Rival plans for former Odeon in Bradford go on public show

Caroline Cummings, of Bradford One, and Lee Craven, of Bradford Live, present their rival schemes for the former Odeon cinema

An artist's impression of Bradford Live's plans for the former cinema

An artist's impression of Bradford One's plans for the former cinema

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MEMBERS of the public got to scrutinise two rival plans to safeguard the future of the Odeon at an event today.

Bradford Council organised the exhibition to showcase bids by Bradford One and Bradford Live, which both have plans to breathe new life into the landmark building.

They both want to transform the former cinema into new live performance venue, but would take different approaches to the way it would be designed, funded and operated.

The public exhibition was held at City Park's pavilion building and key members of both teams were on hand to answer questions.

A steady stream of people pored over both plans and filled out their thoughts on feedback forms, which the council will now consider among other factors as it weighs up the pros and cons of both schemes.

Bradford One founder-director Caroline Cummings was one of those on hand to chat to people about their bid.

She said: "It's nice to be able to show people the plans - you can't wander round town with big displays and it can be hard to see the detail on the website.

"It's also nice to chat to people so they can find out more about the people involved.

"We have done quite a few public events and we always get a really good response from people.

"People are really passionate about the Odeon, which is brilliant, and it says something about the people of Bradford."

One of those talking people through Bradford Live's bid was its director, Lee Craven.

He said: "For the 'expressions of interest' phase two, we did a public consultation and put forward a survey, and I know the other group did as well."

But he said it was good to get another opportunity to present their plans to the public.

He said: "You can get caught up in doing this project, sometimes I think you can forget the wider picture, so I think it's a good idea.

"It is also a chance for the public to come and have a look and ask questions."

Bradford Council will now have to decide whether one or both schemes would be viable. This decision is expected by July.

If both are considered to be workable, there will be further evaluation work done through the summer and autumn, with a decision on the council’s preferred bidder announced in November.

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4:37pm Thu 19 Jun 14

JAtkinson says...

Good luck to both groups. The passion they've shown for Bradford and one of its iconic buildings is something we can all learn from and be inspired by. Well done.

Now it's saved (fingers crossed), let's make the most of it and use it.
Good luck to both groups. The passion they've shown for Bradford and one of its iconic buildings is something we can all learn from and be inspired by. Well done. Now it's saved (fingers crossed), let's make the most of it and use it. JAtkinson
  • Score: 20

6:35pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Been and looked 2 good plans, hard choice to make between the two.
Think the final choice will come down to finance and building ownership.

At the end of the day when Council make the decisions on which one all will involved will be able to work together to make the Odeon/New Victoria a success story for Bradford.

I do not want to hear both rejected as we all know what that means.
Been and looked 2 good plans, hard choice to make between the two. Think the final choice will come down to finance and building ownership. At the end of the day when Council make the decisions on which one all will involved will be able to work together to make the Odeon/New Victoria a success story for Bradford. I do not want to hear both rejected as we all know what that means. Joedavid
  • Score: 15

12:18am Fri 20 Jun 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

It's not definitely saved as the council might not find either bid plausible. One of my concerns is what quality of restaurants are they on about as if would be an average curry shop that looks pretty. And the parking for both bids. There isn't enough parking available for either having a gig for 25% coming by car. Then the quality of promoters. The most known is Live Nation who have most decent sized bands signed up to them. It would cost a few bob to get these bands off them and if it was too much then it might not make a profit.
Personally l might gain from either bid going ahead and l should hope one of the bids wins but l'd like yo know these answers from someone in the know.
I have an interest in some buildings nearby and quite honestly the facade if kept in red brick looks a mess. It the red brick was rendered over to look similar to the Alhambra then fine.
But we still have the parking problem as we know and the car park opposite the old Windsor baths is now being built on.
It's not definitely saved as the council might not find either bid plausible. One of my concerns is what quality of restaurants are they on about as if would be an average curry shop that looks pretty. And the parking for both bids. There isn't enough parking available for either having a gig for 25% coming by car. Then the quality of promoters. The most known is Live Nation who have most decent sized bands signed up to them. It would cost a few bob to get these bands off them and if it was too much then it might not make a profit. Personally l might gain from either bid going ahead and l should hope one of the bids wins but l'd like yo know these answers from someone in the know. I have an interest in some buildings nearby and quite honestly the facade if kept in red brick looks a mess. It the red brick was rendered over to look similar to the Alhambra then fine. But we still have the parking problem as we know and the car park opposite the old Windsor baths is now being built on. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: -8

8:52am Fri 20 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
It's not definitely saved as the council might not find either bid plausible. One of my concerns is what quality of restaurants are they on about as if would be an average curry shop that looks pretty. And the parking for both bids. There isn't enough parking available for either having a gig for 25% coming by car. Then the quality of promoters. The most known is Live Nation who have most decent sized bands signed up to them. It would cost a few bob to get these bands off them and if it was too much then it might not make a profit.
Personally l might gain from either bid going ahead and l should hope one of the bids wins but l'd like yo know these answers from someone in the know.
I have an interest in some buildings nearby and quite honestly the facade if kept in red brick looks a mess. It the red brick was rendered over to look similar to the Alhambra then fine.
But we still have the parking problem as we know and the car park opposite the old Windsor baths is now being built on.
Having been to Leeds Arena 4 times and I know they do not provide parking so do not understand why you think these 2 developers should.
Look up some photos of the Alhambra of say 30 years ago prior to that building being refurbished and see how ugly that was and what as now been achieved.
The present look of the Odeon would improve right now if the owners, the Council, were to remove the weeds and trees growing on it and cleaned the brick work of stains.
I do hope the Council are serious in wanting to help save the building.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: It's not definitely saved as the council might not find either bid plausible. One of my concerns is what quality of restaurants are they on about as if would be an average curry shop that looks pretty. And the parking for both bids. There isn't enough parking available for either having a gig for 25% coming by car. Then the quality of promoters. The most known is Live Nation who have most decent sized bands signed up to them. It would cost a few bob to get these bands off them and if it was too much then it might not make a profit. Personally l might gain from either bid going ahead and l should hope one of the bids wins but l'd like yo know these answers from someone in the know. I have an interest in some buildings nearby and quite honestly the facade if kept in red brick looks a mess. It the red brick was rendered over to look similar to the Alhambra then fine. But we still have the parking problem as we know and the car park opposite the old Windsor baths is now being built on.[/p][/quote]Having been to Leeds Arena 4 times and I know they do not provide parking so do not understand why you think these 2 developers should. Look up some photos of the Alhambra of say 30 years ago prior to that building being refurbished and see how ugly that was and what as now been achieved. The present look of the Odeon would improve right now if the owners, the Council, were to remove the weeds and trees growing on it and cleaned the brick work of stains. I do hope the Council are serious in wanting to help save the building. Joedavid
  • Score: 9

8:52am Fri 20 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
It's not definitely saved as the council might not find either bid plausible. One of my concerns is what quality of restaurants are they on about as if would be an average curry shop that looks pretty. And the parking for both bids. There isn't enough parking available for either having a gig for 25% coming by car. Then the quality of promoters. The most known is Live Nation who have most decent sized bands signed up to them. It would cost a few bob to get these bands off them and if it was too much then it might not make a profit.
Personally l might gain from either bid going ahead and l should hope one of the bids wins but l'd like yo know these answers from someone in the know.
I have an interest in some buildings nearby and quite honestly the facade if kept in red brick looks a mess. It the red brick was rendered over to look similar to the Alhambra then fine.
But we still have the parking problem as we know and the car park opposite the old Windsor baths is now being built on.
Having been to Leeds Arena 4 times and I know they do not provide parking so do not understand why you think these 2 developers should.
Look up some photos of the Alhambra of say 30 years ago prior to that building being refurbished and see how ugly that was and what as now been achieved.
The present look of the Odeon would improve right now if the owners, the Council, were to remove the weeds and trees growing on it and cleaned the brick work of stains.
I do hope the Council are serious in wanting to help save the building.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: It's not definitely saved as the council might not find either bid plausible. One of my concerns is what quality of restaurants are they on about as if would be an average curry shop that looks pretty. And the parking for both bids. There isn't enough parking available for either having a gig for 25% coming by car. Then the quality of promoters. The most known is Live Nation who have most decent sized bands signed up to them. It would cost a few bob to get these bands off them and if it was too much then it might not make a profit. Personally l might gain from either bid going ahead and l should hope one of the bids wins but l'd like yo know these answers from someone in the know. I have an interest in some buildings nearby and quite honestly the facade if kept in red brick looks a mess. It the red brick was rendered over to look similar to the Alhambra then fine. But we still have the parking problem as we know and the car park opposite the old Windsor baths is now being built on.[/p][/quote]Having been to Leeds Arena 4 times and I know they do not provide parking so do not understand why you think these 2 developers should. Look up some photos of the Alhambra of say 30 years ago prior to that building being refurbished and see how ugly that was and what as now been achieved. The present look of the Odeon would improve right now if the owners, the Council, were to remove the weeds and trees growing on it and cleaned the brick work of stains. I do hope the Council are serious in wanting to help save the building. Joedavid
  • Score: 3

9:50am Fri 20 Jun 14

AndyWineHands says...

I went to see the bids yesterday, great showcase of Bradford's talented and passionate people. Personally I'd support Bradford One, they have a more realistic view of what the building can do and they've already put work in the hands of Bradford firms before the building's even theirs, that's what we need!!!
Im looking forward to stepping back inside!!!
I went to see the bids yesterday, great showcase of Bradford's talented and passionate people. Personally I'd support Bradford One, they have a more realistic view of what the building can do and they've already put work in the hands of Bradford firms before the building's even theirs, that's what we need!!! Im looking forward to stepping back inside!!! AndyWineHands
  • Score: 5

8:16pm Fri 20 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Good luck to both schemes, I mentioned on the other thread that I prefer the Bradford Live scheme.

Hopefully one or the other is picked as the wrecking ball would be a devastating third option and would in my opinion be political suicide for whoever brought that onto the Odeon site.
Good luck to both schemes, I mentioned on the other thread that I prefer the Bradford Live scheme. Hopefully one or the other is picked as the wrecking ball would be a devastating third option and would in my opinion be political suicide for whoever brought that onto the Odeon site. bcfc1903
  • Score: 0

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