Bulls Forum: Chairman Marc Green vows to turn a profit at Odsal with Bulls' rugby success 'a by-product’

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Bulls Forum at the Cedar Court hotel. left to right . Danny Potticary, Robbie Hunter-Paul, Steve Ferres, Marc Green.

People queue outside the Cedar Court Hotel before the Bulls Forum.

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BRADFORD Bulls' Odsal stadium will be transformed into a profitable business which will support successful rugby as a 'by-product', chairman Marc Green has announced.

He believes it is necessary to "sweat the assets" which exist at Odsal and then develop the facilities further to create a profitable business which will support the efforts to return the Bulls to the Super League.

Plans for the business were revealed to the T&A ahead of a packed fans meeting at the Cedar Court Hotel where the Big One lottery was relaunched to raise money for youth development work at the club, an area which had been "decimated" said Mr Green.

So many fans turned up for the meeting it had to be delayed by around 40 minutes and some had to stay outside and watch on video screens.

His plans for the club's future and his assurances of commitment to the role were greeted with enthusiasm, though Mr Green admitted when he arrived he had seen it as business opportunity to create a profitable business.

In the months since then he insisted he had been won over by Bradford was now "unarguably red, amber and black".

"I always make promises I can keep and one thing I can promise is to run this club with honesty, integrity and transparency," he said.

"The most important thing for this club is not what goes off on the field. What goes off on the field is a by-product of a business run for profit.

"If this club is run that way, the by-product will be a successful team delivering top class success on the field," he said.

Earlier, he told the T&A he hoped to own the stadium, rather than occupying it as a tenant and was in negotiations over that issue.

The stadium was used for only 0.27 per cent of the time to host rugby matches and it was important to find other uses he said, but ruled out a return of speedway at the venue.

"The site doesn't work properly. We have to make the site work, it has to be a more coherent business," he said.

"We have to sweat the assets we have. We don't use the conference and banqueting to its full potential."

Mr Green declined to go into detail about what other uses may be found for the site in future, but said the first task was to make better use of what was already there.

The old shop had gone to make way for a new joint ticket office and retail outlet, with the result that sales of merchandise had increased by 300 per cent, because fans saw the goods when they turned up to buy tickets.

"It (the site) will be used as a business to generate income 24/7. We will have the money for an extremely successful youth programme, seniors and successful first team," he said.

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11:16am Thu 31 Jul 14

BD16 says...

The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.
The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one. BD16
  • Score: 16

11:45am Thu 31 Jul 14

Hudzilla says...

The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.
The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal. Hudzilla
  • Score: -4

11:54am Thu 31 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Hudzilla wrote:
The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.
Bulls sold the lease to the RFL in order to cover debts. Unfortunately by removing their own asset the bank got nervous and called in the overdraft which led to the pledge and other fire sales to raise funds, and the beginning of the end for the 1st company as Bradford Bulls.

Omar Khan's version two just borrowed and spent like Labour do which probably explains why they had so many Labour MP's, Cllrs, party members onboard.

This is the first time in a long time the club is being run as a business, and it will come out the otherside stronger. But like with BCFC, it will take some time.
[quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.[/p][/quote]Bulls sold the lease to the RFL in order to cover debts. Unfortunately by removing their own asset the bank got nervous and called in the overdraft which led to the pledge and other fire sales to raise funds, and the beginning of the end for the 1st company as Bradford Bulls. Omar Khan's version two just borrowed and spent like Labour do which probably explains why they had so many Labour MP's, Cllrs, party members onboard. This is the first time in a long time the club is being run as a business, and it will come out the otherside stronger. But like with BCFC, it will take some time. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 27

12:00pm Thu 31 Jul 14

axelf1963 says...

Rugby has been secondary for quite some time now at Odsal.I see even Leeds feel Sorry for bulls by playing second string this week.
Rugby has been secondary for quite some time now at Odsal.I see even Leeds feel Sorry for bulls by playing second string this week. axelf1963
  • Score: -5

12:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

BD16 says...

Hudzilla wrote:
The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.
The RFL own the lease for Odsal, the freehold is still owned by the council,
[quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.[/p][/quote]The RFL own the lease for Odsal, the freehold is still owned by the council, BD16
  • Score: 11

12:41pm Thu 31 Jul 14

axelf1963 says...

Semi final and play off games to come is the reason I read on the Leeds forum.
Semi final and play off games to come is the reason I read on the Leeds forum. axelf1963
  • Score: 4

2:20pm Thu 31 Jul 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Hudzilla wrote:
The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.
Bulls sold the lease to the RFL in order to cover debts. Unfortunately by removing their own asset the bank got nervous and called in the overdraft which led to the pledge and other fire sales to raise funds, and the beginning of the end for the 1st company as Bradford Bulls.

Omar Khan's version two just borrowed and spent like Labour do which probably explains why they had so many Labour MP's, Cllrs, party members onboard.

This is the first time in a long time the club is being run as a business, and it will come out the otherside stronger. But like with BCFC, it will take some time.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: The council sold the lease to the RFL. They now own odsal.[/p][/quote]Bulls sold the lease to the RFL in order to cover debts. Unfortunately by removing their own asset the bank got nervous and called in the overdraft which led to the pledge and other fire sales to raise funds, and the beginning of the end for the 1st company as Bradford Bulls. Omar Khan's version two just borrowed and spent like Labour do which probably explains why they had so many Labour MP's, Cllrs, party members onboard. This is the first time in a long time the club is being run as a business, and it will come out the otherside stronger. But like with BCFC, it will take some time.[/p][/quote]Spot on BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 5

2:39pm Thu 31 Jul 14

tinytoonster says...

BD16 wrote:
The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.
i hope not, thats all thats stopping some businessman selling the land for profit and moving the bulls.
he does not need to own it to make a business work.
odsal, HOME of the bulls..
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.[/p][/quote]i hope not, thats all thats stopping some businessman selling the land for profit and moving the bulls. he does not need to own it to make a business work. odsal, HOME of the bulls.. tinytoonster
  • Score: 8

3:10pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
BD16 wrote:
The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.
i hope not, thats all thats stopping some businessman selling the land for profit and moving the bulls.
he does not need to own it to make a business work.
odsal, HOME of the bulls..
I know that I'd be a bot reticent to inject money to improve the stadium if I didn't own it, or at least own the lease.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.[/p][/quote]i hope not, thats all thats stopping some businessman selling the land for profit and moving the bulls. he does not need to own it to make a business work. odsal, HOME of the bulls..[/p][/quote]I know that I'd be a bot reticent to inject money to improve the stadium if I didn't own it, or at least own the lease. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 6

3:48pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bully4us wrote:
There are a couple of chaps I know who would like to meet this idiot if there are any clues to his whereabouts - for a pleasant chat - obviously!
Viking and Raisemeup are all mouth.
[quote][p][bold]bully4us[/bold] wrote: There are a couple of chaps I know who would like to meet this idiot if there are any clues to his whereabouts - for a pleasant chat - obviously![/p][/quote]Viking and Raisemeup are all mouth. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 3

3:58pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

BD16 wrote:
The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.
Of course they would, the Bulls are the councils darling and would sell everyone else down the river to look after them.
Well what do you expect from this Labour council.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: The question is, will Bradford council seriously consider letting the freehold on a prime piece of land, with great motorway links, go on the cheap? Knowing Bradford council, I think I know the answer to that one.[/p][/quote]Of course they would, the Bulls are the councils darling and would sell everyone else down the river to look after them. Well what do you expect from this Labour council. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: -5

4:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Pablo says...

We've heard it all before, Marc.

Odsal is an uninviting place to watch rugby.

Nobody in their right mind would want to use the facilities for anything else.

We need to move away. It's a big hole that eats money.
We've heard it all before, Marc. Odsal is an uninviting place to watch rugby. Nobody in their right mind would want to use the facilities for anything else. We need to move away. It's a big hole that eats money. Pablo
  • Score: -4

4:26pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Parz says...

I was lucky enough to be one of the last few to squeeze into the main room last night (but not lucky enough to get a seat or a bar of chocolate!) They all came across pretty well in my opinion. I've seen Marc Green before when he's come down and stood on the terraces next to where I usually am, but I think we got more Marc the Businessman last night. They were frank and honest, no over enthusiastic banging of the drum and all that, just a case of this is where we are, and this is what we're planning to do. It was a good event. There was not earth shattering news (I'd heard about Sidlow and Olbison earlier in the day) but it was good to see them engaging with the fans, long may it continue.
I was lucky enough to be one of the last few to squeeze into the main room last night (but not lucky enough to get a seat or a bar of chocolate!) They all came across pretty well in my opinion. I've seen Marc Green before when he's come down and stood on the terraces next to where I usually am, but I think we got more Marc the Businessman last night. They were frank and honest, no over enthusiastic banging of the drum and all that, just a case of this is where we are, and this is what we're planning to do. It was a good event. There was not earth shattering news (I'd heard about Sidlow and Olbison earlier in the day) but it was good to see them engaging with the fans, long may it continue. Parz
  • Score: 12

4:32pm Thu 31 Jul 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert.

The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water.

the place needs refurbishment before anything else.
just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: -3

4:46pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert.

The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water.

the place needs refurbishment before anything else.
It needs filling in not refurbishing. It's a terrible venue.
Obviously you are sentimental about it but as others have stated it is an old fashioned, uninviting dump that would cost an absolute fortune to take into the 21st century.
Move to VP, you know it makes sense!
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else.[/p][/quote]It needs filling in not refurbishing. It's a terrible venue. Obviously you are sentimental about it but as others have stated it is an old fashioned, uninviting dump that would cost an absolute fortune to take into the 21st century. Move to VP, you know it makes sense! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -2

5:31pm Thu 31 Jul 14

axelf1963 says...

We dont want you at the valley
We dont want you at the valley axelf1963
  • Score: -4

5:32pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Parz says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else.
What sort of crowds does Speedway attract? Whenever I've seen it on TV it seems almost dead.

(Not a pop at Speedway by the way, a genuine question.)
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else.[/p][/quote]What sort of crowds does Speedway attract? Whenever I've seen it on TV it seems almost dead. (Not a pop at Speedway by the way, a genuine question.) Parz
  • Score: 3

7:17pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Judi B says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert.

The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water.

the place needs refurbishment before anything else.
I don't think it was Marc Green that sold off the Speedway barriers, I think it was Mark Moore because they had been condemned by Health and Safety.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else.[/p][/quote]I don't think it was Marc Green that sold off the Speedway barriers, I think it was Mark Moore because they had been condemned by Health and Safety. Judi B
  • Score: 5

7:23pm Thu 31 Jul 14

mines a pint says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert.

The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water.

the place needs refurbishment before anything else.
If you are going to slag the guy off at least get your facts straight Mark Moore & his cronies sold the barriers before Marc Green had anything to do with the club (other than lend OK money)

Unlike the previous 3 regimes Green has approached the Bulls as a business first & has said from the outset the club will operate within it's means & his main priority is to make it a successful business ie solvent

As far as I can see he said nothing yesterday to contradict that
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else.[/p][/quote]If you are going to slag the guy off at least get your facts straight Mark Moore & his cronies sold the barriers before Marc Green had anything to do with the club (other than lend OK money) Unlike the previous 3 regimes Green has approached the Bulls as a business first & has said from the outset the club will operate within it's means & his main priority is to make it a successful business ie solvent As far as I can see he said nothing yesterday to contradict that mines a pint
  • Score: 8

7:34pm Thu 31 Jul 14

emerald tyke says...

Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockcars who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!!
Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockcars who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!! emerald tyke
  • Score: -5

8:50pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Worstbus says...

Odsal tip. Bullocks don't even own it. Would never catch me giving money to the cheating low life.

FOYB!!!
Odsal tip. Bullocks don't even own it. Would never catch me giving money to the cheating low life. FOYB!!! Worstbus
  • Score: -3

10:21pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Videoref says...

Worstbus wrote:
Odsal tip. Bullocks don't even own it. Would never catch me giving money to the cheating low life.

FOYB!!!
Another academic
[quote][p][bold]Worstbus[/bold] wrote: Odsal tip. Bullocks don't even own it. Would never catch me giving money to the cheating low life. FOYB!!![/p][/quote]Another academic Videoref
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Thu 31 Jul 14

1964gc says...

mines a pint wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert.

The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water.

the place needs refurbishment before anything else.
If you are going to slag the guy off at least get your facts straight Mark Moore & his cronies sold the barriers before Marc Green had anything to do with the club (other than lend OK money)

Unlike the previous 3 regimes Green has approached the Bulls as a business first & has said from the outset the club will operate within it's means & his main priority is to make it a successful business ie solvent

As far as I can see he said nothing yesterday to contradict that
The mr Moore who did not even own the club!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: just sating the obvious and nothing new; we had this with Khan and his big drive for asian weddings and the massive loss that was the 80's concert. The simplest solution to get Odsal working would have been to bring back speedway but as Green has sold off the safety barriers for scrape that is now dead in the water. the place needs refurbishment before anything else.[/p][/quote]If you are going to slag the guy off at least get your facts straight Mark Moore & his cronies sold the barriers before Marc Green had anything to do with the club (other than lend OK money) Unlike the previous 3 regimes Green has approached the Bulls as a business first & has said from the outset the club will operate within it's means & his main priority is to make it a successful business ie solvent As far as I can see he said nothing yesterday to contradict that[/p][/quote]The mr Moore who did not even own the club!!!! 1964gc
  • Score: 4

10:38pm Thu 31 Jul 14

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bully4us wrote:
There are a couple of chaps I know who would like to meet this idiot if there are any clues to his whereabouts - for a pleasant chat - obviously!
Viking and Raisemeup are all mouth.
Much obliged TVOR, it's called communication of ideas and thoughts that invariably is a positive way that life moves forward.
In your case I suppose your use of hot air is usually brought about by an inert gas under pressure, or as you invariably think of yourself as an expert, which as we all know is X the unknown and SPURT a drip under pressure??
Being all mouth has it's compensations.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bully4us[/bold] wrote: There are a couple of chaps I know who would like to meet this idiot if there are any clues to his whereabouts - for a pleasant chat - obviously![/p][/quote]Viking and Raisemeup are all mouth.[/p][/quote]Much obliged TVOR, it's called communication of ideas and thoughts that invariably is a positive way that life moves forward. In your case I suppose your use of hot air is usually brought about by an inert gas under pressure, or as you invariably think of yourself as an expert, which as we all know is X the unknown and SPURT a drip under pressure?? Being all mouth has it's compensations. raisemeup
  • Score: 4

10:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

raisemeup says...

emerald tyke wrote:
Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockca
rs who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!!
It was a necessity to take down the barriers, due to H&S certification .
MG wasn't involved in the sale or removing of the barriers, it was Mark Moore and the directors at that time, they also repaired a great area of the Rooley lane end terraces.
And what sort of revenue would Speedway generate? Plus with the promoters wanting the lions share, just what profit would there be?
One or two people open their mouth before engaging the brain.
If someone can offer a rationale argument people will listen, but please cut out the insults and the inaccuracies.
[quote][p][bold]emerald tyke[/bold] wrote: Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockca rs who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!![/p][/quote]It was a necessity to take down the barriers, due to H&S certification . MG wasn't involved in the sale or removing of the barriers, it was Mark Moore and the directors at that time, they also repaired a great area of the Rooley lane end terraces. And what sort of revenue would Speedway generate? Plus with the promoters wanting the lions share, just what profit would there be? One or two people open their mouth before engaging the brain. If someone can offer a rationale argument people will listen, but please cut out the insults and the inaccuracies. raisemeup
  • Score: 3

11:03pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Judi B says...

raisemeup wrote:
emerald tyke wrote:
Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockca

rs who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!!
It was a necessity to take down the barriers, due to H&S certification .
MG wasn't involved in the sale or removing of the barriers, it was Mark Moore and the directors at that time, they also repaired a great area of the Rooley lane end terraces.
And what sort of revenue would Speedway generate? Plus with the promoters wanting the lions share, just what profit would there be?
One or two people open their mouth before engaging the brain.
If someone can offer a rationale argument people will listen, but please cut out the insults and the inaccuracies.
Thanks raisemeup! I thought I was right about H & S being involved and the Marc Green was not even there at the time.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emerald tyke[/bold] wrote: Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockca rs who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!![/p][/quote]It was a necessity to take down the barriers, due to H&S certification . MG wasn't involved in the sale or removing of the barriers, it was Mark Moore and the directors at that time, they also repaired a great area of the Rooley lane end terraces. And what sort of revenue would Speedway generate? Plus with the promoters wanting the lions share, just what profit would there be? One or two people open their mouth before engaging the brain. If someone can offer a rationale argument people will listen, but please cut out the insults and the inaccuracies.[/p][/quote]Thanks raisemeup! I thought I was right about H & S being involved and the Marc Green was not even there at the time. Judi B
  • Score: 2

11:06pm Thu 31 Jul 14

raisemeup says...

Videoref wrote:
Worstbus wrote:
Odsal tip. Bullocks don't even own it. Would never catch me giving money to the cheating low life.

FOYB!!!
Another academic
Well that's a relief isn't it Video Ref, if we thought we had to entertain the village idiot as well as being relegated, it would be a step too far!!
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Worstbus[/bold] wrote: Odsal tip. Bullocks don't even own it. Would never catch me giving money to the cheating low life. FOYB!!![/p][/quote]Another academic[/p][/quote]Well that's a relief isn't it Video Ref, if we thought we had to entertain the village idiot as well as being relegated, it would be a step too far!! raisemeup
  • Score: -1

7:28am Fri 1 Aug 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Lots of rose tinted specs on here for a man that has done nothing but take the Club into administration and then manage our relegation by not investing in the team since he got his hands on the club under the most dodgy bidding process.

Before the usual if it was not for him we would not have a Club rubbish starts on here; there were at least two other serious parties that were talking to OK about buying the Club from him when the rug was pulled out from under.

The sale of the safety barriers was started by MM & RW and completed by MG who was at the Club at the time even though it was behind the scenes; it was nothing to do with health and safety as spun by the board but purely cash.

If it was a health and safety issue then why have the safety barriers not been replaced?
Lots of rose tinted specs on here for a man that has done nothing but take the Club into administration and then manage our relegation by not investing in the team since he got his hands on the club under the most dodgy bidding process. Before the usual if it was not for him we would not have a Club rubbish starts on here; there were at least two other serious parties that were talking to OK about buying the Club from him when the rug was pulled out from under. The sale of the safety barriers was started by MM & RW and completed by MG who was at the Club at the time even though it was behind the scenes; it was nothing to do with health and safety as spun by the board but purely cash. If it was a health and safety issue then why have the safety barriers not been replaced? fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 1

9:09am Fri 1 Aug 14

theoutsider says...

If Green is ruling out a return of motorsport to Odsal then great as far as I am concerned Thats from a Speedway fan by the way!. You see already Green is running his project up a cull-de-sac and failing to understand what Odsal Stadium has to offer to himself; the Bulls and the wider district. But fine lets see what his plans are because I can guarantee you this we will be no further forward in 10 years time harnessing the benefit Odsal can bring to Bradford and the wider district. Mr Green does not understand Odsal; how it can link into the prosperity of the City; its history and significance. But you cannot blame; for he is just one more of countless 'dreamers' who come and go. Odsal needs proper understanding; serious commitment; a sporting club at its core and opening up to varied sporting; business and commercial users. Mr Garside and his Superdome at the turn of the centuary was the right thing for Odsal; Bradford and the wider conurbation. We would be reaping the rewards of all of that now. There would be no Leeds Arena because all the big events sporting and otherwise would be here in Bradford. We would have been a centre for the Olympics 2012; Bradford City would be housed at Odsal and the Bulls. But no one gets ? One analogy I offer you is the Veltins Arena Gelsenkichen home of Bundesliga top side FC Schalke 04. If you go to GE there nothing to it. Former mining town; 30% unemployment but the Arena and the football team are at the heart of the community and its economy Bradford could have the same from a properly developed and used Odsal Stadium but no one understands that.
As a Speedway fan I have long given up on Odsal and any return to the City. It is wrong ever to deny the integral part the sport has played in the stadiums history but there will always be those who will airbrush things out of history.
Theres no future for Odsal Stadium as a stand alone second tier Rugby venue thats for sure. With next to little hope of a return to Super League in the next decade; you have to admire Mr Greens bluster here. But my guess its more about aquiring the stadium and the land and much less putting the Bulls; and this iconic Bradford sporting venue at the heart of the City and wider district.
If Green is ruling out a return of motorsport to Odsal then great as far as I am concerned Thats from a Speedway fan by the way!. You see already Green is running his project up a cull-de-sac and failing to understand what Odsal Stadium has to offer to himself; the Bulls and the wider district. But fine lets see what his plans are because I can guarantee you this we will be no further forward in 10 years time harnessing the benefit Odsal can bring to Bradford and the wider district. Mr Green does not understand Odsal; how it can link into the prosperity of the City; its history and significance. But you cannot blame; for he is just one more of countless 'dreamers' who come and go. Odsal needs proper understanding; serious commitment; a sporting club at its core and opening up to varied sporting; business and commercial users. Mr Garside and his Superdome at the turn of the centuary was the right thing for Odsal; Bradford and the wider conurbation. We would be reaping the rewards of all of that now. There would be no Leeds Arena because all the big events sporting and otherwise would be here in Bradford. We would have been a centre for the Olympics 2012; Bradford City would be housed at Odsal and the Bulls. But no one gets ? One analogy I offer you is the Veltins Arena Gelsenkichen home of Bundesliga top side FC Schalke 04. If you go to GE there nothing to it. Former mining town; 30% unemployment but the Arena and the football team are at the heart of the community and its economy Bradford could have the same from a properly developed and used Odsal Stadium but no one understands that. As a Speedway fan I have long given up on Odsal and any return to the City. It is wrong ever to deny the integral part the sport has played in the stadiums history but there will always be those who will airbrush things out of history. Theres no future for Odsal Stadium as a stand alone second tier Rugby venue thats for sure. With next to little hope of a return to Super League in the next decade; you have to admire Mr Greens bluster here. But my guess its more about aquiring the stadium and the land and much less putting the Bulls; and this iconic Bradford sporting venue at the heart of the City and wider district. theoutsider
  • Score: 1

10:31am Fri 1 Aug 14

axelf1963 says...

Wake me up
Wake me up axelf1963
  • Score: -2

1:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

theoutsider wrote:
If Green is ruling out a return of motorsport to Odsal then great as far as I am concerned Thats from a Speedway fan by the way!. You see already Green is running his project up a cull-de-sac and failing to understand what Odsal Stadium has to offer to himself; the Bulls and the wider district. But fine lets see what his plans are because I can guarantee you this we will be no further forward in 10 years time harnessing the benefit Odsal can bring to Bradford and the wider district. Mr Green does not understand Odsal; how it can link into the prosperity of the City; its history and significance. But you cannot blame; for he is just one more of countless 'dreamers' who come and go. Odsal needs proper understanding; serious commitment; a sporting club at its core and opening up to varied sporting; business and commercial users. Mr Garside and his Superdome at the turn of the centuary was the right thing for Odsal; Bradford and the wider conurbation. We would be reaping the rewards of all of that now. There would be no Leeds Arena because all the big events sporting and otherwise would be here in Bradford. We would have been a centre for the Olympics 2012; Bradford City would be housed at Odsal and the Bulls. But no one gets ? One analogy I offer you is the Veltins Arena Gelsenkichen home of Bundesliga top side FC Schalke 04. If you go to GE there nothing to it. Former mining town; 30% unemployment but the Arena and the football team are at the heart of the community and its economy Bradford could have the same from a properly developed and used Odsal Stadium but no one understands that.
As a Speedway fan I have long given up on Odsal and any return to the City. It is wrong ever to deny the integral part the sport has played in the stadiums history but there will always be those who will airbrush things out of history.
Theres no future for Odsal Stadium as a stand alone second tier Rugby venue thats for sure. With next to little hope of a return to Super League in the next decade; you have to admire Mr Greens bluster here. But my guess its more about aquiring the stadium and the land and much less putting the Bulls; and this iconic Bradford sporting venue at the heart of the City and wider district.
You think the City fans really want to see the team play there again?
[quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: If Green is ruling out a return of motorsport to Odsal then great as far as I am concerned Thats from a Speedway fan by the way!. You see already Green is running his project up a cull-de-sac and failing to understand what Odsal Stadium has to offer to himself; the Bulls and the wider district. But fine lets see what his plans are because I can guarantee you this we will be no further forward in 10 years time harnessing the benefit Odsal can bring to Bradford and the wider district. Mr Green does not understand Odsal; how it can link into the prosperity of the City; its history and significance. But you cannot blame; for he is just one more of countless 'dreamers' who come and go. Odsal needs proper understanding; serious commitment; a sporting club at its core and opening up to varied sporting; business and commercial users. Mr Garside and his Superdome at the turn of the centuary was the right thing for Odsal; Bradford and the wider conurbation. We would be reaping the rewards of all of that now. There would be no Leeds Arena because all the big events sporting and otherwise would be here in Bradford. We would have been a centre for the Olympics 2012; Bradford City would be housed at Odsal and the Bulls. But no one gets ? One analogy I offer you is the Veltins Arena Gelsenkichen home of Bundesliga top side FC Schalke 04. If you go to GE there nothing to it. Former mining town; 30% unemployment but the Arena and the football team are at the heart of the community and its economy Bradford could have the same from a properly developed and used Odsal Stadium but no one understands that. As a Speedway fan I have long given up on Odsal and any return to the City. It is wrong ever to deny the integral part the sport has played in the stadiums history but there will always be those who will airbrush things out of history. Theres no future for Odsal Stadium as a stand alone second tier Rugby venue thats for sure. With next to little hope of a return to Super League in the next decade; you have to admire Mr Greens bluster here. But my guess its more about aquiring the stadium and the land and much less putting the Bulls; and this iconic Bradford sporting venue at the heart of the City and wider district.[/p][/quote]You think the City fans really want to see the team play there again? Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: -2

1:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

raisemeup wrote:
emerald tyke wrote:
Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockca

rs who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!!
It was a necessity to take down the barriers, due to H&S certification .
MG wasn't involved in the sale or removing of the barriers, it was Mark Moore and the directors at that time, they also repaired a great area of the Rooley lane end terraces.
And what sort of revenue would Speedway generate? Plus with the promoters wanting the lions share, just what profit would there be?
One or two people open their mouth before engaging the brain.
If someone can offer a rationale argument people will listen, but please cut out the insults and the inaccuracies.
What were the tons of safety barrier going to do, jump on top of the players and squash them.
You should be called Wakemeup and take a leaf out of your own book and engage brain before starting mouth.
That goes for your typing too.
Just admit it, TVOR rattles you because he knows more than you could even muster.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emerald tyke[/bold] wrote: Last time I looked I think BRADFORD owned Odsal not the Bulls!! what fans speedway has is immaterial to the Bulls plans, but they hadnt the decency to talk properly with the promoter of speedway&stockca rs who WERE willing to invest in the stadium without ownership.... selling off the fence was their way of ensuring motorsports dont get back or find it hard to. H&S my a***, that fence had been ok all along til there was rumblings about motorsports making enquiries for a return. Bradford sure ensure more sports are able to use that stadium not just the Bulls as this can only be good for the City and the stadium. Maybe it could get more improvements done if more had use of it. Good job Bfd Council had the guts to invest for the '85 World final of Speedway, or the Bulls fans wouldnt be so comfy now. Hold on to your assets Bradford before someone sells em on!![/p][/quote]It was a necessity to take down the barriers, due to H&S certification . MG wasn't involved in the sale or removing of the barriers, it was Mark Moore and the directors at that time, they also repaired a great area of the Rooley lane end terraces. And what sort of revenue would Speedway generate? Plus with the promoters wanting the lions share, just what profit would there be? One or two people open their mouth before engaging the brain. If someone can offer a rationale argument people will listen, but please cut out the insults and the inaccuracies.[/p][/quote]What were the tons of safety barrier going to do, jump on top of the players and squash them. You should be called Wakemeup and take a leaf out of your own book and engage brain before starting mouth. That goes for your typing too. Just admit it, TVOR rattles you because he knows more than you could even muster. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: -1

2:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

bradfordbronco says...

It wasn't just the safety barriers. They needed to spend £1000's laying down a new track!

Odsal remains a prime site for industry, commerce or housing. if only it could be sold and a smaller purpose built ground built alongside the new development.

Don't know the in's and out's, but if they wanted to use the facilities more couldn't they start by holding the meeting in the coral stand?
It wasn't just the safety barriers. They needed to spend £1000's laying down a new track! Odsal remains a prime site for industry, commerce or housing. if only it could be sold and a smaller purpose built ground built alongside the new development. Don't know the in's and out's, but if they wanted to use the facilities more couldn't they start by holding the meeting in the coral stand? bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

4:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

theoutsider says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Wake me up
.....when its all over when I'm wiser and I'm older. All this time I was finding myself and I didnt know I was lost. Great song ! agreed.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Wake me up[/p][/quote].....when its all over when I'm wiser and I'm older. All this time I was finding myself and I didnt know I was lost. Great song ! agreed. theoutsider
  • Score: -2

10:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

emerald tyke says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
It wasn't just the safety barriers. They needed to spend £1000's laying down a new track!

Odsal remains a prime site for industry, commerce or housing. if only it could be sold and a smaller purpose built ground built alongside the new development.

Don't know the in's and out's, but if they wanted to use the facilities more couldn't they start by holding the meeting in the coral stand?
What the track cost was not going to affect the Bulls, it wasnt their money (or lack of it as it turns out haha)! that was going to pay for it. it was the speedway and stockcars promoters who were jointly going to foot the bill for tracklaying and any work needed for speedwaystockcars, and they didnt want to be owners of the stadium either!! Willing to share.
All they were proposing was that a ground share COULD have helped all parties and made more use of this stadium which has a history of more than just rugby, but instead the Bulls (as always) want it for just themselves (selfish b******s)
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: It wasn't just the safety barriers. They needed to spend £1000's laying down a new track! Odsal remains a prime site for industry, commerce or housing. if only it could be sold and a smaller purpose built ground built alongside the new development. Don't know the in's and out's, but if they wanted to use the facilities more couldn't they start by holding the meeting in the coral stand?[/p][/quote]What the track cost was not going to affect the Bulls, it wasnt their money (or lack of it as it turns out haha)! that was going to pay for it. it was the speedway and stockcars promoters who were jointly going to foot the bill for tracklaying and any work needed for speedwaystockcars, and they didnt want to be owners of the stadium either!! Willing to share. All they were proposing was that a ground share COULD have helped all parties and made more use of this stadium which has a history of more than just rugby, but instead the Bulls (as always) want it for just themselves (selfish b******s) emerald tyke
  • Score: -2

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