New Bradford city centre brewery to be 'open by end of the year'

New Bradford city centre brewery to be 'open by end of the year'

FUTURE: An artists impression of how the new brewery and brew pub will look.

NIGHTSPOT: What the bar at the new brewery will look like

First published in News

THE group behind a new £400,000 brewery in Bradford city centre is toasting news that its plans have been given the go-ahead.

And it hopes that the business could be open and producing brews by November.

The Bradford Brewery and Brewfactory pub will be based at the former Shaw's Moisture Metres factory on Rawson Road, near Rawson Market - a building that has been empty for eight years.

Work on the development will begin next month and will be part funded by Bradford Council's City Centre Growth Zone fund which was set up to attract business to the centre.

It will create 11 jobs and eventually produce around 16,000 pints a week.

It means beer will be brewed in the city centre for the first time since Hammonds Bradford Brewery closed in 1955.

Managing Director Matthew Halliday said: "We’re absolutely thrilled with the decision and I'd like to thank the Bradford Council staff and councillors who were involved in ensuring this application was processed so quickly and effectively. We're aware it's a hugely ambitious scheme but the council were really supportive and positive about what we're trying to achieve.

"We're now looking forward to getting builders on site and turning this lovely old factory into a fully operational brewery and pub."

Additional funding will come from Dragon's Den star Doug Richards, who is supporting Mr Halliday's plans.

Designer David Craig, of David Craig Design Consultancy in Saltaire, said "The scheme was approved after some minor negotiations regarding materials, colours, flue size and signage design. I am delighted with the outcome, especially that we were able to retain the brewery flues and large mounted brewery signs, as these are vital elements of the building's new identity.

"The development already has conditional building control approval and while we were waiting for the planning decision, we have been busy working on detailed designs and specifications with our structural engineer and brewery consultant – which means we can start construction work as soon as a contractor is appointed.

"It’s such an exciting project to be associated with as the development will bring a redundant building back to life, create new employment opportunities and stimulate further regeneration of the city. I am really looking forward to watching the project take shape - and I can't wait to celebrate its completion with a proper pie and a pint!"

The planning officer's report says: "The proposal is welcomed as it would give rise to a business unit and employment ."

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6:45am Thu 24 Jul 14

Big Bad Honey Badger says...

But will you be able to get a decent pint of mass produced lager? There are too many places selling warm homemade craft (or crap) beer these days. There is also a rise in people taking businesses that are thriving in leeds and copying them in Bradford, is this the right direction? do we really want to be anything like Leeds with all it's hipster fakery?
But will you be able to get a decent pint of mass produced lager? There are too many places selling warm homemade craft (or crap) beer these days. There is also a rise in people taking businesses that are thriving in leeds and copying them in Bradford, is this the right direction? do we really want to be anything like Leeds with all it's hipster fakery? Big Bad Honey Badger
  • Score: -61

6:56am Thu 24 Jul 14

Albion. says...

I wonder if the council will try to organise a p*** up in it. . . . Some say they couldn't.
I wonder if the council will try to organise a p*** up in it. . . . Some say they couldn't. Albion.
  • Score: 33

7:01am Thu 24 Jul 14

BCFC1911 says...

Who drew that artists impression?

A 4 year old?
Who drew that artists impression? A 4 year old? BCFC1911
  • Score: 14

8:03am Thu 24 Jul 14

Bikerbeardy says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
Who drew that artists impression?

A 4 year old?
hehe, was just thinking that myself, the comment about being like Leeds is crap, I would rather Bradford was like Leeds than the shitole it is now
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: Who drew that artists impression? A 4 year old?[/p][/quote]hehe, was just thinking that myself, the comment about being like Leeds is crap, I would rather Bradford was like Leeds than the shitole it is now Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 37

8:28am Thu 24 Jul 14

fabricator666 says...

Bikerbeardy wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
Who drew that artists impression?

A 4 year old?
hehe, was just thinking that myself, the comment about being like Leeds is crap, I would rather Bradford was like Leeds than the shitole it is now
so would I. I just wonder how welcoming the local population around there will welcome it?
[quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: Who drew that artists impression? A 4 year old?[/p][/quote]hehe, was just thinking that myself, the comment about being like Leeds is crap, I would rather Bradford was like Leeds than the shitole it is now[/p][/quote]so would I. I just wonder how welcoming the local population around there will welcome it? fabricator666
  • Score: 18

9:26am Thu 24 Jul 14

minkiebantam says...

This is great for the City! How can anyone complain about a new business springing up, when the city has looked like a ghost town (apart from the deadbeat dole dossers) for such a long time!? Any investment in Bradford should be welcomed with open arms!
And the comment about following in Leeds footsteps above. Have you been to Leeds lately? It is a Thriving busy northern England city. Great shops, Great Bars and restaurants and you can walk round without the threat of being mugged or abused by drunks. Why wouldnt you want your home town to be like Leeds??
I am Bradford Through and through. But work and go out in Leeds. The reason? Bradford city centre is a horrible building site full of Pound shops and mobile phone shops. Thats about it!?
The quicker this is turned round and the fantastic buildings of Bradford are utilised, the better in my opinion.
This is great for the City! How can anyone complain about a new business springing up, when the city has looked like a ghost town (apart from the deadbeat dole dossers) for such a long time!? Any investment in Bradford should be welcomed with open arms! And the comment about following in Leeds footsteps above. Have you been to Leeds lately? It is a Thriving busy northern England city. Great shops, Great Bars and restaurants and you can walk round without the threat of being mugged or abused by drunks. Why wouldnt you want your home town to be like Leeds?? I am Bradford Through and through. But work and go out in Leeds. The reason? Bradford city centre is a horrible building site full of Pound shops and mobile phone shops. Thats about it!? The quicker this is turned round and the fantastic buildings of Bradford are utilised, the better in my opinion. minkiebantam
  • Score: 57

11:07am Thu 24 Jul 14

bignozer says...

Great news and good luck, a brewery and a pub opening, makes a change from what's usually built.
Great news and good luck, a brewery and a pub opening, makes a change from what's usually built. bignozer
  • Score: 24

11:41am Thu 24 Jul 14

Supernova0610 says...

This is very good news for the city and I hope that the many real ale loving Bradfordians out there give it a chance to be a success, same as has happened with the Sparrow Bier cafe on North Parade.
I wish people would stop painting Leeds City Centre as some sort of Utopian wonder city though. I work in Leeds and have done since November 2013.
Since then, I've been nearly knocked clean off my feet by a fleeing shoplifter, dodged 2 chav lads who started a fight on each other right in front of me, fended off many street beggars and charity muggers on my 10 minute walk from Leeds station to the Headrow on a daily basis, seen drunks who have passed out in pools of their own sick and urine on Park Row been carted off in Ambulances and 2 days ago watched on as the police separated and then arrested 2 drunk women who were fighting on the concourse at Leeds station, at 5pm in the afternoon, surrounded by members of the public including young children!!
Yes, Bradford city centre has its many faults but progress seems to be being made slowly and surely and hopefully ventures like this, the Tunnel Project, Westfield etc can change Bradfordian opinions and help build Bradford's own identity and stop the comparisons to Leeds.
This is very good news for the city and I hope that the many real ale loving Bradfordians out there give it a chance to be a success, same as has happened with the Sparrow Bier cafe on North Parade. I wish people would stop painting Leeds City Centre as some sort of Utopian wonder city though. I work in Leeds and have done since November 2013. Since then, I've been nearly knocked clean off my feet by a fleeing shoplifter, dodged 2 chav lads who started a fight on each other right in front of me, fended off many street beggars and charity muggers on my 10 minute walk from Leeds station to the Headrow on a daily basis, seen drunks who have passed out in pools of their own sick and urine on Park Row been carted off in Ambulances and 2 days ago watched on as the police separated and then arrested 2 drunk women who were fighting on the concourse at Leeds station, at 5pm in the afternoon, surrounded by members of the public including young children!! Yes, Bradford city centre has its many faults but progress seems to be being made slowly and surely and hopefully ventures like this, the Tunnel Project, Westfield etc can change Bradfordian opinions and help build Bradford's own identity and stop the comparisons to Leeds. Supernova0610
  • Score: 22

12:37pm Thu 24 Jul 14

minkiebantam says...

No where is perfect, Leeds included. All city centres have there problems. But given a choice (and it pains me to say it), I would go to Leeds everyday of the week!?, and do for work!
Its not as if Bradfor ddoesnt have the potential to be Great again, It just needs the right people where it matters to take action and get to grip with what is needed to turn things around.
Yes we have the Westfiled coming, Yes we have some great pubs, Like the sparrow. But more is needed to bring Bradford back to the good old days.
We have a great area called "Little Germany, that has some of the best architectual buldings in the North of England IMO.
Areas like this, The Tunnel project and the Odeon have so much potential to be part of a great city centre. We just need the right people in town Hall to direct it and at the moment there just isnt!?
No where is perfect, Leeds included. All city centres have there problems. But given a choice (and it pains me to say it), I would go to Leeds everyday of the week!?, and do for work! Its not as if Bradfor ddoesnt have the potential to be Great again, It just needs the right people where it matters to take action and get to grip with what is needed to turn things around. Yes we have the Westfiled coming, Yes we have some great pubs, Like the sparrow. But more is needed to bring Bradford back to the good old days. We have a great area called "Little Germany, that has some of the best architectual buldings in the North of England IMO. Areas like this, The Tunnel project and the Odeon have so much potential to be part of a great city centre. We just need the right people in town Hall to direct it and at the moment there just isnt!? minkiebantam
  • Score: 22

1:42pm Thu 24 Jul 14

alive and awake says...

Good idea and good luck. Alas you've chose the wrong location. Why town centre? and all the expense that goes with it. Out of town would have been a far better site.
Good idea and good luck. Alas you've chose the wrong location. Why town centre? and all the expense that goes with it. Out of town would have been a far better site. alive and awake
  • Score: -17

1:46pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Big Bad Honey Badger wrote:
But will you be able to get a decent pint of mass produced lager? There are too many places selling warm homemade craft (or crap) beer these days. There is also a rise in people taking businesses that are thriving in leeds and copying them in Bradford, is this the right direction? do we really want to be anything like Leeds with all it's hipster fakery?
Can you ever get a decent pint of mass produced lager? It's all fizzy p1ss.
I'm presuming your the kind of person who prefers a Big Mac to a proper made 1/4 pounder made using aberdeen angus beef.

Proper ale all the way.

If you want fizzy p1ss join the drunks in City Park with a few cans from the local off licence.
[quote][p][bold]Big Bad Honey Badger[/bold] wrote: But will you be able to get a decent pint of mass produced lager? There are too many places selling warm homemade craft (or crap) beer these days. There is also a rise in people taking businesses that are thriving in leeds and copying them in Bradford, is this the right direction? do we really want to be anything like Leeds with all it's hipster fakery?[/p][/quote]Can you ever get a decent pint of mass produced lager? It's all fizzy p1ss. I'm presuming your the kind of person who prefers a Big Mac to a proper made 1/4 pounder made using aberdeen angus beef. Proper ale all the way. If you want fizzy p1ss join the drunks in City Park with a few cans from the local off licence. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 16

1:47pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Happy_Bloke says...

The artist's impression of the interior indicates that there will also be pies. It's disappointing that the story centered just on the amount of beer being produced and details of the planning permission for flues and signage, and not on the variety of pies and the benefits this too will bring to the City's pie makers.
The artist's impression of the interior indicates that there will also be pies. It's disappointing that the story centered just on the amount of beer being produced and details of the planning permission for flues and signage, and not on the variety of pies and the benefits this too will bring to the City's pie makers. Happy_Bloke
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Thu 24 Jul 14

bachtothefuture says...

16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc)

I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.
16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 4

2:09pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.
A very fair point. No existing business in the city is being given a controbution towards rates, just the new ones. What's to entice them to stay in the City, especially those who have struggled along with the promise of Westfield has been coming soon for the last 10 years?
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: 16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.[/p][/quote]A very fair point. No existing business in the city is being given a controbution towards rates, just the new ones. What's to entice them to stay in the City, especially those who have struggled along with the promise of Westfield has been coming soon for the last 10 years? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 5

2:27pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Peter Tate says...

Hammonds Brewery was not located in Bradford City Centre. Was it then Wallers Brewery on the Odean site(up to 1935?)
Hammonds Brewery was not located in Bradford City Centre. Was it then Wallers Brewery on the Odean site(up to 1935?) Peter Tate
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Thu 24 Jul 14

basil fawlty says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.
Loads of new breweries are continuing to open in Yorkshire and all over the country because the demand for real ale is growing fast, so I don't think there should be a concern about over capacity. But if Bradford Brewey dont produce beers of the right type and quality then they might fail, just like any other brewery.
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: 16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.[/p][/quote]Loads of new breweries are continuing to open in Yorkshire and all over the country because the demand for real ale is growing fast, so I don't think there should be a concern about over capacity. But if Bradford Brewey dont produce beers of the right type and quality then they might fail, just like any other brewery. basil fawlty
  • Score: 9

2:49pm Thu 24 Jul 14

basil fawlty says...

alive and awake wrote:
Good idea and good luck. Alas you've chose the wrong location. Why town centre? and all the expense that goes with it. Out of town would have been a far better site.
There's a massive shortage of quality drinking establishments in Bradford city centre.
The location next to Rawson Market is particularly good as it forms a nice link with other real ale establishments like the New Bee HIve and The Sparrow.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Good idea and good luck. Alas you've chose the wrong location. Why town centre? and all the expense that goes with it. Out of town would have been a far better site.[/p][/quote]There's a massive shortage of quality drinking establishments in Bradford city centre. The location next to Rawson Market is particularly good as it forms a nice link with other real ale establishments like the New Bee HIve and The Sparrow. basil fawlty
  • Score: 17

2:56pm Thu 24 Jul 14

basil fawlty says...

fabricator666 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote: Who drew that artists impression? A 4 year old?
hehe, was just thinking that myself, the comment about being like Leeds is crap, I would rather Bradford was like Leeds than the shitole it is now
so would I. I just wonder how welcoming the local population around there will welcome it?
I doubt that the new pub is intending to be a local but rather targetting real ale drinkers from a much wider area. The locals already have several alternative establishments in the area.
[quote][p][bold]fabricator666[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: Who drew that artists impression? A 4 year old?[/p][/quote]hehe, was just thinking that myself, the comment about being like Leeds is crap, I would rather Bradford was like Leeds than the shitole it is now[/p][/quote]so would I. I just wonder how welcoming the local population around there will welcome it?[/p][/quote]I doubt that the new pub is intending to be a local but rather targetting real ale drinkers from a much wider area. The locals already have several alternative establishments in the area. basil fawlty
  • Score: 8

2:59pm Thu 24 Jul 14

pcmanners says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc)

I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.
This subsidised Bradford Brewery business will have to take market share from our other breweries if it is to survive. Given their tight operating margins this will probably mean redundancies at the other craft breweries. We could end up with a net loss of jobs.

This is why states, especially socialist states, should never interfere in the market.
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: 16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.[/p][/quote]This subsidised Bradford Brewery business will have to take market share from our other breweries if it is to survive. Given their tight operating margins this will probably mean redundancies at the other craft breweries. We could end up with a net loss of jobs. This is why states, especially socialist states, should never interfere in the market. pcmanners
  • Score: 0

3:21pm Thu 24 Jul 14

bluebluerobin says...

basil fawlty wrote:
bachtothefuture wrote:
16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.
Loads of new breweries are continuing to open in Yorkshire and all over the country because the demand for real ale is growing fast, so I don't think there should be a concern about over capacity. But if Bradford Brewey dont produce beers of the right type and quality then they might fail, just like any other brewery.
I’m not so sure about the growth. I reckon 10 pints a week is too high for a real ale drinker, they tend to go into a pub and sample what’s on offer. Four or five pints per week for a particular brand might be nearer the mark. In which case Bradford Breweries have to rely on an extra 3500 weekly drinkers being created to sustain their business. Sounds a touch ambitious, so it is more likely that their business plan intends to use the Council subsidies to undercut the existing breweries.

All’s fair in love and selling; but this does seem like an act of intense disloyalty by City Hall towards existing businesses who have been supporting Bradford for ages. The Labour Group should abandon Councillor Green's Producer City idea before it does any more damage.
[quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: 16,000 pints a week is a lot of beer in a crowded market. Assuming a real ale drinker consumes 10 pints a week, then this venture need to create 1600 new regular drinkers or, more likely, take market share from our existing craft breweries (Ilkley, Saltaire, Naylors, Wharfedale, etc) I’m all for competition, but in this case, Cllr. Green, desperate for anything that supports his stupid ‘Producer City’ scheme has handed out massive subsidies to the Bradford Brewery. This is unfair competition, and will make life very difficult for the existing breweries who have had to struggle without Council help. The Council should support existing businesses who have shown a commitment to Bradford, not kick them in the teeth.[/p][/quote]Loads of new breweries are continuing to open in Yorkshire and all over the country because the demand for real ale is growing fast, so I don't think there should be a concern about over capacity. But if Bradford Brewey dont produce beers of the right type and quality then they might fail, just like any other brewery.[/p][/quote]I’m not so sure about the growth. I reckon 10 pints a week is too high for a real ale drinker, they tend to go into a pub and sample what’s on offer. Four or five pints per week for a particular brand might be nearer the mark. In which case Bradford Breweries have to rely on an extra 3500 weekly drinkers being created to sustain their business. Sounds a touch ambitious, so it is more likely that their business plan intends to use the Council subsidies to undercut the existing breweries. All’s fair in love and selling; but this does seem like an act of intense disloyalty by City Hall towards existing businesses who have been supporting Bradford for ages. The Labour Group should abandon Councillor Green's Producer City idea before it does any more damage. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 1

3:25pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

alive and awake wrote:
Good idea and good luck. Alas you've chose the wrong location. Why town centre? and all the expense that goes with it. Out of town would have been a far better site.
Because there is a zone in the centre and the funding pays 50% of a refurb and equipment. Outside the zone you won't get it.
The funding was £35 million provided by the government for the state of the city centre. But Dave Green doesn't thank them for it when he's sounding off.
Basically they don't want embarrasing for when the Broadway shopping centre opens and if it wasn't for Meyer Bergen taking it on then there would still be a hole. Westfield are building it for them as they backed out.
This brewery project wouldn't be happening without the funding. Most other companies would have gone to Leeds.
Naylors make some great ales and l used to buy off them.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Good idea and good luck. Alas you've chose the wrong location. Why town centre? and all the expense that goes with it. Out of town would have been a far better site.[/p][/quote]Because there is a zone in the centre and the funding pays 50% of a refurb and equipment. Outside the zone you won't get it. The funding was £35 million provided by the government for the state of the city centre. But Dave Green doesn't thank them for it when he's sounding off. Basically they don't want embarrasing for when the Broadway shopping centre opens and if it wasn't for Meyer Bergen taking it on then there would still be a hole. Westfield are building it for them as they backed out. This brewery project wouldn't be happening without the funding. Most other companies would have gone to Leeds. Naylors make some great ales and l used to buy off them. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 1

10:01pm Thu 24 Jul 14

gobradford! says...

Without a doubt, this is great news for the city centre, however it came about. All Bradfordians ever do is p**s and moan about how bad it is in Bradford - good lord, with all our residents constantly plastering their negativity so blatantly across open forums, we should be lucky to get ANY businesses willing to invest in us, let alone something as good as this project! Think about bringing jobs to the city centre, and new skills, and the potential for expansion - not to mention catching the attention of other businesses & brands! The bigger brand names you'd find in Manchester, Leeds & other bigger cities won't even consider touching Bradford while we are all poundland & mobile phone shops, we desperately need fresh ideas to bring variety to our city, not everyone is content with sitting in an old boozer, or a tired & run down restaurant, drinking and eating the same offerings our city has churned out for years. Maybe it's not for everyone, but just because it's a concept you don't like doesn't mean it's not going to thrive and boost the city's brand portfolio. Look at the bigger picture.

Out of curiousity, why does everyone always compare Bradford & Leeds? They are two very different cities. Leeds is not the holy grail, it certainly has it's major flaws! As far as drinking establishments go, similar bars also exist in other cities, such as Manchester & Doncaster, they are certainly not exclusive to Leeds, give Bradford business owners a little more credit than that!

Personally, i love the direction that the top end of town is going - and i'll even be attending the party on North Parade on Saturday, to see what else is new up there!
Without a doubt, this is great news for the city centre, however it came about. All Bradfordians ever do is p**s and moan about how bad it is in Bradford - good lord, with all our residents constantly plastering their negativity so blatantly across open forums, we should be lucky to get ANY businesses willing to invest in us, let alone something as good as this project! Think about bringing jobs to the city centre, and new skills, and the potential for expansion - not to mention catching the attention of other businesses & brands! The bigger brand names you'd find in Manchester, Leeds & other bigger cities won't even consider touching Bradford while we are all poundland & mobile phone shops, we desperately need fresh ideas to bring variety to our city, not everyone is content with sitting in an old boozer, or a tired & run down restaurant, drinking and eating the same offerings our city has churned out for years. Maybe it's not for everyone, but just because it's a concept you don't like doesn't mean it's not going to thrive and boost the city's brand portfolio. Look at the bigger picture. Out of curiousity, why does everyone always compare Bradford & Leeds? They are two very different cities. Leeds is not the holy grail, it certainly has it's major flaws! As far as drinking establishments go, similar bars also exist in other cities, such as Manchester & Doncaster, they are certainly not exclusive to Leeds, give Bradford business owners a little more credit than that! Personally, i love the direction that the top end of town is going - and i'll even be attending the party on North Parade on Saturday, to see what else is new up there! gobradford!
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12:13am Sat 26 Jul 14

time for payback says...

do mr hallidays backers know what a mess he left behind in his other business in bingley
do mr hallidays backers know what a mess he left behind in his other business in bingley time for payback
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10:35am Sat 26 Jul 14

Solomon Grundy says...

I work in Leeds quite a bit and have drunk over there, and I find it a frankly soulless place full of offices and the kind of people who work in them.

Well done the folks behind this project, it will be a huge success.
I work in Leeds quite a bit and have drunk over there, and I find it a frankly soulless place full of offices and the kind of people who work in them. Well done the folks behind this project, it will be a huge success. Solomon Grundy
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