Shipley College plans for contemporary-style building get go-ahead despite Saltaire World Heritage Site protests

PLANS: An artist's impression of the new Shipley College building on Exhibition Road, Saltaire

PLANS: An artist's impression of the new Shipley College building on Exhibition Road, Saltaire

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HEATED objections from more than 100 residents have failed to stop plans for a new contemporary-style Shipley College building in the heart of Saltaire.

Amended designs for the two-storey teaching block, in the buffer zone of the World Heritage Site, were rubber-stamped at a meeting of the Keighley and Shipley Area Planning Panel at Shipley Town Hall yesterday morning.

The college will now be allowed to demolish four large greenhouses on its Exhibition Road site, currently used by its horticultural department, and replace them with a 'High Needs Vocational Centre', designed to cater for 75 students with learning or physical disabilities.

The Council had received 129 objections to the development, with many voicing concerns that the new eco-friendly building, complete with a sedum plant roof to aid bio-diversity, would not conform to the architectural style of the surrounding listed buildings.

Vanessa Pilny, a member of the Saltaire Preservation Society, told the meeting: "I think it would set a dangerous precedent, if you can build this 20 feet away from the World Heritage buffer zone, then how can you stop other modern buildings going up?

"People who live in the village are told they can't have certain doors or double-glazing, but over the road there are completely different design rules.

"It worries me that something could be passed despite so many objections."

But the architect behind the building's design, Allan Booth, said: "The proposed building contributes positively to the outstanding universal value of Saltaire.

"It is designed to add an informed dimension to its setting without competing with neighbouring heritage buildings.

"Our intention has been to create a modern building which respects its surroundings and minimises the effect on residents."

The college had worked with the Council's design team to revise the original plans for the building, and it was noted that "a great deal of care and attention had been taken to lessen its impact at street level."

The changes had also led to the project receiving the backing of English Heritage, who had initially expressed concerns over the development.

Nav Chohan, principal of Shipley College, told the meeting that £1.1million was currently being investing in the separate 1887 Exhibition Building and that funding for the new scheme was only in place until March next year.

"This will be an important facility for our most disadvantaged citizens, and it is clear there is a need for it," he said.

"The new building will help to secure the future of the college in an atmosphere that will protect our continued investment in the village."

Chairing the meeting, Councillor Doreen Lee (Lab, Keighley East), said the building reflected a new look for the Saltaire Conservation Area.

"This is the 21st century, and we have to get with it," she added.

Speaking following the decision to grant planning approval, Mr Chohan said: "We are delighted that we will shortly have a building that can complement what is already here in Saltaire."

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6:57am Thu 24 Jul 14

Albion. says...

Shipley college is a plague on Saltaire.
Shipley college is a plague on Saltaire. Albion.
  • Score: 37

7:43am Thu 24 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

If it's the 21st Century Doreen, why name and shame those with modern doors and windows?
Another example of the do as we say not as we do attitude of the council.
If it's the 21st Century Doreen, why name and shame those with modern doors and windows? Another example of the do as we say not as we do attitude of the council. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 36

7:43am Thu 24 Jul 14

BB&B!! says...

How this is a world heritage site that building will not fit in at all who they giving backhanders to for them to get the go ahead??
How this is a world heritage site that building will not fit in at all who they giving backhanders to for them to get the go ahead?? BB&B!!
  • Score: 26

8:09am Thu 24 Jul 14

Joedavid says...

And they worry about peoples house doors!
Shame on you Bradford Council.
And they worry about peoples house doors! Shame on you Bradford Council. Joedavid
  • Score: 35

8:29am Thu 24 Jul 14

denislamenis says...

Bradford council decide what they are going to do, then they pretend to listen to peoples views just to make it look like they care and then they do whatever they like, always have, always will. shame on Bradford council.
Bradford council decide what they are going to do, then they pretend to listen to peoples views just to make it look like they care and then they do whatever they like, always have, always will. shame on Bradford council. denislamenis
  • Score: 33

8:30am Thu 24 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

It's not even in the World heritage site.
It's not even in the World heritage site. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -24

9:23am Thu 24 Jul 14

BB&B!! says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
It's not even in the World heritage site.
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[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: It's not even in the World heritage site.[/p][/quote]http://www.saltairev illage.info/saltaire _history_0013_Saltai re_street_names_Exhi bition_Rd.html BB&B!!
  • Score: 12

9:43am Thu 24 Jul 14

freespeech says...

This is terrible news, and one that will now have it's legacy in Saltaires' history. Those that sanctioned this carbuncle should be named and shamed, may be name the site after those that ignored public and local opinion. The council have destroyed Bradford City centre, now they are making the same mistakes further afield.. They will never learn, and never take notice of those people that have to live there, and put up with the users of the college and all the associated problems. Those that rubber stamped this should hang their heads in shame.
This is terrible news, and one that will now have it's legacy in Saltaires' history. Those that sanctioned this carbuncle should be named and shamed, may be name the site after those that ignored public and local opinion. The council have destroyed Bradford City centre, now they are making the same mistakes further afield.. They will never learn, and never take notice of those people that have to live there, and put up with the users of the college and all the associated problems. Those that rubber stamped this should hang their heads in shame. freespeech
  • Score: 20

12:25pm Thu 24 Jul 14

pjbull says...

No Mr Booth, it does not contribute positively to the outstanding universal value of Saltaire. If it were to, it would be built in the same stone and with the same design to the other magnificent buildings in Saltaire. Is it not the case that as a unique World Heritage site, the integrity of the building of Saltaire Village ought to be preserved?
No Mr Booth, it does not contribute positively to the outstanding universal value of Saltaire. If it were to, it would be built in the same stone and with the same design to the other magnificent buildings in Saltaire. Is it not the case that as a unique World Heritage site, the integrity of the building of Saltaire Village ought to be preserved? pjbull
  • Score: 15

12:49pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Which councillors approved it, or was it another behind closed doors ballot where no one will put their name to it.
Which councillors approved it, or was it another behind closed doors ballot where no one will put their name to it. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 13

1:07pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Bull110 says...

Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings.

Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!!
Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings. Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!! Bull110
  • Score: 0

1:17pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Joedavid says...

Bull110 wrote:
Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings.

Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!!
Nothing wrong with the college and what goes on inside it is this modern outside look that's the problem in this historic looking area.
[quote][p][bold]Bull110[/bold] wrote: Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings. Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!![/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with the college and what goes on inside it is this modern outside look that's the problem in this historic looking area. Joedavid
  • Score: 12

1:22pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Albion. says...

Bull110 wrote:
Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings.

Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!!
There certainly are some students who do well, there are others who seem to be there because nothing else can be found for them to do, they often hang around obstructing pavements, shoplifting and dealing with the "support crews" who park in strategic places to sell their wares, you even get police attempts to sort conflicting situations at times. A purpose built college in a more centrally accessible location would be better and would allow certain buildings in Saltaire to be used for things of interest to tourists and visitors.
[quote][p][bold]Bull110[/bold] wrote: Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings. Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!![/p][/quote]There certainly are some students who do well, there are others who seem to be there because nothing else can be found for them to do, they often hang around obstructing pavements, shoplifting and dealing with the "support crews" who park in strategic places to sell their wares, you even get police attempts to sort conflicting situations at times. A purpose built college in a more centrally accessible location would be better and would allow certain buildings in Saltaire to be used for things of interest to tourists and visitors. Albion.
  • Score: 9

1:23pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Bull110 says...

Joedavid wrote:
Bull110 wrote:
Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings.

Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!!
Nothing wrong with the college and what goes on inside it is this modern outside look that's the problem in this historic looking area.
Point taken - in these days of enlightened architecture should they not have been able to design a great looking building to sit alongside the wonderful architecture of Saltaire - by the way my mother and Grandmother are born and bred from Saltaire so I love the place!!
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bull110[/bold] wrote: Why is Shipley College seen as a scourge on Saltaire? It uses many of the original buildings for its courses offering a college experience to those who do not want to go to a large college such as Bradford or Uni or can't (SEN students) and is doing the upkeep on these buildings. Is it that these students should not study at a college in a great location and maybe we should keep them to Great Horton and nowhere else - yes I do have a son at Shipley who has positively thrived since being there!![/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with the college and what goes on inside it is this modern outside look that's the problem in this historic looking area.[/p][/quote]Point taken - in these days of enlightened architecture should they not have been able to design a great looking building to sit alongside the wonderful architecture of Saltaire - by the way my mother and Grandmother are born and bred from Saltaire so I love the place!! Bull110
  • Score: 6

1:52pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Class_War says...

I am unable to view the artists impression but I trust the building will be constructed of Yorkshire Stone, with Timber doors & windows, stained-glass, in-keeping with the local environ? If not it shouldn't be built.
I am unable to view the artists impression but I trust the building will be constructed of Yorkshire Stone, with Timber doors & windows, stained-glass, in-keeping with the local environ? If not it shouldn't be built. Class_War
  • Score: 8

2:10pm Thu 24 Jul 14

basil fawlty says...

"Chairing the meeting, Councillor Doreen Lee (Lab, Keighley East), said the building reflected a new look for the Saltaire Conservation Area.
"This is the 21st century, and we have to get with it," she added. "

Its not about being the 21st century, its about putting up an appropriately designed building next to the Conservation Area, which it appears that this building is not.
Bradford Council planning Department - FAILED AGAIN! This useless lot are continuing to allow the Bradford area to be ruined.
"Chairing the meeting, Councillor Doreen Lee (Lab, Keighley East), said the building reflected a new look for the Saltaire Conservation Area. "This is the 21st century, and we have to get with it," she added. " Its not about being the 21st century, its about putting up an appropriately designed building next to the Conservation Area, which it appears that this building is not. Bradford Council planning Department - FAILED AGAIN! This useless lot are continuing to allow the Bradford area to be ruined. basil fawlty
  • Score: 14

2:18pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Out of site says...

basil fawlty wrote:
"Chairing the meeting, Councillor Doreen Lee (Lab, Keighley East), said the building reflected a new look for the Saltaire Conservation Area.
"This is the 21st century, and we have to get with it," she added. "

Its not about being the 21st century, its about putting up an appropriately designed building next to the Conservation Area, which it appears that this building is not.
Bradford Council planning Department - FAILED AGAIN! This useless lot are continuing to allow the Bradford area to be ruined.
Bradford is ruined.
[quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: "Chairing the meeting, Councillor Doreen Lee (Lab, Keighley East), said the building reflected a new look for the Saltaire Conservation Area. "This is the 21st century, and we have to get with it," she added. " Its not about being the 21st century, its about putting up an appropriately designed building next to the Conservation Area, which it appears that this building is not. Bradford Council planning Department - FAILED AGAIN! This useless lot are continuing to allow the Bradford area to be ruined.[/p][/quote]Bradford is ruined. Out of site
  • Score: 12

2:34pm Thu 24 Jul 14

sorrow&anger says...

Since the days of Wardley the planning incompetents at City Hall have set about systematically destroying Bradford. Lacking aesthetic sensibility and a long term vision, their only concern has been short term political and financial expediency.

This decision confirms that nothing has changed, what is left of our heritage will be trashed along with our rapidly diminishing areas of countryside.

Until there is root and branch reform of the planning department and the appointment of a visionary head of Regeneration, Bradford will continue to become a bigger dump with every day that passes.
Since the days of Wardley the planning incompetents at City Hall have set about systematically destroying Bradford. Lacking aesthetic sensibility and a long term vision, their only concern has been short term political and financial expediency. This decision confirms that nothing has changed, what is left of our heritage will be trashed along with our rapidly diminishing areas of countryside. Until there is root and branch reform of the planning department and the appointment of a visionary head of Regeneration, Bradford will continue to become a bigger dump with every day that passes. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 22

5:13pm Thu 24 Jul 14

fd666666 says...

It's a plan to lose the World Heritage status so that they can put the bypass through.
It's a plan to lose the World Heritage status so that they can put the bypass through. fd666666
  • Score: 5

5:16pm Thu 24 Jul 14

fd666666 says...

They're about to rip up all the trees and not replace them too.
They're about to rip up all the trees and not replace them too. fd666666
  • Score: 4

5:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Grumpygirl says...

Bradford all over. City Hall has no sense of the past and no vision of the future. They just do what's immediately convenient.
Bradford all over. City Hall has no sense of the past and no vision of the future. They just do what's immediately convenient. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 9

6:34pm Thu 24 Jul 14

More of the same.. says...

I am really disappointed by the snide actions of the planning officer Joanna Tansley. Also the conservation officer Mr Ackroyd who supported the application, as he was too 'spineless' to oppose it.

Shipley college: brings only more second chance students to Saltaire: to smoke and deal weed on the back streets of a wonderful village. The design will remain horrific. The wheels of progress, on this occasion turn backwards, 'cheers' BDMC.

Over one hundred people in the local area objected to the building: because they know what a blight Shipley College is on the area, not to mention; the ill fit of the horrific modern construct against; Classic Italian Architecture.

Anyone who really believes this is an advantage to the village, I can only label them; 'Cretinistic'.
I am really disappointed by the snide actions of the planning officer Joanna Tansley. Also the conservation officer Mr Ackroyd who supported the application, as he was too 'spineless' to oppose it. Shipley college: brings only more second chance students to Saltaire: to smoke and deal weed on the back streets of a wonderful village. The design will remain horrific. The wheels of progress, on this occasion turn backwards, 'cheers' BDMC. Over one hundred people in the local area objected to the building: because they know what a blight Shipley College is on the area, not to mention; the ill fit of the horrific modern construct against; Classic Italian Architecture. Anyone who really believes this is an advantage to the village, I can only label them; 'Cretinistic'. More of the same..
  • Score: 13

7:43pm Thu 24 Jul 14

basil fawlty says...

In my opinion the views of the local people about the application are less important than the overall public view as Saltaire is a World Heritage Site and local interests should be considered but not given too much weight.
The same logic applies to the felling of the trees. Locals may prefer it but looki.g at the bigger picture the removal wil seriously harm the attractiveness of the area. Both plans are a big mistake.
In my opinion the views of the local people about the application are less important than the overall public view as Saltaire is a World Heritage Site and local interests should be considered but not given too much weight. The same logic applies to the felling of the trees. Locals may prefer it but looki.g at the bigger picture the removal wil seriously harm the attractiveness of the area. Both plans are a big mistake. basil fawlty
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Thu 24 Jul 14

chrissyJ@bradford says...

By the use of the word 'contemporary', I take that to mean a cheap, quick fix !
Is there nothing else the people of Saltaire or even Bradford can do to get this blight on the beautiful village stopped ? does the council ultimately have the last word, given that it is a world heritage site ?
By the use of the word 'contemporary', I take that to mean a cheap, quick fix ! Is there nothing else the people of Saltaire or even Bradford can do to get this blight on the beautiful village stopped ? does the council ultimately have the last word, given that it is a world heritage site ? chrissyJ@bradford
  • Score: 7

10:26am Fri 25 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

chrissyJ@bradford wrote:
By the use of the word 'contemporary', I take that to mean a cheap, quick fix !
Is there nothing else the people of Saltaire or even Bradford can do to get this blight on the beautiful village stopped ? does the council ultimately have the last word, given that it is a world heritage site ?
Why would contemporary mean that?

I actually can't see a problem with the positioning of modern architecture, with old. It works far better than trying to recreate the older styles.

They could build it out of bricks made of excrement, and it would still not be the worst looking building in that area!
[quote][p][bold]chrissyJ@bradford[/bold] wrote: By the use of the word 'contemporary', I take that to mean a cheap, quick fix ! Is there nothing else the people of Saltaire or even Bradford can do to get this blight on the beautiful village stopped ? does the council ultimately have the last word, given that it is a world heritage site ?[/p][/quote]Why would contemporary mean that? I actually can't see a problem with the positioning of modern architecture, with old. It works far better than trying to recreate the older styles. They could build it out of bricks made of excrement, and it would still not be the worst looking building in that area! Bone_idle18
  • Score: -3

11:22am Fri 25 Jul 14

Outraged Of Saltaire says...

I continue to be OUTRAGED! Mr Chohan, I do hope you have read all the above comments and those from previous articles. A bitter sweet victory for you. Lets hope the works do not start earlier than 7:30am unlike the current window replacement programme where this week they start just after 7am, clanging away with scaffolding, workmen shouting across the site! This is a residential area with young babies, children and many retired people living in the immediate vicinity, thank you Mr Chohan, you have made our lives a misery in your pursuit to build your empire, you spoke (rather poorly I must say) at the panel meeting claiming its the only bit of land you own, but you don't own it, you lease it! When challenged at the first residents consultation (by consultation I use the term loosely, it was more of a presentation) you were asked what would you do in the event your application is not successful, you said you had considered options. One option was a stand alone site, somewhere near Shipley town centre, you said this wouldn't work, you added that you had also considered moving your entire operations out of Saltaire Village, but went on to say "but we wouldn't want to do that, we're all about Saltaire" how would relocation have been achieved? How would you have found the money to up sticks a relocate? An empty threat Mr Chohan? No doubt the Salt Foundation welcomed your application as they would never have imagined their portfolio could have been expanded upon, a shiny new building, a green open space lost, forever. Shame on you, shame on architects Rank, Booths and Snide, shame on all those at the council who rubber stamped this application, shame on you all.
I continue to be OUTRAGED! Mr Chohan, I do hope you have read all the above comments and those from previous articles. A bitter sweet victory for you. Lets hope the works do not start earlier than 7:30am unlike the current window replacement programme where this week they start just after 7am, clanging away with scaffolding, workmen shouting across the site! This is a residential area with young babies, children and many retired people living in the immediate vicinity, thank you Mr Chohan, you have made our lives a misery in your pursuit to build your empire, you spoke (rather poorly I must say) at the panel meeting claiming its the only bit of land you own, but you don't own it, you lease it! When challenged at the first residents consultation (by consultation I use the term loosely, it was more of a presentation) you were asked what would you do in the event your application is not successful, you said you had considered options. One option was a stand alone site, somewhere near Shipley town centre, you said this wouldn't work, you added that you had also considered moving your entire operations out of Saltaire Village, but went on to say "but we wouldn't want to do that, we're all about Saltaire" how would relocation have been achieved? How would you have found the money to up sticks a relocate? An empty threat Mr Chohan? No doubt the Salt Foundation welcomed your application as they would never have imagined their portfolio could have been expanded upon, a shiny new building, a green open space lost, forever. Shame on you, shame on architects Rank, Booths and Snide, shame on all those at the council who rubber stamped this application, shame on you all. Outraged Of Saltaire
  • Score: 8

2:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Tyke69 says...

Albion. wrote:
Shipley college is a plague on Saltaire.
Agree 100% (and I am a former student of this very poor college). We had to buy our own text books because the library only had old editions that were no longer relevant. The computer facilities were very outdated. You couldn't work quietly in the library because of the noise. Groups of students hang around the village getting up to all sorts. I've lived in Saltaire for 20 years and would be quite happy to see the back of the college, it should merge with Bradford College or Leeds City College and move out of the village. The buildings could then be used for tourism. A proper museum & visitor centre in the Salt Building would be a great start!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: Shipley college is a plague on Saltaire.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% (and I am a former student of this very poor college). We had to buy our own text books because the library only had old editions that were no longer relevant. The computer facilities were very outdated. You couldn't work quietly in the library because of the noise. Groups of students hang around the village getting up to all sorts. I've lived in Saltaire for 20 years and would be quite happy to see the back of the college, it should merge with Bradford College or Leeds City College and move out of the village. The buildings could then be used for tourism. A proper museum & visitor centre in the Salt Building would be a great start! Tyke69
  • Score: 5

5:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saltaire Bantam says...

If there are 129 objections but it still goes ahead then what is the point of having to seek planning permission in the first place. Sounds more like a communist dictatorship to me. At least they should build it in the style of a terrace house like the surrounding buildings. And why can't Shipley college go somewhere else, like Shipley, they are not welcome in Saltaire.
If there are 129 objections but it still goes ahead then what is the point of having to seek planning permission in the first place. Sounds more like a communist dictatorship to me. At least they should build it in the style of a terrace house like the surrounding buildings. And why can't Shipley college go somewhere else, like Shipley, they are not welcome in Saltaire. Saltaire Bantam
  • Score: 8

1:41pm Sat 26 Jul 14

fd666666 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
If it's the 21st Century Doreen, why name and shame those with modern doors and windows?
Another example of the do as we say not as we do attitude of the council.
If you want to get with the 21st Century, it's illogical to do it in a World Heritage area
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: If it's the 21st Century Doreen, why name and shame those with modern doors and windows? Another example of the do as we say not as we do attitude of the council.[/p][/quote]If you want to get with the 21st Century, it's illogical to do it in a World Heritage area fd666666
  • Score: 6

4:45am Sat 2 Aug 14

More of the same.. says...

The new windows which have gone into The Exhibition Building are as horrific as the New Build. This: is not progress.
The new windows which have gone into The Exhibition Building are as horrific as the New Build. This: is not progress. More of the same..
  • Score: 3

9:29am Sat 9 Aug 14

Outraged Of Saltaire says...

So there is a page on face book called the Saltaire Preservation Society, it was established especially for those who oppose this new build, with over 200 people 'liking' the page, with updates and photos, check it out and add comments
So there is a page on face book called the Saltaire Preservation Society, it was established especially for those who oppose this new build, with over 200 people 'liking' the page, with updates and photos, check it out and add comments Outraged Of Saltaire
  • Score: 1

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