Bradford College praised for good quality of teacher training

Dr Clive Opie

Dr Clive Opie

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BRADFORD'S education system has been given a much needed boost after government inspectors praised the way many of the city's teachers are trained.

Ofsted inspectors have announced their latest verdict on Bradford College's teacher training provision after an inspection last month - deeming what the college offers as "good."

The inspection result comes just days before a Bradford Council scrutiny committee will discuss the previous year's school results, which showed that in subjects like reading and maths, Bradford had become one of the lowest performing areas in the country.

One of the actions the council has pledged to take is to improve the standard of teaching in the district.

The inspectors looked at the school's secondary teacher training in the inspection, over four days in May, visiting nine of the college's partner schools in the process.

The report says praises "good quality training and very effective support from college tutors and school based colleagues that ensure trainees become good or better teachers."

It adds: "Trainees' experience of teaching pupils with varying abilities and from a diverse range of cultural backgrounds enables them to develop their skills in meeting the needs of different groups of learners, particularly disabled pupils, those with special educational needs and pupils who speak English as an additional language."

The College is also praised for recruiting trainees from "under represented" groups.

Employment rates after training are described as "above average" with the report saying: "Many gain posts in local schools, successfully meeting recruitment needs in Bradford."

Areas the college needs to improve are being clearer in what trainees must do to improve their progress and "improving the small minority of mentoring that is not of high quality."

Dr Clive Opie, Dean of McMillan School of Teaching, Health and Care said: “I am especially delighted that the ITT [Initial Teaching Training] staff have been clearly recognised for their outstanding efforts in building close and collaborative partnerships.

"I would also like to take this opportunity to praise those the College has worked with as I feel they deserve as much recognition for the outcome. Ofsted noted the College’s proactive engagement with regional teaching school alliances to develop additional routes into teaching to help meet regional recruitment needs further.

"We will continue to support the work of the authority in tackling underachievement in the city’s schools. A breakdown of last year's Key Stage Two results show that gaps between Bradford and the national average are rising in the basic skills of maths and reading.

“I am proud of all our staff who gave unstintingly to working together with its communities to create a better future for all.”

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2:46pm Sun 22 Jun 14

sorrow&anger says...

Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 18

3:32pm Sun 22 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.[/p][/quote]Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere. baildongreen
  • Score: 8

3:39pm Sun 22 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

baildongreen wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.
Hear hear. Why would ambitious teachers desirous of furthering their careers want to practice in Bradford? Even if the children want to learn, a lot of their parents don’t want them to.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.[/p][/quote]Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.[/p][/quote]Hear hear. Why would ambitious teachers desirous of furthering their careers want to practice in Bradford? Even if the children want to learn, a lot of their parents don’t want them to. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 18

3:42pm Sun 22 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.
I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated. izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 18

4:20pm Sun 22 Jun 14

bachtothefuture says...

The educational league tables tell their own story, Bradford needs good quality teachers and Bradford has a source of excellent teachers who have already taught in our schools. This should be good news, yet Cllr. Berry does nothing to incentivise them to stay.

This seems to be part of a bigger problem. The Council systematically fails to capitalise on the few things that Bradford has going for it, whether it’s the teachers, our Curry Capital status or the Festival.
The educational league tables tell their own story, Bradford needs good quality teachers and Bradford has a source of excellent teachers who have already taught in our schools. This should be good news, yet Cllr. Berry does nothing to incentivise them to stay. This seems to be part of a bigger problem. The Council systematically fails to capitalise on the few things that Bradford has going for it, whether it’s the teachers, our Curry Capital status or the Festival. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 20

4:27pm Sun 22 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
The educational league tables tell their own story, Bradford needs good quality teachers and Bradford has a source of excellent teachers who have already taught in our schools. This should be good news, yet Cllr. Berry does nothing to incentivise them to stay.

This seems to be part of a bigger problem. The Council systematically fails to capitalise on the few things that Bradford has going for it, whether it’s the teachers, our Curry Capital status or the Festival.
If Cllr Berry wasn’t such a socialist he would understand the workings of the market.

All he has to do to retain these excellent teachers is pay them more than anybody else. But that would upset the Unions and our Labour Council would rather kids had their life chances destroyed than upset the Unions.

After the next election there will be no Unions.
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: The educational league tables tell their own story, Bradford needs good quality teachers and Bradford has a source of excellent teachers who have already taught in our schools. This should be good news, yet Cllr. Berry does nothing to incentivise them to stay. This seems to be part of a bigger problem. The Council systematically fails to capitalise on the few things that Bradford has going for it, whether it’s the teachers, our Curry Capital status or the Festival.[/p][/quote]If Cllr Berry wasn’t such a socialist he would understand the workings of the market. All he has to do to retain these excellent teachers is pay them more than anybody else. But that would upset the Unions and our Labour Council would rather kids had their life chances destroyed than upset the Unions. After the next election there will be no Unions. pcmanners
  • Score: 15

4:33pm Sun 22 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

baildongreen wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.
So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.[/p][/quote]Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.[/p][/quote]So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not? linebacker2
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5:26pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Robin of Loxley says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.
Like this you mean :

*Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds*

http://www.express.c
o.uk/news/uk/483145/
Poor-white-children-
are-bottom-of-the-cl
****
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.[/p][/quote]Like this you mean : *Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds* http://www.express.c o.uk/news/uk/483145/ Poor-white-children- are-bottom-of-the-cl **** Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -5

5:27pm Sun 22 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

linebacker2 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.
So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?
I'm proud to say I spent all my working life away from Bradford. I returned when my parents died and as soon as I can sell the house I'm offski. I knew Bradford in the 60's and I know it now. Believe me it hasn't improved.

I know people work hard to make Bradford better, it's just that they always do the wrong things, or fail at doing the right things. Look around, there's not much to get excited about. The teachers are sensible, they vote with their feet, like I did.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.[/p][/quote]Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.[/p][/quote]So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?[/p][/quote]I'm proud to say I spent all my working life away from Bradford. I returned when my parents died and as soon as I can sell the house I'm offski. I knew Bradford in the 60's and I know it now. Believe me it hasn't improved. I know people work hard to make Bradford better, it's just that they always do the wrong things, or fail at doing the right things. Look around, there's not much to get excited about. The teachers are sensible, they vote with their feet, like I did. baildongreen
  • Score: 10

5:33pm Sun 22 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
izzystillbreathing wrote:
I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.
Like this you mean :

*Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds*

http://www.express.c

o.uk/news/uk/483145/

Poor-white-children-

are-bottom-of-the-cl

****
Yes, precisely Hoffster.

Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin.

“diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.[/p][/quote]Like this you mean : *Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds* http://www.express.c o.uk/news/uk/483145/ Poor-white-children- are-bottom-of-the-cl ****[/p][/quote]Yes, precisely Hoffster. Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin. “diverse cultural background” covers all the communities. izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 13

5:48pm Sun 22 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
izzystillbreathing wrote:
I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.
Like this you mean :

*Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds*

http://www.express.c


o.uk/news/uk/483145/


Poor-white-children-


are-bottom-of-the-cl


****
Yes, precisely Hoffster.

Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin.

“diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.
its funny how people can use the word white but try it the other way round and its racism!
Mmm???
its mostly indian and chinese asians who are doing well by the way.
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.[/p][/quote]Like this you mean : *Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds* http://www.express.c o.uk/news/uk/483145/ Poor-white-children- are-bottom-of-the-cl ****[/p][/quote]Yes, precisely Hoffster. Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin. “diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.[/p][/quote]its funny how people can use the word white but try it the other way round and its racism! Mmm??? its mostly indian and chinese asians who are doing well by the way. tinytoonster
  • Score: 6

5:50pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Apollo says...

Is that the same Bradford College that does not employ lecturers for some of its students but takes their tuition fees?

OFSTED need to pay some attention to that and not press releases.
Is that the same Bradford College that does not employ lecturers for some of its students but takes their tuition fees? OFSTED need to pay some attention to that and not press releases. Apollo
  • Score: 11

7:22pm Sun 22 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

baildongreen wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.
So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?
I'm proud to say I spent all my working life away from Bradford. I returned when my parents died and as soon as I can sell the house I'm offski. I knew Bradford in the 60's and I know it now. Believe me it hasn't improved.

I know people work hard to make Bradford better, it's just that they always do the wrong things, or fail at doing the right things. Look around, there's not much to get excited about. The teachers are sensible, they vote with their feet, like I did.
However some of us "losers" have managed to buy our own houses, or in some cases multiple houses without relying on an inheritance.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.[/p][/quote]Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.[/p][/quote]So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?[/p][/quote]I'm proud to say I spent all my working life away from Bradford. I returned when my parents died and as soon as I can sell the house I'm offski. I knew Bradford in the 60's and I know it now. Believe me it hasn't improved. I know people work hard to make Bradford better, it's just that they always do the wrong things, or fail at doing the right things. Look around, there's not much to get excited about. The teachers are sensible, they vote with their feet, like I did.[/p][/quote]However some of us "losers" have managed to buy our own houses, or in some cases multiple houses without relying on an inheritance. linebacker2
  • Score: 4

7:46pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

linebacker2 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.
Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.
So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?
I'm proud to say I spent all my working life away from Bradford. I returned when my parents died and as soon as I can sell the house I'm offski. I knew Bradford in the 60's and I know it now. Believe me it hasn't improved.

I know people work hard to make Bradford better, it's just that they always do the wrong things, or fail at doing the right things. Look around, there's not much to get excited about. The teachers are sensible, they vote with their feet, like I did.
However some of us "losers" have managed to buy our own houses, or in some cases multiple houses without relying on an inheritance.
Slum landlord then linebacker?
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: Good news, but how many of these well-trained teachers go on to work in Bradford? From the state of our schools, not many it would appear. Either that of the Council effectively prevents them from doing their best work.[/p][/quote]Anybody with a bit of gumption wants to get out of Bradford. Can't blame the teachers. This is a City for losers that's going nowhere.[/p][/quote]So the fact you're still here would suggest you too are a loser without gumption does it not?[/p][/quote]I'm proud to say I spent all my working life away from Bradford. I returned when my parents died and as soon as I can sell the house I'm offski. I knew Bradford in the 60's and I know it now. Believe me it hasn't improved. I know people work hard to make Bradford better, it's just that they always do the wrong things, or fail at doing the right things. Look around, there's not much to get excited about. The teachers are sensible, they vote with their feet, like I did.[/p][/quote]However some of us "losers" have managed to buy our own houses, or in some cases multiple houses without relying on an inheritance.[/p][/quote]Slum landlord then linebacker? Grumpygirl
  • Score: -2

7:49pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
izzystillbreathing wrote:
I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.
Like this you mean :

*Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds*

http://www.express.c


o.uk/news/uk/483145/


Poor-white-children-


are-bottom-of-the-cl


****
Yes, precisely Hoffster.

Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin.

“diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.
Quite right. the problem with Bradford is the number of underachievers and the way they drag this city down. The community they come from is irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.[/p][/quote]Like this you mean : *Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds* http://www.express.c o.uk/news/uk/483145/ Poor-white-children- are-bottom-of-the-cl ****[/p][/quote]Yes, precisely Hoffster. Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin. “diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.[/p][/quote]Quite right. the problem with Bradford is the number of underachievers and the way they drag this city down. The community they come from is irrelevant. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Sun 22 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
izzystillbreathing wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
izzystillbreathing wrote:
I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.
Like this you mean :

*Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds*

http://www.express.c



o.uk/news/uk/483145/



Poor-white-children-



are-bottom-of-the-cl



****
Yes, precisely Hoffster.

Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin.

“diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.
Quite right. the problem with Bradford is the number of underachievers and the way they drag this city down. The community they come from is irrelevant.
And people who wade in with snide comments about anyone who's successful doesn't drag the city down?
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: I should imagine all that classroom practice in the schools with a “diverse cultural background” gives them every incentive to get out of Bradford as soon as they’ve graduated.[/p][/quote]Like this you mean : *Poor white children are ‘bottom of the class’ compared to other ethnic backgrounds* http://www.express.c o.uk/news/uk/483145/ Poor-white-children- are-bottom-of-the-cl ****[/p][/quote]Yes, precisely Hoffster. Nobody wants to teach a class of no-hopers and no-learners whatever the colour of their skin. “diverse cultural background” covers all the communities.[/p][/quote]Quite right. the problem with Bradford is the number of underachievers and the way they drag this city down. The community they come from is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]And people who wade in with snide comments about anyone who's successful doesn't drag the city down? linebacker2
  • Score: 3

9:08pm Sun 22 Jun 14

graham hopkinson says...

As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.
As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us. graham hopkinson
  • Score: 5

9:55pm Sun 22 Jun 14

i'dliketosay says...

Having attended a top university i came to Bradford to teach. Unlike those who feel they need to jump off a sinking ship, and move out, then goodbye! The teachers are really trying to make a difference. The negative attitude of so many commentators on here ready to pour their vitriol on any positive story is disgraceful
Having attended a top university i came to Bradford to teach. Unlike those who feel they need to jump off a sinking ship, and move out, then goodbye! The teachers are really trying to make a difference. The negative attitude of so many commentators on here ready to pour their vitriol on any positive story is disgraceful i'dliketosay
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Sun 22 Jun 14

micela22 says...

studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t
studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t micela22
  • Score: 6

7:59am Mon 23 Jun 14

Apollo says...

The same Bradford College that can take over 3 months to mark an essay?
The same Bradford College that can take over 3 months to mark an essay? Apollo
  • Score: 5

9:31am Mon 23 Jun 14

FinlandStation says...

i'dliketosay wrote:
Having attended a top university i came to Bradford to teach. Unlike those who feel they need to jump off a sinking ship, and move out, then goodbye! The teachers are really trying to make a difference. The negative attitude of so many commentators on here ready to pour their vitriol on any positive story is disgraceful
Welcome to the thread.

Since you have first hand experience of the Bradford education can you let us know what is actually wrong with it? Why are we so near the bottom of the league tables and why does the Council need a 16 point plan to fix the problems. There are plenty of other authorities without these issues; why is Bradford so different?

Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]i'dliketosay[/bold] wrote: Having attended a top university i came to Bradford to teach. Unlike those who feel they need to jump off a sinking ship, and move out, then goodbye! The teachers are really trying to make a difference. The negative attitude of so many commentators on here ready to pour their vitriol on any positive story is disgraceful[/p][/quote]Welcome to the thread. Since you have first hand experience of the Bradford education can you let us know what is actually wrong with it? Why are we so near the bottom of the league tables and why does the Council need a 16 point plan to fix the problems. There are plenty of other authorities without these issues; why is Bradford so different? Thank you. FinlandStation
  • Score: 3

9:37am Mon 23 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

graham hopkinson wrote:
As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.
Do they, by any chance, teach spelling at Bradford College and the virtues of checking over one’s work before submitting? Or would this get in the way of the child-centred path to educational Nirvana?
[quote][p][bold]graham hopkinson[/bold] wrote: As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.[/p][/quote]Do they, by any chance, teach spelling at Bradford College and the virtues of checking over one’s work before submitting? Or would this get in the way of the child-centred path to educational Nirvana? izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 2

9:41am Mon 23 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

FinlandStation wrote:
i'dliketosay wrote:
Having attended a top university i came to Bradford to teach. Unlike those who feel they need to jump off a sinking ship, and move out, then goodbye! The teachers are really trying to make a difference. The negative attitude of so many commentators on here ready to pour their vitriol on any positive story is disgraceful
Welcome to the thread.

Since you have first hand experience of the Bradford education can you let us know what is actually wrong with it? Why are we so near the bottom of the league tables and why does the Council need a 16 point plan to fix the problems. There are plenty of other authorities without these issues; why is Bradford so different?

Thank you.
Careful Finland. This reads like a bcfc clone who probably has more aliases than the Hoffster. The Council must be desperate to try tricks like this.
[quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i'dliketosay[/bold] wrote: Having attended a top university i came to Bradford to teach. Unlike those who feel they need to jump off a sinking ship, and move out, then goodbye! The teachers are really trying to make a difference. The negative attitude of so many commentators on here ready to pour their vitriol on any positive story is disgraceful[/p][/quote]Welcome to the thread. Since you have first hand experience of the Bradford education can you let us know what is actually wrong with it? Why are we so near the bottom of the league tables and why does the Council need a 16 point plan to fix the problems. There are plenty of other authorities without these issues; why is Bradford so different? Thank you.[/p][/quote]Careful Finland. This reads like a bcfc clone who probably has more aliases than the Hoffster. The Council must be desperate to try tricks like this. izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 1

9:48am Mon 23 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
graham hopkinson wrote:
As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.
Do they, by any chance, teach spelling at Bradford College and the virtues of checking over one’s work before submitting? Or would this get in the way of the child-centred path to educational Nirvana?
Well said Izzy.

Poor quality skills, means poor quality teaching, means making a virtue out of being stuck in Bradford and unable to get a job elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham hopkinson[/bold] wrote: As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.[/p][/quote]Do they, by any chance, teach spelling at Bradford College and the virtues of checking over one’s work before submitting? Or would this get in the way of the child-centred path to educational Nirvana?[/p][/quote]Well said Izzy. Poor quality skills, means poor quality teaching, means making a virtue out of being stuck in Bradford and unable to get a job elsewhere. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 0

10:49am Mon 23 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
graham hopkinson wrote:
As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.
Do they, by any chance, teach spelling at Bradford College and the virtues of checking over one’s work before submitting? Or would this get in the way of the child-centred path to educational Nirvana?
I have read very carefully what Mr Gove and his advisor Mr Cummings have said about child centred learning. It is a socialist inspired system that is entirely responsible for this country’s low standing in the global education league tables. It has to be abandoned in favour of the tried and tested methods that served this country so well in centuries past.

It is also time to bring back corporal punishment. The child who has felt the sting of the tawse will be more willing to learn in a disciplined manner.
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham hopkinson[/bold] wrote: As a former student of Bradford college I would like to congrTulate them om their success . Well done. I went on to teach in Bradford schools nod I am very proud of my city despite the bad press of or education. I have worked hard I. An inner city school to turn a school round and to watch children succeed and attain higher than the national average. We are always shown I a negative light but we have so much good going for us.[/p][/quote]Do they, by any chance, teach spelling at Bradford College and the virtues of checking over one’s work before submitting? Or would this get in the way of the child-centred path to educational Nirvana?[/p][/quote]I have read very carefully what Mr Gove and his advisor Mr Cummings have said about child centred learning. It is a socialist inspired system that is entirely responsible for this country’s low standing in the global education league tables. It has to be abandoned in favour of the tried and tested methods that served this country so well in centuries past. It is also time to bring back corporal punishment. The child who has felt the sting of the tawse will be more willing to learn in a disciplined manner. pcmanners
  • Score: 2

10:52am Mon 23 Jun 14

allinittogether says...

micela22 wrote:
studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t
You're quite right but in any industry whenever an audit is due managers become more diligent, just human nature.
[quote][p][bold]micela22[/bold] wrote: studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t[/p][/quote]You're quite right but in any industry whenever an audit is due managers become more diligent, just human nature. allinittogether
  • Score: 2

1:27pm Mon 23 Jun 14

SurprisedByJoyce says...

allinittogether wrote:
micela22 wrote:
studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t
You're quite right but in any industry whenever an audit is due managers become more diligent, just human nature.
That's very true, but it's still fiddling the results. More importantly the children will get the message that it's all right to cheat.

This exclusive concentration on OFSTED ratings means that the educational establishment are letting down not just this city but the whole country as well.
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]micela22[/bold] wrote: studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t[/p][/quote]You're quite right but in any industry whenever an audit is due managers become more diligent, just human nature.[/p][/quote]That's very true, but it's still fiddling the results. More importantly the children will get the message that it's all right to cheat. This exclusive concentration on OFSTED ratings means that the educational establishment are letting down not just this city but the whole country as well. SurprisedByJoyce
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Mon 23 Jun 14

allinittogether says...

SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
micela22 wrote:
studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t
You're quite right but in any industry whenever an audit is due managers become more diligent, just human nature.
That's very true, but it's still fiddling the results. More importantly the children will get the message that it's all right to cheat.

This exclusive concentration on OFSTED ratings means that the educational establishment are letting down not just this city but the whole country as well.
Very true, but having witnessed how OFSTED do go into a school the perception is that they have an agenda before the inspection starts and hearing Michael Gove and Michael Wilshaw's utterings it's hard to take issue with that perception.
Until OFSTED give the impression they are there to help schools improve the climate of fear that drives rushing around prior to an inspection will continue.
[quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]micela22[/bold] wrote: studied at college in BD postcode area for 4 years, The teaching, prompting & preparation for OFSTED week was always so different from the other weeks of `education` I paid for, I know that this is the same in other regulated industries: Instead of telling them when they`ll call in it should be done anonymously & randomly, If standards are consistently so good there`s nothing to worry about, truth is they aren`t[/p][/quote]You're quite right but in any industry whenever an audit is due managers become more diligent, just human nature.[/p][/quote]That's very true, but it's still fiddling the results. More importantly the children will get the message that it's all right to cheat. This exclusive concentration on OFSTED ratings means that the educational establishment are letting down not just this city but the whole country as well.[/p][/quote]Very true, but having witnessed how OFSTED do go into a school the perception is that they have an agenda before the inspection starts and hearing Michael Gove and Michael Wilshaw's utterings it's hard to take issue with that perception. Until OFSTED give the impression they are there to help schools improve the climate of fear that drives rushing around prior to an inspection will continue. allinittogether
  • Score: 1

9:23pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Colin Allcars says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
The educational league tables tell their own story, Bradford needs good quality teachers and Bradford has a source of excellent teachers who have already taught in our schools. This should be good news, yet Cllr. Berry does nothing to incentivise them to stay.

This seems to be part of a bigger problem. The Council systematically fails to capitalise on the few things that Bradford has going for it, whether it’s the teachers, our Curry Capital status or the Festival.
There is no status in being the 'Curry Capital', just like there is no status in the idiot council spending decades building a close relationship with a corrupt, intolerant country such as Pakistan
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: The educational league tables tell their own story, Bradford needs good quality teachers and Bradford has a source of excellent teachers who have already taught in our schools. This should be good news, yet Cllr. Berry does nothing to incentivise them to stay. This seems to be part of a bigger problem. The Council systematically fails to capitalise on the few things that Bradford has going for it, whether it’s the teachers, our Curry Capital status or the Festival.[/p][/quote]There is no status in being the 'Curry Capital', just like there is no status in the idiot council spending decades building a close relationship with a corrupt, intolerant country such as Pakistan Colin Allcars
  • Score: 0

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