Watchdog criticises staff at Bradford secondary school for failing to protect pupils from extremism

First published in News

A BRADFORD secondary school "fails to give necessary attention to potential risks posed by extremism," according to a report published today.

Ofsted inspectors visited Carlton Bolling College last month over concerns on how the secular state school was being governed, and the watchdog has now released its findings - which see the school downgraded from "good" at its last inspection to "inadequate."

It says "leadership is hindered by some ill-judged decisions" and that a third of staff the inspectors spoke to said it was not well managed.

The school in Undercliffe has a large majority of Muslim students, but also a minority of non-Muslim and Eastern European pupils.

The report states: "Students and staff are not educated through the curriculum or training well enough to understand, respond to or calculate potential risks associated with extreme or radical.

It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam".

Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.

It calls for an "immediate review of governance" to allow the school to improve.

Bradford Council has asked the Department for Education to allow it to replace the governing body with an Interim Executive Board.

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9:51am Fri 18 Jul 14

ctm says...

"It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam"".

The governors must be removed immediately in my view. They will never change and their kind are a serious threat to the stability of this City. So well done to Bradford Council for asking that DoE replace them, but the questions have to be asked; in how many more schools is the same scenario playing out, and why has it taken so long for this to be exposed when parents have known for years?
"It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam"". The governors must be removed immediately in my view. They will never change and their kind are a serious threat to the stability of this City. So well done to Bradford Council for asking that DoE replace them, but the questions have to be asked; in how many more schools is the same scenario playing out, and why has it taken so long for this to be exposed when parents have known for years? ctm
  • Score: 66

10:16am Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

ctm wrote:
"It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam"".

The governors must be removed immediately in my view. They will never change and their kind are a serious threat to the stability of this City. So well done to Bradford Council for asking that DoE replace them, but the questions have to be asked; in how many more schools is the same scenario playing out, and why has it taken so long for this to be exposed when parents have known for years?
People like that are not just a threat to the stability of the city, but the country as a whole.

Also, racism in the school - a bit of a blow for people who claim racism only exist in QUOTE "EDL/BNP hell holes". most right minded people know racism works both ways.

The time of pandering to the minorities for fear of upsetting them, or reprisals, should end. Every case should be judged on it's merits, and ethnicity should not play a factor in it.
[quote][p][bold]ctm[/bold] wrote: "It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam"". The governors must be removed immediately in my view. They will never change and their kind are a serious threat to the stability of this City. So well done to Bradford Council for asking that DoE replace them, but the questions have to be asked; in how many more schools is the same scenario playing out, and why has it taken so long for this to be exposed when parents have known for years?[/p][/quote]People like that are not just a threat to the stability of the city, but the country as a whole. Also, racism in the school - a bit of a blow for people who claim racism only exist in QUOTE "EDL/BNP hell holes". most right minded people know racism works both ways. The time of pandering to the minorities for fear of upsetting them, or reprisals, should end. Every case should be judged on it's merits, and ethnicity should not play a factor in it. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 54

10:17am Fri 18 Jul 14

Albion. says...

This reminds of those people trying to stop their home being flooded with a breadboard and two sandbags (it'll only stop it for a short time).
This reminds of those people trying to stop their home being flooded with a breadboard and two sandbags (it'll only stop it for a short time). Albion.
  • Score: 31

10:21am Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Albion. wrote:
This reminds of those people trying to stop their home being flooded with a breadboard and two sandbags (it'll only stop it for a short time).
Indeed. I think we're p1ssing in the wind with this.
We've allowed it to take root and I think there's little we can do to stop it. What a mess.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: This reminds of those people trying to stop their home being flooded with a breadboard and two sandbags (it'll only stop it for a short time).[/p][/quote]Indeed. I think we're p1ssing in the wind with this. We've allowed it to take root and I think there's little we can do to stop it. What a mess. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 37

10:52am Fri 18 Jul 14

trevorwilkie says...

I believe this is happening throughout Bradford, I was going to say that maybe it's time to stop teaching religion in schools and leave it to the churches and mosques in the city to teach religion but that would make people more insular, so the understanding of religion must be tought in schools to try and make children more tolerant of each others religion, with all the people that are heading out to places like Syria, tolerance is obviously not being tought at the moment.
I believe this is happening throughout Bradford, I was going to say that maybe it's time to stop teaching religion in schools and leave it to the churches and mosques in the city to teach religion but that would make people more insular, so the understanding of religion must be tought in schools to try and make children more tolerant of each others religion, with all the people that are heading out to places like Syria, tolerance is obviously not being tought at the moment. trevorwilkie
  • Score: 31

12:06pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
[quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible? Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 36

12:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested.

I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city!
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested. I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 39

12:21pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested.

I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city!
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested. I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 15

12:28pm Fri 18 Jul 14

SinnerSaint says...

Apparently, the lessons on effigy making, consulate burning and firing machine guns into the air while wearing masks are first class!
Apparently, the lessons on effigy making, consulate burning and firing machine guns into the air while wearing masks are first class! SinnerSaint
  • Score: 25

12:35pm Fri 18 Jul 14

BD16 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand BD16
  • Score: 22

12:48pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ?

And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools? Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -26

12:49pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested.

I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city!
Of course racism comes from all quarters. But the majority is of it is directed towards Blacks, Asians, and Muslims.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested. I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city![/p][/quote]Of course racism comes from all quarters. But the majority is of it is directed towards Blacks, Asians, and Muslims. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

FaisalKhan says...

Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection. FaisalKhan
  • Score: -17

12:59pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence.

I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence. I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 25

1:02pm Fri 18 Jul 14

BD16 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ?

And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
I've just read the story again, it makes no reference to the Trojan Horse letter, just a badly run school with some people pushing an agenda.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?[/p][/quote]I've just read the story again, it makes no reference to the Trojan Horse letter, just a badly run school with some people pushing an agenda. BD16
  • Score: 16

1:03pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested.

I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city!
Of course racism comes from all quarters. But the majority is of it is directed towards Blacks, Asians, and Muslims.
Muslims are always the victims and are never racist ever! They don't persecute followers of other religions (or even different sects of their own) anywhere ever.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested. I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city![/p][/quote]Of course racism comes from all quarters. But the majority is of it is directed towards Blacks, Asians, and Muslims.[/p][/quote]Muslims are always the victims and are never racist ever! They don't persecute followers of other religions (or even different sects of their own) anywhere ever. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 43

1:07pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
Apparently, the lessons on effigy making, consulate burning and firing machine guns into the air while wearing masks are first class!
Don't forget chemistry where they learn to make 'honour acid'.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: Apparently, the lessons on effigy making, consulate burning and firing machine guns into the air while wearing masks are first class![/p][/quote]Don't forget chemistry where they learn to make 'honour acid'. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 27

1:14pm Fri 18 Jul 14

FaisalKhan says...

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  • Score: 3

1:17pm Fri 18 Jul 14

tinytoonster says...

FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
i can smell something,
bull droppings.....
[quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]i can smell something, bull droppings..... tinytoonster
  • Score: 4

1:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

tinytoonster says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested.

I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city!
Of course racism comes from all quarters. But the majority is of it is directed towards Blacks, Asians, and Muslims.
absolute rubbish!
lost count of the comments i have heard to non asians both in english and by hand gestures.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]If it was the other way round you'd be the first calling for the EDL/BNP scum to be arrested. I bet you don't believe Asians can be racist! Even though it's an every day occurrence in out fair city![/p][/quote]Of course racism comes from all quarters. But the majority is of it is directed towards Blacks, Asians, and Muslims.[/p][/quote]absolute rubbish! lost count of the comments i have heard to non asians both in english and by hand gestures. tinytoonster
  • Score: 16

1:43pm Fri 18 Jul 14

FinlandStation says...

The problem is that any devout Muslim believes that he has an allah given obligation to convert the world to Islam. As we heard recently from Syria, “we will not stop until all the world is Muslim or bows down to Islam”.

It is therefore inevitable that any school with a sizeable Muslim population will be under pressure to become a monoculture. Bradford has to face this situation, however politically inconvenient. The only way to combat this pressure is to bus children around so that Muslims remain in a small enough minority to be controlled. All faith schools should be banned as should the wearing of religious trinkets such as crosses, turbans and headscarves.
The problem is that any devout Muslim believes that he has an allah given obligation to convert the world to Islam. As we heard recently from Syria, “we will not stop until all the world is Muslim or bows down to Islam”. It is therefore inevitable that any school with a sizeable Muslim population will be under pressure to become a monoculture. Bradford has to face this situation, however politically inconvenient. The only way to combat this pressure is to bus children around so that Muslims remain in a small enough minority to be controlled. All faith schools should be banned as should the wearing of religious trinkets such as crosses, turbans and headscarves. FinlandStation
  • Score: 18

2:04pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Religion in schools should be taught from the angle of history alone. The characters, times, places and events. No scripture or indoctrination from any religion should be allowed, there are places people can choose to attend if this is what they want but the short, precious learning time should not be given over to anything other than a brief coverage of how individual religions came about and who the main players were.
Religion in schools should be taught from the angle of history alone. The characters, times, places and events. No scripture or indoctrination from any religion should be allowed, there are places people can choose to attend if this is what they want but the short, precious learning time should not be given over to anything other than a brief coverage of how individual religions came about and who the main players were. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 10

2:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
the only needs a school needs to meet are the needs of children, regardless of faith, ethnicity or anything else.

Trying to meet the needs of 95% Muslim children is actually meeting the demands of their Parents!

Same with the Catholics and CofE etc. This is why religion and education need to be separated completely, we just need a government with a spine who is prepared to do it.
[quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]the only needs a school needs to meet are the needs of children, regardless of faith, ethnicity or anything else. Trying to meet the needs of 95% Muslim children is actually meeting the demands of their Parents! Same with the Catholics and CofE etc. This is why religion and education need to be separated completely, we just need a government with a spine who is prepared to do it. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 29

2:14pm Fri 18 Jul 14

piltdownman says...

You wouldn’t mind so much if Islam was a benign religion, but, driven by the fairy story that the koran is the actual word of allah, they are intolerant of other religions, believe in conversion by force, denigrate women and have replaced justice with barbarism.

There can be no doubt that schools in Birmingham and probably Bradford have suffered a co-ordinated, deliberate and sustained attack to introduce an intolerant and aggressive Muslim ethos. This will turn them into breeding grounds for trouble makers.

There is clearly a sustained and co-ordinated agenda to impose upon children the segregationist attitudes and practices of hardline and politicised Islam.

Cllr. Berry has failed to support, or engage with, these trouble schools, probably because he could not afford to upset the Community. However left to their own devices these schools will turn out inward-looking, intolerant children, products of a monculture that will leave them totally unprepared for life in modern Britain.

The sooner Bradford acts to close down all muslim majority schools the better. Islam is not good for us.
You wouldn’t mind so much if Islam was a benign religion, but, driven by the fairy story that the koran is the actual word of allah, they are intolerant of other religions, believe in conversion by force, denigrate women and have replaced justice with barbarism. There can be no doubt that schools in Birmingham and probably Bradford have suffered a co-ordinated, deliberate and sustained attack to introduce an intolerant and aggressive Muslim ethos. This will turn them into breeding grounds for trouble makers. There is clearly a sustained and co-ordinated agenda to impose upon children the segregationist attitudes and practices of hardline and politicised Islam. Cllr. Berry has failed to support, or engage with, these trouble schools, probably because he could not afford to upset the Community. However left to their own devices these schools will turn out inward-looking, intolerant children, products of a monculture that will leave them totally unprepared for life in modern Britain. The sooner Bradford acts to close down all muslim majority schools the better. Islam is not good for us. piltdownman
  • Score: 22

2:32pm Fri 18 Jul 14

daisy25 says...

FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.
[quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school. daisy25
  • Score: -3

2:36pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Apollo says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.
Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
Other than this report and the ones concerning Birmingham Schools?

Indeed - no evidence if you will not open your eyes and your mind to the truth that these religious nutjobs planned over many years to take over our schools.

The only concrete here is the block between both of your ears.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?[/p][/quote]Other than this report and the ones concerning Birmingham Schools? Indeed - no evidence if you will not open your eyes and your mind to the truth that these religious nutjobs planned over many years to take over our schools. The only concrete here is the block between both of your ears. Apollo
  • Score: 6

2:39pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence.

I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.
Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it?

Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names?

Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence. I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.[/p][/quote]Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it? Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names? Pathetic. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -11

2:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

daisy25 wrote:
FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.
I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT!

In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.
[quote][p][bold]daisy25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.[/p][/quote]I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT! In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -9

2:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Andy2010 says...

Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda? Andy2010
  • Score: 17

2:52pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence.

I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.
Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it?

Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names?

Pathetic.
so you're saying racism is purely name calling?

I'm sure you'll be reminded on that when you start accusing all and sundry of being racist EDL/BNP scum.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence. I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.[/p][/quote]Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it? Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names? Pathetic.[/p][/quote]so you're saying racism is purely name calling? I'm sure you'll be reminded on that when you start accusing all and sundry of being racist EDL/BNP scum. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 9

2:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
He's certainly hypocritical enough to be a Muslim!

I'm still waiting for him to lead a protest in City Square against the atrocities carried out by ISIS against the people of Iraq and Syria!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?[/p][/quote]He's certainly hypocritical enough to be a Muslim! I'm still waiting for him to lead a protest in City Square against the atrocities carried out by ISIS against the people of Iraq and Syria! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 13

2:56pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence.

I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.
Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it?

Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names?

Pathetic.
What are you talking about?

Your doing your usual trick that you do when you can't come back with a decent answer - changing the subject entirely or trying to twist what I say.

Also I like how you've not disagreed with me about the deep rooted racism and intolerance that the Muslim faith promotes.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence. I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.[/p][/quote]Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it? Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names? Pathetic.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about? Your doing your usual trick that you do when you can't come back with a decent answer - changing the subject entirely or trying to twist what I say. Also I like how you've not disagreed with me about the deep rooted racism and intolerance that the Muslim faith promotes. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 20

2:59pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
He's certainly hypocritical enough to be a Muslim!

I'm still waiting for him to lead a protest in City Square against the atrocities carried out by ISIS against the people of Iraq and Syria!
Or the kidnapping of the Nigerian girls by Boko Haram, or the mudering of Christians in Pakistan etc
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?[/p][/quote]He's certainly hypocritical enough to be a Muslim! I'm still waiting for him to lead a protest in City Square against the atrocities carried out by ISIS against the people of Iraq and Syria![/p][/quote]Or the kidnapping of the Nigerian girls by Boko Haram, or the mudering of Christians in Pakistan etc Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 14

3:06pm Fri 18 Jul 14

999 number of the beast says...

The T&A are bonkers! They don't open up stories for comment(usually when plod lie out of their arse) but they have for this. Lets see how many of the comments get close to the wind before they shut it down.
The T&A are bonkers! They don't open up stories for comment(usually when plod lie out of their arse) but they have for this. Lets see how many of the comments get close to the wind before they shut it down. 999 number of the beast
  • Score: 24

3:08pm Fri 18 Jul 14

baildongreen says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ?

And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?[/p][/quote]The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says. baildongreen
  • Score: 8

3:25pm Fri 18 Jul 14

gouldengirl says...

In Indonesia numpty Muslims are throwing scientists in jail because they don’t believe in allah. How is Bradford going to attract high tech industry with Muslims on the Council? These guys will keep us in poverty in the cause of a deluded and simplistic faith.

It seems to me that Muslims want to turn back society to the dark ages because they don’t want to alter the koran. It would be better for them, and certainly for us, if they accepted modern society and the findings of science and reinterpreted the koran accordingly.

When dealing with finite beings such as humans God has to speak in metaphors because our minds aren’t big enough to comprehend His truth. So His received word is always in need of reinterpretation as we understand more of His universes.
In Indonesia numpty Muslims are throwing scientists in jail because they don’t believe in allah. How is Bradford going to attract high tech industry with Muslims on the Council? These guys will keep us in poverty in the cause of a deluded and simplistic faith. It seems to me that Muslims want to turn back society to the dark ages because they don’t want to alter the koran. It would be better for them, and certainly for us, if they accepted modern society and the findings of science and reinterpreted the koran accordingly. When dealing with finite beings such as humans God has to speak in metaphors because our minds aren’t big enough to comprehend His truth. So His received word is always in need of reinterpretation as we understand more of His universes. gouldengirl
  • Score: 7

3:32pm Fri 18 Jul 14

pcmanners says...

All schools should be run as profit making companies in a competitive market. Parents would then be free to choose the school that meets their needs. Parents, as owners, have an absolute right to bring up their children in any way that they wish.
All schools should be run as profit making companies in a competitive market. Parents would then be free to choose the school that meets their needs. Parents, as owners, have an absolute right to bring up their children in any way that they wish. pcmanners
  • Score: -3

3:33pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence.

I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.
Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it?

Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names?

Pathetic.
What are you talking about?

Your doing your usual trick that you do when you can't come back with a decent answer - changing the subject entirely or trying to twist what I say.

Also I like how you've not disagreed with me about the deep rooted racism and intolerance that the Muslim faith promotes.
The Islamic Faith abhors racism.

Can you prove to us the religion is racist ?
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence. I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.[/p][/quote]Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it? Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names? Pathetic.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about? Your doing your usual trick that you do when you can't come back with a decent answer - changing the subject entirely or trying to twist what I say. Also I like how you've not disagreed with me about the deep rooted racism and intolerance that the Muslim faith promotes.[/p][/quote]The Islamic Faith abhors racism. Can you prove to us the religion is racist ? Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -7

3:34pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

baildongreen wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ?

And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.
http://www.theguardi
an.com/uk-news/2014/
jul/18/birmingham-co
uncil-disastrous-fai
lure-islamism-school
s-trojan-horse-lette
r

I'm sure Hoff will be along to tell us all that vile EDL/BNP Chav scum wrote the report or some other wild conspiracy theory that paints Muslims as helpless victims.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?[/p][/quote]The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.[/p][/quote]http://www.theguardi an.com/uk-news/2014/ jul/18/birmingham-co uncil-disastrous-fai lure-islamism-school s-trojan-horse-lette r I'm sure Hoff will be along to tell us all that vile EDL/BNP Chav scum wrote the report or some other wild conspiracy theory that paints Muslims as helpless victims. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 13

3:34pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?[/p][/quote]He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -2

3:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ?

And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.
http://www.theguardi

an.com/uk-news/2014/

jul/18/birmingham-co

uncil-disastrous-fai

lure-islamism-school

s-trojan-horse-lette

r

I'm sure Hoff will be along to tell us all that vile EDL/BNP Chav scum wrote the report or some other wild conspiracy theory that paints Muslims as helpless victims.
Don't get your knickers in a twist, FB. The fact is, what's highlighted in the report refers to an extreme minority.

It's not going to effect the majority a single bit.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?[/p][/quote]The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.[/p][/quote]http://www.theguardi an.com/uk-news/2014/ jul/18/birmingham-co uncil-disastrous-fai lure-islamism-school s-trojan-horse-lette r I'm sure Hoff will be along to tell us all that vile EDL/BNP Chav scum wrote the report or some other wild conspiracy theory that paints Muslims as helpless victims.[/p][/quote]Don't get your knickers in a twist, FB. The fact is, what's highlighted in the report refers to an extreme minority. It's not going to effect the majority a single bit. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -21

3:42pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.
Is defending your citizens against rocket attacks a crime? If Hamas keep trying to kill Israeli civilians they shouldn't be surprised when Israel hits back with targeted attacks. That the Palestinians like to use women and children as human shields is not the fault of Israel.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?[/p][/quote]He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.[/p][/quote]Is defending your citizens against rocket attacks a crime? If Hamas keep trying to kill Israeli civilians they shouldn't be surprised when Israel hits back with targeted attacks. That the Palestinians like to use women and children as human shields is not the fault of Israel. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 15

3:49pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand
You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ?

And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?
The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.
http://www.theguardi


an.com/uk-news/2014/


jul/18/birmingham-co


uncil-disastrous-fai


lure-islamism-school


s-trojan-horse-lette


r

I'm sure Hoff will be along to tell us all that vile EDL/BNP Chav scum wrote the report or some other wild conspiracy theory that paints Muslims as helpless victims.
Don't get your knickers in a twist, FB. The fact is, what's highlighted in the report refers to an extreme minority.

It's not going to effect the majority a single bit.
Nice reply! In the space of an afternoon you've gone from 'Theres no proof of it. It's all fake and made up by people with racist agendas' to 'Well it is happening a bit, but not much'

Priceless
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]That's right Hoffmeister. Ignore all the bits you don't like and focus on the tiny little crumb of comfort you can take from whole sorry story. #headinsand[/p][/quote]You do realise the whole Trojan horse letter was a fake ? And that nothing concrete has been produced in relation to mass extremism in our schools?[/p][/quote]The letter might have been a fake, but the situation it highlighted was, and is, real. The Clarke Report is due out tomorrow. Let's see what that says.[/p][/quote]http://www.theguardi an.com/uk-news/2014/ jul/18/birmingham-co uncil-disastrous-fai lure-islamism-school s-trojan-horse-lette r I'm sure Hoff will be along to tell us all that vile EDL/BNP Chav scum wrote the report or some other wild conspiracy theory that paints Muslims as helpless victims.[/p][/quote]Don't get your knickers in a twist, FB. The fact is, what's highlighted in the report refers to an extreme minority. It's not going to effect the majority a single bit.[/p][/quote]Nice reply! In the space of an afternoon you've gone from 'Theres no proof of it. It's all fake and made up by people with racist agendas' to 'Well it is happening a bit, but not much' Priceless Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 16

3:50pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.
Crimes that pale into insignificance when compared to ISIS atrocities!

If Muslims were so bothered about innocent Muslims being killed, then protesting against these Jihadist idiots would be time far better spent. there's been more death in Iraq due to muslim terrorists than there have for decades in Palestine!
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?[/p][/quote]He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.[/p][/quote]Crimes that pale into insignificance when compared to ISIS atrocities! If Muslims were so bothered about innocent Muslims being killed, then protesting against these Jihadist idiots would be time far better spent. there's been more death in Iraq due to muslim terrorists than there have for decades in Palestine! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 15

3:54pm Fri 18 Jul 14

BD16 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist.


Where's the evidence for it ?

Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?
What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence.

I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.
Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it?

Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names?

Pathetic.
What are you talking about?

Your doing your usual trick that you do when you can't come back with a decent answer - changing the subject entirely or trying to twist what I say.

Also I like how you've not disagreed with me about the deep rooted racism and intolerance that the Muslim faith promotes.
The Islamic Faith abhors racism.

Can you prove to us the religion is racist ?
Perhaps not the religion but you certainly are. Why do you always highlight the actions of Israel completely ignoring all the other nutters in the world? Could it be because they are Jews?

You don't give a monkeys about anybody that isn't a muslim and if it's not racist it's a very close cousin.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote]Inspectors were told that some Eastern European students at the school had been called names they regarded as racist. [/quote] Where's the evidence for it ? Are we going to arrest anyone and everyone who we *think* may have said something 'orrible?[/p][/quote]What evidence do you want? It was playground name calling, there isn't going to be video evidence. I know it's hard for you to admit you belong to the most racist and intolerant organisation in the world- Islam.[/p][/quote]Lol ! - so playground name-calling is something completely new is it? Tell me; did you go to the Police when you heard of kids calling other kids names? Pathetic.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about? Your doing your usual trick that you do when you can't come back with a decent answer - changing the subject entirely or trying to twist what I say. Also I like how you've not disagreed with me about the deep rooted racism and intolerance that the Muslim faith promotes.[/p][/quote]The Islamic Faith abhors racism. Can you prove to us the religion is racist ?[/p][/quote]Perhaps not the religion but you certainly are. Why do you always highlight the actions of Israel completely ignoring all the other nutters in the world? Could it be because they are Jews? You don't give a monkeys about anybody that isn't a muslim and if it's not racist it's a very close cousin. BD16
  • Score: 22

3:57pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he

Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?
He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.
Crimes that pale into insignificance when compared to ISIS atrocities!

If Muslims were so bothered about innocent Muslims being killed, then protesting against these Jihadist idiots would be time far better spent. there's been more death in Iraq due to muslim terrorists than there have for decades in Palestine!
This is the worst possible post for the Hoffster to respond to as it contains the two things he dislikes the most; facts and criticism of Islam.
Lets see how he responds......
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Galloway gone strangely quiet on this issue hasnt he Not fit in with his IslamMclovin agenda?[/p][/quote]He's a bit busy exposing the crimes of the vile Israeli terrorist scum.[/p][/quote]Crimes that pale into insignificance when compared to ISIS atrocities! If Muslims were so bothered about innocent Muslims being killed, then protesting against these Jihadist idiots would be time far better spent. there's been more death in Iraq due to muslim terrorists than there have for decades in Palestine![/p][/quote]This is the worst possible post for the Hoffster to respond to as it contains the two things he dislikes the most; facts and criticism of Islam. Lets see how he responds...... Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 19

3:58pm Fri 18 Jul 14

ChanningCross says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
ctm wrote:
"It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam"".

The governors must be removed immediately in my view. They will never change and their kind are a serious threat to the stability of this City. So well done to Bradford Council for asking that DoE replace them, but the questions have to be asked; in how many more schools is the same scenario playing out, and why has it taken so long for this to be exposed when parents have known for years?
People like that are not just a threat to the stability of the city, but the country as a whole.

Also, racism in the school - a bit of a blow for people who claim racism only exist in QUOTE "EDL/BNP hell holes". most right minded people know racism works both ways.

The time of pandering to the minorities for fear of upsetting them, or reprisals, should end. Every case should be judged on it's merits, and ethnicity should not play a factor in it.
That is a unfair thing to say. Bradford is a truly wonderful and harmonious multicultural city and our Councillors work very hard at making everybody, especially Muslims, feel at home. The Council is to be congratulated as one of the first in the country to incorporate Sharia practices into its governance.

Also Councillor Hinchcliffe, as the Culture portfolio holder, has worked harder than anybody at turning Bradford into an Muslim friendly city. And I’m sure that she has plans to make Bradford even more of an Islamic city. The Council respects and admires all the good things that the Islamic Community has done for Bradford. As Councillor Hinchcliffe has said, the rest of us should be very grateful for their contribution.

I agree with Faisal above. I am sure that the report is a biased attempt by central government and OFSTED to sow discord. Councillor Berry is an astute and experienced man and he would have acted immediately if there was anything actually wrong with the school.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctm[/bold] wrote: "It adds that some governors have exerted pressure to restrict the curriculum and pushed for "restricting religious education courses to the study of Islam"". The governors must be removed immediately in my view. They will never change and their kind are a serious threat to the stability of this City. So well done to Bradford Council for asking that DoE replace them, but the questions have to be asked; in how many more schools is the same scenario playing out, and why has it taken so long for this to be exposed when parents have known for years?[/p][/quote]People like that are not just a threat to the stability of the city, but the country as a whole. Also, racism in the school - a bit of a blow for people who claim racism only exist in QUOTE "EDL/BNP hell holes". most right minded people know racism works both ways. The time of pandering to the minorities for fear of upsetting them, or reprisals, should end. Every case should be judged on it's merits, and ethnicity should not play a factor in it.[/p][/quote]That is a unfair thing to say. Bradford is a truly wonderful and harmonious multicultural city and our Councillors work very hard at making everybody, especially Muslims, feel at home. The Council is to be congratulated as one of the first in the country to incorporate Sharia practices into its governance. Also Councillor Hinchcliffe, as the Culture portfolio holder, has worked harder than anybody at turning Bradford into an Muslim friendly city. And I’m sure that she has plans to make Bradford even more of an Islamic city. The Council respects and admires all the good things that the Islamic Community has done for Bradford. As Councillor Hinchcliffe has said, the rest of us should be very grateful for their contribution. I agree with Faisal above. I am sure that the report is a biased attempt by central government and OFSTED to sow discord. Councillor Berry is an astute and experienced man and he would have acted immediately if there was anything actually wrong with the school. ChanningCross
  • Score: 9

4:04pm Fri 18 Jul 14

daisy25 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
daisy25 wrote:
FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.
I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT!

In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.
Was this the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the school last year and gave it a good and was the the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the RE department 2 years ago and also gave it a good. One must wonder what has changed since then, perhaps fake Trojan horse letters and media hype.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daisy25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.[/p][/quote]I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT! In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.[/p][/quote]Was this the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the school last year and gave it a good and was the the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the RE department 2 years ago and also gave it a good. One must wonder what has changed since then, perhaps fake Trojan horse letters and media hype. daisy25
  • Score: 2

4:29pm Fri 18 Jul 14

PhilBD10 says...

I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed.

Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party.

As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors.

It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”.

The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably.

Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are.

The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam.

Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America.

Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.
I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed. Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party. As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors. It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”. The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably. Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are. The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam. Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America. Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism. PhilBD10
  • Score: 13

5:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Simply the truth. says...

The standards and education improves at a muslim predominantly school and the Trojan horse affects that school now. What a coincedince? It's another witch hunt like there was regarding the halal food.

Can't really expect to hear unbiased news in t&a!
The standards and education improves at a muslim predominantly school and the Trojan horse affects that school now. What a coincedince? It's another witch hunt like there was regarding the halal food. Can't really expect to hear unbiased news in t&a! Simply the truth.
  • Score: -16

5:13pm Fri 18 Jul 14

daisy25 says...

PhilBD10 wrote:
I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed.

Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party.

As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors.

It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”.

The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably.

Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are.

The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam.

Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America.

Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.
Well said and from someone who knows the system and has actually taught at the school. My partner has worked at the school for over 10 years and like you feels the report just does not add up!!
[quote][p][bold]PhilBD10[/bold] wrote: I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed. Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party. As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors. It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”. The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably. Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are. The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam. Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America. Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.[/p][/quote]Well said and from someone who knows the system and has actually taught at the school. My partner has worked at the school for over 10 years and like you feels the report just does not add up!! daisy25
  • Score: -4

5:22pm Fri 18 Jul 14

S Begum says...

PhilBD10
Omg! You are actually using your intellect, researching, investigating and coming to YOUR own conclusions instead of just allowing the media and government to TELL YOU what to think an believe.

Fair play to you Phil for not allowing yourself to be taken for an idiot and seeing through all of the political agenda.

Just wish the majority on here would show a little more intellect in their comments.
PhilBD10 Omg! You are actually using your intellect, researching, investigating and coming to YOUR own conclusions instead of just allowing the media and government to TELL YOU what to think an believe. Fair play to you Phil for not allowing yourself to be taken for an idiot and seeing through all of the political agenda. Just wish the majority on here would show a little more intellect in their comments. S Begum
  • Score: 7

5:23pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Figo1982 says...

PhilBD10 wrote:
I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed.

Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party.

As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors.

It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”.

The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably.

Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are.

The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam.

Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America.

Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.
This article and some of the comments on here are a disgrace! I cannot believe that people failing to see what is going on here!

I've lived in the area and I know for a fact that Calton Bolling has improved so much over the last few years. There isn't even a hint of extremism associated with this school, and if there was then why hasnt it ever been mentioned by previous staff or headteachers.

Some of you need to open your eyes and do your research on Goves and you will find out who he is and what exactly his agenda is. Don't believe everything you read in the media!
[quote][p][bold]PhilBD10[/bold] wrote: I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed. Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party. As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors. It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”. The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably. Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are. The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam. Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America. Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.[/p][/quote]This article and some of the comments on here are a disgrace! I cannot believe that people failing to see what is going on here! I've lived in the area and I know for a fact that Calton Bolling has improved so much over the last few years. There isn't even a hint of extremism associated with this school, and if there was then why hasnt it ever been mentioned by previous staff or headteachers. Some of you need to open your eyes and do your research on Goves and you will find out who he is and what exactly his agenda is. Don't believe everything you read in the media! Figo1982
  • Score: 6

9:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

bradford88 says...

Keep all religion out of school and let the kids go to mosque or church etc after school.
Keep all religion out of school and let the kids go to mosque or church etc after school. bradford88
  • Score: 1

10:26pm Fri 18 Jul 14

idf fanclub says...

Ahhh... Robin of Loxley.

It's Johnny the M in his 10,000th incarnation. The "vile Israel scum" gives you away every time.

Still spreading his extremist vision of an Islamic Caliphate Barfdord.

Still in denial.

Still hating with a passion all the usual targets. Israel, Jews, EDL, BNP, USA. Poor white people. Residents of Queensbury. On and on.

All evidence against Islamic terrorism and extremism is faked. From 9/11 right up to the present subject of anti Western religious loonies operating in little old Bradford. Ain't that right Johnny? All a plot to do down the righteous.

And as for all the other usual suspects who share your vision of Caliphate Barfdord. Keep on believing kids.
Ahhh... Robin of Loxley. It's Johnny the M in his 10,000th incarnation. The "vile Israel scum" gives you away every time. Still spreading his extremist vision of an Islamic Caliphate Barfdord. Still in denial. Still hating with a passion all the usual targets. Israel, Jews, EDL, BNP, USA. Poor white people. Residents of Queensbury. On and on. All evidence against Islamic terrorism and extremism is faked. From 9/11 right up to the present subject of anti Western religious loonies operating in little old Bradford. Ain't that right Johnny? All a plot to do down the righteous. And as for all the other usual suspects who share your vision of Caliphate Barfdord. Keep on believing kids. idf fanclub
  • Score: 19

11:41pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

How many people are going to invent names to come on here and claim it's all lies? Wow!
Don't forget we're talking about manipulative people, getting on the board of governors and systematically removing head teachers and teachers who are not prepared to pander to they Islamic doctrine.

You might fool the third generation county yokels, but not us.
How many people are going to invent names to come on here and claim it's all lies? Wow! Don't forget we're talking about manipulative people, getting on the board of governors and systematically removing head teachers and teachers who are not prepared to pander to they Islamic doctrine. You might fool the third generation county yokels, but not us. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 4

11:48pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

daisy25 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
daisy25 wrote:
FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.
I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT!

In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.
Was this the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the school last year and gave it a good and was the the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the RE department 2 years ago and also gave it a good. One must wonder what has changed since then, perhaps fake Trojan horse letters and media hype.
A year is a long time. Plus, issues that may have been skirted over before are more more thoroughly scrutinised.

Call yourself what you want, Daisy, but we can all see you for what you are.
[quote][p][bold]daisy25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daisy25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.[/p][/quote]I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT! In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.[/p][/quote]Was this the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the school last year and gave it a good and was the the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the RE department 2 years ago and also gave it a good. One must wonder what has changed since then, perhaps fake Trojan horse letters and media hype.[/p][/quote]A year is a long time. Plus, issues that may have been skirted over before are more more thoroughly scrutinised. Call yourself what you want, Daisy, but we can all see you for what you are. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 5

11:54pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

PhilBD10 wrote:
I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed.

Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party.

As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors.

It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”.

The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably.

Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are.

The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam.

Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America.

Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.
Using the turn off phrase you have shows you up for the fraud you are. There's more chance of me being called Mohammed than your name being Phil.

FFS... This is like catching fish with dynamite. I pity the kids in any school governed by the people you are so clumsily trying to defend. Although I suspect you may actually be one of the inept governors yourself.
[quote][p][bold]PhilBD10[/bold] wrote: I am a retired teacher that had worked mainly in inner city Bradford schools including CB (Carlton Bolling) for over 30 years. I have just read the Ofsted report into this school and I have to admit it’s narrative is an absolute disgrace, for a school that I am aware has been making significant improvements as described by a recent inspection only a few months ago, the sequence of events just don't add up . So what has gone wrong in such a short period of time? As the governors, staff and procedures have not changed how can it be that in a matter of weeks the Ofsted view has changed so dramatically? Ofsted, however, has a bit of explaining to do. If there is a real issue of Islamic extremism being promoted in Bradford schools, why was this not picked up earlier? Bradford LEA has its own appointed governors as well as a clerk, and by the way its head teacher is white British. Surely if all these failures were blatantly rampant and a culture of racism prevailed and Islam was the dominant religion then there have been massive failures by Bradford LEA. But off course they weren't aware because no such culture ever existed. Unfortunately this ofsted report into CB is designed to gratify Gove and his neo-con associates in Govt, and has simply sought out to establish the neo-con narrative of “Islamist extremism” as espoused by some in the Tory Party. As a result of this neo-con infiltration the Department for Education and Ofsted have been heavily compromised, which at least explains why Ofsted has been behaving so unethically. Following the publication and subsequent debate over the Trojan Horse in Birmingham schools, not only has Ofsted compromised its independence but also its credibility. It has helped establish a de-facto-dual inspection framework; one for schools with large cohort of Muslim pupils and the other for remaining schools. It has further reinforced the image of Muslims as suspect communities by undermining current and future Muslim school governors. It is no surprise that Gove has turned the whole Trojan Horse affair into a campaign for “British values” in schools, a new version, for those with long memories, of Norman Tebbit’s infamous “cricket test” for Asians, who could only prove they were really worthy of being British by supporting “our cricket team”. The Trojan Horse saga is another example of political opportunism for Gove to impose his ideology on schools. He tried it first with his personal re-write of the History curriculum to focus entirely on chronological British History from the Viking raids up to the election of Margaret Thatcher. He was only stopped after a huge outcry from practically every historian and History teacher in the land. Gove is now completely ignoring Citizenship, a national curriculum subject – which already provides opportunity for learning about democracy and other areas of life – ready to impose his own version of ‘Britishness’. What might that be I wonder? Could it simply be Toryism? Neo-Conservatism? Probably. Gove is also using this as an opportunity to bring in on the spot checks, and to force schools to teach “Britishness” although this is as yet seemingly undefined. Education policy is a mess – yes, local communities can run schools to reflect their local needs and issues, as long as they are middle class and white, otherwise they will be deemed as failing and the governors will be replaced by “professional” governors, whatever they are. The so-called ‘Trojan Horse’ document is not, as the media speculate, a ‘hoax’, ie, a simple crude trick or joke. Rather, it is being used to destabilise governing bodies in Muslim majority schools in Britain by galvanising Ofsted into snap inspections that would find these governing bodies unfit for governance, caricaturing them as driven by ideology rather than student needs. In its intended consequences it is not too dissimilar to that of the Zinoviev letter which led to the downfall of the first Labour government in the 1924 by galvanising public opinion against the spectre of socialism and communism. Today, just change that to Islam. Islamic extremism, conservatism, segregation, are all emotive terms and methods designed to play on people’s fears and prejudices, tapping into a vein of Islamophobic sentiment that is never far from the surface, eliciting caution, fear and a horrible doubt that affects Muslim men and women in all walks of life in this country. They are reminiscent of witch hunts in the Middle Ages or McCarthyism in post-war America. Neo-cons, neo-con-sympathisers and outright Islam-haters have been rallied into attack the British Muslim Minority. Government institutions are being used and abused for political purposes to pursue a dangerous political agenda. There are MPs, thinkers and academics who know this is happening. Indeed they have suffered through the foul play of the neo-cons. The time is nigh for them, and the broader British community, to stand up against one of the greatest threats to Britain: neo-conservatism.[/p][/quote]Using the turn off phrase you have shows you up for the fraud you are. There's more chance of me being called Mohammed than your name being Phil. FFS... This is like catching fish with dynamite. I pity the kids in any school governed by the people you are so clumsily trying to defend. Although I suspect you may actually be one of the inept governors yourself. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 6

12:12am Sat 19 Jul 14

S Begum says...

Funny how people believe ordinary citizens have the resources and skills to carry out this "Trojan horse" plot yet the same people believe the people with the real powers, resource and skills aren't capable of creating this hoax scenario.
Funny how people believe ordinary citizens have the resources and skills to carry out this "Trojan horse" plot yet the same people believe the people with the real powers, resource and skills aren't capable of creating this hoax scenario. S Begum
  • Score: 2

6:23am Sat 19 Jul 14

Albion. says...

bradford88 wrote:
Keep all religion out of school and let the kids go to mosque or church etc after school.
Let... .. . Not make.
[quote][p][bold]bradford88[/bold] wrote: Keep all religion out of school and let the kids go to mosque or church etc after school.[/p][/quote]Let... .. . Not make. Albion.
  • Score: 4

6:30am Sat 19 Jul 14

Albion. says...

FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
Oh dear, look what's happened now!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-lee
ds-28368032
[quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, look what's happened now! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-lee ds-28368032 Albion.
  • Score: 0

8:21am Sat 19 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

S Begum wrote:
Funny how people believe ordinary citizens have the resources and skills to carry out this "Trojan horse" plot yet the same people believe the people with the real powers, resource and skills aren't capable of creating this hoax scenario.
Unbelievable!

It's 'normal' citizens (I use that word loosly) like these who have kept the Asian community segregated in Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]S Begum[/bold] wrote: Funny how people believe ordinary citizens have the resources and skills to carry out this "Trojan horse" plot yet the same people believe the people with the real powers, resource and skills aren't capable of creating this hoax scenario.[/p][/quote]Unbelievable! It's 'normal' citizens (I use that word loosly) like these who have kept the Asian community segregated in Bradford. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 4

8:56am Sat 19 Jul 14

daisy25 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
daisy25 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
daisy25 wrote:
FaisalKhan wrote:
Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.
No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.
I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT!

In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.
Was this the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the school last year and gave it a good and was the the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the RE department 2 years ago and also gave it a good. One must wonder what has changed since then, perhaps fake Trojan horse letters and media hype.
A year is a long time. Plus, issues that may have been skirted over before are more more thoroughly scrutinised.

Call yourself what you want, Daisy, but we can all see you for what you are.
And what is that Bone??? Oh sorry just because I'm not one of those 'Extremist Muslims' how could I possible disagree with this report..... Well I think for myself and don't just read one report and make my mind up.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daisy25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daisy25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FaisalKhan[/bold] wrote: Sadly the Ofted report does not reflect remotely what is actually happening in the school but reflects vexatious historical baggage from the previous headteacher. An Ofsted inspection should be about what is happening now! It is shocking that the institutions that we trust can behave so badly. Shame on those repeating without checking out the facts first. The BBC radio article had 'real' students and 'real' Parents with 'real' evidence that contradict the ofsted report. The reality is that all Religions are taught, that Music has always been taught, the curriculum has been made wider, the lateness has improved tenfold, behavior the best its ever been, record attendance finally matched national, best ever results last 4 years, forecast for best ever results this year - still a way to go, meeting the needs of small but growing eastern European student population with recruitment of teachers with eastern European language skills, drama for new to English to access literacy, Roma week held a few weeks ago, as well as meeting the needs the the remaining 95% Muslim children. One of the few schools, working with the prevent team including a successful bid to the home office for a programme of work. There is so much more stuff in the Ofsted report that is so inaccurate and some relate to decision made by headteachers 10 years ago - not governors, the school has had numerous inspections since then,staff and students alike have been appalled at the conduct of Ofsted and will be more shocked at what they will see in today's report. It was an inquisition not an inspection. Paradoxically, Bradford Partnership were specifically asked to do an Ofsted style evaluation literally weeks before, they actually followed the Ofsted framework and they rated the school good. The difference was that Gove didn't have a hand in that inspection.[/p][/quote]No matter how much you tell them the truth Faisal people will only believe what they want to believe. This Ofsted report is disgusting because it is all made up of half truths. They have taken facts and twisted them to suit their own agenda. I really hope that the school and parents reject this report and stand up for their school.[/p][/quote]I think the key work, something you're both struggling to grasp, is INDEPENDENT! In case you're not quite clear on that, it means someone with no connection or vested interest in the school being inspected.[/p][/quote]Was this the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the school last year and gave it a good and was the the same INDEPENDENT Ofsted who inspected the RE department 2 years ago and also gave it a good. One must wonder what has changed since then, perhaps fake Trojan horse letters and media hype.[/p][/quote]A year is a long time. Plus, issues that may have been skirted over before are more more thoroughly scrutinised. Call yourself what you want, Daisy, but we can all see you for what you are.[/p][/quote]And what is that Bone??? Oh sorry just because I'm not one of those 'Extremist Muslims' how could I possible disagree with this report..... Well I think for myself and don't just read one report and make my mind up. daisy25
  • Score: 7

1:21pm Sat 19 Jul 14

LadWithCF says...

In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour.

The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not.

a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.
In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour. The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not. a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject. LadWithCF
  • Score: 17

1:28pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Albion. says...

LadWithCF wrote:
In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour.

The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not.

a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.
That would have been so much more impressive if you'd used a spell-checker.
[quote][p][bold]LadWithCF[/bold] wrote: In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour. The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not. a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.[/p][/quote]That would have been so much more impressive if you'd used a spell-checker. Albion.
  • Score: -4

2:47pm Sat 19 Jul 14

LadWithCF says...

Albion. wrote:
LadWithCF wrote:
In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour.

The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not.

a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.
That would have been so much more impressive if you'd used a spell-checker.
I am dyslexic and in truth i should have use a spell checker thank you very much to Point this out.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LadWithCF[/bold] wrote: In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour. The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not. a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.[/p][/quote]That would have been so much more impressive if you'd used a spell-checker.[/p][/quote]I am dyslexic and in truth i should have use a spell checker thank you very much to Point this out. LadWithCF
  • Score: 5

2:47pm Sat 19 Jul 14

LadWithCF says...

Albion. wrote:
LadWithCF wrote:
In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour.

The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not.

a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.
That would have been so much more impressive if you'd used a spell-checker.
I am dyslexic and in truth i should have use a spell checker thank you very much to Point this out.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LadWithCF[/bold] wrote: In general the secular sate schools should not have a Islamic ethos even when the majority of pupils follow that religion. because it does not comply with with the fact that this is the united kingdom and people are meant to learn the British standard of education. the education in Britain is meant to teach the 3 Rs Reading, Writing and Arithmatic. yet in bradford is seems highly feesable that there is sever incompetence in many standard on verbal english amongst secondary school pupils, college pupils and University students. the range goes from poor verbal communication or not using the correct grammar. or speaking a different language around people who are not there skin colour. The main issue itself is the fact the governers were pushing an islamic agenda within a public Secular schools. Also segrating pupils by gender. discouraging female pupils from doing extra ciricular actvities. gender specific trips that not right people should have an equal footing in education. Why does Islam feel the need to segrate by gender, dont say its just how it is because it is not. a lot of people are scared of tackling issues about Islam because people fear that they will be accused of islamaphobia/racisim which is a common theme. when people ask questions or state an opinion on a religion more often enough there is no answer or your told your being islamaphobic. in many place people are often intimidated or accused because they dont agree with an opinion on a particular subject.[/p][/quote]That would have been so much more impressive if you'd used a spell-checker.[/p][/quote]I am dyslexic and in truth i should have use a spell checker thank you very much to Point this out. LadWithCF
  • Score: 8

2:12pm Mon 21 Jul 14

basil fawlty says...

The reason why all this is coming out now is obviously because enough people in high up places have finally twigged as to what is going and are no longer preapred to allow things to be swept under the carpet as they are beginning to understand the potential serious consequencies of all this brain washing of youngsters.
The reason why all this is coming out now is obviously because enough people in high up places have finally twigged as to what is going and are no longer preapred to allow things to be swept under the carpet as they are beginning to understand the potential serious consequencies of all this brain washing of youngsters. basil fawlty
  • Score: 3

2:25pm Mon 21 Jul 14

SinnerSaint says...

basil fawlty wrote:
The reason why all this is coming out now is obviously because enough people in high up places have finally twigged as to what is going and are no longer preapred to allow things to be swept under the carpet as they are beginning to understand the potential serious consequencies of all this brain washing of youngsters.
Precisely! Why anyone with Pakistani heritage who has been born, raised and educated here should feel the need to travel to Syria and fight with extremists is insane.

There are hundreds if not thousands of these youngsters and they are a product of a system that educates children in extreme Islam and doesn't socialise them into the society in which they have been born - more often teaching them to hate it rather than embrace it.
[quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: The reason why all this is coming out now is obviously because enough people in high up places have finally twigged as to what is going and are no longer preapred to allow things to be swept under the carpet as they are beginning to understand the potential serious consequencies of all this brain washing of youngsters.[/p][/quote]Precisely! Why anyone with Pakistani heritage who has been born, raised and educated here should feel the need to travel to Syria and fight with extremists is insane. There are hundreds if not thousands of these youngsters and they are a product of a system that educates children in extreme Islam and doesn't socialise them into the society in which they have been born - more often teaching them to hate it rather than embrace it. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 6

1:45pm Tue 22 Jul 14

jjason1980 says...

Anyone teaching religion in any other way than an unfortunate historical event ought to be chastised and removed from contact with children. Religion is nothing more than what used to be witchcraft. Using it as a base for our children's learning is indirectly implying it has an evidential foundation, which is utter nonsense. It has no part left to play in our developed and evolved world, society and way of life. It is an account of how people interacted and their ( archaic) belief system, until we learned more. It is nothing more and our children deserve better. They deserve the truth.
Anyone teaching religion in any other way than an unfortunate historical event ought to be chastised and removed from contact with children. Religion is nothing more than what used to be witchcraft. Using it as a base for our children's learning is indirectly implying it has an evidential foundation, which is utter nonsense. It has no part left to play in our developed and evolved world, society and way of life. It is an account of how people interacted and their ( archaic) belief system, until we learned more. It is nothing more and our children deserve better. They deserve the truth. jjason1980
  • Score: 2

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