Bradford-based Morrisons could axe more than 2,500 jobs

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Dalton Philips Dalton Philips

Around 2,600 Morrisons store staff are facing redundancy as the beleaguered Bradford supermarket chain looks to axe layers of managers.

The group has begun discussions with staff and their representatives about changes aimed at at taking out as many as seven layers of in-store management.

The company says a simpler management structure will boost customer service.

Dalton Philips, chief executive, said: “This is the right time to modernise the way our stores are managed. These changes will improve our focus on customers and lead to simpler, smarter ways of working. We know that moving to the new management structure will mean uncertainty for our colleagues and we will be supporting them through the process.”

Joanne McGuinness, Usdaw national officer representing Morrison’s workers, said : ‘The next few weeks will be a worrying time for our members in Morrison’s and we will do everything possible to support them."

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1:38pm Tue 17 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.
Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder. baildongreen
  • Score: 37

1:42pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bullbob says...

Sir Ken has spoken.
Shame he can't offer some of his profits to the people who may lose their jobs, instead of lambasting at the AGM.
Senior mis-management again resulting in the workers losing their income.
Sir Ken has spoken. Shame he can't offer some of his profits to the people who may lose their jobs, instead of lambasting at the AGM. Senior mis-management again resulting in the workers losing their income. bullbob
  • Score: 22

1:51pm Tue 17 Jun 14

sorrow&anger says...

This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.
This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 45

1:56pm Tue 17 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

bcfc is strangely quiet on this story.
bcfc is strangely quiet on this story. izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 22

1:56pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Bornagain2him says...

Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"!
Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"! Bornagain2him
  • Score: 27

2:08pm Tue 17 Jun 14

angry bradfordian says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.
To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country.

I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket!
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.[/p][/quote]To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country. I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket! angry bradfordian
  • Score: 11

2:14pm Tue 17 Jun 14

eccythump says...

Bornagain2him wrote:
Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"!
Never thought I hear that said about Bradford ;) ;)
[quote][p][bold]Bornagain2him[/bold] wrote: Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"![/p][/quote]Never thought I hear that said about Bradford ;) ;) eccythump
  • Score: 23

2:50pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

I think when read the company profile that Sir Ken only has about 1.9% of shares.
Dalton is blowing smoke making out it'll be better customer service. Translate that to the shareholders want more money.
Buying Safeway wasn't the safe way in the end. Maybe they should sell off a chunk of the southern stores and they are even in Gibraltar, whats all that about.
Tighten the purse strings that way and it might show a sign of weakness but at least it would show they are doing something about addressing the real problem.
I think when read the company profile that Sir Ken only has about 1.9% of shares. Dalton is blowing smoke making out it'll be better customer service. Translate that to the shareholders want more money. Buying Safeway wasn't the safe way in the end. Maybe they should sell off a chunk of the southern stores and they are even in Gibraltar, whats all that about. Tighten the purse strings that way and it might show a sign of weakness but at least it would show they are doing something about addressing the real problem. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 2

3:02pm Tue 17 Jun 14

theoutsider says...

Ken's going to be fuming at the state of Morribogs. I think its going to get swallowed up by Aldi or Lidl both main rivals. Been in on this since Ken marched this business from its market stall in the Kirkgate Market to becoming a UK giant. So to see it now turning in on itself is sad. That said Morrisons have sucked the life out of small business in Bradford down the years. What they gave us in return was low paid mostly part time work to replace it. City Hall will want to pay due homage one day to Ken; with a statue in front a t'City Hall. But it would be wrong because he never gave to the City as much as he took. Perhaps this is a kind of pay back what comes around and all that. But Ken's going to be fuming at the next board meeting for sure; and would not put it past him to go back in himself and don his apron on the fruit and veg at Girlington again. He did not need to do that but he did; and in a way it worked; the business prospered. Once he stepped aside and its landed in the hands of 'the City suits' and they just do not understand what Morribogs was good at. RIP Morribogs another Bradford institution down the shute!.
Ken's going to be fuming at the state of Morribogs. I think its going to get swallowed up by Aldi or Lidl both main rivals. Been in on this since Ken marched this business from its market stall in the Kirkgate Market to becoming a UK giant. So to see it now turning in on itself is sad. That said Morrisons have sucked the life out of small business in Bradford down the years. What they gave us in return was low paid mostly part time work to replace it. City Hall will want to pay due homage one day to Ken; with a statue in front a t'City Hall. But it would be wrong because he never gave to the City as much as he took. Perhaps this is a kind of pay back what comes around and all that. But Ken's going to be fuming at the next board meeting for sure; and would not put it past him to go back in himself and don his apron on the fruit and veg at Girlington again. He did not need to do that but he did; and in a way it worked; the business prospered. Once he stepped aside and its landed in the hands of 'the City suits' and they just do not understand what Morribogs was good at. RIP Morribogs another Bradford institution down the shute!. theoutsider
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Tue 17 Jun 14

captainbaldyman says...

It's disgusting to think about all these job losses.So when will Dalton go?,at least Sir Ian Gibson saw sense and is leaving.I totally agree with what Ken said,and the blame for the status of Morrisons should lay at the hands of the board members and especially Dalton Phillips.It doesn't help when Morrisons sell third rate fruit and veg and is dearer then anywhere else.
It's disgusting to think about all these job losses.So when will Dalton go?,at least Sir Ian Gibson saw sense and is leaving.I totally agree with what Ken said,and the blame for the status of Morrisons should lay at the hands of the board members and especially Dalton Phillips.It doesn't help when Morrisons sell third rate fruit and veg and is dearer then anywhere else. captainbaldyman
  • Score: 17

4:12pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Apollo says...

Morrisons will be gone as a name in the next 5 years. A bit like Hillards.
Morrisons will be gone as a name in the next 5 years. A bit like Hillards. Apollo
  • Score: 14

4:18pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

captainbaldyman wrote:
It's disgusting to think about all these job losses.So when will Dalton go?,at least Sir Ian Gibson saw sense and is leaving.I totally agree with what Ken said,and the blame for the status of Morrisons should lay at the hands of the board members and especially Dalton Phillips.It doesn't help when Morrisons sell third rate fruit and veg and is dearer then anywhere else.
True enough. This is a board failure for which the workers will be the first and probably the only ones to pay.
[quote][p][bold]captainbaldyman[/bold] wrote: It's disgusting to think about all these job losses.So when will Dalton go?,at least Sir Ian Gibson saw sense and is leaving.I totally agree with what Ken said,and the blame for the status of Morrisons should lay at the hands of the board members and especially Dalton Phillips.It doesn't help when Morrisons sell third rate fruit and veg and is dearer then anywhere else.[/p][/quote]True enough. This is a board failure for which the workers will be the first and probably the only ones to pay. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 23

4:19pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Might be Sir Ken that started the rot by not expanding the range of items being sold when others were expanding to one stop shop.
Did not help selling the small Safeways off when rivals were extending their number of small stores.
Also sold off all the stores in Northern Ireland to Asda.
Might be Sir Ken that started the rot by not expanding the range of items being sold when others were expanding to one stop shop. Did not help selling the small Safeways off when rivals were extending their number of small stores. Also sold off all the stores in Northern Ireland to Asda. Joedavid
  • Score: 14

4:32pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.
To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country.

I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket!
I understand your point.

Although I expect that the axe will fall particularly heavily on the Bradford HQ the main problem lies in the headline, "Bradford-based Morrisons" which will be repeated in one form or another by all the nationals and TV news programmes. It's just another nail in the perception coffin. It comes at an especially bad time when the Labour Group are trying to get their revivalist producer-city bandwagon rolling.

We've talked about this before, but Cllr Hinchcliffe and her Visit Bradford department need to concentrate exclusively on finding good news stories that will stand up (unlike yesterday's tourist hype) and start promoting these nationally. The Bradford dog has had a bad name for too long.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.[/p][/quote]To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country. I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket![/p][/quote]I understand your point. Although I expect that the axe will fall particularly heavily on the Bradford HQ the main problem lies in the headline, "Bradford-based Morrisons" which will be repeated in one form or another by all the nationals and TV news programmes. It's just another nail in the perception coffin. It comes at an especially bad time when the Labour Group are trying to get their revivalist producer-city bandwagon rolling. We've talked about this before, but Cllr Hinchcliffe and her Visit Bradford department need to concentrate exclusively on finding good news stories that will stand up (unlike yesterday's tourist hype) and start promoting these nationally. The Bradford dog has had a bad name for too long. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 18

4:41pm Tue 17 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

Joedavid wrote:
Might be Sir Ken that started the rot by not expanding the range of items being sold when others were expanding to one stop shop.
Did not help selling the small Safeways off when rivals were extending their number of small stores.
Also sold off all the stores in Northern Ireland to Asda.
Very true. Regrettably much of this failure does belong to Sir Ken. Like many of his generation he failed to grasp the importance of on-line shopping and smaller convenience stores. His vision failed at a crucial time, probably because he underestimated the effort in integrating Safeways and was completely distracted.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Might be Sir Ken that started the rot by not expanding the range of items being sold when others were expanding to one stop shop. Did not help selling the small Safeways off when rivals were extending their number of small stores. Also sold off all the stores in Northern Ireland to Asda.[/p][/quote]Very true. Regrettably much of this failure does belong to Sir Ken. Like many of his generation he failed to grasp the importance of on-line shopping and smaller convenience stores. His vision failed at a crucial time, probably because he underestimated the effort in integrating Safeways and was completely distracted. gouldengirl
  • Score: 20

4:50pm Tue 17 Jun 14

SurprisedByJoyce says...

eccythump wrote:
Bornagain2him wrote:
Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"!
Never thought I hear that said about Bradford ;) ;)
I only wish they were Indians, especially the ones who came here from Uganda who have integrated, prospered and not once rioted or tried to blow us up. Unfortunately what we’ve got are mostly Pakistanis and Muslims. Did you see that the Council has had to beg £50 M to sort out the inner city squalor?
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bornagain2him[/bold] wrote: Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"![/p][/quote]Never thought I hear that said about Bradford ;) ;)[/p][/quote]I only wish they were Indians, especially the ones who came here from Uganda who have integrated, prospered and not once rioted or tried to blow us up. Unfortunately what we’ve got are mostly Pakistanis and Muslims. Did you see that the Council has had to beg £50 M to sort out the inner city squalor? SurprisedByJoyce
  • Score: 12

5:16pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Lynessman says...

expect around 5 redundancies per store and as 80% of the stores are not in Bradford this is not 2600 job losses for Bradford. Not great news anyway but not all doom and gloom as stated on this board.
expect around 5 redundancies per store and as 80% of the stores are not in Bradford this is not 2600 job losses for Bradford. Not great news anyway but not all doom and gloom as stated on this board. Lynessman
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Tue 17 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

baildongreen wrote:
Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.
On which planet does the running of Morrisons stores have anything to do with the local council FFS?
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.[/p][/quote]On which planet does the running of Morrisons stores have anything to do with the local council FFS? linebacker2
  • Score: 6

5:31pm Tue 17 Jun 14

StevieLad says...

gouldengirl wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Might be Sir Ken that started the rot by not expanding the range of items being sold when others were expanding to one stop shop.
Did not help selling the small Safeways off when rivals were extending their number of small stores.
Also sold off all the stores in Northern Ireland to Asda.
Very true. Regrettably much of this failure does belong to Sir Ken. Like many of his generation he failed to grasp the importance of on-line shopping and smaller convenience stores. His vision failed at a crucial time, probably because he underestimated the effort in integrating Safeways and was completely distracted.
While all the other cost competitors were selling tons of clothes, delivering groceries online, setting up vast catalogue-style "Direct" online shops and aggressively rolling out mini-shops, Morrisons resolutely "stuck to the knitting".

The only thing they really chucked money at was the new HQ and a vastly improved standard of TV advertising.

I just wish they would sort out the Wine section
[quote][p][bold]gouldengirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Might be Sir Ken that started the rot by not expanding the range of items being sold when others were expanding to one stop shop. Did not help selling the small Safeways off when rivals were extending their number of small stores. Also sold off all the stores in Northern Ireland to Asda.[/p][/quote]Very true. Regrettably much of this failure does belong to Sir Ken. Like many of his generation he failed to grasp the importance of on-line shopping and smaller convenience stores. His vision failed at a crucial time, probably because he underestimated the effort in integrating Safeways and was completely distracted.[/p][/quote]While all the other cost competitors were selling tons of clothes, delivering groceries online, setting up vast catalogue-style "Direct" online shops and aggressively rolling out mini-shops, Morrisons resolutely "stuck to the knitting". The only thing they really chucked money at was the new HQ and a vastly improved standard of TV advertising. I just wish they would sort out the Wine section StevieLad
  • Score: 13

5:35pm Tue 17 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
eccythump wrote:
Bornagain2him wrote:
Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"!
Never thought I hear that said about Bradford ;) ;)
I only wish they were Indians, especially the ones who came here from Uganda who have integrated, prospered and not once rioted or tried to blow us up. Unfortunately what we’ve got are mostly Pakistanis and Muslims. Did you see that the Council has had to beg £50 M to sort out the inner city squalor?
As well as the Indians there never seems to be any problems with the Italians, Poles, Chinese, Romanians, West Indians, Africans, etc. Just the Muslims.
[quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bornagain2him[/bold] wrote: Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"![/p][/quote]Never thought I hear that said about Bradford ;) ;)[/p][/quote]I only wish they were Indians, especially the ones who came here from Uganda who have integrated, prospered and not once rioted or tried to blow us up. Unfortunately what we’ve got are mostly Pakistanis and Muslims. Did you see that the Council has had to beg £50 M to sort out the inner city squalor?[/p][/quote]As well as the Indians there never seems to be any problems with the Italians, Poles, Chinese, Romanians, West Indians, Africans, etc. Just the Muslims. baildongreen
  • Score: 11

5:44pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Class_War says...

So much for the so-called "Jobs Boom".
So much for the so-called "Jobs Boom". Class_War
  • Score: 10

6:38pm Tue 17 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

It is the duty of any board to maximise the shareholders returns. If thus means sacking people then they have to do it. Companies do not owe their workers a living.
It is the duty of any board to maximise the shareholders returns. If thus means sacking people then they have to do it. Companies do not owe their workers a living. pcmanners
  • Score: 13

6:45pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

No surprise at all. Customer service is shocking, staff often ignorant and rather chat to each other, prices not competitive as elsewhere quite often. The only saving grace is the usual good to high standard of fresh meat.
No surprise at all. Customer service is shocking, staff often ignorant and rather chat to each other, prices not competitive as elsewhere quite often. The only saving grace is the usual good to high standard of fresh meat. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 12

6:56pm Tue 17 Jun 14

bachtothefuture says...

linebacker2 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.
On which planet does the running of Morrisons stores have anything to do with the local council FFS?
Obviously the Council has nothing to do with the failure of Morrisons, or at least I hope not. The problem is that here is another high profile, nationally reported, bad news story originating in Bradford. Businesses are as superstitious as the next person when it comes to relocation. They don't want to associate themselves with a set of losers.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.[/p][/quote]On which planet does the running of Morrisons stores have anything to do with the local council FFS?[/p][/quote]Obviously the Council has nothing to do with the failure of Morrisons, or at least I hope not. The problem is that here is another high profile, nationally reported, bad news story originating in Bradford. Businesses are as superstitious as the next person when it comes to relocation. They don't want to associate themselves with a set of losers. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 13

7:02pm Tue 17 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

bachtothefuture wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.
On which planet does the running of Morrisons stores have anything to do with the local council FFS?
Obviously the Council has nothing to do with the failure of Morrisons, or at least I hope not. The problem is that here is another high profile, nationally reported, bad news story originating in Bradford. Businesses are as superstitious as the next person when it comes to relocation. They don't want to associate themselves with a set of losers.
There are no bigger set of losers than the collection of communists running the Council. If we had a Conservative administration then Bradford would prosper.
[quote][p][bold]bachtothefuture[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: Not unexpected. Sad and unhelpful news on top of the Virgin redundancies. The rest of the country is experiencing an economic revival whilst Bradford slips further into the swamp. The Council must try harder.[/p][/quote]On which planet does the running of Morrisons stores have anything to do with the local council FFS?[/p][/quote]Obviously the Council has nothing to do with the failure of Morrisons, or at least I hope not. The problem is that here is another high profile, nationally reported, bad news story originating in Bradford. Businesses are as superstitious as the next person when it comes to relocation. They don't want to associate themselves with a set of losers.[/p][/quote]There are no bigger set of losers than the collection of communists running the Council. If we had a Conservative administration then Bradford would prosper. pcmanners
  • Score: 8

7:03pm Tue 17 Jun 14

alive and awake says...

Bornagain2him wrote:
Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"!
Not managers as we used to know, just glorified supervisors most of them.
[quote][p][bold]Bornagain2him[/bold] wrote: Not sure if I have read the article correctly, but seven layers of store management, that sounds like the old saw" too many chiefs, and not enough Indians"![/p][/quote]Not managers as we used to know, just glorified supervisors most of them. alive and awake
  • Score: 7

7:13pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in.
They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.
I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in. They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got. Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: 8

7:30pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

Alhaurinrhino wrote:
I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in.
They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.
Hull's big problem that I hear of is the lack of competition in telecoms and broadband because the council there restricts these to its own owned company.
[quote][p][bold]Alhaurinrhino[/bold] wrote: I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in. They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.[/p][/quote]Hull's big problem that I hear of is the lack of competition in telecoms and broadband because the council there restricts these to its own owned company. Joedavid
  • Score: -1

7:40pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

Alhaurinrhino wrote:
I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in.
They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.
Yes. Not so long ago Hull was deservedly top of the crap towns list, but its Council took the message to heart and started doing something. Result, regeneration.

Last year Bradford came second on the crap towns list and the Council issued its usual platitudes and carried on as usual. Result, further degeneration. The Council has just had to humiliate itself and beg for £50 M to help do something about infant mortality. Quite honestly things should not have come to this, we deserve better.
[quote][p][bold]Alhaurinrhino[/bold] wrote: I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in. They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.[/p][/quote]Yes. Not so long ago Hull was deservedly top of the crap towns list, but its Council took the message to heart and started doing something. Result, regeneration. Last year Bradford came second on the crap towns list and the Council issued its usual platitudes and carried on as usual. Result, further degeneration. The Council has just had to humiliate itself and beg for £50 M to help do something about infant mortality. Quite honestly things should not have come to this, we deserve better. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 10

8:01pm Tue 17 Jun 14

monobrow man says...

This is an old story brought up by the union. A lot of the job losses are actually just letting people get to retirement age and not replacing them. Aldi and lidl will be struggling shortly with the big supermarkets dropping prices.
This is an old story brought up by the union. A lot of the job losses are actually just letting people get to retirement age and not replacing them. Aldi and lidl will be struggling shortly with the big supermarkets dropping prices. monobrow man
  • Score: -3

8:08pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Joedavid says...

monobrow man wrote:
This is an old story brought up by the union. A lot of the job losses are actually just letting people get to retirement age and not replacing them. Aldi and lidl will be struggling shortly with the big supermarkets dropping prices.
Not noticeable in the giant Tesco this morning, only about a dozen shoppers like us and about 2 dozen of their staff doing on-line shopping.
[quote][p][bold]monobrow man[/bold] wrote: This is an old story brought up by the union. A lot of the job losses are actually just letting people get to retirement age and not replacing them. Aldi and lidl will be struggling shortly with the big supermarkets dropping prices.[/p][/quote]Not noticeable in the giant Tesco this morning, only about a dozen shoppers like us and about 2 dozen of their staff doing on-line shopping. Joedavid
  • Score: 4

9:07pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Bradford56 says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.
To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country.

I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket!
Well said. Also, not all 2,500 jobs are going from Bradford itself. They will be from stores up and down the country, probably getting rid of some dead wood along the way. Never great news when it comes to people loosing jobs but this has very little to do with Bradford as a City.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.[/p][/quote]To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country. I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket![/p][/quote]Well said. Also, not all 2,500 jobs are going from Bradford itself. They will be from stores up and down the country, probably getting rid of some dead wood along the way. Never great news when it comes to people loosing jobs but this has very little to do with Bradford as a City. Bradford56
  • Score: 0

9:12pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Bradford56 says...

Lynessman wrote:
expect around 5 redundancies per store and as 80% of the stores are not in Bradford this is not 2600 job losses for Bradford. Not great news anyway but not all doom and gloom as stated on this board.
Finally someone with some common sense!!
[quote][p][bold]Lynessman[/bold] wrote: expect around 5 redundancies per store and as 80% of the stores are not in Bradford this is not 2600 job losses for Bradford. Not great news anyway but not all doom and gloom as stated on this board.[/p][/quote]Finally someone with some common sense!! Bradford56
  • Score: 3

9:20pm Tue 17 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

monobrow man wrote:
This is an old story brought up by the union. A lot of the job losses are actually just letting people get to retirement age and not replacing them. Aldi and lidl will be struggling shortly with the big supermarkets dropping prices.
Quite so. The majors will indeed fight back against Aldi & Lidl - twenty years ago Kwik Save had a larger market share than Lidl & Aldi combined have now - where's Kwik Save now?
[quote][p][bold]monobrow man[/bold] wrote: This is an old story brought up by the union. A lot of the job losses are actually just letting people get to retirement age and not replacing them. Aldi and lidl will be struggling shortly with the big supermarkets dropping prices.[/p][/quote]Quite so. The majors will indeed fight back against Aldi & Lidl - twenty years ago Kwik Save had a larger market share than Lidl & Aldi combined have now - where's Kwik Save now? linebacker2
  • Score: 2

9:24pm Tue 17 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

Joedavid wrote:
Alhaurinrhino wrote:
I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in.
They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.
Hull's big problem that I hear of is the lack of competition in telecoms and broadband because the council there restricts these to its own owned company.
Hull does indeed have no competition in telecoms & Broadband, and the council do partly own the local telecoms company - but itt's an anachronism from national level as to why there's no competition in Hull
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alhaurinrhino[/bold] wrote: I was in Hull on business a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to hear of all the inwards investment that is pouring into the place. There is a genuine sense of optimism there and talk of between ten and fifteen thousand real jobs being created there on the back of nearly half a billion pounds of private investment coming in. They call Hull a dump, and to a certain extent it is, but it's doing a hell of a lot better than Bradford and its environs. Shows how bad things have really got.[/p][/quote]Hull's big problem that I hear of is the lack of competition in telecoms and broadband because the council there restricts these to its own owned company.[/p][/quote]Hull does indeed have no competition in telecoms & Broadband, and the council do partly own the local telecoms company - but itt's an anachronism from national level as to why there's no competition in Hull linebacker2
  • Score: 2

10:23pm Tue 17 Jun 14

FinlandStation says...

Bradford56 wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.
To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country.

I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket!
Well said. Also, not all 2,500 jobs are going from Bradford itself. They will be from stores up and down the country, probably getting rid of some dead wood along the way. Never great news when it comes to people loosing jobs but this has very little to do with Bradford as a City.
There probably won't be a huge loss of jobs in the city, maybe 150 or so from the HQ the rest from stores up and down the country. The main issue seems to be that it's another bad news story about business in Bradford. We had the Virgin lay offs just last week.
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: This is a further setback for Council’s stuttering attempts at revival. Nothing ever seems to go right for this once great city of ours; and this, along with the Virgin redundancies and record charitable handouts for public hygiene, will just add to the perception that Bradford is not the place to do business.[/p][/quote]To be fair to the Council (and I don't say this very often!) it's not a Council problem. This seems to be affecting every store throughout the country. I'm not sure what the Council are expected to do about levels of management in a Kent supermarket![/p][/quote]Well said. Also, not all 2,500 jobs are going from Bradford itself. They will be from stores up and down the country, probably getting rid of some dead wood along the way. Never great news when it comes to people loosing jobs but this has very little to do with Bradford as a City.[/p][/quote]There probably won't be a huge loss of jobs in the city, maybe 150 or so from the HQ the rest from stores up and down the country. The main issue seems to be that it's another bad news story about business in Bradford. We had the Virgin lay offs just last week. FinlandStation
  • Score: 1

11:29pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Simon4567 says...

Morrisons is perfectly viable, it just needs a board that cares about the business rather than a board that cares about lining their pockets.

They need to go back to their original values, stop trying to be something they are not, my local store cannot make its mind up whether its a supermarket, a clothes shop, a garden centre, a polish food shop or an asian food shop. the thing is within walking distance there is a high street full of quality clothes shops, several garden centres, a couple of excellent polish food shops and a fantastic asian supermarket.

What that tells me is that nobody in charge has ever looked at that store and the surrounding business and made a good business decision on what that store should be focusing on selling, every store is different, every store should fit the locality.

Instead of trying to be like every other supermarket out there Morrisons should be aiming to be different, be the innovator not the follower. That's what it used to be but somehow it lost its way, fell behind, now its playing catch up with the big boys.

One of the biggest failings was the online shopping, a team of five developers in a room could have prototyped that website in six months and had it up and running within twelve, it should have been done 5 years ago.

Home deliveries should have been done from the local supermarkets, small vans, local people, hand picked produce from the supermarkets themselves done by people who care, why copy everyone else with their deliveries from distribution centres by drivers with bad attitudes, why not do it differently and provide a first class quality service that shines brighter than the rest ? Sure it costs more to do that but better quality of service means happier customers which means better customer retention which means word gets around which increases your customer base - oh look I just described the old fashioned way of growing a business to increase your profits.
Morrisons is perfectly viable, it just needs a board that cares about the business rather than a board that cares about lining their pockets. They need to go back to their original values, stop trying to be something they are not, my local store cannot make its mind up whether its a supermarket, a clothes shop, a garden centre, a polish food shop or an asian food shop. the thing is within walking distance there is a high street full of quality clothes shops, several garden centres, a couple of excellent polish food shops and a fantastic asian supermarket. What that tells me is that nobody in charge has ever looked at that store and the surrounding business and made a good business decision on what that store should be focusing on selling, every store is different, every store should fit the locality. Instead of trying to be like every other supermarket out there Morrisons should be aiming to be different, be the innovator not the follower. That's what it used to be but somehow it lost its way, fell behind, now its playing catch up with the big boys. One of the biggest failings was the online shopping, a team of five developers in a room could have prototyped that website in six months and had it up and running within twelve, it should have been done 5 years ago. Home deliveries should have been done from the local supermarkets, small vans, local people, hand picked produce from the supermarkets themselves done by people who care, why copy everyone else with their deliveries from distribution centres by drivers with bad attitudes, why not do it differently and provide a first class quality service that shines brighter than the rest ? Sure it costs more to do that but better quality of service means happier customers which means better customer retention which means word gets around which increases your customer base - oh look I just described the old fashioned way of growing a business to increase your profits. Simon4567
  • Score: 2

11:30pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Tollerboy says...

ASDA are doing the same. Managers being made redundant, especially those over 40 yrs old.
Work is being passed down to supervisors. Just a way of "saving money" so they can continue to pay 'fat cat' salaries to those in the board room and maintain their dividends, of course. Sick!
ASDA are doing the same. Managers being made redundant, especially those over 40 yrs old. Work is being passed down to supervisors. Just a way of "saving money" so they can continue to pay 'fat cat' salaries to those in the board room and maintain their dividends, of course. Sick! Tollerboy
  • Score: 3

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