Huge rise in number of international visitors coming to Bradford

Huge rise in number of international visitors coming to Bradford

A busy Haworth Main street during the 1940's weekend.

A magnet for tourists, Cow and Calf rocks , Ilkley.

Councillor Susan Hinchcliffe at the Bradford Classic car show, with one of the sponsors, Tony Bhogal

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A HUGE rise in the number of international visitors coming to Bradford has been hailed as a "remarkable achievement" by tourism bosses.

The 'Tour de France effect' is thought to lie behind a 16 per cent rise in the number of people flocking to the district from all corners of the globe, with international tourism now worth an estimated £30 million to the local economy.

And Yorkshire's tourism chief says while the Grand Depart may have captured the world's attention this year, the district's top-class attractions like the Bronte Parsonage and the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway should keep visitors coming back time and time again.

Gary Verity, chief executive of Welcome to Yorkshire, said: “Bringing the world’s largest free sporting event to Yorkshire has already had a huge impact on the county – quite simply, our profile has never been higher.

"For Bradford to have a 16 per cent boost in international visitor numbers in 2013 is a remarkable achievement.

"While the Grand Depart has attracted attention, it is the world-class attractions and hospitality that make visitors stay longer and keep coming back - places like the National Media Museum, City Park, the Alhambra, Bronte Country, Keighley and Worth Valley Railway and many more really play a part in this.

“The Tour is estimated to inject £100 million into Yorkshire’s economy. Its value for business is immense."

International tourism brought £30 million into Bradford's economy alone in 2013, national tourism agency VisitBritain has revealed.

There were 82,000 visits to the Bradford district from overseas in 2013, up from 71,000 in 2012. In 2013 the Yorkshire region as a whole welcomed 1.2 million visits from overseas - an increase of 11.7 per cent on the previous year, which almost brings it back to 2008’s pre-recession record.

Councillor Susan Hinchcliffe, who oversees tourism for Bradford Council, welcomed the figures.

She said: "It is good news for the district, I am pleased to hear that. It shows that tourism is really valuable to the local economy."

Cllr Hinchcliffe said many cyclists were already visiting Yorkshire to try out the route for themselves, and said she expected tourism in the district to get an even bigger boost once the Tour arrived.

She said: "We are about to get millions of people visiting the district. Three-and-a-half billion people will be watching it on television.

"It is a major sporting event coming to our district not just once but twice, on consecutive days, and it is hopefully going to give an even bigger boost to the district than these figures today show."

VisitBritain is today [MON] unveiling a new digital poster campaign in Heathrow airport, promoting Yorkshire's countryside and architecture to its international passengers.

Joss Croft, marketing director of VisitBritain said: “This is Yorkshire’s time to shine. Building on the record spend figures across the region, we want to enhance the tourism opportunities surrounding the Grand Depart and inspire our international visitors to explore Britain as they pass through Heathrow airport.

“Our partnership with Heathrow will continue our promotional activity to ensure that the economic growth from tourism and the jobs that the industry delivers are spread right across the country.”

Mr Verity said there was now a real buzz about Yorkshire.

He said: "Word is spreading, people want to know about Yorkshire. We are seeing this at Welcome to Yorkshire where the team has been hosting at least one international press trip each week since Christmas as the media want to tell their viewers and their readers about the county.

"We think that once the thousands of international journalists and spectators have stayed here, they will fall in love with the beauty of Yorkshire and come back again and again.”

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7:10am Mon 16 Jun 14

Albion. says...

It SOUNDS impressive but how does it compare with the rest of the country?
Are the economy figure fact or just an estimate?
It SOUNDS impressive but how does it compare with the rest of the country? Are the economy figure fact or just an estimate? Albion.
  • Score: -2

7:10am Mon 16 Jun 14

OLDLAD says...

Overseas visitors = illegal immigrants/asylum seekers!
Overseas visitors = illegal immigrants/asylum seekers! OLDLAD
  • Score: -9

8:02am Mon 16 Jun 14

Blotto says...

With Australia no longer a soft option for economic migrants, illegals and bogus asylum seekers, they going to look at Europe and mainly the UK thanks mainly to the last Labour Government making so easy, funny that parallels the previous Oz Labor Government, but unlike the present UK one they have at least stopped it for the time being!
With Australia no longer a soft option for economic migrants, illegals and bogus asylum seekers, they going to look at Europe and mainly the UK thanks mainly to the last Labour Government making so easy, funny that parallels the previous Oz Labor Government, but unlike the present UK one they have at least stopped it for the time being! Blotto
  • Score: 0

8:05am Mon 16 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

when will they realise that the places they visit are only bradford by default.
if they had their way they wouldn't be!
tour de france bypasses bradford really.
they stick national media museum on the list but everybody knows figures are down!
got to justify her job somehow!
when will they realise that the places they visit are only bradford by default. if they had their way they wouldn't be! tour de france bypasses bradford really. they stick national media museum on the list but everybody knows figures are down! got to justify her job somehow! tinytoonster
  • Score: 7

8:06am Mon 16 Jun 14

OLDLAD says...

If you think it is bad now wait until albania gets the go ahead to join the eu. Cameron is going to vote yes on them joining.
If you think it is bad now wait until albania gets the go ahead to join the eu. Cameron is going to vote yes on them joining. OLDLAD
  • Score: -7

8:06am Mon 16 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

Blotto wrote:
With Australia no longer a soft option for economic migrants, illegals and bogus asylum seekers, they going to look at Europe and mainly the UK thanks mainly to the last Labour Government making so easy, funny that parallels the previous Oz Labor Government, but unlike the present UK one they have at least stopped it for the time being!
correct.
just wait for the responses from the labour supporters when they get up about 11am!
[quote][p][bold]Blotto[/bold] wrote: With Australia no longer a soft option for economic migrants, illegals and bogus asylum seekers, they going to look at Europe and mainly the UK thanks mainly to the last Labour Government making so easy, funny that parallels the previous Oz Labor Government, but unlike the present UK one they have at least stopped it for the time being![/p][/quote]correct. just wait for the responses from the labour supporters when they get up about 11am! tinytoonster
  • Score: 4

8:28am Mon 16 Jun 14

collos25 says...

The figures are meaningless no checks are made whatsoever to the route of foreign visitors let alone people coming from EU.The TdeF will have an effect on the region but this is a one off event and the prices that are being charged people will not come again.I paid a lot less in a Hotel in Paris than a run of the mill B&B is charging in Skipton .
The figures are meaningless no checks are made whatsoever to the route of foreign visitors let alone people coming from EU.The TdeF will have an effect on the region but this is a one off event and the prices that are being charged people will not come again.I paid a lot less in a Hotel in Paris than a run of the mill B&B is charging in Skipton . collos25
  • Score: -15

8:44am Mon 16 Jun 14

manure says...

trouble is, none of them have gone home
trouble is, none of them have gone home manure
  • Score: 27

9:01am Mon 16 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode???? tinytoonster
  • Score: -16

9:27am Mon 16 Jun 14

JAtkinson says...

A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow.

Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.
A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there. JAtkinson
  • Score: 35

9:33am Mon 16 Jun 14

JAtkinson says...

tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District. JAtkinson
  • Score: 16

9:48am Mon 16 Jun 14

Apollo says...

I would be a lot happier about the number going home.
I would be a lot happier about the number going home. Apollo
  • Score: 8

9:55am Mon 16 Jun 14

BertSanders says...

Good news - must be gardening enthusiasts.
Good news - must be gardening enthusiasts. BertSanders
  • Score: 7

10:03am Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 4

10:03am Mon 16 Jun 14

Bikerbeardy says...

JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be, Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 10

10:13am Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
[quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk. bcfc1903
  • Score: 7

10:20am Mon 16 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue. baildongreen
  • Score: 17

10:32am Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

JAtkinson wrote:
A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.
To be fair I think the report needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The 'HUGE' increase is pretty small in reality and as Albion says above, we have nothing to compare it to really. It would be interesting to see how Leeds was performing in comparison but that would put into perspective the 'HUGE' rise in Bradford. We don't even know what criteria was used to determine what a tourist is. If family from abroad visting relatives in Bradford are classed as tourists then it's no surprise that Bradford is performing well.
The negativity you speak of on 'positive' articles like this is understandable. Bradford Council are so quick to congratulate themselves over the slightest glimmer of positive news-I see the City Park is mentioned as a tourist attraction in the article- but in reality everything that is good in Bradford is good in spite of BDMC not because of.
I should also add that a huge percentage people that live within the Bradford district never go to Bradford city centre. Perhaps BDMC should focus their efforts an attracting these people to the city centre rather than blowing their own trumpet in the T&A about a spurious survey.
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.[/p][/quote]To be fair I think the report needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The 'HUGE' increase is pretty small in reality and as Albion says above, we have nothing to compare it to really. It would be interesting to see how Leeds was performing in comparison but that would put into perspective the 'HUGE' rise in Bradford. We don't even know what criteria was used to determine what a tourist is. If family from abroad visting relatives in Bradford are classed as tourists then it's no surprise that Bradford is performing well. The negativity you speak of on 'positive' articles like this is understandable. Bradford Council are so quick to congratulate themselves over the slightest glimmer of positive news-I see the City Park is mentioned as a tourist attraction in the article- but in reality everything that is good in Bradford is good in spite of BDMC not because of. I should also add that a huge percentage people that live within the Bradford district never go to Bradford city centre. Perhaps BDMC should focus their efforts an attracting these people to the city centre rather than blowing their own trumpet in the T&A about a spurious survey. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 2

11:03am Mon 16 Jun 14

bonoforpm says...

We have plenty of international visitors already , trouble is none of them want to go home
We have plenty of international visitors already , trouble is none of them want to go home bonoforpm
  • Score: 17

11:13am Mon 16 Jun 14

Bikerbeardy says...

bonoforpm wrote:
We have plenty of international visitors already , trouble is none of them want to go home
Its because it feels like home here!
[quote][p][bold]bonoforpm[/bold] wrote: We have plenty of international visitors already , trouble is none of them want to go home[/p][/quote]Its because it feels like home here! Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 5

11:24am Mon 16 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

Any boost, however transient, to Bradford’s battered, broken and backward economy has to be welcomed,

What is not to be welcomed is Cllr. Hinchcliffe’s preening in the reflected glory of other people’s efforts. The Tour’s coming to Yorkshire has everything to do to with the success of the Sky team and absolutely nothing to do with her efforts.

She has even failed to capitalise on the event by promoting inner Bradford’s one legitimate claim to fame, our tasty, albeit unhealthy, curries. As we saw with the Bradford Festival and the Apprenticeship scheme Cllr. Hinchcliffe is clearly out of her depth and needs to have her work load significantly reduced.
Any boost, however transient, to Bradford’s battered, broken and backward economy has to be welcomed, What is not to be welcomed is Cllr. Hinchcliffe’s preening in the reflected glory of other people’s efforts. The Tour’s coming to Yorkshire has everything to do to with the success of the Sky team and absolutely nothing to do with her efforts. She has even failed to capitalise on the event by promoting inner Bradford’s one legitimate claim to fame, our tasty, albeit unhealthy, curries. As we saw with the Bradford Festival and the Apprenticeship scheme Cllr. Hinchcliffe is clearly out of her depth and needs to have her work load significantly reduced. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 17

11:34am Mon 16 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Blotto wrote:
With Australia no longer a soft option for economic migrants, illegals and bogus asylum seekers, they going to look at Europe and mainly the UK thanks mainly to the last Labour Government making so easy, funny that parallels the previous Oz Labor Government, but unlike the present UK one they have at least stopped it for the time being!
correct.
just wait for the responses from the labour supporters when they get up about 11am!
It’s the lefties in these columns that have the harshest criticism for the Council. On top of everything else, it seems the Labour Group are ideological failures, totally lacking in principles.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blotto[/bold] wrote: With Australia no longer a soft option for economic migrants, illegals and bogus asylum seekers, they going to look at Europe and mainly the UK thanks mainly to the last Labour Government making so easy, funny that parallels the previous Oz Labor Government, but unlike the present UK one they have at least stopped it for the time being![/p][/quote]correct. just wait for the responses from the labour supporters when they get up about 11am![/p][/quote]It’s the lefties in these columns that have the harshest criticism for the Council. On top of everything else, it seems the Labour Group are ideological failures, totally lacking in principles. gouldengirl
  • Score: 22

12:25pm Mon 16 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”? izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 21

12:36pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?
Thats what I thought. I got half way through it and I was waiting for the punchline!
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?[/p][/quote]Thats what I thought. I got half way through it and I was waiting for the punchline! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 13

12:45pm Mon 16 Jun 14

alive and awake says...

bonoforpm wrote:
We have plenty of international visitors already , trouble is none of them want to go home
Exactly
[quote][p][bold]bonoforpm[/bold] wrote: We have plenty of international visitors already , trouble is none of them want to go home[/p][/quote]Exactly alive and awake
  • Score: 22

1:25pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Reality50 says...

These so called visitors will be either asylum seekers or immigrants or extended family members from Pakistan or similar Muslim countries. The public know the truth an headlines like this in the press try to convince people that Bradford attracts tourists like York or Stratford Upon Avon,it doesn't and never will. Sure,areas just outside the city attract tourists like Haarogate and Knaresborough and some may use Leeds Bradford airport but the headline is misleading to say the least.
These so called visitors will be either asylum seekers or immigrants or extended family members from Pakistan or similar Muslim countries. The public know the truth an headlines like this in the press try to convince people that Bradford attracts tourists like York or Stratford Upon Avon,it doesn't and never will. Sure,areas just outside the city attract tourists like Haarogate and Knaresborough and some may use Leeds Bradford airport but the headline is misleading to say the least. Reality50
  • Score: 18

1:27pm Mon 16 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.
To be fair I think the report needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The 'HUGE' increase is pretty small in reality and as Albion says above, we have nothing to compare it to really. It would be interesting to see how Leeds was performing in comparison but that would put into perspective the 'HUGE' rise in Bradford. We don't even know what criteria was used to determine what a tourist is. If family from abroad visting relatives in Bradford are classed as tourists then it's no surprise that Bradford is performing well.
The negativity you speak of on 'positive' articles like this is understandable. Bradford Council are so quick to congratulate themselves over the slightest glimmer of positive news-I see the City Park is mentioned as a tourist attraction in the article- but in reality everything that is good in Bradford is good in spite of BDMC not because of.
I should also add that a huge percentage people that live within the Bradford district never go to Bradford city centre. Perhaps BDMC should focus their efforts an attracting these people to the city centre rather than blowing their own trumpet in the T&A about a spurious survey.
If the figures had shown a decline in visitor numbers, me thinks there'd be no questioning of the figures - the usual suspects would be straight into gloat mode
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.[/p][/quote]To be fair I think the report needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The 'HUGE' increase is pretty small in reality and as Albion says above, we have nothing to compare it to really. It would be interesting to see how Leeds was performing in comparison but that would put into perspective the 'HUGE' rise in Bradford. We don't even know what criteria was used to determine what a tourist is. If family from abroad visting relatives in Bradford are classed as tourists then it's no surprise that Bradford is performing well. The negativity you speak of on 'positive' articles like this is understandable. Bradford Council are so quick to congratulate themselves over the slightest glimmer of positive news-I see the City Park is mentioned as a tourist attraction in the article- but in reality everything that is good in Bradford is good in spite of BDMC not because of. I should also add that a huge percentage people that live within the Bradford district never go to Bradford city centre. Perhaps BDMC should focus their efforts an attracting these people to the city centre rather than blowing their own trumpet in the T&A about a spurious survey.[/p][/quote]If the figures had shown a decline in visitor numbers, me thinks there'd be no questioning of the figures - the usual suspects would be straight into gloat mode linebacker2
  • Score: -2

1:30pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Reality50 says...

Also to include Haworth as a part of Bradford-and Ilkley for that matter-is laughable. Walk through the centre of Bradford and you won't see American,Australian or Japanese tourists. What you see are Pakistanis and Eastern European migrants. Sorry but that's the truth.
Also to include Haworth as a part of Bradford-and Ilkley for that matter-is laughable. Walk through the centre of Bradford and you won't see American,Australian or Japanese tourists. What you see are Pakistanis and Eastern European migrants. Sorry but that's the truth. Reality50
  • Score: 26

1:33pm Mon 16 Jun 14

BaildonGuy says...

bluebluerobin wrote:
Any boost, however transient, to Bradford’s battered, broken and backward economy has to be welcomed,

What is not to be welcomed is Cllr. Hinchcliffe’s preening in the reflected glory of other people’s efforts. The Tour’s coming to Yorkshire has everything to do to with the success of the Sky team and absolutely nothing to do with her efforts.

She has even failed to capitalise on the event by promoting inner Bradford’s one legitimate claim to fame, our tasty, albeit unhealthy, curries. As we saw with the Bradford Festival and the Apprenticeship scheme Cllr. Hinchcliffe is clearly out of her depth and needs to have her work load significantly reduced.
You forgot Buck Lane. Cllr. Hinchcliffe's acme of dishonoured commitments.
[quote][p][bold]bluebluerobin[/bold] wrote: Any boost, however transient, to Bradford’s battered, broken and backward economy has to be welcomed, What is not to be welcomed is Cllr. Hinchcliffe’s preening in the reflected glory of other people’s efforts. The Tour’s coming to Yorkshire has everything to do to with the success of the Sky team and absolutely nothing to do with her efforts. She has even failed to capitalise on the event by promoting inner Bradford’s one legitimate claim to fame, our tasty, albeit unhealthy, curries. As we saw with the Bradford Festival and the Apprenticeship scheme Cllr. Hinchcliffe is clearly out of her depth and needs to have her work load significantly reduced.[/p][/quote]You forgot Buck Lane. Cllr. Hinchcliffe's acme of dishonoured commitments. BaildonGuy
  • Score: 18

2:03pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

linebacker2 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
JAtkinson wrote: A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.
To be fair I think the report needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The 'HUGE' increase is pretty small in reality and as Albion says above, we have nothing to compare it to really. It would be interesting to see how Leeds was performing in comparison but that would put into perspective the 'HUGE' rise in Bradford. We don't even know what criteria was used to determine what a tourist is. If family from abroad visting relatives in Bradford are classed as tourists then it's no surprise that Bradford is performing well. The negativity you speak of on 'positive' articles like this is understandable. Bradford Council are so quick to congratulate themselves over the slightest glimmer of positive news-I see the City Park is mentioned as a tourist attraction in the article- but in reality everything that is good in Bradford is good in spite of BDMC not because of. I should also add that a huge percentage people that live within the Bradford district never go to Bradford city centre. Perhaps BDMC should focus their efforts an attracting these people to the city centre rather than blowing their own trumpet in the T&A about a spurious survey.
If the figures had shown a decline in visitor numbers, me thinks there'd be no questioning of the figures - the usual suspects would be straight into gloat mode
The biggest tourist attraction in Bradford is gradually losing visitors so it would not be at all surprising if Bradford generally is seeing declining numbers of tourists. Nothing changed between 2012 and 2013 that would attract an influx of tourist so the figures are questionable to say the least. From the Visit Britain website;

'It is very important to remember that information at the regional level is often based on very small sample sizes, and as such should be treated with extreme caution, and used solely as an indicative estimate. The International Passenger Survey is a national survey, and is not designed to be statistically robust at the regional level.'

So basically it's just a guess and don't take it seriously.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.[/p][/quote]To be fair I think the report needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The 'HUGE' increase is pretty small in reality and as Albion says above, we have nothing to compare it to really. It would be interesting to see how Leeds was performing in comparison but that would put into perspective the 'HUGE' rise in Bradford. We don't even know what criteria was used to determine what a tourist is. If family from abroad visting relatives in Bradford are classed as tourists then it's no surprise that Bradford is performing well. The negativity you speak of on 'positive' articles like this is understandable. Bradford Council are so quick to congratulate themselves over the slightest glimmer of positive news-I see the City Park is mentioned as a tourist attraction in the article- but in reality everything that is good in Bradford is good in spite of BDMC not because of. I should also add that a huge percentage people that live within the Bradford district never go to Bradford city centre. Perhaps BDMC should focus their efforts an attracting these people to the city centre rather than blowing their own trumpet in the T&A about a spurious survey.[/p][/quote]If the figures had shown a decline in visitor numbers, me thinks there'd be no questioning of the figures - the usual suspects would be straight into gloat mode[/p][/quote]The biggest tourist attraction in Bradford is gradually losing visitors so it would not be at all surprising if Bradford generally is seeing declining numbers of tourists. Nothing changed between 2012 and 2013 that would attract an influx of tourist so the figures are questionable to say the least. From the Visit Britain website; 'It is very important to remember that information at the regional level is often based on very small sample sizes, and as such should be treated with extreme caution, and used solely as an indicative estimate. The International Passenger Survey is a national survey, and is not designed to be statistically robust at the regional level.' So basically it's just a guess and don't take it seriously. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 4

2:21pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bachtothefuture says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
izzystillbreathing wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?
Thats what I thought. I got half way through it and I was waiting for the punchline!
Unfortunately the T&A's concept of balance (for every round the world yachtsman they have to find a representative of the flat earth society) means that this pap will be published.

From this, and similar comments, it should be clear that this drivel is coming from the Council’s press office. This is most unfair. The Council already command so much of the T&As editorial whilst we punters are limited to the odd paragraph in these posts or 200 words on the letters page.

Pretending that there is democracy whilst drowning its voices is a familiar ploy in totalitarian regimes everywhere, so we shouldn’t be surprised that City Hall is trying it on. It is up to the T&A to disown these tactics and ignore bcfc and her avatars.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?[/p][/quote]Thats what I thought. I got half way through it and I was waiting for the punchline![/p][/quote]Unfortunately the T&A's concept of balance (for every round the world yachtsman they have to find a representative of the flat earth society) means that this pap will be published. From this, and similar comments, it should be clear that this drivel is coming from the Council’s press office. This is most unfair. The Council already command so much of the T&As editorial whilst we punters are limited to the odd paragraph in these posts or 200 words on the letters page. Pretending that there is democracy whilst drowning its voices is a familiar ploy in totalitarian regimes everywhere, so we shouldn’t be surprised that City Hall is trying it on. It is up to the T&A to disown these tactics and ignore bcfc and her avatars. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 14

2:30pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011.
Compared with other towns in Yorkshire;

Leeds 299k
York 271k
Sheffield 151k

So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 30

2:39pm Mon 16 Jun 14

sorrow&anger says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011.
Compared with other towns in Yorkshire;

Leeds 299k
York 271k
Sheffield 151k

So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe.

Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 20

2:41pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Reality50 wrote:
Also to include Haworth as a part of Bradford-and Ilkley for that matter-is laughable. Walk through the centre of Bradford and you won't see American,Australian or Japanese tourists. What you see are Pakistanis and Eastern European migrants. Sorry but that's the truth.
There's no need to be saree.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Also to include Haworth as a part of Bradford-and Ilkley for that matter-is laughable. Walk through the centre of Bradford and you won't see American,Australian or Japanese tourists. What you see are Pakistanis and Eastern European migrants. Sorry but that's the truth.[/p][/quote]There's no need to be saree. Freddy Elliot
  • Score: 0

2:53pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it.
I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 15

3:02pm Mon 16 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it.
I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
Farsley that is a marvellous piece of work. Hopefully the T&A will learn to be a little bit more cautious of the Council's spin. I suppose an apology from Cllr Hinchcliffe and her familiar at bcfc1903 is out of the question.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article![/p][/quote]Farsley that is a marvellous piece of work. Hopefully the T&A will learn to be a little bit more cautious of the Council's spin. I suppose an apology from Cllr Hinchcliffe and her familiar at bcfc1903 is out of the question. gouldengirl
  • Score: 15

3:06pm Mon 16 Jun 14

BierleyBoy says...

Massively expensive, public funded body trying to justify it's existence and continued funding by producing a 'report' designed to tell us what an amazing job it is doing. No breakdown of where these 'visitors' come from & complete guesswork on how much they spend.

If they are coming to Bradford, they certainly aren't visiting NMM are they??
Massively expensive, public funded body trying to justify it's existence and continued funding by producing a 'report' designed to tell us what an amazing job it is doing. No breakdown of where these 'visitors' come from & complete guesswork on how much they spend. If they are coming to Bradford, they certainly aren't visiting NMM are they?? BierleyBoy
  • Score: 6

3:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

justjustice says...

Bloody foreigners, coming here looking at our stuff and spending their money!
Bloody foreigners, coming here looking at our stuff and spending their money! justjustice
  • Score: -12

3:28pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it.
I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
You've certainly covered yourself in glory today. It's a real shame that the Council feels that they have to manufacture good news stories. It'll be interesting to see if the T&A publish a correction. It'll be even more interesting to see if Cllr Hinchcliffe has anything to say.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article![/p][/quote]You've certainly covered yourself in glory today. It's a real shame that the Council feels that they have to manufacture good news stories. It'll be interesting to see if the T&A publish a correction. It'll be even more interesting to see if Cllr Hinchcliffe has anything to say. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 12

3:35pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
Massively expensive, public funded body trying to justify it's existence and continued funding by producing a 'report' designed to tell us what an amazing job it is doing. No breakdown of where these 'visitors' come from & complete guesswork on how much they spend. If they are coming to Bradford, they certainly aren't visiting NMM are they??
Numbers in thousands. I assume other is Pakistan.

Other 20
Poland 15
France 10
Germany 8
Netherlands 6
UAE 4
Australia 3
Canada 3
Ireland 3
Switzerland 2
Spain 1
USA 1
Hungary 1
India 1
Denmark 1
Norway 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Greece 1

Its also worth noting that the sample size is just 97 people!
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: Massively expensive, public funded body trying to justify it's existence and continued funding by producing a 'report' designed to tell us what an amazing job it is doing. No breakdown of where these 'visitors' come from & complete guesswork on how much they spend. If they are coming to Bradford, they certainly aren't visiting NMM are they??[/p][/quote]Numbers in thousands. I assume other is Pakistan. Other 20 Poland 15 France 10 Germany 8 Netherlands 6 UAE 4 Australia 3 Canada 3 Ireland 3 Switzerland 2 Spain 1 USA 1 Hungary 1 India 1 Denmark 1 Norway 1 New Zealand 1 Sweden 1 Greece 1 Its also worth noting that the sample size is just 97 people! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 5

3:38pm Mon 16 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

bluebluerobin wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
You've certainly covered yourself in glory today. It's a real shame that the Council feels that they have to manufacture good news stories. It'll be interesting to see if the T&A publish a correction. It'll be even more interesting to see if Cllr Hinchcliffe has anything to say.
You wonder how many of the "visitors" will return once their VISAs have expired. T and A needs to look beyond the headline figure and report back if it is to have any credibility. Just now if these underlying figures are correct no one is coming out with any credit.
[quote][p][bold]bluebluerobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article![/p][/quote]You've certainly covered yourself in glory today. It's a real shame that the Council feels that they have to manufacture good news stories. It'll be interesting to see if the T&A publish a correction. It'll be even more interesting to see if Cllr Hinchcliffe has anything to say.[/p][/quote]You wonder how many of the "visitors" will return once their VISAs have expired. T and A needs to look beyond the headline figure and report back if it is to have any credibility. Just now if these underlying figures are correct no one is coming out with any credit. whisky1
  • Score: 6

3:47pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it.
I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
You don't think bcfc (Bradford Council's Fat Controller?) is actually the Hoffster having one of his games? I mean nobody can be that sycophantic and still live with themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article![/p][/quote]You don't think bcfc (Bradford Council's Fat Controller?) is actually the Hoffster having one of his games? I mean nobody can be that sycophantic and still live with themselves. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 0

3:52pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Robin of Loxley says...

They were probably on their way to Leeds.
They were probably on their way to Leeds. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 3

3:56pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
They were probably on their way to Leeds.
Hi Hoffster, welcome to the thread. Is that you pretending to be bcfc?
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: They were probably on their way to Leeds.[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, welcome to the thread. Is that you pretending to be bcfc? Grumpygirl
  • Score: 2

4:00pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bone_idle18 says...

you're all being a bit unfair to the council! Of course Benefits tourism and Health tourism should be counted as proper tourism. :) lol
you're all being a bit unfair to the council! Of course Benefits tourism and Health tourism should be counted as proper tourism. :) lol Bone_idle18
  • Score: 7

4:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

SinnerSaint says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it.
I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
You don't think bcfc (Bradford Council's Fat Controller?) is actually the Hoffster having one of his games? I mean nobody can be that sycophantic and still live with themselves.
Christ Grumpy, I just thumbed up one of your comments!! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article![/p][/quote]You don't think bcfc (Bradford Council's Fat Controller?) is actually the Hoffster having one of his games? I mean nobody can be that sycophantic and still live with themselves.[/p][/quote]Christ Grumpy, I just thumbed up one of your comments!! ;-) SinnerSaint
  • Score: -5

4:50pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
Grumpygirl wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.
Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.
It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it.
I notice nobody has put their name to this article!
You don't think bcfc (Bradford Council's Fat Controller?) is actually the Hoffster having one of his games? I mean nobody can be that sycophantic and still live with themselves.
Christ Grumpy, I just thumbed up one of your comments!! ;-)
Thank you very much. I'm always appreciative of support.

OK, maybe not the Hoffster, I'll say sorry, but I just can't believe that bcfc is a real person.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: I've just downloaded the data and it's a total sham. Of the 82,000 visitors just 16,000 are actual tourists. 33,000 are visting family and 32,000 came on business. 20,000 came from Pakistan and 15,000 from Poland. Total visitor numbers are still down on 2011. Compared with other towns in Yorkshire; Leeds 299k York 271k Sheffield 151k So much cherry picking of the statistics in the article.[/p][/quote]Well done!. Another City Hall lie nailed. Is it any wonder nobody believes a word they say or has any faith in their spokespersons (bcfc) or representatives like Cllr. Hinchcliffe. Why didn't the T&A do its own bit of checking? They just seem to swallow anything City Hall tells them. Lies and all.[/p][/quote]It literally took 5 minutes to download and read throught the data. A bit of a poor do that someone who is being paid to write about it either can't be ar$ed to read it or didn't understand it. I notice nobody has put their name to this article![/p][/quote]You don't think bcfc (Bradford Council's Fat Controller?) is actually the Hoffster having one of his games? I mean nobody can be that sycophantic and still live with themselves.[/p][/quote]Christ Grumpy, I just thumbed up one of your comments!! ;-)[/p][/quote]Thank you very much. I'm always appreciative of support. OK, maybe not the Hoffster, I'll say sorry, but I just can't believe that bcfc is a real person. Grumpygirl
  • Score: -9

7:03pm Mon 16 Jun 14

i'dliketosay says...

justjustice wrote:
Bloody foreigners, coming here looking at our stuff and spending their money!
They should keep their money and spend it in 'nice' places.
The whinge police are on duty and anything written positively about Bradford is subjected to their interrogation resulting in negative, racist and derogatory comments.
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Bloody foreigners, coming here looking at our stuff and spending their money![/p][/quote]They should keep their money and spend it in 'nice' places. The whinge police are on duty and anything written positively about Bradford is subjected to their interrogation resulting in negative, racist and derogatory comments. i'dliketosay
  • Score: 2

7:22pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is. bcfc1903
  • Score: -5

7:25pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?
This is mindless dishonest and worthy of North Korea, obviously you've been well schooled in the art of typing complete ****!!!
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]This is mindless, dishonest, cheer-leading worthy of North Korea. How much longer before you start calling Councillor Green “dear leader”?[/p][/quote]This is mindless dishonest and worthy of North Korea, obviously you've been well schooled in the art of typing complete ****!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -4

7:30pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -6

7:39pm Mon 16 Jun 14

justjustice says...

i'dliketosay wrote:
justjustice wrote:
Bloody foreigners, coming here looking at our stuff and spending their money!
They should keep their money and spend it in 'nice' places.
The whinge police are on duty and anything written positively about Bradford is subjected to their interrogation resulting in negative, racist and derogatory comments.
The sarcasm in this one is very weak.
[quote][p][bold]i'dliketosay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Bloody foreigners, coming here looking at our stuff and spending their money![/p][/quote]They should keep their money and spend it in 'nice' places. The whinge police are on duty and anything written positively about Bradford is subjected to their interrogation resulting in negative, racist and derogatory comments.[/p][/quote]The sarcasm in this one is very weak. justjustice
  • Score: -3

7:47pm Mon 16 Jun 14

izzystillbreathing says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Why are you repeating yourself? This is exactly the same rubbish as in your post at 10:03 this morning. Since then you have been caught fibbing and along with Cllr. Hinchcliffe made to look very foolish.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Why are you repeating yourself? This is exactly the same rubbish as in your post at 10:03 this morning. Since then you have been caught fibbing and along with Cllr. Hinchcliffe made to look very foolish. izzystillbreathing
  • Score: 8

7:52pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

izzystillbreathing wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Why are you repeating yourself? This is exactly the same rubbish as in your post at 10:03 this morning. Since then you have been caught fibbing and along with Cllr. Hinchcliffe made to look very foolish.
I'll repeat stuff if I choose to, I take it you'd like to censor my posts?

I like it, it also has Yorkshire Stone incorporated into it's facade. Obviously students bring cash into the city and this building is a small part of the overall regeneration of Bradford. Great job!!
[quote][p][bold]izzystillbreathing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Why are you repeating yourself? This is exactly the same rubbish as in your post at 10:03 this morning. Since then you have been caught fibbing and along with Cllr. Hinchcliffe made to look very foolish.[/p][/quote]I'll repeat stuff if I choose to, I take it you'd like to censor my posts? I like it, it also has Yorkshire Stone incorporated into it's facade. Obviously students bring cash into the city and this building is a small part of the overall regeneration of Bradford. Great job!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -12

7:52pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

I like it, it also has Yorkshire Stone incorporated into it's facade. Obviously students bring cash into the city and this building is a small part of the overall regeneration of Bradford. Great job!!
I like it, it also has Yorkshire Stone incorporated into it's facade. Obviously students bring cash into the city and this building is a small part of the overall regeneration of Bradford. Great job!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -7

7:58pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -12

8:21pm Mon 16 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Have you thought of seeing a doctor?
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Have you thought of seeing a doctor? gouldengirl
  • Score: 9

8:35pm Mon 16 Jun 14

SurprisedByJoyce says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”. SurprisedByJoyce
  • Score: 5

9:07pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

gouldengirl wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Have you thought of seeing a doctor?
Who....
[quote][p][bold]gouldengirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Have you thought of seeing a doctor?[/p][/quote]Who.... bcfc1903
  • Score: -7

9:16pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -7

10:37pm Mon 16 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
crank.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]crank. tinytoonster
  • Score: 3

10:43pm Mon 16 Jun 14

sorrow&anger says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times.

What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings.

The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio
n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times. What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings. The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe. sorrow&anger
  • Score: -2

9:09am Tue 17 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times.

What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings.

The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio

n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.
So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh .


I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times. What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings. The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.[/p][/quote]So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh . I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -4

7:53pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times.

What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings.

The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio


n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.
So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh .


I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Loser
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times. What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings. The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.[/p][/quote]So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh . I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Loser Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: 5

3:42am Wed 18 Jun 14

khalidmalikbadass says...

Lots of my family come to bradford from pakistan but is not bcos is better than london but is cheap to get living costs and good for community mosque/shop/clothes so diffrant reason its poular
Lots of my family come to bradford from pakistan but is not bcos is better than london but is cheap to get living costs and good for community mosque/shop/clothes so diffrant reason its poular khalidmalikbadass
  • Score: -2

9:01am Wed 18 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times.

What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings.

The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio


n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.
So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh .


I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
bump
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times. What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings. The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.[/p][/quote]So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh . I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]bump bcfc1903
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Sat 21 Jun 14

sinking fast says...

JAtkinson wrote:
A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow.

Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.
I live in Undercliffe. I know what this once great city had to offer. Now there's more gangsters than Capone in Chicago had, and not a bobby in sight. Celebrate that.
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: A massively positive story (just like the weekend's Bradford Festival story) rubbished with bizarrely off topic, snide comments. Why is this? Bradford does not have enough to celebrate and could, actually should, have more, but when there is something positive, it surprises me that people so interested and involved in Bradford's past, present and future have to belittle, mock and undermine what we have in the comments section. The usual suspect, clubbing together and playing a game of one-upmanship to see who can vomit the most offensive, rude, ignorant, pessimistic and ill-conceived comment (with bonus points for crowbarring in race and / or asylum seekers in such a hamfisted way that most Daily Mail readers would scoff), might find their opinions tempered somewhat if they stepped out from behind their keyboards, walked outside and joined in with what's good about our district. They might then be able to see that, rather than a cesspit of hell-fire, Bradford does have some things worth celebrating, and they could then unleash their acerbic wit on the elements which arguably deserve the unswerving, blinkered ridicule in which they specialise and wallow. Back on topic, though, I am really pleased that so many more people are seeing what we have to offer and are experiencing our best bits. It would be wonderful if this jump leads to further investment, public and private, in Bradford District. I also hope that such positive news stories (as with the Bradford Festival one) will encourage visitors from closer to home, including those who live here but don't get out and enjoy our landscape and attractions that often. A great place to start would be the World Curry Festival and Poetry in the City events which are in Bradford this weekend. I very much hope to see you there.[/p][/quote]I live in Undercliffe. I know what this once great city had to offer. Now there's more gangsters than Capone in Chicago had, and not a bobby in sight. Celebrate that. sinking fast
  • Score: 1

10:12am Mon 23 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
baildongreen wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bikerbeardy wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????
The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.
How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!.

Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,
Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.
No.

The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.
Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.
Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough.

I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times.

What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings.

The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio



n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.
So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh .


I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!!
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bump
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bikerbeardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: picture of ilkley, leeds postcode????[/p][/quote]The main picture is Haworth, another is the city centre and the final one is in Ilkley, which has an LS postcode, an Otley dialing code, but is in Bradford Metropolitan District.[/p][/quote]How wide the Bradford council district reaches, Ilkley has a fantastic amount of tourists every year, also Haworth, Otley, Worth Valley Railway etc, bumps up the visitors stats to Bradford Metropolitan District. so yes we are about to get millions of visitors to the "district" because of the Tour De France, but they are not coming to Bradford really, are they!. Tinytoonster hit the nail on the head, places are in Bradford by default, none of them would want to be,[/p][/quote]Bradford was expanded in 1974 as were cities such as Leeds and Sheffield, so the tour is actually coming to Bradford. that's why Bradford and Leeds has a combined population of around 1,273,000 folk.[/p][/quote]No. The Tour is not coming to inner ring road Bradford which the Council has failed to regenerate. The Tour is coming to the green outskirts that the Council want to build over to boost their revenue.[/p][/quote]Right and Wrong, the tour isn't coming into the centre of Bradford which the council is regenerating at present. The question asked was whether the tour was coming to Bradford, plainly it is.[/p][/quote]I’m sure you are sincere in your belief that the Council is regenerating inner Bradford. However those of us who have to drive through Bradford just about every day of our lives would equally sincerely want to question your conviction. Compared with 60 years ago the place has progressed backwards, most of it due to Council inspired “improvements”.[/p][/quote]Not this council though, I agree there have been some poor decisions made going back many years regarding various Bradford Councils. Kris Hopkins- Hole was pretty appalling as was his council as was Pickles. I certainly wasn't impressed with Greenwood. The idea that the present council isn't a vast improvement on those three mentioned is clearly ludicrous. Folk say what they want on these threads, and that's what I'm going to do. If folk don't like it, tough. I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi bcfc. I think you'll find on these threads that the denizens don't mind strong views forcefully expressed. If they don't agree with you then you'll just end up with loads of thumbs down, especially from the web mechanics who know how to vote multiple times. What doesn't go down too well is cant: and I'm afraid your adulation of the present Council has to be regarded as grade A cow droppings. The reason people get so angry is that they love this city and can't stand what has been done to it by one idiot Council after the next. Objectively the present administration is just continuing in this noble tradition. We are still bottom of every league table going. Our joblessness,educatio n, poverty, crime and dereliction are a national disgrace that producing glossy reports won't cure. And that's with all due respect to Gary, who we've heard so much about today, and Cllr. 'Buck Lane' Hinchcliffe.[/p][/quote]So what, I think the present Bradford Council is one of the best if not the best Bradford's had, certainly post 2nd world war. Thumbs down thumbs up who cares. As for league tables, I guess that depends what figures you use to compile them. I need to look at what being used to compile them before agreeing that Bradford is the bottom of every league table which is as it stands a throw away comment and is complete tosh . I think Gary's done a great job in his capacity as CEO of Welcome to Yorkshire, credit where credits due, a 16% rise in overseas visitors is staggering and and that's just in Bradford, along with Bradford Council a fantastic job has been done. I'm quite sure Leeds and York will also be showing large increases in visitors from all parts of the globe. Well done Gary, great job locally in Bradford and a great job for the whole of Yorkshire!!!!!![/p][/quote]bump[/p][/quote]bump bcfc1903
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