VIDEO: Call for action as Bradford's flytipping hotspots are revealed

PROBLEM: Cllr Mike Ellis with an example of fly tipping in Birksland Street, Bradford, earlier this year

PROBLEM: Cllr Mike Ellis with an example of fly tipping in Birksland Street, Bradford, earlier this year

CONCERN: Suspected asbestos has been flytipped in Manningham, Bradford, to the alarm of residents and ward Cllr Ishtiaq Ahmed (front)

CONCERN: Suspected asbestos has been flytipped in Manningham, Bradford, to the alarm of residents and ward Cllr Ishtiaq Ahmed (front right)

CONCERN: Suspected asbestos has been flytipped in Manningham, Bradford, to the alarm of residents and ward Cllr Ishtiaq Ahmed (front right)

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FLYTIPPING is blighting neighbourhoods and in some cases endangering lives, angry councillors have claimed.

They are calling on Bradford Council to get a grip on the problem, after the district's flytipping hotspots were revealed.

And the authority is also facing renewed calls to reconsider its controversial tip permit scheme.

The new figures reveal the number of fixed-penalty fines and prosecutions for flytipping and littering offences in each of the Council's 30 wards.

Bradford's City ward has by far and away the biggest problem, with 34 fines doled out and four prosecutions in 2013/14.

Bowling and Barkerend, Bradford Moor and Royds were also flagged up as problem areas, with three prosecutions apiece.

In comparison, neither the Wharfedale nor the Craven ward saw any offenders fined or prosecuted.

In total, 21 people were prosecuted for flytipping offences in 2013/14 across the district.

The figures were released by Bradford Council in response to a question posed by Councillor Ishtiaq Ahmed (Bradford Independent Group, Manningham).

He said he had been getting far more complaints about flytipping in his ward than he had received in previous years, and had wondered if there was a pattern.

He said: "I'm concerned that the illegal dumping of rubbish is blighting areas, some of which are areas of natural beauty."

Bradford Council started demanding to see residents' permits at tips in July last year and began charging for bulky waste collections in September.

Cllr Ahmed said he was particularly worried that these new changes, as well as the rising costs of hiring skips, were driving people into illegally dumping their waste.

He called for the Council to re-think its policies, and added: "It is the prosecution figures that really concern me. There is very little prosecution, which shows that perhaps it is difficult to monitor or police the flytippers."

Cllr Ahmed said in his ward, a load of asbestos had been dumped around three months ago on a street where children play.

The asbestos, in St Paul's Road, was getting progressively more damaged, releasing potentially harmful materials, Cllr Ahmed said.

He said: "Cars are driving over some of the asbestos, which creates dust. There are kids playing on that street, and it is a major health and safety issue."

Cllr Ahmed said he had reported it to the Council around four weeks ago, but it had not been moved.

Councillor Mike Ellis, who has a background in waste management, also raised his concerns about flytipping earlier this year.

In response to the latest figures, Cllr Ellis (Con, Bingley Rural) said he was growing increasingly worried about "tipping on a commercial scale".

He said: "I am still extremely concerned. I don't think they are getting on top of it."

He said two or three days ago he had noticed rubbish dumped at one spot in Shipley which looked like "something that has come off a tipper wagon".

He added: "This is commercial tipping on a commercial scale and it is blighting our communities."

Cllr Ellis called for a crackdown by the Labour-run Council, perhaps with the help of the police or the Environment Agency, to stop and quiz the drivers of any vehicles going around piled with rubbish.

Councillor Andrew Thornton, executive member for the environment, said the amount of rubbish being flytipped across the district was falling, and said this showed the permit issue was a "red herring".

But he said the number of instances where people were dumping very large amounts of rubbish was on the up, suggesting the problem was down to "rogue businesses rather than residents".

He urged anyone who saw this happening to take a note of registration numbers or other details which could help the Council bring offenders to justice.

He said: The key thing is, if people see flytipping happening, if they are able to get any of the details of the vehicles that are doing it and they are prepared to make a statement and report it to the Council, then we have something we can pursue through the courts."

Meanwhile, in the district of Craven, flytippers who dumped old mattresses and other rubbish in a lay-by alongside a busy main road have come under fire.

The rubbish was were left in the lay-by near Kildwick roundabout, on the A629 Aire Valley trunk road.

The site is within the boundaries of Craven Council, which says that where evidence exists, flytippers will be prosecuted.

A spokesman said: "Flytipping is illegal and an eyesore and although it is not a huge problem in Craven – we had the fifth lowest incidence across the country in 2012/13 – we take it very seriously and investigate all cases reported to us."

Bradford councillor Andrew Mallinson's Craven ward borders the scene of the incident, but he said boundaries were unimportant when it came tackling the litter menace.

"It's everybody's countryside and it is getting blighted," the Conservative councillor said.

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6:36am Wed 6 Aug 14

micela22 says...

same news as the other day. Yes fly tipping is a problem, seems from the rubbish pictured above that it could be local people not being bothered to removed their unwanted items correctly, if you aren`t from the area I can`t see too many people actually driving to dump their stuff there it`s much easier to phone the council bulk refuse, unless they don`t know how to, can`t get through or can`t be bothered
same news as the other day. Yes fly tipping is a problem, seems from the rubbish pictured above that it could be local people not being bothered to removed their unwanted items correctly, if you aren`t from the area I can`t see too many people actually driving to dump their stuff there it`s much easier to phone the council bulk refuse, unless they don`t know how to, can`t get through or can`t be bothered micela22
  • Score: 19

6:40am Wed 6 Aug 14

Shipleyvegas says...

Direct correlation between the permit scheme and this increase. The council introduced the scheme to save £150k but have they spent that on clearing the extra fly tipping? Probably....

Scrap the permit scheme.
Make bulky item collection free.
Direct correlation between the permit scheme and this increase. The council introduced the scheme to save £150k but have they spent that on clearing the extra fly tipping? Probably.... Scrap the permit scheme. Make bulky item collection free. Shipleyvegas
  • Score: 59

7:05am Wed 6 Aug 14

Albion. says...

The council need to remember that they are public servants and the public pay for waste disposal. All tips should be open every day and accept any rubbish from anyone, no questions asked. The penalties for illegal tipping are obviously not severe enough, are the magistrates imposing the maximum penalty anyway?
The council need to remember that they are public servants and the public pay for waste disposal. All tips should be open every day and accept any rubbish from anyone, no questions asked. The penalties for illegal tipping are obviously not severe enough, are the magistrates imposing the maximum penalty anyway? Albion.
  • Score: 61

7:21am Wed 6 Aug 14

bd7 helper says...

It's about time the councillors are doing there job properly.
It's about time the councillors are doing there job properly. bd7 helper
  • Score: 14

7:43am Wed 6 Aug 14

mr.bradford says...

Here's one for the clean up team. High Bank Lane just up from Northcliffe Golf Club. Near opposite where all the dope smokers park up there is a mobile phone mast / sub-station with a load of crap dumped just off road and it's been there for months.
Here's one for the clean up team. High Bank Lane just up from Northcliffe Golf Club. Near opposite where all the dope smokers park up there is a mobile phone mast / sub-station with a load of crap dumped just off road and it's been there for months. mr.bradford
  • Score: 31

7:53am Wed 6 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

That picture just looks like any front garden along Manningham Lane, except without the fancy, uninsured, untaxed car parked outside. Fly-tipping, know just a community way of life.
That picture just looks like any front garden along Manningham Lane, except without the fancy, uninsured, untaxed car parked outside. Fly-tipping, know just a community way of life. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 47

8:20am Wed 6 Aug 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Cllr Thornton like any Labour council is just in denial and refused to acknowledge that he is wrong so will stubbornly persist with their badly thought out idea.
Cllr Thornton like any Labour council is just in denial and refused to acknowledge that he is wrong so will stubbornly persist with their badly thought out idea. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 21

9:14am Wed 6 Aug 14

cheeky1 says...

Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use!
But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away!
Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van!
Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use! But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away! Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van! cheeky1
  • Score: 26

9:19am Wed 6 Aug 14

llos25 says...

The council divert resources to grandeur schemes and the basics they forget about .I am glad I moved from the cesspit called Bradford.
The council divert resources to grandeur schemes and the basics they forget about .I am glad I moved from the cesspit called Bradford. llos25
  • Score: 11

10:00am Wed 6 Aug 14

cibasteve says...

Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip.
It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip.
Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish.
Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.
Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip. It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip. Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish. Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish. cibasteve
  • Score: 22

10:34am Wed 6 Aug 14

aletheia-emet says...

cheeky1 wrote:
Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use!
But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away!
Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van!
They've moved from Wibsey Park to Carrbottom Road football ground...

It's going to be a fun weekend cleaning up after them for Sunday Football
[quote][p][bold]cheeky1[/bold] wrote: Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use! But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away! Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van![/p][/quote]They've moved from Wibsey Park to Carrbottom Road football ground... It's going to be a fun weekend cleaning up after them for Sunday Football aletheia-emet
  • Score: 18

10:50am Wed 6 Aug 14

aletheia-emet says...

Household wastes sites are open 7 days a week. It's sheer laziness and disregard for the environment that is the issue. If we stop building upon green areas, knock down all the old mills (and the Odeon) and invest in the look and feel of Bradford then people will appreciate the environment as they'll want to keep it clean.

With Chief Execs getting £200k in the year and 2000 Councillors in Britain on £100k+ - I'm not surprised we cant invest
Household wastes sites are open 7 days a week. It's sheer laziness and disregard for the environment that is the issue. If we stop building upon green areas, knock down all the old mills (and the Odeon) and invest in the look and feel of Bradford then people will appreciate the environment as they'll want to keep it clean. With Chief Execs getting £200k in the year and 2000 Councillors in Britain on £100k+ - I'm not surprised we cant invest aletheia-emet
  • Score: 2

11:06am Wed 6 Aug 14

johnnnyboyrev says...

The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head.

The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take.

Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them.

The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take.

The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping.

Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days.

Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.
The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head. The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take. Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them. The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take. The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping. Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days. Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job. johnnnyboyrev
  • Score: 33

11:24am Wed 6 Aug 14

cheeky1 says...

The clean up weekends were the best ideas Bradford Council ever had!
People put there rubbish, or stuff they were getting rid of out on a certain weekend. Okay so an awful lot of it was no good, but some of it was!
Scrappers picked up the scrap, some of the rubbish could be reused.
Thus creating the 'One mans junk is another mans treasure!'
I know a lot of the old cycles out of people's sheds were given a second chance with this!
The clean up weekends were the best ideas Bradford Council ever had! People put there rubbish, or stuff they were getting rid of out on a certain weekend. Okay so an awful lot of it was no good, but some of it was! Scrappers picked up the scrap, some of the rubbish could be reused. Thus creating the 'One mans junk is another mans treasure!' I know a lot of the old cycles out of people's sheds were given a second chance with this! cheeky1
  • Score: 17

11:56am Wed 6 Aug 14

jh137 says...

This looks like empty house syndrome to me. There are plenty of council trucks (and scrap guys, who despite poor reputation, do a good cleaning up job) driving round collecting dumped stuff. Surely if there were official places/collection points, not council tips, but more local, maybe in a corner of supermarket car parks? if they were free for everyone to use, it could just be collected from there, reducing illegal dumping? Ive just put up with 2 days of workmen burning foam filled furniture (surely illegal?) in the garden of the empty house next door and brought on the back of a sign written truck from one of their other empty properties. if there was a free to use service maybe they could have just taken it there (i believe businesses currently have to pay to use council tips)...just an idea.
BTW not everyone has transport to go to the council tip.
As to Royds having a bad problem, they used to do a 'big clean up' each summer and people would put stuff out to be collected free of charge but they stopped doing that a few years ago...hmmm a connection?
This looks like empty house syndrome to me. There are plenty of council trucks (and scrap guys, who despite poor reputation, do a good cleaning up job) driving round collecting dumped stuff. Surely if there were official places/collection points, not council tips, but more local, maybe in a corner of supermarket car parks? if they were free for everyone to use, it could just be collected from there, reducing illegal dumping? Ive just put up with 2 days of workmen burning foam filled furniture (surely illegal?) in the garden of the empty house next door and brought on the back of a sign written truck from one of their other empty properties. if there was a free to use service maybe they could have just taken it there (i believe businesses currently have to pay to use council tips)...just an idea. BTW not everyone has transport to go to the council tip. As to Royds having a bad problem, they used to do a 'big clean up' each summer and people would put stuff out to be collected free of charge but they stopped doing that a few years ago...hmmm a connection? jh137
  • Score: 14

11:56am Wed 6 Aug 14

allannicho says...

It will never change, that's what they do!
It will never change, that's what they do! allannicho
  • Score: 11

12:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

cockadoodledo says...

The problem has been brought on by the council themselves with the permit scheme. Scrap the permits completely and have a free pickup for bulky items. Fly tipping problem solved!!!!
The problem has been brought on by the council themselves with the permit scheme. Scrap the permits completely and have a free pickup for bulky items. Fly tipping problem solved!!!! cockadoodledo
  • Score: 9

12:20pm Wed 6 Aug 14

hortonite says...

Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.
Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit. hortonite
  • Score: 36

12:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Baildon girl says...

Its ok blaming the tip restrictions which im sure is a factor, but you are always going to get lazy disrespectful people who will just dump things where they see fit. And its not just in the areas mentioned it happens all over
Its ok blaming the tip restrictions which im sure is a factor, but you are always going to get lazy disrespectful people who will just dump things where they see fit. And its not just in the areas mentioned it happens all over Baildon girl
  • Score: 17

12:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

cheeky1 says...

jh137 wrote:
This looks like empty house syndrome to me. There are plenty of council trucks (and scrap guys, who despite poor reputation, do a good cleaning up job) driving round collecting dumped stuff. Surely if there were official places/collection points, not council tips, but more local, maybe in a corner of supermarket car parks? if they were free for everyone to use, it could just be collected from there, reducing illegal dumping? Ive just put up with 2 days of workmen burning foam filled furniture (surely illegal?) in the garden of the empty house next door and brought on the back of a sign written truck from one of their other empty properties. if there was a free to use service maybe they could have just taken it there (i believe businesses currently have to pay to use council tips)...just an idea.
BTW not everyone has transport to go to the council tip.
As to Royds having a bad problem, they used to do a 'big clean up' each summer and people would put stuff out to be collected free of charge but they stopped doing that a few years ago...hmmm a connection?
I just posted about this! After the clean up week ends the estates were clear for sometime. Everyone could use this, private home owners also! Posh people dump rubbish to! Surely it is cheaper to have one of theses clean up week ends, than just leaving it for the council to go from area to area! Wasting time and money! Also saving the environment by not using petroleum to drive from these areas, or just running the engine while sitting in the vans. (Which you see a lot of not only council workers do, but many of the tadesmens today!)
[quote][p][bold]jh137[/bold] wrote: This looks like empty house syndrome to me. There are plenty of council trucks (and scrap guys, who despite poor reputation, do a good cleaning up job) driving round collecting dumped stuff. Surely if there were official places/collection points, not council tips, but more local, maybe in a corner of supermarket car parks? if they were free for everyone to use, it could just be collected from there, reducing illegal dumping? Ive just put up with 2 days of workmen burning foam filled furniture (surely illegal?) in the garden of the empty house next door and brought on the back of a sign written truck from one of their other empty properties. if there was a free to use service maybe they could have just taken it there (i believe businesses currently have to pay to use council tips)...just an idea. BTW not everyone has transport to go to the council tip. As to Royds having a bad problem, they used to do a 'big clean up' each summer and people would put stuff out to be collected free of charge but they stopped doing that a few years ago...hmmm a connection?[/p][/quote]I just posted about this! After the clean up week ends the estates were clear for sometime. Everyone could use this, private home owners also! Posh people dump rubbish to! Surely it is cheaper to have one of theses clean up week ends, than just leaving it for the council to go from area to area! Wasting time and money! Also saving the environment by not using petroleum to drive from these areas, or just running the engine while sitting in the vans. (Which you see a lot of not only council workers do, but many of the tadesmens today!) cheeky1
  • Score: 3

12:44pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Biggus Dickus says...

Well what do you expect. Last year it was free to have an old mattress removed. It's £15 now !! Robbers !!!
Well what do you expect. Last year it was free to have an old mattress removed. It's £15 now !! Robbers !!! Biggus Dickus
  • Score: 9

12:49pm Wed 6 Aug 14

WayneRouke says...

cibasteve wrote:
Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip.
It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip.
Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish.
Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.
I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits.

They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) .

I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway)..
[quote][p][bold]cibasteve[/bold] wrote: Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip. It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip. Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish. Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.[/p][/quote]I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits. They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) . I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway).. WayneRouke
  • Score: 16

12:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

WayneRouke says...

cibasteve wrote:
Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip.
It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip.
Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish.
Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.
I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits.

They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) .

I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway)..
[quote][p][bold]cibasteve[/bold] wrote: Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip. It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip. Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish. Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.[/p][/quote]I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits. They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) . I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway).. WayneRouke
  • Score: 8

12:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

WayneRouke says...

cibasteve wrote:
Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip.
It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip.
Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish.
Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.
I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits.

They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) .

I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway)..
[quote][p][bold]cibasteve[/bold] wrote: Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip. It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip. Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish. Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.[/p][/quote]I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits. They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) . I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway).. WayneRouke
  • Score: 7

12:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

WayneRouke says...

Whoops, sorry for the multiples.. Web site is playing up and clicked several times..

Apologies from me.
Whoops, sorry for the multiples.. Web site is playing up and clicked several times.. Apologies from me. WayneRouke
  • Score: 10

12:54pm Wed 6 Aug 14

northern pig says...

cockadoodledo wrote:
The problem has been brought on by the council themselves with the permit scheme. Scrap the permits completely and have a free pickup for bulky items. Fly tipping problem solved!!!!
I have found the residential permit scheme works fine. anyone with a residential address can have one on production of proof of where they live . They are free .The main problem is that people are too lazy to go to the recycling centres and dispose of their waste responsibly ,some household items are removed by the council for nothing, for some items there is a small charge.As the editorial states much of the problem is rubbish dumped on a industrial scale which is clearly the work of cowboys who offer to remove rubbish for a small charge. The root cause as i see it,is the uncaring attitude of many of the people who have moved to Bradford from places where it is normal to discard items no longer wanted by just throwing them out on the street.
[quote][p][bold]cockadoodledo[/bold] wrote: The problem has been brought on by the council themselves with the permit scheme. Scrap the permits completely and have a free pickup for bulky items. Fly tipping problem solved!!!![/p][/quote]I have found the residential permit scheme works fine. anyone with a residential address can have one on production of proof of where they live . They are free .The main problem is that people are too lazy to go to the recycling centres and dispose of their waste responsibly ,some household items are removed by the council for nothing, for some items there is a small charge.As the editorial states much of the problem is rubbish dumped on a industrial scale which is clearly the work of cowboys who offer to remove rubbish for a small charge. The root cause as i see it,is the uncaring attitude of many of the people who have moved to Bradford from places where it is normal to discard items no longer wanted by just throwing them out on the street. northern pig
  • Score: 13

1:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

PTN says...

If i have anything worth recycling i always put it out by the front gate on an evening with a sign saying help your self. Its usually gone by lunchtime the following day and if not i take it to the tip just before closing time the same day. To date , 90% of what i have put out has been taken either by the rag and bone men or needy local families. Thats proper recyling.
If i have anything worth recycling i always put it out by the front gate on an evening with a sign saying help your self. Its usually gone by lunchtime the following day and if not i take it to the tip just before closing time the same day. To date , 90% of what i have put out has been taken either by the rag and bone men or needy local families. Thats proper recyling. PTN
  • Score: 10

1:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

cibasteve says...

WayneRouke wrote:
cibasteve wrote:
Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip.
It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip.
Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish.
Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.
I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits.

They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) .

I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway)..
Ok it sounds like we are never going to rid ourselves of this menace if the powers that be pass people from pillar to post.
Shame on them and another kick in the teeth for people that care about our environment.
The private land thing seems all to familiar as I filmed some illegal dumping from a company with a sign written van.
The explanation the council gave me was the land was private and the owner was tipping on his own land.
Strange that I could supply them with the rightful owners name and address but seeing as though the tippers company was owned by a Bradford Councillor it didn't seem to matter.
The Environmental Health department wouldn't investigate the rightful owner issue because it would cost them £30 odd quid at land registry, I was even asked if I had an issue with people of a different ethic origin.
I still say the people who fly tip will do so irrespective of whether they have a permit or not but it doesn't help when the people who are there to help don't want to help and don't seem to care.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cibasteve[/bold] wrote: Time to clamp down on the filth who fly tip. It's no good talking about council permits and home collections of rubbish as the people who fly tip will always fly tip. Find them, fine them and give them community service cleaning up the illegally dumped rubbish. Problem is no one ever witnesses the illegal dumping of rubbish.[/p][/quote]I witnessed it. Complete with evidence on y phone. I contacted the police, who referred me to the council. I contacted the council who passed me from pillar to post. Eventually I got through to someone. I informed them I had vehicle registration, photographic evidence of it occurring, and descriptions of the culprits. They simply did not want to know, because the act took place on so called "Private land" (Land previoiusly owned by the council, no owned by a company created by the council) . I gave up after that, and didnt bother (I was packing to move anyway)..[/p][/quote]Ok it sounds like we are never going to rid ourselves of this menace if the powers that be pass people from pillar to post. Shame on them and another kick in the teeth for people that care about our environment. The private land thing seems all to familiar as I filmed some illegal dumping from a company with a sign written van. The explanation the council gave me was the land was private and the owner was tipping on his own land. Strange that I could supply them with the rightful owners name and address but seeing as though the tippers company was owned by a Bradford Councillor it didn't seem to matter. The Environmental Health department wouldn't investigate the rightful owner issue because it would cost them £30 odd quid at land registry, I was even asked if I had an issue with people of a different ethic origin. I still say the people who fly tip will do so irrespective of whether they have a permit or not but it doesn't help when the people who are there to help don't want to help and don't seem to care. cibasteve
  • Score: 14

1:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

alive and awake says...

Council tips should be open for longer hours every day, they should accept any waste without question from householders. Commercial waste is a different matter, but a more economical solution should be found. The tax imposed on skip hire is a disgrace and should be significantly reduced.
The staff at the local tips should be trained to be more customer friendly, and helpful. Sadly these individuals reflect exactly the attitude of almost all Council staff and representatives. THEY FORGET WHO IS PAYING THEIR WAGES, AND PENSIONS!
Council tips should be open for longer hours every day, they should accept any waste without question from householders. Commercial waste is a different matter, but a more economical solution should be found. The tax imposed on skip hire is a disgrace and should be significantly reduced. The staff at the local tips should be trained to be more customer friendly, and helpful. Sadly these individuals reflect exactly the attitude of almost all Council staff and representatives. THEY FORGET WHO IS PAYING THEIR WAGES, AND PENSIONS! alive and awake
  • Score: 9

2:26pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Wyke 1981 says...

Scrap the permit scheme for a start, when you go to dealburn road tip in lowmoor most of the waste is segregated for recycling. So does it matter if the odd person from a Kirklees, Calderdale or leeds uses it.

Bring back the free bulky waste collections, cost was Probally minimal compared to what the cost of clearing up the increased fly tipping

Finally increase the punishment for fly tipping to make it a proper deterrent to the fly tippers.

For it to work you would after have a zero tolerance approach to ANY PERSON of any religion caught fly tipping, and not the usual bradford way of not trying to upset certain group of people in the community for the fear of been called racist.
Scrap the permit scheme for a start, when you go to dealburn road tip in lowmoor most of the waste is segregated for recycling. So does it matter if the odd person from a Kirklees, Calderdale or leeds uses it. Bring back the free bulky waste collections, cost was Probally minimal compared to what the cost of clearing up the increased fly tipping Finally increase the punishment for fly tipping to make it a proper deterrent to the fly tippers. For it to work you would after have a zero tolerance approach to ANY PERSON of any religion caught fly tipping, and not the usual bradford way of not trying to upset certain group of people in the community for the fear of been called racist. Wyke 1981
  • Score: 9

2:36pm Wed 6 Aug 14

llos25 says...

johnnnyboyrev wrote:
The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head.

The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take.

Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them.

The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take.

The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping.

Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days.

Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.
I had no problem and the staff couldn't have been more helpful at Bowling waste disposal even with a foreign registered van when I cleared my mothers house out.A lot of the problems are hearsay in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]johnnnyboyrev[/bold] wrote: The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head. The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take. Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them. The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take. The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping. Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days. Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.[/p][/quote]I had no problem and the staff couldn't have been more helpful at Bowling waste disposal even with a foreign registered van when I cleared my mothers house out.A lot of the problems are hearsay in my opinion. llos25
  • Score: 3

2:41pm Wed 6 Aug 14

tinytoonster says...

johnnnyboyrev wrote:
The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head.

The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take.

Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them.

The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take.

The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping.

Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days.

Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.
10-12 bags?
bit extreme!
[quote][p][bold]johnnnyboyrev[/bold] wrote: The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head. The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take. Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them. The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take. The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping. Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days. Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.[/p][/quote]10-12 bags? bit extreme! tinytoonster
  • Score: -4

2:54pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Wyke 1981 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
johnnnyboyrev wrote:
The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head.

The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take.

Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them.

The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take.

The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping.

Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days.

Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.
10-12 bags?
bit extreme!
I don't think it is a bit extreme, maybe he was having a clear out Or decorating and needed to get rid of the old wallpaper, whatever the reason he tried to get rid of the waste the correct way and was hindered doing this which can't help the fly tipping situation,
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnnyboyrev[/bold] wrote: The council are to blame for this , they make the disposal of waste near on impossible and the staff at Bowling and Low Moor seem to let the so called power of choosing who comes in get to there head. The guys at Low Moor you could only compare to nightclub bouncers and only last week I was turned away on a hot day with a car full of rubbish because one of my many bin bags had Calderdale on and they seemed I must travel 7 miles to the Calderdale site which is complete nonsense for 10-12 bags of rubbish which I might add wasnt taken by the bin men again due to the bin men picking and choosing the amount of bags they take. Bradford council needs a right good shake up , the bin men are awful and drop and leave behind more rubbish than they take , the tip staff make it impossible to drop general household rubbish unless you have various forms of id , bills , proof of address etc and whenever the council are called to question the behavior of the staff dont want to hear anything bad said against them. The council need to re-evaluate how the tips are run and go back to the day where you drive your car in and throw away rubbish , garden cuttings and generally anything that is deemed as waste that the bin men never take. The council are too busy with the money making scheme of Huddersfield Road and writing fines to people for entering the bus lane and letting the district become run down with fly tipping. Nobody would fly tip with the vast quantities we are seeing if the council relaxed the rules and went back to the good old days. Whoever runs Bradford Council is on very borrowed time he or she is not upto the job.[/p][/quote]10-12 bags? bit extreme![/p][/quote]I don't think it is a bit extreme, maybe he was having a clear out Or decorating and needed to get rid of the old wallpaper, whatever the reason he tried to get rid of the waste the correct way and was hindered doing this which can't help the fly tipping situation, Wyke 1981
  • Score: 6

4:23pm Wed 6 Aug 14

aletheia-emet says...

I think it's time the council employed those who are on benefits and give them short-term contracting jobs... a small wage for clearing up an area...
I think it's time the council employed those who are on benefits and give them short-term contracting jobs... a small wage for clearing up an area... aletheia-emet
  • Score: 6

4:37pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Freddy Elliot says...

hortonite wrote:
Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.
Third world people will always behave like third world people. Remember the one about the dog been born in a stable - it will never be a horse.
[quote][p][bold]hortonite[/bold] wrote: Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.[/p][/quote]Third world people will always behave like third world people. Remember the one about the dog been born in a stable - it will never be a horse. Freddy Elliot
  • Score: 17

4:45pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Out of site says...

aletheia-emet wrote:
I think it's time the council employed those who are on benefits and give them short-term contracting jobs... a small wage for clearing up an area...
It might be better to clear out the areas I've not noticed a problem in ilkley or areas that are still white.
[quote][p][bold]aletheia-emet[/bold] wrote: I think it's time the council employed those who are on benefits and give them short-term contracting jobs... a small wage for clearing up an area...[/p][/quote]It might be better to clear out the areas I've not noticed a problem in ilkley or areas that are still white. Out of site
  • Score: 13

4:48pm Wed 6 Aug 14

bd7 helper says...

Lazy not educated unemployed people
Lazy not educated unemployed people bd7 helper
  • Score: 5

5:03pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Smell the coffee says...

Its obvious where the rubbish has come from. Leave it and let them clear it up the lazy sh1ts
Its obvious where the rubbish has come from. Leave it and let them clear it up the lazy sh1ts Smell the coffee
  • Score: 10

5:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

ertnec says...

Its a problem everywere and all over Bradford, it will never get any better. With more to pay if you ring 431000 bulk refuge and the idiots who run the phones. I rang to report flytipping only to be told could you put it in your garden Sir and we will collect it from you and oh by the way we wuill charge you £10 for the pleasure (Knack Off)
Its a problem everywere and all over Bradford, it will never get any better. With more to pay if you ring 431000 bulk refuge and the idiots who run the phones. I rang to report flytipping only to be told could you put it in your garden Sir and we will collect it from you and oh by the way we wuill charge you £10 for the pleasure (Knack Off) ertnec
  • Score: 3

7:18pm Wed 6 Aug 14

ollie59 says...

mr.bradford wrote:
Here's one for the clean up team. High Bank Lane just up from Northcliffe Golf Club. Near opposite where all the dope smokers park up there is a mobile phone mast / sub-station with a load of crap dumped just off road and it's been there for months.
I nearly hit a flat bed parked at 90 degrees to the rubbish on the way up the other day. Assumed it was picking up but you never know! To be fair it looks like some of it has gone now. Maybe the pharmaceutical entrepreneurs who park in the spot you mention have taken it to preserve the beauty of the area!
[quote][p][bold]mr.bradford[/bold] wrote: Here's one for the clean up team. High Bank Lane just up from Northcliffe Golf Club. Near opposite where all the dope smokers park up there is a mobile phone mast / sub-station with a load of crap dumped just off road and it's been there for months.[/p][/quote]I nearly hit a flat bed parked at 90 degrees to the rubbish on the way up the other day. Assumed it was picking up but you never know! To be fair it looks like some of it has gone now. Maybe the pharmaceutical entrepreneurs who park in the spot you mention have taken it to preserve the beauty of the area! ollie59
  • Score: 4

7:20pm Wed 6 Aug 14

arshid says...

Freddy Elliot wrote:
hortonite wrote:
Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.
Third world people will always behave like third world people. Remember the one about the dog been born in a stable - it will never be a horse.
If what you say is true the the police should hve been called don't care for the colour of one's skin yo u commit crime. you do time period
[quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hortonite[/bold] wrote: Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.[/p][/quote]Third world people will always behave like third world people. Remember the one about the dog been born in a stable - it will never be a horse.[/p][/quote]If what you say is true the the police should hve been called don't care for the colour of one's skin yo u commit crime. you do time period arshid
  • Score: 5

7:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

arshid says...

Freddy Elliot wrote:
hortonite wrote:
Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.
Third world people will always behave like third world people. Remember the one about the dog been born in a stable - it will never be a horse.
Lot of people blaming people of colour here. you might be right was in England. don't live their any more but visit almost every year because of family . last year when in bd 7 where old princeville school used to be saw a flat bed truck go to the back of the building started to dump his load people came out started to scream what are you doing he took off down the street towards legrams lane with flat bed still n the air and he was white not just peope of colour do this crime of opportunity who get's caught should be punished period
[quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hortonite[/bold] wrote: Fly tipping is a way of life in Bradford, I was walking on Horton Park ave on the day the council finished tidying up and grassing over the piece of land between Great Horton Road and the lovely new mosque. As the workmen were moving off the site the locals were walking across the road with mattresses etc balanced on their heads, closely followed by hordes of children carrying large cooking oil containers and bin liners of soiled nappies all of which was dumped on the grassed area. When the workmen challenged this, they were treated to racial abuse and threats of violence innit.[/p][/quote]Third world people will always behave like third world people. Remember the one about the dog been born in a stable - it will never be a horse.[/p][/quote]Lot of people blaming people of colour here. you might be right was in England. don't live their any more but visit almost every year because of family . last year when in bd 7 where old princeville school used to be saw a flat bed truck go to the back of the building started to dump his load people came out started to scream what are you doing he took off down the street towards legrams lane with flat bed still n the air and he was white not just peope of colour do this crime of opportunity who get's caught should be punished period arshid
  • Score: 4

7:53pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nowt fresh says...

cheeky1 wrote:
Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use!
But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away!
Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van!
Yes they've set up CAMP on the football pitch at the end of Hawes Road, God knows how long it will take the council to evict them to some other part of Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]cheeky1[/bold] wrote: Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use! But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away! Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van![/p][/quote]Yes they've set up CAMP on the football pitch at the end of Hawes Road, God knows how long it will take the council to evict them to some other part of Bradford. nowt fresh
  • Score: 3

7:56pm Wed 6 Aug 14

nowt fresh says...

aletheia-emet wrote:
cheeky1 wrote:
Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use!
But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away!
Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van!
They've moved from Wibsey Park to Carrbottom Road football ground...

It's going to be a fun weekend cleaning up after them for Sunday Football
Sorry aletheia-emet didn't see your post before I commented above ;-((
[quote][p][bold]aletheia-emet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cheeky1[/bold] wrote: Wibsey Park! If you hurry you can dump your rubbish there! Travelers have just left!!! Left a ton of rubbish! God knows how many bottles on the footie pitch! I myself have picked up loads of bottles and glasses! Which hadn't been broken,but I know if I left them in the end would be! And if you get caught short there's still a spot in the bushes for you to use! But here's a thing for you....council clean up van parked up for ages and no one got out before driving away! Mind you like that famous line in Jaws 'I think we'll need a bigger boat!' The council are gonna need a bigger van![/p][/quote]They've moved from Wibsey Park to Carrbottom Road football ground... It's going to be a fun weekend cleaning up after them for Sunday Football[/p][/quote]Sorry aletheia-emet didn't see your post before I commented above ;-(( nowt fresh
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Wed 6 Aug 14

What?,when?,where? says...

Bradford council should spend more time on catching these anti-social ratbags, how to finance?, easy , have the guys/gals hounding car owners change to hounding litterbugs/flytipper
s. or is that not as lucrative for the council coffers. Jog on.
Bradford council should spend more time on catching these anti-social ratbags, how to finance?, easy , have the guys/gals hounding car owners change to hounding litterbugs/flytipper s. or is that not as lucrative for the council coffers. Jog on. What?,when?,where?
  • Score: 4

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