROLL IN IT, AND ACCUSE ISRAEL. CONJURE A FIRESTORM OF OUTRAGE AROUND THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY PRESSURES ISRAEL IN TO ENDING THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE MEASURES. SURVIVE TO REAP THE PROPAGANDA VICTORY AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF HOSTILITES. REPEAT, WITH EACH EXCHANGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE, AND EACH ROUND OF INTERNATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE HURTING ISRAEL MORE ON THERE INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION. There are a group of people in this world who only wish people to feel sorry for them, while carrying out terrorist activities! Im not one of them.[/p][/quote]HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH RATHER THAN THE CRAP PRINTED BY THE ZIONIST YOU SILLY TROLL.. HAMAS IS AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. IF YOU CALL MURDERING CHILDREN AND WOMEN ON A MASS SPREE BY THE VILE CHILD KILLERS AND DO NOT CONDEMN THIS, THEN YOU ARE AS VILE AND DISGUSTING AS THE ZIONISTS. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN SOLDIERS SHOOT A TEN YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE LEG THEN WALK UP TO HER AND EMPTY 17 BULLETS TWO IN THE HEAD AT CLOSE RANGE.. WHERE.. WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN TEEN BOYS BEING BEATEN UP BY GROWN IDIOTIC VILE ZIONISTS SOLDIERS.. WHERE.. AND YOU CALL THIS A COUNTER ATTACK.. SHUT IT AND DO SOME FECKING REAL RESEARCH.[/p][/quote]Oh dear yet another sap blindly supporting a fanatical terrorist racist group. You should read the reports and watch the videos, one poor little girls body used at three locations! Hamas are a fanatical group that assassinated their main opposition to gain power. You seem like a very deluded person singforyourcity
  • Score: -28

9:28am Thu 14 Aug 14

Bone_idle18 says...

If we're talking terrorists, lets spare a thought for the 30,000 people facing genocide on the mountain of northern Iraq.
If we're talking terrorists, lets spare a thought for the 30,000 people facing genocide on the mountain of northern Iraq. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -7

9:37am Thu 14 Aug 14

A650 says...

Flying the Israeli flag would be a bad decision and just further inflame things after the bad decision to fly the Palestinian flag.

Neither flag should have been flown. It just opens a can of worms.
Flying the Israeli flag would be a bad decision and just further inflame things after the bad decision to fly the Palestinian flag. Neither flag should have been flown. It just opens a can of worms. A650
  • Score: 49

9:42am Thu 14 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

The usual terrorist supporting Hamas lovers gibbering their anti-Semitism. Thinly disguised as anti "Zionism."

Nothing new in Bradford then. Especially now that the freak Gallybags is exploiting the conflict to prop up his political career. Gally is just loving the war. The more Palis who die - the more cred he gets. This is his great chance to get re-elected.

Note: Dobbin of Locksley - aka Johnny the Mu - do try to use another word than "vile." Invest in a Thesaurus.

And as noted: not one word of objection from the Pali luvvas about Iraq,
Boko Haram, etc. How selective your fake sympathies are. What it really means - of course - is that they all approve and support the Islamist
atrocities done in the name if their religion.

All the posts prove just how deeply divided this city is. And getting worse. It's already known in the media as "the Islamic city of Bradford." Soon to be known as the "terrorist supporting city of Bradford."

Welcome to the future folks.

Long live Israel. Fly the flag.

Have you seen the "Israelis welcome here" stickers going up? Great stuff.
The usual terrorist supporting Hamas lovers gibbering their anti-Semitism. Thinly disguised as anti "Zionism." Nothing new in Bradford then. Especially now that the freak Gallybags is exploiting the conflict to prop up his political career. Gally is just loving the war. The more Palis who die - the more cred he gets. This is his great chance to get re-elected. Note: Dobbin of Locksley - aka Johnny the Mu - do try to use another word than "vile." Invest in a Thesaurus. And as noted: not one word of objection from the Pali luvvas about Iraq, Boko Haram, etc. How selective your fake sympathies are. What it really means - of course - is that they all approve and support the Islamist atrocities done in the name if their religion. All the posts prove just how deeply divided this city is. And getting worse. It's already known in the media as "the Islamic city of Bradford." Soon to be known as the "terrorist supporting city of Bradford." Welcome to the future folks. Long live Israel. Fly the flag. Have you seen the "Israelis welcome here" stickers going up? Great stuff. idf fanclub
  • Score: 31

10:17am Thu 14 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Lib Dem group leader Councillor Jeanette Sunderland said she was concerned the matter was becoming "a bit of a circus" and that she wanted the Council to concentrate on delivering local services.

She said: "It appears to be some sort of tit-for-tat exercise."

Maybe you want to have a word with David Ward from your party who has tried to use this for political gain, and tell him to focus on Bradford rather than raising questions on Gaza and Kashmir in order to buy votes in the next election.
Lib Dem group leader Councillor Jeanette Sunderland said she was concerned the matter was becoming "a bit of a circus" and that she wanted the Council to concentrate on delivering local services. She said: "It appears to be some sort of tit-for-tat exercise." Maybe you want to have a word with David Ward from your party who has tried to use this for political gain, and tell him to focus on Bradford rather than raising questions on Gaza and Kashmir in order to buy votes in the next election. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -4

10:19am Thu 14 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

Bradford now has a significant number of people who support Islamic terrorism and all its attendant atrocities and miseries.

They give their support covertly and actively. To Hamas, Boko Haram, ISIS and all the others. And let's not forget Gallybags and Respect.
They hate democracy. They hate Jews. They hate anyone who is not Islamic.

This number is growing. They will define the future and character of Bradford.

Eventually, there will be no place for anyone who does not support their vision. Which of course is the intention. I despair.

Islamophobia? I can can hear the screams even now.
Bradford now has a significant number of people who support Islamic terrorism and all its attendant atrocities and miseries. They give their support covertly and actively. To Hamas, Boko Haram, ISIS and all the others. And let's not forget Gallybags and Respect. They hate democracy. They hate Jews. They hate anyone who is not Islamic. This number is growing. They will define the future and character of Bradford. Eventually, there will be no place for anyone who does not support their vision. Which of course is the intention. I despair. Islamophobia? I can can hear the screams even now. idf fanclub
  • Score: 62

10:32am Thu 14 Aug 14

JCraig89 says...

The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.
The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of. JCraig89
  • Score: 41

11:27am Thu 14 Aug 14

ohgreat3 says...

Flying one nations flag involved in a conflict and not the other one by a council is forcing a preferential opinion onto the citizens of the city when there are two sides in a conflict.....that is undemocratic. I feel sympathy for both sides in the conflict who have both suffered terribly ..the Palestinians presently and the Jews particularly historically. Hammas it should be remembered do not recognise the existence of Israel and want it to disappear so there are two sides to the arguement. Flying any flag is part of the problem because nationalism is just another way in which human beings divide themselves against each other and thereby a factor in the causation of conflict and war.
Flying one nations flag involved in a conflict and not the other one by a council is forcing a preferential opinion onto the citizens of the city when there are two sides in a conflict.....that is undemocratic. I feel sympathy for both sides in the conflict who have both suffered terribly ..the Palestinians presently and the Jews particularly historically. Hammas it should be remembered do not recognise the existence of Israel and want it to disappear so there are two sides to the arguement. Flying any flag is part of the problem because nationalism is just another way in which human beings divide themselves against each other and thereby a factor in the causation of conflict and war. ohgreat3
  • Score: 81

12:54pm Thu 14 Aug 14

hx3bantam says...

idf fanclub wrote:
Bradford now has a significant number of people who support Islamic terrorism and all its attendant atrocities and miseries.

They give their support covertly and actively. To Hamas, Boko Haram, ISIS and all the others. And let's not forget Gallybags and Respect.
They hate democracy. They hate Jews. They hate anyone who is not Islamic.

This number is growing. They will define the future and character of Bradford.

Eventually, there will be no place for anyone who does not support their vision. Which of course is the intention. I despair.

Islamophobia? I can can hear the screams even now.
You don't half spout some shoite fella!
Neither flag should be flown as they just prove divisive.
[quote][p][bold]idf fanclub[/bold] wrote: Bradford now has a significant number of people who support Islamic terrorism and all its attendant atrocities and miseries. They give their support covertly and actively. To Hamas, Boko Haram, ISIS and all the others. And let's not forget Gallybags and Respect. They hate democracy. They hate Jews. They hate anyone who is not Islamic. This number is growing. They will define the future and character of Bradford. Eventually, there will be no place for anyone who does not support their vision. Which of course is the intention. I despair. Islamophobia? I can can hear the screams even now.[/p][/quote]You don't half spout some shoite fella! Neither flag should be flown as they just prove divisive. hx3bantam
  • Score: 78

1:16pm Thu 14 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

hx3...

The usual gibber. Nothing new then.

Keep up the good work. Keep on screaming.
hx3... The usual gibber. Nothing new then. Keep up the good work. Keep on screaming. idf fanclub
  • Score: -13

1:39pm Thu 14 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

hx3banty...

And let me add.

Thanks for putting our minds at rest and correcting me.

I have it all wrong.

There are no Islamist groups in Bradford, or anywhere else, who support terrorism.

Boko Haram, ISIS and Hamas, et al, are all figments of my imagination.

Gallybags loves Israel.

Bradford has a wonderful future as an Islamic state.

Phew, what a relief that there are people like you to show us unenlightened ones the true path.
hx3banty... And let me add. Thanks for putting our minds at rest and correcting me. I have it all wrong. There are no Islamist groups in Bradford, or anywhere else, who support terrorism. Boko Haram, ISIS and Hamas, et al, are all figments of my imagination. Gallybags loves Israel. Bradford has a wonderful future as an Islamic state. Phew, what a relief that there are people like you to show us unenlightened ones the true path. idf fanclub
  • Score: 14

2:20pm Thu 14 Aug 14

mickhoreseman says...

JCraig89 wrote:
The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.
I assume you mean the European Union flag?
[quote][p][bold]JCraig89[/bold] wrote: The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.[/p][/quote]I assume you mean the European Union flag? mickhoreseman
  • Score: -14

2:21pm Thu 14 Aug 14

mickhoreseman says...

JCraig89 wrote:
The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.
I assume you mean the European Union flag?
[quote][p][bold]JCraig89[/bold] wrote: The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.[/p][/quote]I assume you mean the European Union flag? mickhoreseman
  • Score: -15

2:33pm Thu 14 Aug 14

BierleyBoy says...

There were no request to fly the Palestinian flag received by Bradford Council. It was an idea from Amjad Pervez and it was pushed through by Imran Hussain & David Green.

Watch Hussain's rant at the PSC rally in Bradford on 13th July, it's on youtube. Listen to Galloway on the same day.

Even after the crazy comments of David Ward, the flag flew. Flying it allowed Galloway to say Bradford is Israeli free.

The Palestinian flag being flown was nothing to do with the humanitarian reasons put forward after the fact by David Green.

Otherwise the UN UNESCO or a multitude of other peace flags would have been flown.

Palestinian Muslims collaborated with the Nazis in WWII, Grand Mufti al Huseini went to Germany to meet Hitler. Adolf Eichmann who headed the Department of Jewish Affairs for the gestapo went to Palestine to meet Arab leaders before the war.

The whole mess is being desperately covered up by the idiots in city hall who let it happen.

Green trying to suggest requests aren't genuine or justified is his way of avoiding the issue of his corrupt vote grabbing.

I have seen the email request. It's perfectly clear & criticises Bradford Council for not acting impartially & it says that all innocent lives are equal 7 should all be recognised if any such gestures are being made.

How he can say he wasn't taking sides, just shows how much of a liar he is. he chose Muslims over Jews because there are no Jewish votes left in Bradford. Simple.
There were no request to fly the Palestinian flag received by Bradford Council. It was an idea from Amjad Pervez and it was pushed through by Imran Hussain & David Green. Watch Hussain's rant at the PSC rally in Bradford on 13th July, it's on youtube. Listen to Galloway on the same day. Even after the crazy comments of David Ward, the flag flew. Flying it allowed Galloway to say Bradford is Israeli free. The Palestinian flag being flown was nothing to do with the humanitarian reasons put forward after the fact by David Green. Otherwise the UN UNESCO or a multitude of other peace flags would have been flown. Palestinian Muslims collaborated with the Nazis in WWII, Grand Mufti al Huseini went to Germany to meet Hitler. Adolf Eichmann who headed the Department of Jewish Affairs for the gestapo went to Palestine to meet Arab leaders before the war. The whole mess is being desperately covered up by the idiots in city hall who let it happen. Green trying to suggest requests aren't genuine or justified is his way of avoiding the issue of his corrupt vote grabbing. I have seen the email request. It's perfectly clear & criticises Bradford Council for not acting impartially & it says that all innocent lives are equal 7 should all be recognised if any such gestures are being made. How he can say he wasn't taking sides, just shows how much of a liar he is. he chose Muslims over Jews because there are no Jewish votes left in Bradford. Simple. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 21

3:03pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread.

In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this :

"Israel to pay students to defend it online"

http://www.usatoday.
com/story/news/world
/2013/08/14/israel-s
tudents-social-media
/2651715/

----------

Pathetic scum.
Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread. In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this : "Israel to pay students to defend it online" http://www.usatoday. com/story/news/world /2013/08/14/israel-s tudents-social-media /2651715/ ---------- Pathetic scum. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -19

3:09pm Thu 14 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

I can't help wondering whether if Palestine was Christian there wouldn't be such an outcry in Bradford.

Muslims support other Muslims no matter what. You only have to have a minor road accident involving one in Bradford and see how quickly you get surrounded by "witnesses" eager to give their side of the story.

Like others have said - where is the condemnation of the horrendous atrocities being committed in Iraq in the name of Islam? Women and children being buried alive, innocent people being beheaded and even crucified. A deafening silence on that one because we all know followers of "the religion of peace" can do no wrong.
I can't help wondering whether if Palestine was Christian there wouldn't be such an outcry in Bradford. Muslims support other Muslims no matter what. You only have to have a minor road accident involving one in Bradford and see how quickly you get surrounded by "witnesses" eager to give their side of the story. Like others have said - where is the condemnation of the horrendous atrocities being committed in Iraq in the name of Islam? Women and children being buried alive, innocent people being beheaded and even crucified. A deafening silence on that one because we all know followers of "the religion of peace" can do no wrong. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 30

4:02pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Robin of Loxley says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
I can't help wondering whether if Palestine was Christian there wouldn't be such an outcry in Bradford.

Muslims support other Muslims no matter what. You only have to have a minor road accident involving one in Bradford and see how quickly you get surrounded by "witnesses" eager to give their side of the story.

Like others have said - where is the condemnation of the horrendous atrocities being committed in Iraq in the name of Islam? Women and children being buried alive, innocent people being beheaded and even crucified. A deafening silence on that one because we all know followers of "the religion of peace" can do no wrong.
In reference to your ignorance, there are Christians in Occupied Palestine.

And Israel claims to be the only democracy in the Middle East, yet engages in mass arrest of adults and children alike, killings, torture, racism, and ethnic cleansing.

Such a wonderful 'democratic' country that vile, fascist, Zionist state is.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: I can't help wondering whether if Palestine was Christian there wouldn't be such an outcry in Bradford. Muslims support other Muslims no matter what. You only have to have a minor road accident involving one in Bradford and see how quickly you get surrounded by "witnesses" eager to give their side of the story. Like others have said - where is the condemnation of the horrendous atrocities being committed in Iraq in the name of Islam? Women and children being buried alive, innocent people being beheaded and even crucified. A deafening silence on that one because we all know followers of "the religion of peace" can do no wrong.[/p][/quote]In reference to your ignorance, there are Christians in Occupied Palestine. And Israel claims to be the only democracy in the Middle East, yet engages in mass arrest of adults and children alike, killings, torture, racism, and ethnic cleansing. Such a wonderful 'democratic' country that vile, fascist, Zionist state is. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -18

4:11pm Thu 14 Aug 14

BCFC1911 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread.

In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this :

"Israel to pay students to defend it online"

http://www.usatoday.

com/story/news/world

/2013/08/14/israel-s

tudents-social-media

/2651715/

----------

Pathetic scum.
and I wonder if those supporting Hamas have watched this

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq
59Y

Pathetic Scum
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread. In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this : "Israel to pay students to defend it online" http://www.usatoday. com/story/news/world /2013/08/14/israel-s tudents-social-media /2651715/ ---------- Pathetic scum.[/p][/quote]and I wonder if those supporting Hamas have watched this https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq 59Y Pathetic Scum BCFC1911
  • Score: 15

4:13pm Thu 14 Aug 14

BCFC1911 says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread.

In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this :

"Israel to pay students to defend it online"

http://www.usatoday.


com/story/news/world


/2013/08/14/israel-s


tudents-social-media


/2651715/

----------

Pathetic scum.
and I wonder if those supporting Hamas have watched this

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq

59Y

Pathetic Scum
or this

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=57Q8K5Tm
ivM

Or this

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=J08GqXMr
3YE

I could go on forever.
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread. In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this : "Israel to pay students to defend it online" http://www.usatoday. com/story/news/world /2013/08/14/israel-s tudents-social-media /2651715/ ---------- Pathetic scum.[/p][/quote]and I wonder if those supporting Hamas have watched this https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq 59Y Pathetic Scum[/p][/quote]or this https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=57Q8K5Tm ivM Or this https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=J08GqXMr 3YE I could go on forever. BCFC1911
  • Score: 16

6:00pm Thu 14 Aug 14

hx3bantam says...

idf fanclub wrote:
hx3banty...

And let me add.

Thanks for putting our minds at rest and correcting me.

I have it all wrong.

There are no Islamist groups in Bradford, or anywhere else, who support terrorism.

Boko Haram, ISIS and Hamas, et al, are all figments of my imagination.

Gallybags loves Israel.

Bradford has a wonderful future as an Islamic state.

Phew, what a relief that there are people like you to show us unenlightened ones the true path.
Wibble!
[quote][p][bold]idf fanclub[/bold] wrote: hx3banty... And let me add. Thanks for putting our minds at rest and correcting me. I have it all wrong. There are no Islamist groups in Bradford, or anywhere else, who support terrorism. Boko Haram, ISIS and Hamas, et al, are all figments of my imagination. Gallybags loves Israel. Bradford has a wonderful future as an Islamic state. Phew, what a relief that there are people like you to show us unenlightened ones the true path.[/p][/quote]Wibble! hx3bantam
  • Score: -6

7:27pm Thu 14 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote: I can't help wondering whether if Palestine was Christian there wouldn't be such an outcry in Bradford. Muslims support other Muslims no matter what. You only have to have a minor road accident involving one in Bradford and see how quickly you get surrounded by "witnesses" eager to give their side of the story. Like others have said - where is the condemnation of the horrendous atrocities being committed in Iraq in the name of Islam? Women and children being buried alive, innocent people being beheaded and even crucified. A deafening silence on that one because we all know followers of "the religion of peace" can do no wrong.
In reference to your ignorance, there are Christians in Occupied Palestine. And Israel claims to be the only democracy in the Middle East, yet engages in mass arrest of adults and children alike, killings, torture, racism, and ethnic cleansing. Such a wonderful 'democratic' country that vile, fascist, Zionist state is.
Less than one percent Christian - excuse my ignorance! You know I meant if it were PREDOMINANTLY Christian - the straws you clutch at in order to convince yourself that any of your arguments have credence are laughable!

Still no condemnation of the ongoing atrocities in Syria and Iraq?
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: I can't help wondering whether if Palestine was Christian there wouldn't be such an outcry in Bradford. Muslims support other Muslims no matter what. You only have to have a minor road accident involving one in Bradford and see how quickly you get surrounded by "witnesses" eager to give their side of the story. Like others have said - where is the condemnation of the horrendous atrocities being committed in Iraq in the name of Islam? Women and children being buried alive, innocent people being beheaded and even crucified. A deafening silence on that one because we all know followers of "the religion of peace" can do no wrong.[/p][/quote]In reference to your ignorance, there are Christians in Occupied Palestine. And Israel claims to be the only democracy in the Middle East, yet engages in mass arrest of adults and children alike, killings, torture, racism, and ethnic cleansing. Such a wonderful 'democratic' country that vile, fascist, Zionist state is.[/p][/quote]Less than one percent Christian - excuse my ignorance! You know I meant if it were PREDOMINANTLY Christian - the straws you clutch at in order to convince yourself that any of your arguments have credence are laughable! Still no condemnation of the ongoing atrocities in Syria and Iraq? SinnerSaint
  • Score: 22

9:13pm Thu 14 Aug 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread.

In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this :

"Israel to pay students to defend it online"

http://www.usatoday.

com/story/news/world

/2013/08/14/israel-s

tudents-social-media

/2651715/

----------

Pathetic scum.
You're the 'pathetic scum' you hopelessly brainwashed, bigoted, hate-filled bore.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Look at all those supporting Israeli terrorism commenting in this thread. In fact, I wonder if these savages took note of this : "Israel to pay students to defend it online" http://www.usatoday. com/story/news/world /2013/08/14/israel-s tudents-social-media /2651715/ ---------- Pathetic scum.[/p][/quote]You're the 'pathetic scum' you hopelessly brainwashed, bigoted, hate-filled bore. moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: 20

9:43pm Thu 14 Aug 14

arshid says...

eccythump wrote:
arshid wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.
Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow
Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?
Get your facts right three young Israeli boys killed in area controlled by israel no proof of who killed these poor boy's Hamas denied killing them Hamas are stupid enough to admit killing some one when they do how ironic one young boy happend to have American citizenship could it be inside job looking for sympathy then killing one palestanian boy by burning him alive then going to War
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.[/p][/quote]Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow[/p][/quote]Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right three young Israeli boys killed in area controlled by israel no proof of who killed these poor boy's Hamas denied killing them Hamas are stupid enough to admit killing some one when they do how ironic one young boy happend to have American citizenship could it be inside job looking for sympathy then killing one palestanian boy by burning him alive then going to War arshid
  • Score: -13

10:51pm Thu 14 Aug 14

bullofbradford says...

JCraig89 wrote:
The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.
Agreed.
Certainly not the terrorist Israeli flag... according to dozens of United Nations edicts. Ugly Apartheid Zionism.
[quote][p][bold]JCraig89[/bold] wrote: The only flag that should be flown in Bradford, a British city, is the Union Flag. End of.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Certainly not the terrorist Israeli flag... according to dozens of United Nations edicts. Ugly Apartheid Zionism. bullofbradford
  • Score: -18

11:11pm Thu 14 Aug 14

They only do damage! says...

arshid wrote:
eccythump wrote:
arshid wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.
Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow
Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?
Get your facts right three young Israeli boys killed in area controlled by israel no proof of who killed these poor boy's Hamas denied killing them Hamas are stupid enough to admit killing some one when they do how ironic one young boy happend to have American citizenship could it be inside job looking for sympathy then killing one palestanian boy by burning him alive then going to War
Arshid, do you believe that palestinian parents sacrifice there children in order to gain the propaganda which goes with it?, they have declared this all over news channels!!. What in this world we live in, would warrant such a dreadfull thing to happen! Surely we die for our kids. God isn't so great, if he wants you to kill your kids. Your conspiracy theories are straight out the mosque.
[quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.[/p][/quote]Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow[/p][/quote]Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right three young Israeli boys killed in area controlled by israel no proof of who killed these poor boy's Hamas denied killing them Hamas are stupid enough to admit killing some one when they do how ironic one young boy happend to have American citizenship could it be inside job looking for sympathy then killing one palestanian boy by burning him alive then going to War[/p][/quote]Arshid, do you believe that palestinian parents sacrifice there children in order to gain the propaganda which goes with it?, they have declared this all over news channels!!. What in this world we live in, would warrant such a dreadfull thing to happen! Surely we die for our kids. God isn't so great, if he wants you to kill your kids. Your conspiracy theories are straight out the mosque. They only do damage!
  • Score: 16

11:25pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Meanwhile the Islamic State continue their reign of terror and those in uproar about Gaza don't bat an eyelid.
Meanwhile the Islamic State continue their reign of terror and those in uproar about Gaza don't bat an eyelid. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 17

1:20am Fri 15 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

They only do damage! wrote:
arshid wrote:
eccythump wrote:
arshid wrote:
They only do damage! wrote:
George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.
Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow
Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?
Get your facts right three young Israeli boys killed in area controlled by israel no proof of who killed these poor boy's Hamas denied killing them Hamas are stupid enough to admit killing some one when they do how ironic one young boy happend to have American citizenship could it be inside job looking for sympathy then killing one palestanian boy by burning him alive then going to War
Arshid, do you believe that palestinian parents sacrifice there children in order to gain the propaganda which goes with it?, they have declared this all over news channels!!. What in this world we live in, would warrant such a dreadfull thing to happen! Surely we die for our kids. God isn't so great, if he wants you to kill your kids. Your conspiracy theories are straight out the mosque.
A few years ago I wouldn't have believed that parents would kill their own daughter because she fell in love....
[quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: George galloway, all over the national papers calling Bradford an israeli free zone!!. We in Bradford have gone from welcoming all to hating some. Please Bradford council, let the nation know that the people of Bradford care about the innocent people of Israel by raising the flag.[/p][/quote]Innocent people of Israel you got to be kidding 69 military personell killed almost 2000 Palestanian civilians killed you feel sorry for Israel . wow[/p][/quote]Did you forget the three young, innocent, Israeli boys, taken into the woods and slaughtered ? Isn't that what cause this escalation in hostility in the first place ? Who's fault was that then ?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right three young Israeli boys killed in area controlled by israel no proof of who killed these poor boy's Hamas denied killing them Hamas are stupid enough to admit killing some one when they do how ironic one young boy happend to have American citizenship could it be inside job looking for sympathy then killing one palestanian boy by burning him alive then going to War[/p][/quote]Arshid, do you believe that palestinian parents sacrifice there children in order to gain the propaganda which goes with it?, they have declared this all over news channels!!. What in this world we live in, would warrant such a dreadfull thing to happen! Surely we die for our kids. God isn't so great, if he wants you to kill your kids. Your conspiracy theories are straight out the mosque.[/p][/quote]A few years ago I wouldn't have believed that parents would kill their own daughter because she fell in love.... SinnerSaint
  • Score: 32

7:21am Fri 15 Aug 14

saleemy says...

2 countries that hate each other cant coexist its simple realy.either the inhabitants of gaza go or israel.one has to be destroyed or both so which is it?

Once again dual standards are the name if the game.

Some muslims take it upon themselces to make noise and cause inconveience to others over this.yet they dont bother if its muslims killing muslims.

what did they gain?nothing.

was it worth the waste of time?

also is bradford starting to fill up with tadicals and extremists?

What next isis flags?
2 countries that hate each other cant coexist its simple realy.either the inhabitants of gaza go or israel.one has to be destroyed or both so which is it? Once again dual standards are the name if the game. Some muslims take it upon themselces to make noise and cause inconveience to others over this.yet they dont bother if its muslims killing muslims. what did they gain?nothing. was it worth the waste of time? also is bradford starting to fill up with tadicals and extremists? What next isis flags? saleemy
  • Score: 14

10:00am Fri 15 Aug 14

allannicho says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Not sure if supporting vile Israeli terrorists is a good thing.
Change your pen name!
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Not sure if supporting vile Israeli terrorists is a good thing.[/p][/quote]Change your pen name! allannicho
  • Score: 7

10:04am Fri 15 Aug 14

allannicho says...

You get what you vote for! in Bradfords case with its population as it is cannot see anybody dislodging Liebour ever!
You get what you vote for! in Bradfords case with its population as it is cannot see anybody dislodging Liebour ever! allannicho
  • Score: 10

11:34am Fri 15 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

hx3bantyboy...

Wow. What a reply.

Really straining your intellect to the limit.

Enjoy your multicultural Paradise Barfdord.

Send us all a postcard about how wonderful life there is.

And Dobbin of Poxley (aka Johnny the Mu)... still using the same old words to describe all non Islamics. How's the Barfdord Calli Fatty doing?
What's that? Getting nowhere? Not even in your area? Not even your street? Just you and your bedroom. Must try harder Johnny.
hx3bantyboy... Wow. What a reply. Really straining your intellect to the limit. Enjoy your multicultural Paradise Barfdord. Send us all a postcard about how wonderful life there is. And Dobbin of Poxley (aka Johnny the Mu)... still using the same old words to describe all non Islamics. How's the Barfdord Calli Fatty doing? What's that? Getting nowhere? Not even in your area? Not even your street? Just you and your bedroom. Must try harder Johnny. idf fanclub
  • Score: 9

11:45am Fri 15 Aug 14

-LP- says...

Recent events have shown many of us that Muslim hypocrisy is alive and well when it comes to fighting for justice.
Recent events have shown many of us that Muslim hypocrisy is alive and well when it comes to fighting for justice. -LP-
  • Score: 17

12:24pm Fri 15 Aug 14

More of the same.. says...

This is more 3 stage Jihad...
This is more 3 stage Jihad... More of the same..
  • Score: 9

12:42pm Fri 15 Aug 14

hx3bantam says...

idf fanclub wrote:
hx3bantyboy...

Wow. What a reply.

Really straining your intellect to the limit.

Enjoy your multicultural Paradise Barfdord.

Send us all a postcard about how wonderful life there is.

And Dobbin of Poxley (aka Johnny the Mu)... still using the same old words to describe all non Islamics. How's the Barfdord Calli Fatty doing?
What's that? Getting nowhere? Not even in your area? Not even your street? Just you and your bedroom. Must try harder Johnny.
Sorry but I can't understand your insane ramblings. Your sentence structure is like Yoda on acid. Now if you can manage to piece together a coherent sentence I'll give it some consideration. Until then - "Wibble"
[quote][p][bold]idf fanclub[/bold] wrote: hx3bantyboy... Wow. What a reply. Really straining your intellect to the limit. Enjoy your multicultural Paradise Barfdord. Send us all a postcard about how wonderful life there is. And Dobbin of Poxley (aka Johnny the Mu)... still using the same old words to describe all non Islamics. How's the Barfdord Calli Fatty doing? What's that? Getting nowhere? Not even in your area? Not even your street? Just you and your bedroom. Must try harder Johnny.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I can't understand your insane ramblings. Your sentence structure is like Yoda on acid. Now if you can manage to piece together a coherent sentence I'll give it some consideration. Until then - "Wibble" hx3bantam
  • Score: -11

8:13pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Colin Allcars says...

Why were there no protests outside City Hall or Kosovan flags in the back of Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas back in the early 1990's. Weren't the deaths of Albanian Muslims not as trendy or worthy as those in Palestine?
Who brought that genocide to an end/ Pakistan? Iran? Iraq ?Saudi Arabia..or the satanic 'west'?
Why were there no protests outside City Hall or Kosovan flags in the back of Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas back in the early 1990's. Weren't the deaths of Albanian Muslims not as trendy or worthy as those in Palestine? Who brought that genocide to an end/ Pakistan? Iran? Iraq ?Saudi Arabia..or the satanic 'west'? Colin Allcars
  • Score: 13

10:30pm Fri 15 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

hx3 bantyboy...

You can't understand me? Get a grown up or your teacher to help.

I should have realised that English isn't your native language, or you have communication difficulties. Apologies.

I may be insane. More than likely. I probably ramble. Applause.

Actually - my sentence structure is fine (you should read more), effective and to the point. I don't need lessons in grammar from losers.

But I'm not some head up the backside leftie with delusions of a wunnerful Paradise Barfdord. Who believes that all criticism or reporting of Islamist atrocities is neocon or Israeli lying. Who has to resort to cheap kiddy insults instead of giving a reasoned answer. But what's new kiddo?

Keep up the good work.
hx3 bantyboy... You can't understand me? Get a grown up or your teacher to help. I should have realised that English isn't your native language, or you have communication difficulties. Apologies. I may be insane. More than likely. I probably ramble. Applause. Actually - my sentence structure is fine (you should read more), effective and to the point. I don't need lessons in grammar from losers. But I'm not some head up the backside leftie with delusions of a wunnerful Paradise Barfdord. Who believes that all criticism or reporting of Islamist atrocities is neocon or Israeli lying. Who has to resort to cheap kiddy insults instead of giving a reasoned answer. But what's new kiddo? Keep up the good work. idf fanclub
  • Score: 7

10:35am Sat 16 Aug 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

Colin Allcars wrote:
Why were there no protests outside City Hall or Kosovan flags in the back of Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas back in the early 1990's. Weren't the deaths of Albanian Muslims not as trendy or worthy as those in Palestine?
Who brought that genocide to an end/ Pakistan? Iran? Iraq ?Saudi Arabia..or the satanic 'west'?
And it was Britain that help set up Israel. Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in Harmony in that land for hundreds of years. It was then some ignorant Europeans and Britain who felt sorry for their abuse of the Jews and the killing of millions of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. They should have just set up a mini state for them in the UK or somewhere in Europe, but no "steal" somebody else's land and put them there.
And then 60-70 years on from putting them there they have usurped more land and subjugated the indigenous population to prisoners in their own land.
Please look at history, this conflict started many years ago, not just last month
[quote][p][bold]Colin Allcars[/bold] wrote: Why were there no protests outside City Hall or Kosovan flags in the back of Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas back in the early 1990's. Weren't the deaths of Albanian Muslims not as trendy or worthy as those in Palestine? Who brought that genocide to an end/ Pakistan? Iran? Iraq ?Saudi Arabia..or the satanic 'west'?[/p][/quote]And it was Britain that help set up Israel. Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in Harmony in that land for hundreds of years. It was then some ignorant Europeans and Britain who felt sorry for their abuse of the Jews and the killing of millions of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. They should have just set up a mini state for them in the UK or somewhere in Europe, but no "steal" somebody else's land and put them there. And then 60-70 years on from putting them there they have usurped more land and subjugated the indigenous population to prisoners in their own land. Please look at history, this conflict started many years ago, not just last month say_it_as_it_is
  • Score: -1

7:28pm Sat 16 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

says is as it is...

Or rather says it as it is not. Says it as fascist Islam says it.

The usual highly selective interpretation of the situation. As usual no mention of the fanatical anti Jewish hatred throughout the Islamic world, that has existed for centuries and is still ongoing. No mention of Israel's right to defend itself against monsters. And the terrorist non-state that is "Palestine" that sends poison across the planet. Right the way to little ole Barfdord.

And no answer to Allcars' question. Because you can't. Just more anti Israel gibber.

Mobs of Islamic fascists are now openly attacking Jews in Europe. Are mobs of Jews attacking Islamics? Err...
says is as it is... Or rather says it as it is not. Says it as fascist Islam says it. The usual highly selective interpretation of the situation. As usual no mention of the fanatical anti Jewish hatred throughout the Islamic world, that has existed for centuries and is still ongoing. No mention of Israel's right to defend itself against monsters. And the terrorist non-state that is "Palestine" that sends poison across the planet. Right the way to little ole Barfdord. And no answer to Allcars' question. Because you can't. Just more anti Israel gibber. Mobs of Islamic fascists are now openly attacking Jews in Europe. Are mobs of Jews attacking Islamics? Err... idf fanclub
  • Score: 11

7:36pm Sat 16 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

No one wants suffering or loss of life in Gaza - or anywhere else.

Putting this emotive subject aside. Can Dobbin of Poxley and the anti Israelis of all ethnic backgrounds posting in the T&A answer a simple question?

Why is there no reaction from you about the atrocities done by Boko Haram, Islamic State, and all the rest of fascist Islam's followers? Why no mass protests and marches? Why no flags and banners? Why the deathly silence?

I suspect the answer is that you will never, ever condemn actions done by Islamics, no matter how horrific. And you probably approve of them.

Excuses please. In your own time.
No one wants suffering or loss of life in Gaza - or anywhere else. Putting this emotive subject aside. Can Dobbin of Poxley and the anti Israelis of all ethnic backgrounds posting in the T&A answer a simple question? Why is there no reaction from you about the atrocities done by Boko Haram, Islamic State, and all the rest of fascist Islam's followers? Why no mass protests and marches? Why no flags and banners? Why the deathly silence? I suspect the answer is that you will never, ever condemn actions done by Islamics, no matter how horrific. And you probably approve of them. Excuses please. In your own time. idf fanclub
  • Score: 12

10:34am Sun 17 Aug 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

idf fanclub wrote:
says is as it is...

Or rather says it as it is not. Says it as fascist Islam says it.

The usual highly selective interpretation of the situation. As usual no mention of the fanatical anti Jewish hatred throughout the Islamic world, that has existed for centuries and is still ongoing. No mention of Israel's right to defend itself against monsters. And the terrorist non-state that is "Palestine" that sends poison across the planet. Right the way to little ole Barfdord.

And no answer to Allcars' question. Because you can't. Just more anti Israel gibber.

Mobs of Islamic fascists are now openly attacking Jews in Europe. Are mobs of Jews attacking Islamics? Err...
Yes the "IDF" of whom you claim to be a fan has murdered nearly a thousand women and children and is accused of "war crimes" not just by Muslims and anyone who can look at the situation in an unbiased and also the UN.

Stop your ranting and emotional talk, if you can't add anything of substance just save yourself from writing your silly posts.

Where's your condemnation if the atrocities committed by the Zionist state?
[quote][p][bold]idf fanclub[/bold] wrote: says is as it is... Or rather says it as it is not. Says it as fascist Islam says it. The usual highly selective interpretation of the situation. As usual no mention of the fanatical anti Jewish hatred throughout the Islamic world, that has existed for centuries and is still ongoing. No mention of Israel's right to defend itself against monsters. And the terrorist non-state that is "Palestine" that sends poison across the planet. Right the way to little ole Barfdord. And no answer to Allcars' question. Because you can't. Just more anti Israel gibber. Mobs of Islamic fascists are now openly attacking Jews in Europe. Are mobs of Jews attacking Islamics? Err...[/p][/quote]Yes the "IDF" of whom you claim to be a fan has murdered nearly a thousand women and children and is accused of "war crimes" not just by Muslims and anyone who can look at the situation in an unbiased and also the UN. Stop your ranting and emotional talk, if you can't add anything of substance just save yourself from writing your silly posts. Where's your condemnation if the atrocities committed by the Zionist state? say_it_as_it_is
  • Score: -11

1:06am Mon 18 Aug 14

Wyke 1981 says...

No flag other than the Union Jack or St George cross should of ever been flown outside city hall in the first place!!

But Now that the Palestine flag as been flown and that idiot Galloway as opened his mouth and embarrassed our city (again) then I think In the interests of equality and fairness that the Israel flag should be flown for one day to show the world bradford Is neutral in this and is not supporting the Hamas terrorists.

In future then NO flag that doesn't have nothing to do with this city or country should be flown again
No flag other than the Union Jack or St George cross should of ever been flown outside city hall in the first place!! But Now that the Palestine flag as been flown and that idiot Galloway as opened his mouth and embarrassed our city (again) then I think In the interests of equality and fairness that the Israel flag should be flown for one day to show the world bradford Is neutral in this and is not supporting the Hamas terrorists. In future then NO flag that doesn't have nothing to do with this city or country should be flown again Wyke 1981
  • Score: 8

9:06am Mon 18 Aug 14

BierleyBoy says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote:
Why were there no protests outside City Hall or Kosovan flags in the back of Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas back in the early 1990's. Weren't the deaths of Albanian Muslims not as trendy or worthy as those in Palestine?
Who brought that genocide to an end/ Pakistan? Iran? Iraq ?Saudi Arabia..or the satanic 'west'?
And it was Britain that help set up Israel. Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in Harmony in that land for hundreds of years. It was then some ignorant Europeans and Britain who felt sorry for their abuse of the Jews and the killing of millions of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. They should have just set up a mini state for them in the UK or somewhere in Europe, but no "steal" somebody else's land and put them there.
And then 60-70 years on from putting them there they have usurped more land and subjugated the indigenous population to prisoners in their own land.
Please look at history, this conflict started many years ago, not just last month
Palestine was the part of the ottoman Empire the UK ended up with after the league of nations divided it up.

You do know of the slaughter of over 1m Armenian Christians by the Sunni Islam Young Turks, don't you?

The land that Britain named Palestine was 90% Sunni Islam Arabs.

An increase in the Jewish population well before Hitler came along was not popular with the majority Muslim group, so fighting began.

Today such action would be called fascism/racism/bigot
ry. Curiously this is ignored. in the context of this whole mess.

David Green himself launched a tirade against the EDL when they came to Bradford, however he did not apply this logic when taking sides & flying the Palestinian flag.

It's also the case that Sunni Muslims & their supporters think this is their land. They do not want Jews or anyone else there. They do not believe Israel should exist.

No one wants on the Palestinian side seems to acknowledge this land was colonised at various times in history by different groups. Some would say Jews were there before Arabs.

The history is of course being brushed over for the here & now, as it's politically/religiou
sly expedient for some to do in vote grabbing, self promotion or to drive the Ummah forward in it's power seeking.

David Green should be forced out of his job. he has brought incredible shame & disgrace on to Bradford, and he lied & deceived his way into getting the flag flown to win the Sunni Muslim voters over against Galloway.

There is an election next year & Labour will do anything to win Bradford west back.

Ed Miliband said Labour needed to learn lessons about why they lost the seat. It seems they have simply resorted to the same old tactics.

Pe
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Colin Allcars[/bold] wrote: Why were there no protests outside City Hall or Kosovan flags in the back of Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas back in the early 1990's. Weren't the deaths of Albanian Muslims not as trendy or worthy as those in Palestine? Who brought that genocide to an end/ Pakistan? Iran? Iraq ?Saudi Arabia..or the satanic 'west'?[/p][/quote]And it was Britain that help set up Israel. Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in Harmony in that land for hundreds of years. It was then some ignorant Europeans and Britain who felt sorry for their abuse of the Jews and the killing of millions of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. They should have just set up a mini state for them in the UK or somewhere in Europe, but no "steal" somebody else's land and put them there. And then 60-70 years on from putting them there they have usurped more land and subjugated the indigenous population to prisoners in their own land. Please look at history, this conflict started many years ago, not just last month[/p][/quote]Palestine was the part of the ottoman Empire the UK ended up with after the league of nations divided it up. You do know of the slaughter of over 1m Armenian Christians by the Sunni Islam Young Turks, don't you? The land that Britain named Palestine was 90% Sunni Islam Arabs. An increase in the Jewish population well before Hitler came along was not popular with the majority Muslim group, so fighting began. Today such action would be called fascism/racism/bigot ry. Curiously this is ignored. in the context of this whole mess. David Green himself launched a tirade against the EDL when they came to Bradford, however he did not apply this logic when taking sides & flying the Palestinian flag. It's also the case that Sunni Muslims & their supporters think this is their land. They do not want Jews or anyone else there. They do not believe Israel should exist. No one wants on the Palestinian side seems to acknowledge this land was colonised at various times in history by different groups. Some would say Jews were there before Arabs. The history is of course being brushed over for the here & now, as it's politically/religiou sly expedient for some to do in vote grabbing, self promotion or to drive the Ummah forward in it's power seeking. David Green should be forced out of his job. he has brought incredible shame & disgrace on to Bradford, and he lied & deceived his way into getting the flag flown to win the Sunni Muslim voters over against Galloway. There is an election next year & Labour will do anything to win Bradford west back. Ed Miliband said Labour needed to learn lessons about why they lost the seat. It seems they have simply resorted to the same old tactics. Pe BierleyBoy
  • Score: 9

9:21am Mon 18 Aug 14

idf fanclub says...

Sayit is not...

As usual - no answer.

Just more anti Jewish/Israeli Hamas propaganda.

We get the picture. You've chosen sides. And it's the side of Islamist terrorist organisations.

Anything the Israelis have done - call it self defence or not - is not one ten thousandth the daily atrocities done by Islamists. Bet you believe it's all CIA/Jewish lies doncha? 9/11; the tube bombs; Boko Haram; Islamic State; Lee Rigby killing - and on and on. All lies to discredit the faithful. You must be a happy man.
Sayit is not... As usual - no answer. Just more anti Jewish/Israeli Hamas propaganda. We get the picture. You've chosen sides. And it's the side of Islamist terrorist organisations. Anything the Israelis have done - call it self defence or not - is not one ten thousandth the daily atrocities done by Islamists. Bet you believe it's all CIA/Jewish lies doncha? 9/11; the tube bombs; Boko Haram; Islamic State; Lee Rigby killing - and on and on. All lies to discredit the faithful. You must be a happy man. idf fanclub
  • Score: 6

9:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Haji says...

singforyourcity wrote:
Haji wrote:
I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid.

Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.
You need to stop listening to the bs they teaching you at mosque!

Hamas are the terrorists, Israel are responding as anyone would to a bully, put them down and if they keep attacking put them down again.

The innocent people in gaza suffer because of Hamas, nobody else, wake up and smelly the coffee, stop being blindly lead down the path of supporting fanatical extremists!
You need to stop being the BS you are.
Who told you I go to the mosque?
why did you even assume I am Muslim?
I hate thick idiots like you so go and learn something before you type rubbish here.
[quote][p][bold]singforyourcity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haji[/bold] wrote: I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid. Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.[/p][/quote]You need to stop listening to the bs they teaching you at mosque! Hamas are the terrorists, Israel are responding as anyone would to a bully, put them down and if they keep attacking put them down again. The innocent people in gaza suffer because of Hamas, nobody else, wake up and smelly the coffee, stop being blindly lead down the path of supporting fanatical extremists![/p][/quote]You need to stop being the BS you are. Who told you I go to the mosque? why did you even assume I am Muslim? I hate thick idiots like you so go and learn something before you type rubbish here. Haji
  • Score: -5

10:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Haji says...

singforyourcity wrote:
Haji wrote:
I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid.

Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.
You need to stop listening to the bs they teaching you at mosque!

Hamas are the terrorists, Israel are responding as anyone would to a bully, put them down and if they keep attacking put them down again.

The innocent people in gaza suffer because of Hamas, nobody else, wake up and smelly the coffee, stop being blindly lead down the path of supporting fanatical extremists!
I won't bother quoting others as that will unnecessarily fill this blog but I see many comments suggesting why are people not getting worked up about other current and previous conflicts. Then there are many comments suggesting people who are pro Palestine are de facto anti-Jewish (more accurately anti-Semites)

Both of the above are mistaken and inaccurate. First, every living person is sacred and so we ought to feel the pain when injustice is carried out and we should make a stand against this whether it is Christians, atheists or any other religion who is the victim. I can say I was just as angry when Rwandan Massacre happened as I was when This massacre took place. The recent Iraqi problem is of course bad and anybody who says otherwise is in need of some soul searching. The difference is our Leaders have condemned that and found ways to try and stop that and do some humanitarian work. With the Zionist Terrorist state called Israel carrying out a massacre of indigenous Palestinian Arabs by indiscriminately killing innocent people , our government seem to have 'a morally indefensible' attitude and more worryingly support it by providing arms.

I can't understand how you can steal someone's land , take their resources, kill their children and women and deny them opportunities for work, travel and education, stop them from having freedoms we take for granted like medical care and then hope they will not react. I have not reached my conclusions by attending a protest or hearing one lecture or reading one book. I have thoroughly looked at this issue for years and reached the same conclusion that was reached by David Ward, which is if my people were so badly oppressed and I was made to live in an open air prison then I would certainly fire rockets. The difference would be anywhere else in the world that situation would call the resisters freedom fighters whereas here they are called terrorists. Obversely, the invaders would be the villains but in this case (Israel) is seen as having rights to defend itself, even if that means killing women and children in UN marked camps or on the beach playing.

The second point about Anti-Jewish sentiment; well this is complete and utter nonsense. I speak to people of the Jewish faith all the time and I have personally known many Jews who protests against what is going on in Gaza. I happened to meet a very orthodox group recently in London who displayed signs that Zionism in Israel and Judaism are opposites and so wanted to make a point about people not getting the two mixed up.

I have boycotted all Israeli Zionist products but would never boycott Jewish products as the two are not the same thing. This misconception only exists amongst the ignorant; sadly there happen to be many on this forum who meet this description - IDF fanclub is a case in point amongst others.
[quote][p][bold]singforyourcity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haji[/bold] wrote: I find it odd that this even needs to be considered. Israel is a terrorist state that has massacred the Palestinians and so we made a stand by raising the Palestinian flag. We are not obliged to stand with the Terrorists and the conservatives can say what they want about this as I remember they (particularly Thatcher) called Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and condemned him for his stand against apartheid. Please look into the attrocities committed by Israel and you will be reduced to tears. Raising the flag of Israel for me would be equal to raising the flag of North Korea, the logo of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi swastika. If any of these are raised or given reverence then I will stop paying my council tax as a personal statement of disapproval.[/p][/quote]You need to stop listening to the bs they teaching you at mosque! Hamas are the terrorists, Israel are responding as anyone would to a bully, put them down and if they keep attacking put them down again. The innocent people in gaza suffer because of Hamas, nobody else, wake up and smelly the coffee, stop being blindly lead down the path of supporting fanatical extremists![/p][/quote]I won't bother quoting others as that will unnecessarily fill this blog but I see many comments suggesting why are people not getting worked up about other current and previous conflicts. Then there are many comments suggesting people who are pro Palestine are de facto anti-Jewish (more accurately anti-Semites) Both of the above are mistaken and inaccurate. First, every living person is sacred and so we ought to feel the pain when injustice is carried out and we should make a stand against this whether it is Christians, atheists or any other religion who is the victim. I can say I was just as angry when Rwandan Massacre happened as I was when This massacre took place. The recent Iraqi problem is of course bad and anybody who says otherwise is in need of some soul searching. The difference is our Leaders have condemned that and found ways to try and stop that and do some humanitarian work. With the Zionist Terrorist state called Israel carrying out a massacre of indigenous Palestinian Arabs by indiscriminately killing innocent people , our government seem to have 'a morally indefensible' attitude and more worryingly support it by providing arms. I can't understand how you can steal someone's land , take their resources, kill their children and women and deny them opportunities for work, travel and education, stop them from having freedoms we take for granted like medical care and then hope they will not react. I have not reached my conclusions by attending a protest or hearing one lecture or reading one book. I have thoroughly looked at this issue for years and reached the same conclusion that was reached by David Ward, which is if my people were so badly oppressed and I was made to live in an open air prison then I would certainly fire rockets. The difference would be anywhere else in the world that situation would call the resisters freedom fighters whereas here they are called terrorists. Obversely, the invaders would be the villains but in this case (Israel) is seen as having rights to defend itself, even if that means killing women and children in UN marked camps or on the beach playing. The second point about Anti-Jewish sentiment; well this is complete and utter nonsense. I speak to people of the Jewish faith all the time and I have personally known many Jews who protests against what is going on in Gaza. I happened to meet a very orthodox group recently in London who displayed signs that Zionism in Israel and Judaism are opposites and so wanted to make a point about people not getting the two mixed up. I have boycotted all Israeli Zionist products but would never boycott Jewish products as the two are not the same thing. This misconception only exists amongst the ignorant; sadly there happen to be many on this forum who meet this description - IDF fanclub is a case in point amongst others. Haji
  • Score: -7

8:50am Tue 19 Aug 14

Oldwestbowling says...

The misconception also occurs in abundance on the Bradford Boycott facebook site.
The misconception also occurs in abundance on the Bradford Boycott facebook site. Oldwestbowling
  • Score: 3

8:57am Tue 19 Aug 14

dannbradfc says...

It takes two........hamas are equally as culpable and have a responsibility to their own citizens not to break cease-fires and encourage a response....

The council have set a poor precedent here.....

PS where are the gaza demonstrators denouncing the genocide of christians by so called muslims in Iraq????????? does injustice only apply when its perceived muslim injustice.......beca
use if the cause of Gaza is purely a humanitarian cause then where is the demos for the christians in Iraq and against the persecution of christians in pakistan????/ etc etc

this is why religion should have no place in law and schools and should be a private practice......its hypocrisy......

i will support any cause that promotes humanity but refuse to take sides in religious hatred.....
It takes two........hamas are equally as culpable and have a responsibility to their own citizens not to break cease-fires and encourage a response.... The council have set a poor precedent here..... PS where are the gaza demonstrators denouncing the genocide of christians by so called muslims in Iraq????????? does injustice only apply when its perceived muslim injustice.......beca use if the cause of Gaza is purely a humanitarian cause then where is the demos for the christians in Iraq and against the persecution of christians in pakistan????/ etc etc this is why religion should have no place in law and schools and should be a private practice......its hypocrisy...... i will support any cause that promotes humanity but refuse to take sides in religious hatred..... dannbradfc
  • Score: 6

11:58am Tue 19 Aug 14

the_watcher86 says...

Agree with the last comment that religion should be removed from schools etc and should be a private practice. It is doing nothing other than teaching children utter rubbish, the world should move on with the times and realise that religion is nothing but a 'gullable' group of people who 'want' to believe. In actual fact science nower days in de-railing most religions and hopefully one day we will realise we were all put here the same way - there is no almighty 'god' to impress or sacrafice innocent humans to follow the rubbish, immoral practices.

All religions seem to go on and on about peace, morals and not living in sin, although they sin day in day out smoking, gambling, swearing etc etc etc - most religious people nower days dont even follow the religion correctly anyway so pointless if you ask me. Do away with fake religions and move to a society that accepts the world emmerged from nothing but simple scient and not the great 'Allah'!!!
Agree with the last comment that religion should be removed from schools etc and should be a private practice. It is doing nothing other than teaching children utter rubbish, the world should move on with the times and realise that religion is nothing but a 'gullable' group of people who 'want' to believe. In actual fact science nower days in de-railing most religions and hopefully one day we will realise we were all put here the same way - there is no almighty 'god' to impress or sacrafice innocent humans to follow the rubbish, immoral practices. All religions seem to go on and on about peace, morals and not living in sin, although they sin day in day out smoking, gambling, swearing etc etc etc - most religious people nower days dont even follow the religion correctly anyway so pointless if you ask me. Do away with fake religions and move to a society that accepts the world emmerged from nothing but simple scient and not the great 'Allah'!!! the_watcher86
  • Score: 4

12:04pm Tue 19 Aug 14

the_watcher86 says...

also and terroist supporters in Bradford or not should be removed from the UK - freedom of speach is important but the things ISIS etc stand for is beyond humain.
When will the British government tackle these potential terroists?
When will schools realise that brainwashing children with religion is both a waste of time, money and education. I have no problem with those who choose religion but i do not believe that children of today need teaching proper science and education.
religion only causes grouping of society and causes conflict as seen in these foreign countries many many times.
also and terroist supporters in Bradford or not should be removed from the UK - freedom of speach is important but the things ISIS etc stand for is beyond humain. When will the British government tackle these potential terroists? When will schools realise that brainwashing children with religion is both a waste of time, money and education. I have no problem with those who choose religion but i do not believe that children of today need teaching proper science and education. religion only causes grouping of society and causes conflict as seen in these foreign countries many many times. the_watcher86
  • Score: 4

12:20pm Wed 20 Aug 14

pjl20 says...

I see no reason why a political party represented on Bradford MDC should have to take anything other than a completely neutral position over the dispute and conflict between Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza.

Why must any flag be flown over City Hall, except the Union Jack flag?

Elected councillors should consider their responsibilities to the whole of the community and not just to sections of it.
I see no reason why a political party represented on Bradford MDC should have to take anything other than a completely neutral position over the dispute and conflict between Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza. Why must any flag be flown over City Hall, except the Union Jack flag? Elected councillors should consider their responsibilities to the whole of the community and not just to sections of it. pjl20
  • Score: 5

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