Fears over impact of new parking restrictions in Bingley

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Parking in Bingley Parking in Bingley

A PACKAGE of experimental new parking restrictions will be introduced across Bingley from today in an attempt to improve safety and ease congestion.

Bradford Council hopes the changes will make areas around schools safer, create some short-stay parking in the town centre and help residents reclaim their streets from commuter parking by introducing a residents' pass scheme.

But even before the trial has started, fears have been raised about the practicalities of the scheme.

One of the areas heavily affected by new double yellow lines are the streets around Trinity All Saints Primary School on Church Street, where the markings have already gone down.

Parent Julie Cooper has to travel more than a mile to take her children, aged four and six, to the school but says there will be no-where to park to drop them off in future.

"It is more than a mile to the school, so I have to drive. It isn't the closest school to us, but we didn't get our first choice of school and we are not the only ones," she said.

"There will be nowhere left for us to park even though we have no option but to drive and parents are concerned about it."

However, Councillor David Heseltine said the aim was to improve traffic management throughout the district.

Minor changes were being introduced around Myrtle Park Primary School and Priestthopre school, he said, to try to keep the access routes clear for those using footpaths.

In the town centre a redundant loading bay near the Post Office would become a 'stop and drop' parking area with a 20 minute maximum stay and streets near the railway station would get residents only parking.

"With it being an experimental order, it will be December when objections are looked at," he said.

"If something is wrong, it can be rolled back a little bit. We will either agree with the objections or agree with the officers, but we cannot pre-judge that."

Ros Dawson, who chairs Bingley Community Council Group, said: “So many people in Bingley and neighbouring communities have questions about the new parking restrictions and feel that Bradford Council hasn’t consulted properly about the new restrictions which will have a big impact across the town.

"Some of the proposals may be exactly what local residents want but there has been no time or opportunity for people to comment on the whole scheme.

" We’ll be writing to the ward district councillors, the city solicitor and the highways department to make them aware of what people are telling us and ask them to make the map and any supporting information available more widely, not just in the library.”

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11:51am Thu 3 Jul 14

pendlpoo says...

Well there are choices, like get up earlier and walk to school
Well there are choices, like get up earlier and walk to school pendlpoo
  • Score: 16

11:56am Thu 3 Jul 14

Count Jim Moriarty says...

Has to drive? Surely a 6 year old and a 4 year old are perfectly capable of walking a mile. Or is the mother just too **** lazy?
Has to drive? Surely a 6 year old and a 4 year old are perfectly capable of walking a mile. Or is the mother just too **** lazy? Count Jim Moriarty
  • Score: 22

12:06pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Albion. says...

I think the Main Street could be a big problem at times when the relief road is closed due to accidents. Everything gets diverted through the centre and there are a lot of obstacles to contend with, they seemed to plan it as if that would never happen.
I think the Main Street could be a big problem at times when the relief road is closed due to accidents. Everything gets diverted through the centre and there are a lot of obstacles to contend with, they seemed to plan it as if that would never happen. Albion.
  • Score: -1

12:25pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

yes, but what about Buck Lane?
yes, but what about Buck Lane? Bone_idle18
  • Score: -4

1:14pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

So an admission the roads are busy, people complaining they can't get in at local schools as they are to full, no one consulted.

On this basis how can they then suggest 400 extra houses in Micklewaite down the road is workable?
So an admission the roads are busy, people complaining they can't get in at local schools as they are to full, no one consulted. On this basis how can they then suggest 400 extra houses in Micklewaite down the road is workable? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 34

1:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

bingleybantam says...

Bradford Council really hate Bingley for some reason. 440 new houses, car parking restrictions & they killed off the market. Their war on the "middle classes" continues.
Bradford Council really hate Bingley for some reason. 440 new houses, car parking restrictions & they killed off the market. Their war on the "middle classes" continues. bingleybantam
  • Score: 32

1:57pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits.

P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.
Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits. P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Walruss says...

What congestion?
What congestion? Walruss
  • Score: 2

3:22pm Thu 3 Jul 14

carolyne74 says...

The new double yellows near Trinity are ridiculous, to be honest. I don't really get the woman moaning about going a mile, but many parents travel much further than one mile - my daughter has friends who come from up to eight miles away, not by choice. A lot of parents do work, so drop the children off on their way to work (in fairness, there are a lot of parents who do walk to the school, it's not surrounded by 4x4s driven by lazy parents from over the road). There's not enough parking along the main road to suggest parking all the cars there and walking (which is what I do), so where will these cars go?

The answer to the road problems around Trinity could have been addressed in a much simpler (and cheaper) manner - make it one-way between 7.30-9.30am, and 2.30-4.30pm. The only real reason I can see for double yellows along the whole length is to make some money, because people WILL risk parking on the double yellows. I'm not condoning it at all, but as a parent of a child at that school, I honestly can't see where else the number of cars used will go.

A lot of people will hopefully be coming to the Bingley Show in a few weeks, and I would think that many who've been before would probably park near Trinity as it was the only area local to the park without parking restrictions. I imagine many of those people won't come back next year! Bingley bonfire, Christmas fair, etc, same issue. The council are hardly giving off a "we welcome visitors" vibe!

Agree with some posts above too; how does this fear over congestion and parking gel with Bingley being able to facilitate 440 extra households?
The new double yellows near Trinity are ridiculous, to be honest. I don't really get the woman moaning about going a mile, but many parents travel much further than one mile - my daughter has friends who come from up to eight miles away, not by choice. A lot of parents do work, so drop the children off on their way to work (in fairness, there are a lot of parents who do walk to the school, it's not surrounded by 4x4s driven by lazy parents from over the road). There's not enough parking along the main road to suggest parking all the cars there and walking (which is what I do), so where will these cars go? The answer to the road problems around Trinity could have been addressed in a much simpler (and cheaper) manner - make it one-way between 7.30-9.30am, and 2.30-4.30pm. The only real reason I can see for double yellows along the whole length is to make some money, because people WILL risk parking on the double yellows. I'm not condoning it at all, but as a parent of a child at that school, I honestly can't see where else the number of cars used will go. A lot of people will hopefully be coming to the Bingley Show in a few weeks, and I would think that many who've been before would probably park near Trinity as it was the only area local to the park without parking restrictions. I imagine many of those people won't come back next year! Bingley bonfire, Christmas fair, etc, same issue. The council are hardly giving off a "we welcome visitors" vibe! Agree with some posts above too; how does this fear over congestion and parking gel with Bingley being able to facilitate 440 extra households? carolyne74
  • Score: 18

3:23pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

This is all about restrictions to increase the chances of being able to raise a parking fine. I know someone who lives in the area who got a ticket at 8am in the morning on a Sunday because his resident permit fell off his windscreen.

Are they really that desperate to fine people they are up and about at 8am on a Sunday morning?
This is all about restrictions to increase the chances of being able to raise a parking fine. I know someone who lives in the area who got a ticket at 8am in the morning on a Sunday because his resident permit fell off his windscreen. Are they really that desperate to fine people they are up and about at 8am on a Sunday morning? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 20

3:34pm Thu 3 Jul 14

carolyne74 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits.

P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.
The road around Trinity isn't a "danger area" though. Yes, it's a pain in the bum when people are parked at both sides and then you get a stand off between a parent going one way and another coming the opposite way but, as suggested in my other comment, this could have been solved by making it a one-way system during core hours. There's no sensible reason to actually make it double-yellowed. There was no safety issue, eg blocking emergency vehicles or anything like that. I estimate that parking for nearly 50 cars has simply vanished overnight. In fact, not even overnight; the lines weren't there on Monday morning, but had appeared by pick-up time with no warning! Luckily I arrived early enough to park on the main road like I usually do. But what did everyone do? Yes, they parked on them.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits. P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.[/p][/quote]The road around Trinity isn't a "danger area" though. Yes, it's a pain in the bum when people are parked at both sides and then you get a stand off between a parent going one way and another coming the opposite way but, as suggested in my other comment, this could have been solved by making it a one-way system during core hours. There's no sensible reason to actually make it double-yellowed. There was no safety issue, eg blocking emergency vehicles or anything like that. I estimate that parking for nearly 50 cars has simply vanished overnight. In fact, not even overnight; the lines weren't there on Monday morning, but had appeared by pick-up time with no warning! Luckily I arrived early enough to park on the main road like I usually do. But what did everyone do? Yes, they parked on them. carolyne74
  • Score: 9

4:41pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Bone_idle18 says...

carolyne74 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits.

P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.
The road around Trinity isn't a "danger area" though. Yes, it's a pain in the bum when people are parked at both sides and then you get a stand off between a parent going one way and another coming the opposite way but, as suggested in my other comment, this could have been solved by making it a one-way system during core hours. There's no sensible reason to actually make it double-yellowed. There was no safety issue, eg blocking emergency vehicles or anything like that. I estimate that parking for nearly 50 cars has simply vanished overnight. In fact, not even overnight; the lines weren't there on Monday morning, but had appeared by pick-up time with no warning! Luckily I arrived early enough to park on the main road like I usually do. But what did everyone do? Yes, they parked on them.
One way seems to make sense, but I'm not sure if they could enforce it at certain times, it would probably have to be permanent.

If it's anything like our local school, the stand-offs can cause traffic to back up onto some of the main roads.
[quote][p][bold]carolyne74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits. P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.[/p][/quote]The road around Trinity isn't a "danger area" though. Yes, it's a pain in the bum when people are parked at both sides and then you get a stand off between a parent going one way and another coming the opposite way but, as suggested in my other comment, this could have been solved by making it a one-way system during core hours. There's no sensible reason to actually make it double-yellowed. There was no safety issue, eg blocking emergency vehicles or anything like that. I estimate that parking for nearly 50 cars has simply vanished overnight. In fact, not even overnight; the lines weren't there on Monday morning, but had appeared by pick-up time with no warning! Luckily I arrived early enough to park on the main road like I usually do. But what did everyone do? Yes, they parked on them.[/p][/quote]One way seems to make sense, but I'm not sure if they could enforce it at certain times, it would probably have to be permanent. If it's anything like our local school, the stand-offs can cause traffic to back up onto some of the main roads. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 3

6:04pm Thu 3 Jul 14

tinytoonster says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So an admission the roads are busy, people complaining they can't get in at local schools as they are to full, no one consulted.

On this basis how can they then suggest 400 extra houses in Micklewaite down the road is workable?
400 houses, parking restrictions.
KER-CHING!!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So an admission the roads are busy, people complaining they can't get in at local schools as they are to full, no one consulted. On this basis how can they then suggest 400 extra houses in Micklewaite down the road is workable?[/p][/quote]400 houses, parking restrictions. KER-CHING!! tinytoonster
  • Score: 14

6:35pm Thu 3 Jul 14

knox615 says...

Can't the lady in the story park in the designated drop off zone, as marked out by the yellow zig-zags outside the school gates, to drop off her kids, as other parents do?
Can't the lady in the story park in the designated drop off zone, as marked out by the yellow zig-zags outside the school gates, to drop off her kids, as other parents do? knox615
  • Score: 0

6:50pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mixter says...

We live near a school, and i swear some of the idle barstewards who drive here have to park further away from their homes than they actually live. I know for sure, because my sister was one of them.

To be fair though, some of the distances will be a good five hundred yards.

Its no wonder the kids and parents are lard arses.
We live near a school, and i swear some of the idle barstewards who drive here have to park further away from their homes than they actually live. I know for sure, because my sister was one of them. To be fair though, some of the distances will be a good five hundred yards. Its no wonder the kids and parents are lard arses. Mixter
  • Score: 12

8:16pm Thu 3 Jul 14

linebacker2 says...

Local councils know full well that the National Govt is going to crackdown on their greedy scams - the council is now in process of gouging motorists as much as they can while they can still get away with it.
Local councils know full well that the National Govt is going to crackdown on their greedy scams - the council is now in process of gouging motorists as much as they can while they can still get away with it. linebacker2
  • Score: 8

9:19pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Simon4567 says...

"It is more than a mile to the school"

Is that all ? Seriously, a mile ? And that distance justifies the use of a car ?

No wonder Britain is rapidly becoming the obesity capital of Europe.

I've walked over ten miles today, don't feel any worse for wear and I could quite easily walk another ten, I have two dodgy knees and a false hip, if I can do it anyone else can do it.

I'm not anti-car I own two I just don't see the need to use them for short journeys.
"It is more than a mile to the school" Is that all ? Seriously, a mile ? And that distance justifies the use of a car ? No wonder Britain is rapidly becoming the obesity capital of Europe. I've walked over ten miles today, don't feel any worse for wear and I could quite easily walk another ten, I have two dodgy knees and a false hip, if I can do it anyone else can do it. I'm not anti-car I own two I just don't see the need to use them for short journeys. Simon4567
  • Score: 7

8:12pm Fri 4 Jul 14

GilsteadMan says...

Is there a place online where the new traffic regulations and the streets affected can be viewed?
Is there a place online where the new traffic regulations and the streets affected can be viewed? GilsteadMan
  • Score: 0

2:26pm Mon 7 Jul 14

carolyne74 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
carolyne74 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits.

P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.
The road around Trinity isn't a "danger area" though. Yes, it's a pain in the bum when people are parked at both sides and then you get a stand off between a parent going one way and another coming the opposite way but, as suggested in my other comment, this could have been solved by making it a one-way system during core hours. There's no sensible reason to actually make it double-yellowed. There was no safety issue, eg blocking emergency vehicles or anything like that. I estimate that parking for nearly 50 cars has simply vanished overnight. In fact, not even overnight; the lines weren't there on Monday morning, but had appeared by pick-up time with no warning! Luckily I arrived early enough to park on the main road like I usually do. But what did everyone do? Yes, they parked on them.
One way seems to make sense, but I'm not sure if they could enforce it at certain times, it would probably have to be permanent.

If it's anything like our local school, the stand-offs can cause traffic to back up onto some of the main roads.
That's what will happen now with less parking, making it harder for non-school traffic to get along Leonard Street. I don't think it would be a major inconvience to anyone to make it permanently one-way, to be honest. There are only houses along the top part of it, and it's not really miles to get from one end of the area to the other. I wouldn't mind if I lived on the street. Today's the first day I've picked up at normal kicking out time since last Monday, so we'll see what it's like!!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carolyne74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Seems like a sensible proposal to introduce double yellows around danger areas, such as schools, and also introduce residents parking permits. P.S That woman doesn't know how lucky she is, my kids have walked the 16 miles (barefoot, in snow and ice, without a coat), to school every day, after a hard nights graft down t'pit, since before they could walk. Never did them any harm.[/p][/quote]The road around Trinity isn't a "danger area" though. Yes, it's a pain in the bum when people are parked at both sides and then you get a stand off between a parent going one way and another coming the opposite way but, as suggested in my other comment, this could have been solved by making it a one-way system during core hours. There's no sensible reason to actually make it double-yellowed. There was no safety issue, eg blocking emergency vehicles or anything like that. I estimate that parking for nearly 50 cars has simply vanished overnight. In fact, not even overnight; the lines weren't there on Monday morning, but had appeared by pick-up time with no warning! Luckily I arrived early enough to park on the main road like I usually do. But what did everyone do? Yes, they parked on them.[/p][/quote]One way seems to make sense, but I'm not sure if they could enforce it at certain times, it would probably have to be permanent. If it's anything like our local school, the stand-offs can cause traffic to back up onto some of the main roads.[/p][/quote]That's what will happen now with less parking, making it harder for non-school traffic to get along Leonard Street. I don't think it would be a major inconvience to anyone to make it permanently one-way, to be honest. There are only houses along the top part of it, and it's not really miles to get from one end of the area to the other. I wouldn't mind if I lived on the street. Today's the first day I've picked up at normal kicking out time since last Monday, so we'll see what it's like!! carolyne74
  • Score: 1

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