Is Bradford really one the unhappiest places in the UK? You're having a laugh!

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Bradfordians looking happy enough in City Park Bradfordians looking happy enough in City Park

Reasons to be cheerful about Bradford - in 10 parts (click here for more)

 

Bradfordians have leapt to the defence of the city after it was ranked as the 13th unhappiest place to live in the UK.

Bradford finished as the 98th happiest place out of 111 towns and cities in the UK and also tenth in Yorkshire in a survey released yesterday..

London boroughs made up the entire bottom ten, with East London at the foot of the table, with Bradford finishing just behind North West London in 99th and Wolverhampton 100th on the list.

According to the research carried out by property firm Rightmove, Yorkshire spa town Harrogate was voted the happiest place to live.

A Happy At Home survey asked more than 47,000 homeowners how they felt about 12 factors, including safety, neighbourliness, amenities and their property.

Bradfordians have defended their city, saying that there are reasons to be cheerful, including the National Media Museum, Alhambra Theatre, St George’s Hall and the upcoming Westfield shopping centre.

David Ward MP (Lib Dem, Bradford East), said: “I’m surprised by the findings of this survey.

“When you talk about Bradford district, for instance, two thirds of it is rural. I think it’s a pretty good place to live for most people.

“People like its diversity.”

“Bradford has got a lot of things going for it. When I talk to people from Bradford, they are quite proud of the city.”

Bradford Council leader David Green said: “I still love the place.

“I don’t take a great deal of seriousness to these sorts of surveys.

“By and large, people in Bradford are fairly content. They will raise their concerns and problems, the same as anywhere else.

“You have to look at the bigger picture than just about your home.”

Tony Whiteley, co-owner of Centenary News in Market Street, Bradford agreed, defending the happiness of the city’s residents.

He said: “I’m very surprised by where Bradford has finished. The majority of people I have come across are happy here. I would disagree with that survey entirely.”

What You Think

  • “I’m happy enough. There are worse places to live. There is all of the Westfield development going on. I’m proud to come from here.”

- Terry Britton, 71, retired, of Broadfield Close, Bradford

  • “It’s wrong. Everybody is happy here. There is a lot to do here too. There is more going on than people realise.”

Jessica Sykes, 17, a student, of Parkhead Close, Woodside, Bradford

  • “I don’t think it’s right that we are that low down.We didn’t used to have anything before.There is more for the kids to do in Bradford.

Nicola Richmond, 18, student, of Kilnsea Mount, Bradford

  • “I would agree with the survey, I don’t think it’s a happy place really. I see loads of unhappy faces here. I think Leeds is more vibrant.”

William Carty, 41, chef, of Vere Square, Bradford

  • “People are the salt of the earth here. People warned me when I moved here that Bradford was a dump, but I don’t think that’s the case.”

Shazia Iqbal, 44, a screenwriter, of Cote Farm, Bradford

  • “If we are such an unhappy city, why do we still get people coming here to visit?“Bradford has gone through a bad phase, but that is changing.”

Javed Khan, 46, chief executive officer, of Haworth Road, Bradford

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6:11am Thu 22 May 14

Mike Strutter says...

Surprised the T & A have opened up comments on here.

Light blue touch paper .........go people !
Surprised the T & A have opened up comments on here. Light blue touch paper .........go people ! Mike Strutter
  • Score: 41

7:02am Thu 22 May 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

When you use the upcoming Westfield site as a reason to be cheerful you know your grasping at straws.

Funny how the same people who oppose reports like this are the same people who then go on about cuts to funding making unemployment rise and say wages are to low etc.

Which way is it? Are people happy or are people not working or underpaid, you can't claim both depending on the report released.

At least BCAFC brought lots of joy to the City last year, a true positive.
When you use the upcoming Westfield site as a reason to be cheerful you know your grasping at straws. Funny how the same people who oppose reports like this are the same people who then go on about cuts to funding making unemployment rise and say wages are to low etc. Which way is it? Are people happy or are people not working or underpaid, you can't claim both depending on the report released. At least BCAFC brought lots of joy to the City last year, a true positive. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 22

7:17am Thu 22 May 14

Albion. says...

If you've left some third world heap and landed in the utopia that is Bradford, your happiness must be boundless.
If you've left some third world heap and landed in the utopia that is Bradford, your happiness must be boundless. Albion.
  • Score: 54

8:34am Thu 22 May 14

alive and awake says...

Anyone born and bred in this City, who owns their own property, watching their children and grandchildren trying to make a life in this City, has nothing to be happy about. A City where gunmen fire willy nilly in the streets injuring people, and the police express a concern fgs. have nothing to be happy about. where Eastern Europeans hold bonfires and drink n the garden getting abusive with anyone who complains has nothing to be happy about .I could go on and on and on.
Anyone born and bred in this City, who owns their own property, watching their children and grandchildren trying to make a life in this City, has nothing to be happy about. A City where gunmen fire willy nilly in the streets injuring people, and the police express a concern fgs. have nothing to be happy about. where Eastern Europeans hold bonfires and drink n the garden getting abusive with anyone who complains has nothing to be happy about .I could go on and on and on. alive and awake
  • Score: 67

8:45am Thu 22 May 14

angry bradfordian says...

Bradford Council leader David Green said: “I still love the place.
“I don’t take a great deal of seriousness to these sorts of surveys.

What he actually means is that he doesn't take any seriousness from surveys that portray bad news and prefers to bury his head in the sand.
I'd say that a 47,000 person survey is pretty extensive (interestingly only 1,753 people voted for Green the last time he was elected)

A visit to Harrogate makes it pretty obvious that the ambiance of the place is much better than Bradford. Admittedly it costs a lot more to live there, but this wasn't a survey about value for money.
Bradford Council leader David Green said: “I still love the place. “I don’t take a great deal of seriousness to these sorts of surveys. What he actually means is that he doesn't take any seriousness from surveys that portray bad news and prefers to bury his head in the sand. I'd say that a 47,000 person survey is pretty extensive (interestingly only 1,753 people voted for Green the last time he was elected) A visit to Harrogate makes it pretty obvious that the ambiance of the place is much better than Bradford. Admittedly it costs a lot more to live there, but this wasn't a survey about value for money. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 38

8:46am Thu 22 May 14

cibasteve says...

Who the hell holds surveys like this?
Bet it's someone who's never been near the place before and are so unhappy with their life they have to drag others down with them.
Who the hell holds surveys like this? Bet it's someone who's never been near the place before and are so unhappy with their life they have to drag others down with them. cibasteve
  • Score: -27

8:49am Thu 22 May 14

Raj2121 says...

Thats 100 percent true, by puting that city park there wont make any difrence, neither will westfield as you will have dossers hanging around pestering women for phone numbers, bradford is the unhappiest place to live in.
Thats 100 percent true, by puting that city park there wont make any difrence, neither will westfield as you will have dossers hanging around pestering women for phone numbers, bradford is the unhappiest place to live in. Raj2121
  • Score: 30

9:09am Thu 22 May 14

sorrow&anger says...

Bradford was a deserved second in the Cr@p Towns list and habitually finds itself at the wrong end of every national league table that's ever published.

Despite the desperate attempts to whitewash over this survey it rings true. Bradford will never be a great place until City Hall actually acknowledges that there are problems and gets off its backside and decides to do something about them. That is something apart from talking and publishing pretty brochures.
Bradford was a deserved second in the Cr@p Towns list and habitually finds itself at the wrong end of every national league table that's ever published. Despite the desperate attempts to whitewash over this survey it rings true. Bradford will never be a great place until City Hall actually acknowledges that there are problems and gets off its backside and decides to do something about them. That is something apart from talking and publishing pretty brochures. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 64

9:19am Thu 22 May 14

JAtkinson says...

Fantastic countryside, broadly pleasant and friendly people, City Park, several great museums, KWVR, good restaurants (and great curry), affordable housing, a mix of peoples, I could go on and on... Bradford has a lot to be cheerful about. I love living here.

It is true that it has its problems, and one of the main one is people from Bradford whinging on here instead of doing something. Luckily, we have a vocal minority who don't speak for the silent majority. There are far, far worse places to live in the world and in this country. I'm glad I'm in Bradford.
Fantastic countryside, broadly pleasant and friendly people, City Park, several great museums, KWVR, good restaurants (and great curry), affordable housing, a mix of peoples, I could go on and on... Bradford has a lot to be cheerful about. I love living here. It is true that it has its problems, and one of the main one is people from Bradford whinging on here instead of doing something. Luckily, we have a vocal minority who don't speak for the silent majority. There are far, far worse places to live in the world and in this country. I'm glad I'm in Bradford. JAtkinson
  • Score: -21

9:22am Thu 22 May 14

pcmanners says...

How can people be happy in City that has been taken over by foreigners?
How can people be happy in City that has been taken over by foreigners? pcmanners
  • Score: -12

9:41am Thu 22 May 14

City gent says...

pcmanners wrote:
How can people be happy in City that has been taken over by foreigners?
I travel round England quite a bit and bradford is a disgrace
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: How can people be happy in City that has been taken over by foreigners?[/p][/quote]I travel round England quite a bit and bradford is a disgrace City gent
  • Score: 52

9:48am Thu 22 May 14

Old Dave says...

the interesting thing here is that some people seem surprised by the public comments from the politicians. The council leader and a Lib Dem MP think that the survey is inaccurate because it doesnt show Bradford in a good light. If they accepted it's findings they would be accepting their own inability to sort it out. It would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

Just another thing. Is the survey talking about Bradford as a Postcode area? just as a City, or as a metropolitan district?

Bradford, the city is a place that is rife with poverty and has been ravaged by many factors over the years, but accelerated by the recession.

Places Like Haworth, Baildon, Bingley, and other outlying areas that are part of Bradford MDC or have BD postcodes are very nice, but, and this is a key consideration. How many of these people want to be, or admit to living in Bradford? If they could detach themselves from any association with Bradford they would.
I'm 37 and have never lived anywhere else. I grew up on an estate and now I live in a nice area and have a good job. To say it as an immigration issue is over simplifying it. its about lots more. Its about poor investment in young people, producing young people who have no job prospects, about having areas ( inhabited by both immigrant and indigenous populations) that are lawless and rife with crime fed by addiction and a lack of hope and aspiration. In fact, its just like any other inner city that in the past relied upon manufacturing industries to be prosperous.
the interesting thing here is that some people seem surprised by the public comments from the politicians. The council leader and a Lib Dem MP think that the survey is inaccurate because it doesnt show Bradford in a good light. If they accepted it's findings they would be accepting their own inability to sort it out. It would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas. Just another thing. Is the survey talking about Bradford as a Postcode area? just as a City, or as a metropolitan district? Bradford, the city is a place that is rife with poverty and has been ravaged by many factors over the years, but accelerated by the recession. Places Like Haworth, Baildon, Bingley, and other outlying areas that are part of Bradford MDC or have BD postcodes are very nice, but, and this is a key consideration. How many of these people want to be, or admit to living in Bradford? If they could detach themselves from any association with Bradford they would. I'm 37 and have never lived anywhere else. I grew up on an estate and now I live in a nice area and have a good job. To say it as an immigration issue is over simplifying it. its about lots more. Its about poor investment in young people, producing young people who have no job prospects, about having areas ( inhabited by both immigrant and indigenous populations) that are lawless and rife with crime fed by addiction and a lack of hope and aspiration. In fact, its just like any other inner city that in the past relied upon manufacturing industries to be prosperous. Old Dave
  • Score: 69

9:51am Thu 22 May 14

AndyWineHands says...

If you ask the people of Ilkley, Haworth, Saltaire and Cottingley it is likley that you will get a big happy smiling face saying how much they love Bradford. If you ask the residents of Ravenscliffe, Manningham, Windhill or someone who lives at the top of a tower block with very little hope of social mobility then yes, there is a likleyhood they will be pretty unhappy.

There are good and bad areas of any city district. This is a survey done by a property website, I wouldn't read too much into it and I don't think there is any reason for the racist language above.
If you ask the people of Ilkley, Haworth, Saltaire and Cottingley it is likley that you will get a big happy smiling face saying how much they love Bradford. If you ask the residents of Ravenscliffe, Manningham, Windhill or someone who lives at the top of a tower block with very little hope of social mobility then yes, there is a likleyhood they will be pretty unhappy. There are good and bad areas of any city district. This is a survey done by a property website, I wouldn't read too much into it and I don't think there is any reason for the racist language above. AndyWineHands
  • Score: 30

10:02am Thu 22 May 14

FinlandStation says...

JAtkinson wrote:
Fantastic countryside, broadly pleasant and friendly people, City Park, several great museums, KWVR, good restaurants (and great curry), affordable housing, a mix of peoples, I could go on and on... Bradford has a lot to be cheerful about. I love living here.

It is true that it has its problems, and one of the main one is people from Bradford whinging on here instead of doing something. Luckily, we have a vocal minority who don't speak for the silent majority. There are far, far worse places to live in the world and in this country. I'm glad I'm in Bradford.
This is pathetic. Why is it on occasions like this somebody always comes forward to speak on behalf of the 'silent majority'. A majority which always seems to be on the side of the authorities and laissez faire. An excuse to do nothing, which is just what the Council want to hear.

Open your eyes. Bradford is a derelict dump. Just about everything is sub-standard, education, health, transport, unemployment, public hygiene, … Read the T&A if you don't believe me.

Until people understand that Bradford has serious problems and demand action, nothing will be done either for the voices of dissent or the 'silent majority'. Bradford will continue being a miserable wasteland.
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: Fantastic countryside, broadly pleasant and friendly people, City Park, several great museums, KWVR, good restaurants (and great curry), affordable housing, a mix of peoples, I could go on and on... Bradford has a lot to be cheerful about. I love living here. It is true that it has its problems, and one of the main one is people from Bradford whinging on here instead of doing something. Luckily, we have a vocal minority who don't speak for the silent majority. There are far, far worse places to live in the world and in this country. I'm glad I'm in Bradford.[/p][/quote]This is pathetic. Why is it on occasions like this somebody always comes forward to speak on behalf of the 'silent majority'. A majority which always seems to be on the side of the authorities and laissez faire. An excuse to do nothing, which is just what the Council want to hear. Open your eyes. Bradford is a derelict dump. Just about everything is sub-standard, education, health, transport, unemployment, public hygiene, … Read the T&A if you don't believe me. Until people understand that Bradford has serious problems and demand action, nothing will be done either for the voices of dissent or the 'silent majority'. Bradford will continue being a miserable wasteland. FinlandStation
  • Score: 53

10:39am Thu 22 May 14

stiflers mom says...

York railway museum had an increase of 200,000 visitors in the last year Bratfud media museum has had a decrease of 13,000....nuff said
York railway museum had an increase of 200,000 visitors in the last year Bratfud media museum has had a decrease of 13,000....nuff said stiflers mom
  • Score: 29

10:49am Thu 22 May 14

ohgreat3 says...

I used to like Bradford until I bought a house in a largely asian part of town and as an ethnic minority person (white) had bricks thrown through my windows, regularly had rubbish piled up outside my home or thrown into my back ..including dirty nappies, had two vehicles destroyed..one burned another completely vandalized, people standing outside my house shouting abuse at me or on the street or being threatened, wheely bins deliberately left outside my house for 3-4 days ect ect ect you get the picture
I used to like Bradford until I bought a house in a largely asian part of town and as an ethnic minority person (white) had bricks thrown through my windows, regularly had rubbish piled up outside my home or thrown into my back ..including dirty nappies, had two vehicles destroyed..one burned another completely vandalized, people standing outside my house shouting abuse at me or on the street or being threatened, wheely bins deliberately left outside my house for 3-4 days ect ect ect you get the picture ohgreat3
  • Score: -5

12:22pm Thu 22 May 14

saleemy says...

At least we got something to smile and be proud of, how we always do bad in surveys.
:)
At least we got something to smile and be proud of, how we always do bad in surveys. :) saleemy
  • Score: 23

12:30pm Thu 22 May 14

alive and awake says...

Another thing that makes me unhappy living in Bradford, just look at some of the headlines in todays T&A. police clamping down on Heavies and bullies, fgs. it's like elections in banana republics or Pakistan. It is becoming the norm in our City. People afraid to campaign for their preferred party. What has Bradford become? and who has allowed it?
Another thing that makes me unhappy living in Bradford, just look at some of the headlines in todays T&A. police clamping down on Heavies and bullies, fgs. it's like elections in banana republics or Pakistan. It is becoming the norm in our City. People afraid to campaign for their preferred party. What has Bradford become? and who has allowed it? alive and awake
  • Score: 40

12:42pm Thu 22 May 14

WayneRouke says...

I was so happy living in Bradford, I left.

The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere.

Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger.

Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away.

Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere.

People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds.

The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to.

Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes.

Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty.

But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like.

Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return.

But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.
I was so happy living in Bradford, I left. The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere. Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger. Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away. Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere. People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds. The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to. Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes. Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty. But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like. Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return. But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones. WayneRouke
  • Score: 57

12:53pm Thu 22 May 14

Freddy Elliot says...

alive and awake wrote:
Another thing that makes me unhappy living in Bradford, just look at some of the headlines in todays T&A. police clamping down on Heavies and bullies, fgs. it's like elections in banana republics or Pakistan. It is becoming the norm in our City. People afraid to campaign for their preferred party. What has Bradford become? and who has allowed it?
More importantly try this one "Police are hunting a man who is suspected of stealing a pair of trainers from a mosque in Bradford".

Even a pair of size twelves aren't safe these days. Launch the police 'copter immediately. Just to narrow it down, suspect described as Asian by the way.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Another thing that makes me unhappy living in Bradford, just look at some of the headlines in todays T&A. police clamping down on Heavies and bullies, fgs. it's like elections in banana republics or Pakistan. It is becoming the norm in our City. People afraid to campaign for their preferred party. What has Bradford become? and who has allowed it?[/p][/quote]More importantly try this one "Police are hunting a man who is suspected of stealing a pair of trainers from a mosque in Bradford". Even a pair of size twelves aren't safe these days. Launch the police 'copter immediately. Just to narrow it down, suspect described as Asian by the way. Freddy Elliot
  • Score: 26

12:56pm Thu 22 May 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Sorry I forgot to say, the people in the photo are actually making their way over to Greggs.
Sorry I forgot to say, the people in the photo are actually making their way over to Greggs. Freddy Elliot
  • Score: 17

12:58pm Thu 22 May 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Todays headlines courtesy of the T&A.

Shop owner's thumb severed in attempted robbery

Revenge was motive for acid attack killing of Bradford man, murder trial told

Man, 32, arrested over knife attack

Police out to beat voting-day heavies in Bradford

Police hunting for air gun 'sniper' who has shot three people on a Bradford street

Heartache as soldier’s bench plaque is defaced

Bradford councillor's election leaflet ‘amounts to a bribe’

They are the first 7 stories on the news page of this website.

The most read story today is,

Flats cordoned off after 'stabbing' incident at Windhill

and yesterdays most read story was,

Sadistic teenagers who threw cat into dogs’ den caught on CCTV

But yeah, Westfield will be built by the end of 2015 so all is ok.
Todays headlines courtesy of the T&A. Shop owner's thumb severed in attempted robbery Revenge was motive for acid attack killing of Bradford man, murder trial told Man, 32, arrested over knife attack Police out to beat voting-day heavies in Bradford Police hunting for air gun 'sniper' who has shot three people on a Bradford street Heartache as soldier’s bench plaque is defaced Bradford councillor's election leaflet ‘amounts to a bribe’ They are the first 7 stories on the news page of this website. The most read story today is, Flats cordoned off after 'stabbing' incident at Windhill and yesterdays most read story was, Sadistic teenagers who threw cat into dogs’ den caught on CCTV But yeah, Westfield will be built by the end of 2015 so all is ok. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 47

1:09pm Thu 22 May 14

yorkshiredude says...

Take that Wolverhampton!
Take that Wolverhampton! yorkshiredude
  • Score: 15

1:10pm Thu 22 May 14

angry bradfordian says...

The T&A have proved the survey correct if the 10 reasons to be most cheerful about the city include Billy Pearce (a non-Bradfordian unknown by 99% of the population) and a statue of an elephant!
The T&A have proved the survey correct if the 10 reasons to be most cheerful about the city include Billy Pearce (a non-Bradfordian unknown by 99% of the population) and a statue of an elephant! angry bradfordian
  • Score: 18

1:14pm Thu 22 May 14

yorkshiredude says...

WayneRouke wrote:
I was so happy living in Bradford, I left.

The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere.

Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger.

Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away.

Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere.

People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds.

The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to.

Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes.

Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty.

But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like.

Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return.

But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.
It smells better than Middlesbrough.
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: I was so happy living in Bradford, I left. The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere. Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger. Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away. Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere. People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds. The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to. Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes. Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty. But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like. Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return. But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.[/p][/quote]It smells better than Middlesbrough. yorkshiredude
  • Score: -3

1:18pm Thu 22 May 14

Andy2010 says...

I was reading some comments on the Telegraph website the other day about Harrogate being named as the best place to live. There were various comments from "southerners" backing up this award but one made me laugh that went along the lines of

"Visited Harrogate numerous times and hope to retire there. In fact visited nearly everywhere in gods country and living in Harrogate would be ideal. I will have a beautiful setting full of English people with numerous surrounding towns such as Otley equally nice. if I want shopping there's always Leeds which can rival Oxford Street. The only place I would recommend staying away from is Bradford. I visited this area once simply by accident and by god I will never go back. The whole place is filthy and make Brick Lane look positively quintessential English....avoid like the plague"

This comment coming from someone who lives in London !!!....says it all though really
I was reading some comments on the Telegraph website the other day about Harrogate being named as the best place to live. There were various comments from "southerners" backing up this award but one made me laugh that went along the lines of "Visited Harrogate numerous times and hope to retire there. In fact visited nearly everywhere in gods country and living in Harrogate would be ideal. I will have a beautiful setting full of English people with numerous surrounding towns such as Otley equally nice. if I want shopping there's always Leeds which can rival Oxford Street. The only place I would recommend staying away from is Bradford. I visited this area once simply by accident and by god I will never go back. The whole place is filthy and make Brick Lane look positively quintessential English....avoid like the plague" This comment coming from someone who lives in London !!!....says it all though really Andy2010
  • Score: 30

1:38pm Thu 22 May 14

WayneRouke says...

yorkshiredude wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
I was so happy living in Bradford, I left.

The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere.

Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger.

Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away.

Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere.

People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds.

The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to.

Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes.

Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty.

But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like.

Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return.

But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.
It smells better than Middlesbrough.
Thats debateable.

I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful.

I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though).

Bradford does have a couple of plus points.

It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones.

Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver.

You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it..

Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper.

If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear.

Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well.

You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows.

You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes.

You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back).

If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses.

You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune.

In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside.

Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???
[quote][p][bold]yorkshiredude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: I was so happy living in Bradford, I left. The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere. Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger. Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away. Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere. People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds. The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to. Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes. Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty. But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like. Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return. But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.[/p][/quote]It smells better than Middlesbrough.[/p][/quote]Thats debateable. I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful. I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though). Bradford does have a couple of plus points. It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones. Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver. You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it.. Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper. If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear. Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well. You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows. You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes. You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back). If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses. You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune. In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside. Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points??? WayneRouke
  • Score: 25

2:09pm Thu 22 May 14

Andy2010 says...

WayneRouke wrote:
yorkshiredude wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
I was so happy living in Bradford, I left.

The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere.

Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger.

Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away.

Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere.

People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds.

The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to.

Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes.

Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty.

But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like.

Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return.

But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.
It smells better than Middlesbrough.
Thats debateable.

I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful.

I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though).

Bradford does have a couple of plus points.

It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones.

Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver.

You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it..

Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper.

If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear.

Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well.

You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows.

You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes.

You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back).

If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses.

You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune.

In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside.

Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???
You forgot to mention that the Highway Code is not enforceable in Bradford therefore you can drive how you want. Well I say this but this only applies if you are non white.

Also there's the beautiful shops that sell fresh produce daily on the roadside in Manningham. hhhmm delicious

Also there is a little known law in Bradford ( I say little but certain communities know about it) where you can set up any shop or start work on any building project without the need for any form of planning permission

Then there's the beautiful Romany Gypsies who live in their gorgeous painted caravans....oh hang on they live in houses now and do "scrap"

Of course lets not forget the title the city earned in the 90's. the Title of "The Heroin capital of England". One to cherish that

Lest us also not forget our beloved council leader and his not at all chavvy double earrings.

We also have the very pleasant not at all publicity seeking politician Mr Galloway. Who would have thought that when he was dressed in Lycra pretending to be a cat on BB or meeting with Saddam Hussein that at the back of his mind he was constantly thinking "I need to help the great people of Bradford as I know the place well".

Then there's our "affordable housing". it not at all affordable because people don't want to live here you know.

We also have the best visiting system for patients at our hospitals as you can bring up to 20 brothers / sisters / aunts/ uncles/ to visit you as long as they don't understand the English language

I could go on and on but there is literally TOO many good things to mention about Bradford. Oh silly I forgot give kudos the list in the story.

Billy Pearce and the Elephant statue outside a curry house are truly fine examples. I often listen to my family down south desperate to visit to view the Elephant outside the curry house. If this isn't one of the wonders of the world the whole place has gone made
[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkshiredude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: I was so happy living in Bradford, I left. The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere. Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger. Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away. Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere. People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds. The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to. Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes. Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty. But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like. Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return. But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.[/p][/quote]It smells better than Middlesbrough.[/p][/quote]Thats debateable. I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful. I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though). Bradford does have a couple of plus points. It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones. Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver. You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it.. Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper. If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear. Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well. You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows. You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes. You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back). If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses. You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune. In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside. Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention that the Highway Code is not enforceable in Bradford therefore you can drive how you want. Well I say this but this only applies if you are non white. Also there's the beautiful shops that sell fresh produce daily on the roadside in Manningham. hhhmm delicious Also there is a little known law in Bradford ( I say little but certain communities know about it) where you can set up any shop or start work on any building project without the need for any form of planning permission Then there's the beautiful Romany Gypsies who live in their gorgeous painted caravans....oh hang on they live in houses now and do "scrap" Of course lets not forget the title the city earned in the 90's. the Title of "The Heroin capital of England". One to cherish that Lest us also not forget our beloved council leader and his not at all chavvy double earrings. We also have the very pleasant not at all publicity seeking politician Mr Galloway. Who would have thought that when he was dressed in Lycra pretending to be a cat on BB or meeting with Saddam Hussein that at the back of his mind he was constantly thinking "I need to help the great people of Bradford as I know the place well". Then there's our "affordable housing". it not at all affordable because people don't want to live here you know. We also have the best visiting system for patients at our hospitals as you can bring up to 20 brothers / sisters / aunts/ uncles/ to visit you as long as they don't understand the English language I could go on and on but there is literally TOO many good things to mention about Bradford. Oh silly I forgot give kudos the list in the story. Billy Pearce and the Elephant statue outside a curry house are truly fine examples. I often listen to my family down south desperate to visit to view the Elephant outside the curry house. If this isn't one of the wonders of the world the whole place has gone made Andy2010
  • Score: 37

2:45pm Thu 22 May 14

bignozer says...

What was once a Great City, as become a Grate City.
What was once a Great City, as become a Grate City. bignozer
  • Score: 10

3:30pm Thu 22 May 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

I was born and bred in Bradford.I used to work all over the country and believe me it is difficult to find any place more run down ,dirty and scruffy like Bradford.When I was younger it was beautiful city until Mr Poulson and his bought cronies in the Council got their grubby hands on it.It has gone downhill ever since and Westfield or not will never recover.When a certain Mr.Honeyford spoke out about the downward spiral of the education system he was booted out before you could say "Jack Robinson".How true is the statement now.Then you get these idiotic councillors saying what a wonderful place it is to live.Anybody that believes a word that comes out of a councillors mouth is obviously not "compus mentus". I return occasionally to visit friends and stay well clear of the dump that is the Town centre.As a previous poster commented,look at the headlines in the T&A. Certainly looks a lovely place to live.No thank you.
I was born and bred in Bradford.I used to work all over the country and believe me it is difficult to find any place more run down ,dirty and scruffy like Bradford.When I was younger it was beautiful city until Mr Poulson and his bought cronies in the Council got their grubby hands on it.It has gone downhill ever since and Westfield or not will never recover.When a certain Mr.Honeyford spoke out about the downward spiral of the education system he was booted out before you could say "Jack Robinson".How true is the statement now.Then you get these idiotic councillors saying what a wonderful place it is to live.Anybody that believes a word that comes out of a councillors mouth is obviously not "compus mentus". I return occasionally to visit friends and stay well clear of the dump that is the Town centre.As a previous poster commented,look at the headlines in the T&A. Certainly looks a lovely place to live.No thank you. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 23

3:43pm Thu 22 May 14

mister whippy says...

Why is the story that was on Look North last night about the visitor numbers plummeting again at the Media Museum, whilst numbers at York Railway museum are up, not mentioned in the T&A?
Has it been censored?
Why is the story that was on Look North last night about the visitor numbers plummeting again at the Media Museum, whilst numbers at York Railway museum are up, not mentioned in the T&A? Has it been censored? mister whippy
  • Score: 13

3:51pm Thu 22 May 14

SurprisedByJoyce says...

alive and awake wrote:
Another thing that makes me unhappy living in Bradford, just look at some of the headlines in todays T&A. police clamping down on Heavies and bullies, fgs. it's like elections in banana republics or Pakistan. It is becoming the norm in our City. People afraid to campaign for their preferred party. What has Bradford become? and who has allowed it?
We did. The silent, aren't-things-great-
if-you-don't-look-to
o-carefully and let's-not-make-a-fus
s, majority. Basically it's a simple choice, a sort of cultural Gresham's Law. Either we bring immigrant minorities up to our level, or we sink to theirs. Bradford has made its miserable choice.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: Another thing that makes me unhappy living in Bradford, just look at some of the headlines in todays T&A. police clamping down on Heavies and bullies, fgs. it's like elections in banana republics or Pakistan. It is becoming the norm in our City. People afraid to campaign for their preferred party. What has Bradford become? and who has allowed it?[/p][/quote]We did. The silent, aren't-things-great- if-you-don't-look-to o-carefully and let's-not-make-a-fus s, majority. Basically it's a simple choice, a sort of cultural Gresham's Law. Either we bring immigrant minorities up to our level, or we sink to theirs. Bradford has made its miserable choice. SurprisedByJoyce
  • Score: 23

3:52pm Thu 22 May 14

Victor Clayton says...

The demise of Bradford is heartbreaking. I remember good shops, nice restaurants and brilliant nights out. Now it's like a ghost town. And if anyone is in any doubt just spend a few hours in Leeds, the difference is staggering. The only silver lining is for those living in nice areas on the train line. Maybe they can say that they live in a superb of Leeds, but on the cheap.
The demise of Bradford is heartbreaking. I remember good shops, nice restaurants and brilliant nights out. Now it's like a ghost town. And if anyone is in any doubt just spend a few hours in Leeds, the difference is staggering. The only silver lining is for those living in nice areas on the train line. Maybe they can say that they live in a superb of Leeds, but on the cheap. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 15

4:04pm Thu 22 May 14

Victor Clayton says...

Andy2010 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
yorkshiredude wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
I was so happy living in Bradford, I left.

The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere.

Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger.

Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away.

Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere.

People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds.

The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to.

Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes.

Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty.

But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like.

Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return.

But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.
It smells better than Middlesbrough.
Thats debateable.

I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful.

I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though).

Bradford does have a couple of plus points.

It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones.

Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver.

You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it..

Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper.

If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear.

Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well.

You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows.

You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes.

You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back).

If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses.

You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune.

In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside.

Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???
You forgot to mention that the Highway Code is not enforceable in Bradford therefore you can drive how you want. Well I say this but this only applies if you are non white.

Also there's the beautiful shops that sell fresh produce daily on the roadside in Manningham. hhhmm delicious

Also there is a little known law in Bradford ( I say little but certain communities know about it) where you can set up any shop or start work on any building project without the need for any form of planning permission

Then there's the beautiful Romany Gypsies who live in their gorgeous painted caravans....oh hang on they live in houses now and do "scrap"

Of course lets not forget the title the city earned in the 90's. the Title of "The Heroin capital of England". One to cherish that

Lest us also not forget our beloved council leader and his not at all chavvy double earrings.

We also have the very pleasant not at all publicity seeking politician Mr Galloway. Who would have thought that when he was dressed in Lycra pretending to be a cat on BB or meeting with Saddam Hussein that at the back of his mind he was constantly thinking "I need to help the great people of Bradford as I know the place well".

Then there's our "affordable housing". it not at all affordable because people don't want to live here you know.

We also have the best visiting system for patients at our hospitals as you can bring up to 20 brothers / sisters / aunts/ uncles/ to visit you as long as they don't understand the English language

I could go on and on but there is literally TOO many good things to mention about Bradford. Oh silly I forgot give kudos the list in the story.

Billy Pearce and the Elephant statue outside a curry house are truly fine examples. I often listen to my family down south desperate to visit to view the Elephant outside the curry house. If this isn't one of the wonders of the world the whole place has gone made
I think we could do ok with a "notorious murderers tour".
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkshiredude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: I was so happy living in Bradford, I left. The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere. Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger. Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away. Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere. People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds. The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to. Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes. Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty. But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like. Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return. But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.[/p][/quote]It smells better than Middlesbrough.[/p][/quote]Thats debateable. I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful. I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though). Bradford does have a couple of plus points. It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones. Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver. You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it.. Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper. If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear. Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well. You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows. You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes. You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back). If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses. You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune. In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside. Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention that the Highway Code is not enforceable in Bradford therefore you can drive how you want. Well I say this but this only applies if you are non white. Also there's the beautiful shops that sell fresh produce daily on the roadside in Manningham. hhhmm delicious Also there is a little known law in Bradford ( I say little but certain communities know about it) where you can set up any shop or start work on any building project without the need for any form of planning permission Then there's the beautiful Romany Gypsies who live in their gorgeous painted caravans....oh hang on they live in houses now and do "scrap" Of course lets not forget the title the city earned in the 90's. the Title of "The Heroin capital of England". One to cherish that Lest us also not forget our beloved council leader and his not at all chavvy double earrings. We also have the very pleasant not at all publicity seeking politician Mr Galloway. Who would have thought that when he was dressed in Lycra pretending to be a cat on BB or meeting with Saddam Hussein that at the back of his mind he was constantly thinking "I need to help the great people of Bradford as I know the place well". Then there's our "affordable housing". it not at all affordable because people don't want to live here you know. We also have the best visiting system for patients at our hospitals as you can bring up to 20 brothers / sisters / aunts/ uncles/ to visit you as long as they don't understand the English language I could go on and on but there is literally TOO many good things to mention about Bradford. Oh silly I forgot give kudos the list in the story. Billy Pearce and the Elephant statue outside a curry house are truly fine examples. I often listen to my family down south desperate to visit to view the Elephant outside the curry house. If this isn't one of the wonders of the world the whole place has gone made[/p][/quote]I think we could do ok with a "notorious murderers tour". Victor Clayton
  • Score: 20

4:10pm Thu 22 May 14

basil fawlty says...

Wow a few depressing posts on here!

The bottom line is that Bradford has lost all it's wealth and the affluent people who go along with it. The riots were the main cause and instantly killed of what was then a reviving place. History will probably confirm that the City was unofficially written off by Westminister politicians and the establishment. The proof is apparent right now as we see an almost total lack of investment in the city from Government bodies as compared with most other large UK cities, and in particular Leeds. Bradford needs massive investment to function and grow and this should include major improvements the the city;s arterial roads and rail links.
Writing Bradford off is clearly convenient to some as stagnation or further deterioration keeps property prices here low and makes it harder for the large immigrant population to move away. It also makes Bradford more attractive to newly arrived immigrants and other people on low incomes. This of course all suits our wealthy neighbours in Leeds very well.
Wow a few depressing posts on here! The bottom line is that Bradford has lost all it's wealth and the affluent people who go along with it. The riots were the main cause and instantly killed of what was then a reviving place. History will probably confirm that the City was unofficially written off by Westminister politicians and the establishment. The proof is apparent right now as we see an almost total lack of investment in the city from Government bodies as compared with most other large UK cities, and in particular Leeds. Bradford needs massive investment to function and grow and this should include major improvements the the city;s arterial roads and rail links. Writing Bradford off is clearly convenient to some as stagnation or further deterioration keeps property prices here low and makes it harder for the large immigrant population to move away. It also makes Bradford more attractive to newly arrived immigrants and other people on low incomes. This of course all suits our wealthy neighbours in Leeds very well. basil fawlty
  • Score: 0

4:13pm Thu 22 May 14

northern pig says...

No one as mentioned the"spin"that our City fathers trot out on regular basis,that all Bradfordians are living harmoniously side by side irrespective creed or colour bulsh££t. Bradford is still a powder keg that could explode at any moment. The only reason it does not,is that many postcodes in the inner city are no go areas that the police are treat with "kid gloves" if the rule of law was rigorously enforced the city would explode again.No one is going to convince me otherwise. I travel the city on a regular basis and see it for myself.
No one as mentioned the"spin"that our City fathers trot out on regular basis,that all Bradfordians are living harmoniously side by side irrespective creed or colour bulsh££t. Bradford is still a powder keg that could explode at any moment. The only reason it does not,is that many postcodes in the inner city are no go areas that the police are treat with "kid gloves" if the rule of law was rigorously enforced the city would explode again.No one is going to convince me otherwise. I travel the city on a regular basis and see it for myself. northern pig
  • Score: 33

4:13pm Thu 22 May 14

Andy2010 says...

basil fawlty wrote:
Wow a few depressing posts on here!

The bottom line is that Bradford has lost all it's wealth and the affluent people who go along with it. The riots were the main cause and instantly killed of what was then a reviving place. History will probably confirm that the City was unofficially written off by Westminister politicians and the establishment. The proof is apparent right now as we see an almost total lack of investment in the city from Government bodies as compared with most other large UK cities, and in particular Leeds. Bradford needs massive investment to function and grow and this should include major improvements the the city;s arterial roads and rail links.
Writing Bradford off is clearly convenient to some as stagnation or further deterioration keeps property prices here low and makes it harder for the large immigrant population to move away. It also makes Bradford more attractive to newly arrived immigrants and other people on low incomes. This of course all suits our wealthy neighbours in Leeds very well.
I agree

The root of ALL Bradford's problems lie in immigration

Its as simple as that really
[quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: Wow a few depressing posts on here! The bottom line is that Bradford has lost all it's wealth and the affluent people who go along with it. The riots were the main cause and instantly killed of what was then a reviving place. History will probably confirm that the City was unofficially written off by Westminister politicians and the establishment. The proof is apparent right now as we see an almost total lack of investment in the city from Government bodies as compared with most other large UK cities, and in particular Leeds. Bradford needs massive investment to function and grow and this should include major improvements the the city;s arterial roads and rail links. Writing Bradford off is clearly convenient to some as stagnation or further deterioration keeps property prices here low and makes it harder for the large immigrant population to move away. It also makes Bradford more attractive to newly arrived immigrants and other people on low incomes. This of course all suits our wealthy neighbours in Leeds very well.[/p][/quote]I agree The root of ALL Bradford's problems lie in immigration Its as simple as that really Andy2010
  • Score: 4

4:44pm Thu 22 May 14

modman61 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
basil fawlty wrote:
Wow a few depressing posts on here!

The bottom line is that Bradford has lost all it's wealth and the affluent people who go along with it. The riots were the main cause and instantly killed of what was then a reviving place. History will probably confirm that the City was unofficially written off by Westminister politicians and the establishment. The proof is apparent right now as we see an almost total lack of investment in the city from Government bodies as compared with most other large UK cities, and in particular Leeds. Bradford needs massive investment to function and grow and this should include major improvements the the city;s arterial roads and rail links.
Writing Bradford off is clearly convenient to some as stagnation or further deterioration keeps property prices here low and makes it harder for the large immigrant population to move away. It also makes Bradford more attractive to newly arrived immigrants and other people on low incomes. This of course all suits our wealthy neighbours in Leeds very well.
I agree

The root of ALL Bradford's problems lie in immigration

Its as simple as that really
Agree, too many foreigners.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: Wow a few depressing posts on here! The bottom line is that Bradford has lost all it's wealth and the affluent people who go along with it. The riots were the main cause and instantly killed of what was then a reviving place. History will probably confirm that the City was unofficially written off by Westminister politicians and the establishment. The proof is apparent right now as we see an almost total lack of investment in the city from Government bodies as compared with most other large UK cities, and in particular Leeds. Bradford needs massive investment to function and grow and this should include major improvements the the city;s arterial roads and rail links. Writing Bradford off is clearly convenient to some as stagnation or further deterioration keeps property prices here low and makes it harder for the large immigrant population to move away. It also makes Bradford more attractive to newly arrived immigrants and other people on low incomes. This of course all suits our wealthy neighbours in Leeds very well.[/p][/quote]I agree The root of ALL Bradford's problems lie in immigration Its as simple as that really[/p][/quote]Agree, too many foreigners. modman61
  • Score: 7

5:36pm Thu 22 May 14

hx3bantam says...

CBA reading the predictable responses from the usual Victor Meldrews and Alf Garnetts that frequent this site with alarming regularity. Seeing as the T&A have been gracious enough to tee this one up for you just remember to not spend too long whinging on here and don't forget to eat and drink! We wouldn't want your BPs going through the roof now would we? That is all - You may carry on!
CBA reading the predictable responses from the usual Victor Meldrews and Alf Garnetts that frequent this site with alarming regularity. Seeing as the T&A have been gracious enough to tee this one up for you just remember to not spend too long whinging on here and don't forget to eat and drink! We wouldn't want your BPs going through the roof now would we? That is all - You may carry on! hx3bantam
  • Score: -22

6:02pm Thu 22 May 14

They only do damage! says...

ohgreat3 wrote:
I used to like Bradford until I bought a house in a largely asian part of town and as an ethnic minority person (white) had bricks thrown through my windows, regularly had rubbish piled up outside my home or thrown into my back ..including dirty nappies, had two vehicles destroyed..one burned another completely vandalized, people standing outside my house shouting abuse at me or on the street or being threatened, wheely bins deliberately left outside my house for 3-4 days ect ect ect you get the picture
The compasion of the people of Bradford is overwhelming. -22 wow
Ohgreat3 I think you will find racism is a one way street.
[quote][p][bold]ohgreat3[/bold] wrote: I used to like Bradford until I bought a house in a largely asian part of town and as an ethnic minority person (white) had bricks thrown through my windows, regularly had rubbish piled up outside my home or thrown into my back ..including dirty nappies, had two vehicles destroyed..one burned another completely vandalized, people standing outside my house shouting abuse at me or on the street or being threatened, wheely bins deliberately left outside my house for 3-4 days ect ect ect you get the picture[/p][/quote]The compasion of the people of Bradford is overwhelming. -22 wow Ohgreat3 I think you will find racism is a one way street. They only do damage!
  • Score: 19

6:52pm Thu 22 May 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

It's astonishing to think there's so many places that thought of as actually being worse to live than this crime-ridden craphole (although if their residents were forced to go on a walking tour around the citycentre, bits of BD7 and BD8 they may change their minds, assuming they survived). They must truly be hell on earth. Although I did go to Wolverhampton last year, so I can see where they're coming from.
It's astonishing to think there's so many places that thought of as actually being worse to live than this crime-ridden craphole (although if their residents were forced to go on a walking tour around the citycentre, bits of BD7 and BD8 they may change their minds, assuming they survived). They must truly be hell on earth. Although I did go to Wolverhampton last year, so I can see where they're coming from. moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: -15

6:54pm Thu 22 May 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
yorkshiredude wrote:
WayneRouke wrote:
I was so happy living in Bradford, I left.

The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere.

Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger.

Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away.

Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere.

People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds.

The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to.

Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes.

Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty.

But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like.

Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return.

But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.
It smells better than Middlesbrough.
Thats debateable.

I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful.

I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though).

Bradford does have a couple of plus points.

It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones.

Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver.

You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it..

Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper.

If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear.

Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well.

You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows.

You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes.

You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back).

If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses.

You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune.

In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside.

Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???
You forgot to mention that the Highway Code is not enforceable in Bradford therefore you can drive how you want. Well I say this but this only applies if you are non white.

Also there's the beautiful shops that sell fresh produce daily on the roadside in Manningham. hhhmm delicious

Also there is a little known law in Bradford ( I say little but certain communities know about it) where you can set up any shop or start work on any building project without the need for any form of planning permission

Then there's the beautiful Romany Gypsies who live in their gorgeous painted caravans....oh hang on they live in houses now and do "scrap"

Of course lets not forget the title the city earned in the 90's. the Title of "The Heroin capital of England". One to cherish that

Lest us also not forget our beloved council leader and his not at all chavvy double earrings.

We also have the very pleasant not at all publicity seeking politician Mr Galloway. Who would have thought that when he was dressed in Lycra pretending to be a cat on BB or meeting with Saddam Hussein that at the back of his mind he was constantly thinking "I need to help the great people of Bradford as I know the place well".

Then there's our "affordable housing". it not at all affordable because people don't want to live here you know.

We also have the best visiting system for patients at our hospitals as you can bring up to 20 brothers / sisters / aunts/ uncles/ to visit you as long as they don't understand the English language

I could go on and on but there is literally TOO many good things to mention about Bradford. Oh silly I forgot give kudos the list in the story.

Billy Pearce and the Elephant statue outside a curry house are truly fine examples. I often listen to my family down south desperate to visit to view the Elephant outside the curry house. If this isn't one of the wonders of the world the whole place has gone made
I think we could do ok with a "notorious murderers tour".
Maybe a tour of the scene's of Bradford's various riots. In an armoured car, of course.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkshiredude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote: I was so happy living in Bradford, I left. The square mile around the city square is OK. The puddle is nice to look at and show off to VIPs and for the council workers to look at from their office windows. But as soon as you are out of that square mile, in any direction, there is dereliction,neglect, rubbish, litter, poverty and danger everywhere. Walk anywhere in Bradford, and you sense a feeling of threat and danger. Wherever you go, people SHOUT obscenities and shout FOUL DISGUSTING, offensive language to their friends not two yards away. Travel on the bus in any direction, and there isnt one piece of grass not festooned with litter. Most have a manky horse on them. Rubbish, run down factories and buildings are everywhere. People openly commit crime on the streets. Driving standards are diabolical. My old neighbourhood was terrorised by two EIGHT year olds. The council is inept (and probably corrupt), There is too much emphasis on race and integration, when those who need to integrate wont or dont want to. Bradford has more NO GO areas than GO areas, for certain elements of the populace. Gang culture rules. I dont like not being able to walk across city square without having to inhale cannabis fumes. Bradford really does smell funny and the buildings look old, shabby and dirty. But the VIP visitors only see the puddle, and surrounding buildings. They are blinkered from what its really like. Fifteen years ago, it was a lovely place to visit. But it has gone downhill past the point of no return. But, if you are happy in Bradford, then you are welcome to stay there and good luck to you. I can say without any shadow of doubt that it is the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to live in, and I am totally happy I left it to the happy ones.[/p][/quote]It smells better than Middlesbrough.[/p][/quote]Thats debateable. I didnt say its any worse or better than another, I said "Bradford really does smell funny", which is not quite true.. In a lot of places Bradford STINKS something awful. I am talking about the city area, not the outlying postcode areas, which are lovely. Otley, Ilkley, Skipton , Pool, Burley and the A65 in general are lovely places. But the city itself is a shambles. (Not like York though). Bradford does have a couple of plus points. It is second to none for curry and kebabs (even if you dont know what is in them). I had a local Kebab the other day and it wasnt a patch on some Bradford ones. Its CHEAP. Even the Cash converters are reasonable. You can get a Plasma TV for a fiver. You can get a cannabis rush just from breathing. You dont have to buy it.. Roses do fantastically well. There is that much free manure from the streets and public fields the roses really do prosper. If you have some rubbish that looks half decent, all you have to do is leave it in your garden, unlocked, and it is guaranteed to disappear. Boxing matches are easy to come by, if you are into boxing. Only downside to that is you have to carry a knife or gun with you as well. You get plenty of fresh air (even though it smells funny), especially if you only have single glazed windows. You dont worry if you win big at a bookmaker and get banned, because there are thousands of others to visit. Money is really easy to come by, You can get thousands in 30 minutes. You get really fit, chasing the scum who has just nicked your telly (the one you just paid a fiver for in the local pub, they guy who flogged you it has nicked it back). If you want to work, there is always plenty of community work to do, especially litter picking, rubbish clearing and rounding up loose horses. You dont need tumble dryers to dry clothes, the wind never stops blowing. so you save a fortune. In general, you tend to not bother with showers or baths, because it NEVER stops raining, you just stop outside. Anybody else got any tongue in cheek "Good" points???[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention that the Highway Code is not enforceable in Bradford therefore you can drive how you want. Well I say this but this only applies if you are non white. Also there's the beautiful shops that sell fresh produce daily on the roadside in Manningham. hhhmm delicious Also there is a little known law in Bradford ( I say little but certain communities know about it) where you can set up any shop or start work on any building project without the need for any form of planning permission Then there's the beautiful Romany Gypsies who live in their gorgeous painted caravans....oh hang on they live in houses now and do "scrap" Of course lets not forget the title the city earned in the 90's. the Title of "The Heroin capital of England". One to cherish that Lest us also not forget our beloved council leader and his not at all chavvy double earrings. We also have the very pleasant not at all publicity seeking politician Mr Galloway. Who would have thought that when he was dressed in Lycra pretending to be a cat on BB or meeting with Saddam Hussein that at the back of his mind he was constantly thinking "I need to help the great people of Bradford as I know the place well". Then there's our "affordable housing". it not at all affordable because people don't want to live here you know. We also have the best visiting system for patients at our hospitals as you can bring up to 20 brothers / sisters / aunts/ uncles/ to visit you as long as they don't understand the English language I could go on and on but there is literally TOO many good things to mention about Bradford. Oh silly I forgot give kudos the list in the story. Billy Pearce and the Elephant statue outside a curry house are truly fine examples. I often listen to my family down south desperate to visit to view the Elephant outside the curry house. If this isn't one of the wonders of the world the whole place has gone made[/p][/quote]I think we could do ok with a "notorious murderers tour".[/p][/quote]Maybe a tour of the scene's of Bradford's various riots. In an armoured car, of course. moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: -11

6:55pm Thu 22 May 14

Julie 65 says...

How can anybody really say that Bradford is a nice place to live or shop. If your not Asian you stand out like a sore thumb,it literally is over run with immigrants. The once beautiful period property that we have in Bradford is going to ruin as nothing is renovated or looked after. The streets are lined with rubbish the Asian community have made it what it is today, which is the most depraved area in West Yorkshire.
How can anybody really say that Bradford is a nice place to live or shop. If your not Asian you stand out like a sore thumb,it literally is over run with immigrants. The once beautiful period property that we have in Bradford is going to ruin as nothing is renovated or looked after. The streets are lined with rubbish the Asian community have made it what it is today, which is the most depraved area in West Yorkshire. Julie 65
  • Score: -8

6:57pm Thu 22 May 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

Just walk around the City centre on a regular basis and see the miserable, frightened, aggressive or unhealthy faces and you will see exactly how 'happy' the population is. Then travel to Leeds, York or Halifax and see if you spot any contrast.
Just walk around the City centre on a regular basis and see the miserable, frightened, aggressive or unhealthy faces and you will see exactly how 'happy' the population is. Then travel to Leeds, York or Halifax and see if you spot any contrast. moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: -13

7:20pm Thu 22 May 14

Fed up of Bradford says...

I don't think the riots caused Bradford to go downhill, but the police do seem to turn a blind eye to a lot of really terrible everyday stuff, as mentioned above. Things like the cannabis haze that escapes numerous cars, rubbish standards of driving, and the tipping of rubbish.

I don't believe that immigration is the problem particularly - there are plenty of really nice people I have met living in Bradford who have not been in the UK that long. Some of the worst offenders are third or fourth generation Bradfordians with no respect whatsoever for anyone but themselves or a very small group of direct relatives. Pointing out their shared racial ancestry does nothing to resolve the problem and just entrenches it further.

One of the biggest problems seems to be just about the most stinkingly corrupt councils going.
1. The Westfield development should have been done long since according to the schedule, but our council were so pathetic at drawing up a contract that they were unable to hold Westfield to the schedule properly.
2. The Westfield development shows absolutely no architectural respect for the beautiful Victorian buildings surrounding the space, which is typical of Bradford.
3. The number of ex-mills that mysteriously go up in smoke with depressing regularity as an excuse to tear them down and build something rubbish in their place (while someone makes a tidy profit selling off the stone on a black market) should be causing someone locally in power to hit the roof and get someone arrested at the very least. But no! These buildings, that are perfectly usable and reconfigurable into offices, flats and venues, are deliberately vandalised and left to rot. The Mohair Mill on Canal Road should be a beautiful multi-level gym with all those fabulous window spaces...
4. The Odeon debacle was just typical of how venal and stupid our council is. It has been hung for goodness knows how long - no longer is the problem due to disagreement, but stagnation of the worst kind.
5. There seems to be a deliberate ploy to charge excessive business rates on shops in Bradford. This is probably a big reason behind the number of either pound shops or charity shops, and the lack of variety or decent sized independent shops in the city centre. I have friends who have taken their businesses out of Bradford for precisely this reason.
6. It is far too dangerous to ride either a pushbike or a motorbike in Bradford. The state of the driving habits around here needs some serious remedial adjustment. One of the key issues is the number of taxi drivers who are just too rubbish for words, or who let friends and relatives drive on their licences, whether or not they have even learned to drive...

I'm from here, and my family goes back over a century here. It would be nice to say "I'm from Bradford" without getting the sense that anyone listening thinks "how awful", but that is the truth. I would move tomorrow, with the right house to go to.
I don't think the riots caused Bradford to go downhill, but the police do seem to turn a blind eye to a lot of really terrible everyday stuff, as mentioned above. Things like the cannabis haze that escapes numerous cars, rubbish standards of driving, and the tipping of rubbish. I don't believe that immigration is the problem particularly - there are plenty of really nice people I have met living in Bradford who have not been in the UK that long. Some of the worst offenders are third or fourth generation Bradfordians with no respect whatsoever for anyone but themselves or a very small group of direct relatives. Pointing out their shared racial ancestry does nothing to resolve the problem and just entrenches it further. One of the biggest problems seems to be just about the most stinkingly corrupt councils going. 1. The Westfield development should have been done long since according to the schedule, but our council were so pathetic at drawing up a contract that they were unable to hold Westfield to the schedule properly. 2. The Westfield development shows absolutely no architectural respect for the beautiful Victorian buildings surrounding the space, which is typical of Bradford. 3. The number of ex-mills that mysteriously go up in smoke with depressing regularity as an excuse to tear them down and build something rubbish in their place (while someone makes a tidy profit selling off the stone on a black market) should be causing someone locally in power to hit the roof and get someone arrested at the very least. But no! These buildings, that are perfectly usable and reconfigurable into offices, flats and venues, are deliberately vandalised and left to rot. The Mohair Mill on Canal Road should be a beautiful multi-level gym with all those fabulous window spaces... 4. The Odeon debacle was just typical of how venal and stupid our council is. It has been hung for goodness knows how long - no longer is the problem due to disagreement, but stagnation of the worst kind. 5. There seems to be a deliberate ploy to charge excessive business rates on shops in Bradford. This is probably a big reason behind the number of either pound shops or charity shops, and the lack of variety or decent sized independent shops in the city centre. I have friends who have taken their businesses out of Bradford for precisely this reason. 6. It is far too dangerous to ride either a pushbike or a motorbike in Bradford. The state of the driving habits around here needs some serious remedial adjustment. One of the key issues is the number of taxi drivers who are just too rubbish for words, or who let friends and relatives drive on their licences, whether or not they have even learned to drive... I'm from here, and my family goes back over a century here. It would be nice to say "I'm from Bradford" without getting the sense that anyone listening thinks "how awful", but that is the truth. I would move tomorrow, with the right house to go to. Fed up of Bradford
  • Score: 22

8:50pm Thu 22 May 14

schroeder says...

Bradford is improving rapidly. City Park has made a huge difference and Westfield is causing a buzz. Bradford was a very happy place to be on Saturday, the whole city centre was heaving an people of all ages seemed to be having a good time.
Bradford is improving rapidly. City Park has made a huge difference and Westfield is causing a buzz. Bradford was a very happy place to be on Saturday, the whole city centre was heaving an people of all ages seemed to be having a good time. schroeder
  • Score: -17

9:07pm Thu 22 May 14

schroeder says...

The same survey ranked Wakefield one of the happiest places to live. Wakefield is far worse than Bradford. Hardly a legitimate survey is it?
The same survey ranked Wakefield one of the happiest places to live. Wakefield is far worse than Bradford. Hardly a legitimate survey is it? schroeder
  • Score: -6

9:15pm Thu 22 May 14

Reality50 says...

Bradford is horrible. Overrun with immigrants,and social deprivation. It even revels in its "Bradistan" image. I would put it amongst the worst 6 or 7 places in England alongside Hull,Burnley,Stoke,M
iddlesbrough,Goole and Wolverhampton.
Bradford is horrible. Overrun with immigrants,and social deprivation. It even revels in its "Bradistan" image. I would put it amongst the worst 6 or 7 places in England alongside Hull,Burnley,Stoke,M iddlesbrough,Goole and Wolverhampton. Reality50
  • Score: -7

10:01pm Thu 22 May 14

Brannigan says...

My friend visited Bradford for a job interview. Whilst driving in Toller Lane a car deliberately reversed into him. The 2 occupants and large crowd who gathered did not look very friendly. Although no damage was caused they demanded cash. He got the job but wont be moving to Bradford.
My friend visited Bradford for a job interview. Whilst driving in Toller Lane a car deliberately reversed into him. The 2 occupants and large crowd who gathered did not look very friendly. Although no damage was caused they demanded cash. He got the job but wont be moving to Bradford. Brannigan
  • Score: 16

10:22pm Thu 22 May 14

ohgreat3 says...

They only do damage! wrote:
ohgreat3 wrote:
I used to like Bradford until I bought a house in a largely asian part of town and as an ethnic minority person (white) had bricks thrown through my windows, regularly had rubbish piled up outside my home or thrown into my back ..including dirty nappies, had two vehicles destroyed..one burned another completely vandalized, people standing outside my house shouting abuse at me or on the street or being threatened, wheely bins deliberately left outside my house for 3-4 days ect ect ect you get the picture
The compasion of the people of Bradford is overwhelming. -22 wow
Ohgreat3 I think you will find racism is a one way street.
just what I was thinking . its inaccurate to say everyone is bad but there is a lack of any real help from the descent people or even the police, who just say move. It's really a simple outlook which says" if you are not with us you are against us....." an us and them view on both sides. At least there is one person with compassion plus another 12 thankyou.
[quote][p][bold]They only do damage![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ohgreat3[/bold] wrote: I used to like Bradford until I bought a house in a largely asian part of town and as an ethnic minority person (white) had bricks thrown through my windows, regularly had rubbish piled up outside my home or thrown into my back ..including dirty nappies, had two vehicles destroyed..one burned another completely vandalized, people standing outside my house shouting abuse at me or on the street or being threatened, wheely bins deliberately left outside my house for 3-4 days ect ect ect you get the picture[/p][/quote]The compasion of the people of Bradford is overwhelming. -22 wow Ohgreat3 I think you will find racism is a one way street.[/p][/quote]just what I was thinking . its inaccurate to say everyone is bad but there is a lack of any real help from the descent people or even the police, who just say move. It's really a simple outlook which says" if you are not with us you are against us....." an us and them view on both sides. At least there is one person with compassion plus another 12 thankyou. ohgreat3
  • Score: 3

11:43pm Thu 22 May 14

truthseeker90 says...

I have lived in parts of Manchester, Liverpool and London before moving to Bradford. To be honest, I have seen all the same crimes if not worse in those cities. I have been living in Bradford in an Asian community. No one has been racist to me. My neighbour is a Pakistani woman who always helps me. Most of my neighbours are employed with good jobs. I am not religious, and I am definitely not against immigrants. I actually like living in a Multi-cultural society. I will not move out of Bradford. Everyone has their own opinion. And by the way, five fingers are not equal. Indeed crime is in all cities, in all people, in all groups and ALL cultures.
I have lived in parts of Manchester, Liverpool and London before moving to Bradford. To be honest, I have seen all the same crimes if not worse in those cities. I have been living in Bradford in an Asian community. No one has been racist to me. My neighbour is a Pakistani woman who always helps me. Most of my neighbours are employed with good jobs. I am not religious, and I am definitely not against immigrants. I actually like living in a Multi-cultural society. I will not move out of Bradford. Everyone has their own opinion. And by the way, five fingers are not equal. Indeed crime is in all cities, in all people, in all groups and ALL cultures. truthseeker90
  • Score: -20

11:55pm Thu 22 May 14

Victor Clayton says...

truthseeker90 wrote:
I have lived in parts of Manchester, Liverpool and London before moving to Bradford. To be honest, I have seen all the same crimes if not worse in those cities. I have been living in Bradford in an Asian community. No one has been racist to me. My neighbour is a Pakistani woman who always helps me. Most of my neighbours are employed with good jobs. I am not religious, and I am definitely not against immigrants. I actually like living in a Multi-cultural society. I will not move out of Bradford. Everyone has their own opinion. And by the way, five fingers are not equal. Indeed crime is in all cities, in all people, in all groups and ALL cultures.
I have had great weekends in London, Liverpool and Manchester. Bit of shopping, nice meal and a few beers thrown in. Unfortunately Bradford is in no way in the same league.
[quote][p][bold]truthseeker90[/bold] wrote: I have lived in parts of Manchester, Liverpool and London before moving to Bradford. To be honest, I have seen all the same crimes if not worse in those cities. I have been living in Bradford in an Asian community. No one has been racist to me. My neighbour is a Pakistani woman who always helps me. Most of my neighbours are employed with good jobs. I am not religious, and I am definitely not against immigrants. I actually like living in a Multi-cultural society. I will not move out of Bradford. Everyone has their own opinion. And by the way, five fingers are not equal. Indeed crime is in all cities, in all people, in all groups and ALL cultures.[/p][/quote]I have had great weekends in London, Liverpool and Manchester. Bit of shopping, nice meal and a few beers thrown in. Unfortunately Bradford is in no way in the same league. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 16

12:38am Fri 23 May 14

Roy Stockdill says...

I was born in Bradford, as was my father and grandfather, and my ancestry on other lines goes back into the 18th century. I remember when it was populated by good, decent, honest, old-fashioned, working class Yorkshire folks. Now when I visit the city, which is less and less if I can help it, I want to weep when I see what it has become.

On one visit, because I am a genealogist and family historian, I wanted to walk along Barkerend Road to see if the house and shop that my great-great-grandpar
ents once owned and lived in was still there. I got no further than a few hundred yards because I was severely intimidated by a gang of Asian youths who glared at me as if I had no right to be there.

I despair when I see those Muslim women in their hideous black bin liners pushing prams in the street and in supermarkets with only their eyes showing. Bradford has some excellent curry restaurants but the last time I went into one with some friends we had to take our own wine in and the staff produced an opener with obvious reluctance, then we had to listen to some ranting Imam on the television which appeared to be there for the benefit of staff and not customers.

My ancestors lived at Manningham for generations, once a fashionable Bradford suburb, now a foreign slum more akin to Islamabad.

I applaud Leeds, which has become a fine modern city with good shopping, but I now avoid Bradford as it has become a foreign ****hole, due largely to unfettered immigration.
I was born in Bradford, as was my father and grandfather, and my ancestry on other lines goes back into the 18th century. I remember when it was populated by good, decent, honest, old-fashioned, working class Yorkshire folks. Now when I visit the city, which is less and less if I can help it, I want to weep when I see what it has become. On one visit, because I am a genealogist and family historian, I wanted to walk along Barkerend Road to see if the house and shop that my great-great-grandpar ents once owned and lived in was still there. I got no further than a few hundred yards because I was severely intimidated by a gang of Asian youths who glared at me as if I had no right to be there. I despair when I see those Muslim women in their hideous black bin liners pushing prams in the street and in supermarkets with only their eyes showing. Bradford has some excellent curry restaurants but the last time I went into one with some friends we had to take our own wine in and the staff produced an opener with obvious reluctance, then we had to listen to some ranting Imam on the television which appeared to be there for the benefit of staff and not customers. My ancestors lived at Manningham for generations, once a fashionable Bradford suburb, now a foreign slum more akin to Islamabad. I applaud Leeds, which has become a fine modern city with good shopping, but I now avoid Bradford as it has become a foreign ****hole, due largely to unfettered immigration. Roy Stockdill
  • Score: 36

1:17am Fri 23 May 14

OMG_LOL says...

Bradford was voted 89th out of 111 towns & cities by real people giving honest opinions in a survey.

David Ward (Lib Dem, Bradford East) said " I'm surprised by the findings of this survey .."

Well done David, finger on the pulse and all that, David goes on to say:- Bradford is too thirds rural so we should all be happy..

Here are the top 10 stories in the Telegraph & Argus as I type this comment:-

1. Shop Owners THUMB SEVERED IN ROBERY
2. Revenge was motive for ACID ATTACK
3. Flats cordoned off after STABBING incident
4.Police hunts for AIRGUN SNIPER
5. Man 32, arrested over KNIFE ATTACK

Two thirds rural though, are you still surprised people are unhappy ?
It's about time that politicians woke up and saw reality and had the guts to be honest instead of giving a fluffy quote to help his party profile.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you can't admit that there is a problem, then how can you ever correct it, that is why Bradford got into it's current condition in the first place.

OMG LOL !!!
Bradford was voted 89th out of 111 towns & cities by real people giving honest opinions in a survey. David Ward (Lib Dem, Bradford East) said " I'm surprised by the findings of this survey .." Well done David, finger on the pulse and all that, David goes on to say:- Bradford is too thirds rural so we should all be happy.. Here are the top 10 stories in the Telegraph & Argus as I type this comment:- 1. Shop Owners THUMB SEVERED IN ROBERY 2. Revenge was motive for ACID ATTACK 3. Flats cordoned off after STABBING incident 4.Police hunts for AIRGUN SNIPER 5. Man 32, arrested over KNIFE ATTACK Two thirds rural though, are you still surprised people are unhappy ? It's about time that politicians woke up and saw reality and had the guts to be honest instead of giving a fluffy quote to help his party profile. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you can't admit that there is a problem, then how can you ever correct it, that is why Bradford got into it's current condition in the first place. OMG LOL !!! OMG_LOL
  • Score: 19

8:57am Fri 23 May 14

SinnerSaint says...

truthseeker90 wrote:
I have lived in parts of Manchester, Liverpool and London before moving to Bradford. To be honest, I have seen all the same crimes if not worse in those cities. I have been living in Bradford in an Asian community. No one has been racist to me. My neighbour is a Pakistani woman who always helps me. Most of my neighbours are employed with good jobs. I am not religious, and I am definitely not against immigrants. I actually like living in a Multi-cultural society. I will not move out of Bradford. Everyone has their own opinion. And by the way, five fingers are not equal. Indeed crime is in all cities, in all people, in all groups and ALL cultures.
To coin a phrase from the headline of this article - you're having a laugh!
[quote][p][bold]truthseeker90[/bold] wrote: I have lived in parts of Manchester, Liverpool and London before moving to Bradford. To be honest, I have seen all the same crimes if not worse in those cities. I have been living in Bradford in an Asian community. No one has been racist to me. My neighbour is a Pakistani woman who always helps me. Most of my neighbours are employed with good jobs. I am not religious, and I am definitely not against immigrants. I actually like living in a Multi-cultural society. I will not move out of Bradford. Everyone has their own opinion. And by the way, five fingers are not equal. Indeed crime is in all cities, in all people, in all groups and ALL cultures.[/p][/quote]To coin a phrase from the headline of this article - you're having a laugh! SinnerSaint
  • Score: 10

12:52pm Fri 23 May 14

Wanna Have says...

I left Bradford after living there for most of my life a couple of months ago.
Now from the outside looking back in I would say you will be happier away from Bradford.
Bradford like any inner city is hugely over populated.
The cities housing was structured around the wool industry but those jobs have gone.
The Infrastructure in Bradford is creaking under the population explosion and there are a lot of ethnic tensions you don't get elsewhere.
Depends what you like doing, but if you like your western culture you constantly find yourself mourning the passing of the many great things you remember in Bradford that have not been supported by immigrants to the city over the last 60 years due to their culural differences.
If you like curry shops, violence, anger, unemployment, destitution, poor healthcare, education, crime, rubbish blowing in the wind and your happy to lead a shorter life, you've found your utopia in Bradford.The reailty for most though who like English culture is that they have just yet to find a way or the means to get out of the place.
I left Bradford after living there for most of my life a couple of months ago. Now from the outside looking back in I would say you will be happier away from Bradford. Bradford like any inner city is hugely over populated. The cities housing was structured around the wool industry but those jobs have gone. The Infrastructure in Bradford is creaking under the population explosion and there are a lot of ethnic tensions you don't get elsewhere. Depends what you like doing, but if you like your western culture you constantly find yourself mourning the passing of the many great things you remember in Bradford that have not been supported by immigrants to the city over the last 60 years due to their culural differences. If you like curry shops, violence, anger, unemployment, destitution, poor healthcare, education, crime, rubbish blowing in the wind and your happy to lead a shorter life, you've found your utopia in Bradford.The reailty for most though who like English culture is that they have just yet to find a way or the means to get out of the place. Wanna Have
  • Score: 14

2:06pm Fri 23 May 14

Tinybantam says...

I got out of the hell hole four years ago, and believe me I am so thankful that I did. People who point out all the problems that come from the immigrant population are not being racist, they are just pointing out the truth unfortunately. I visited Bradford to see friends last year, and as we drove through the city, I just felt a big sigh of relief. The streets were dirty and piled high with rubbish. The standard of driving was appalling in every way and at one point, we stopped at traffic lights and there were Asians dealing drugs from a parked car on the corner. My friend looked at them and memorised the car number, but we were verbally and physically threatened before the lights changed and we managed to get away. My friend also told me that he drove through the area on Christmas day, to visit his Mother who was in BRI and he said that it looked just like any other day, with shops open everywhere and business as usual. I am not going to rant any further because I might say something that would be misconstrued as being racist, so I will just say this. I used to be proud of saying I was Bradford born and bred......now I just say Yorkshire born and bred.......I would be too shamed faced to say the former again. The only solution I believe that would solve our once great City's problems is no longer possible. Well it is, but it would not be allowed today.
I got out of the hell hole four years ago, and believe me I am so thankful that I did. People who point out all the problems that come from the immigrant population are not being racist, they are just pointing out the truth unfortunately. I visited Bradford to see friends last year, and as we drove through the city, I just felt a big sigh of relief. The streets were dirty and piled high with rubbish. The standard of driving was appalling in every way and at one point, we stopped at traffic lights and there were Asians dealing drugs from a parked car on the corner. My friend looked at them and memorised the car number, but we were verbally and physically threatened before the lights changed and we managed to get away. My friend also told me that he drove through the area on Christmas day, to visit his Mother who was in BRI and he said that it looked just like any other day, with shops open everywhere and business as usual. I am not going to rant any further because I might say something that would be misconstrued as being racist, so I will just say this. I used to be proud of saying I was Bradford born and bred......now I just say Yorkshire born and bred.......I would be too shamed faced to say the former again. The only solution I believe that would solve our once great City's problems is no longer possible. Well it is, but it would not be allowed today. Tinybantam
  • Score: 12

6:48pm Fri 23 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

I love Bradford warts and all, I've been around the UK and there are far far worse places to live, I'm too late on this particular thread to list it's fantastic heritage but Bradford has so much going for it....great folk, great place to live!!!
I love Bradford warts and all, I've been around the UK and there are far far worse places to live, I'm too late on this particular thread to list it's fantastic heritage but Bradford has so much going for it....great folk, great place to live!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -3

4:37am Sat 24 May 14

sk9983 says...

I am an asian myself and moved to bradford some 6 years ago, i have lived in many places and have to agree that bradford is definitely the worst place I have lived in. it really feels unsafe to be going in some areas, there are gangs stopping and confronting people if they are from "fuckking lidget green or not" etc.

i see the people here are damaged, they have no purpose in life really. the youth here just hangs around in gangs, drive cars up and down near college, always confrontational and looking for fights, everyone gets violent and agressive in a split second. and sadly this is the future of Bradford. majority is like that, they have no aspirations in life, just cars, gangs, drugs and money. there's so much scope and opportunity in this world and these lot just waste themselves. but then there are also some very nice people, that are sidelined because they are in the minority, good citizens, of all races.

We were planning to buy a house here, but its very risky, hear weird stuff about most areas. when we first moved into our current house, a lot of people picked on us, swearing, even getting violent at times. bradford is being destroyed (or already is), and currently there's no way to fix it. Sad

Sometimes i think to myself, why on Earh did i move to this place?
I am an asian myself and moved to bradford some 6 years ago, i have lived in many places and have to agree that bradford is definitely the worst place I have lived in. it really feels unsafe to be going in some areas, there are gangs stopping and confronting people if they are from "fuckking lidget green or not" etc. i see the people here are damaged, they have no purpose in life really. the youth here just hangs around in gangs, drive cars up and down near college, always confrontational and looking for fights, everyone gets violent and agressive in a split second. and sadly this is the future of Bradford. majority is like that, they have no aspirations in life, just cars, gangs, drugs and money. there's so much scope and opportunity in this world and these lot just waste themselves. but then there are also some very nice people, that are sidelined because they are in the minority, good citizens, of all races. We were planning to buy a house here, but its very risky, hear weird stuff about most areas. when we first moved into our current house, a lot of people picked on us, swearing, even getting violent at times. bradford is being destroyed (or already is), and currently there's no way to fix it. Sad Sometimes i think to myself, why on Earh did i move to this place? sk9983
  • Score: 11

9:59am Sat 24 May 14

Bradford56 says...

I live in what is now a very mixed area of Bradford. People from all races and ethnic back grounds live together happily and respect each other. Lots of white people have moved to Bingley etc and the area has changed but I chose to stay and I love it. I probably wouldn't live anywhere else. The properties are beautiful and my neighbours are fantastic. Not all areas of Bradford are bad. People don't just always give it a chance. I could have followed others, and moved to what is classed as a more affluent area because of people's ethnic background, race, religion or skin colour but I didn't and I never have any problems. I suppose it's how you treat people and get under the skin of people. I'm not denying that Bradford doesn't have it's problems and areas where I would choose not to walk alone, but so does Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London suburbs etc. some people just don't give Bradford a chance and are quick to blame immigration. My Asian neighbours are one of the most respectful I have ever had. The same goes for my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours and I'm confident that I will be happy in this neighbourhood for many years to come.
I live in what is now a very mixed area of Bradford. People from all races and ethnic back grounds live together happily and respect each other. Lots of white people have moved to Bingley etc and the area has changed but I chose to stay and I love it. I probably wouldn't live anywhere else. The properties are beautiful and my neighbours are fantastic. Not all areas of Bradford are bad. People don't just always give it a chance. I could have followed others, and moved to what is classed as a more affluent area because of people's ethnic background, race, religion or skin colour but I didn't and I never have any problems. I suppose it's how you treat people and get under the skin of people. I'm not denying that Bradford doesn't have it's problems and areas where I would choose not to walk alone, but so does Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London suburbs etc. some people just don't give Bradford a chance and are quick to blame immigration. My Asian neighbours are one of the most respectful I have ever had. The same goes for my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours and I'm confident that I will be happy in this neighbourhood for many years to come. Bradford56
  • Score: -1

11:37am Sat 24 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!!
Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Sat 24 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!!
Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: -5

6:54pm Sat 24 May 14

Colin Allcars says...

Bradford56 wrote:
I live in what is now a very mixed area of Bradford. People from all races and ethnic back grounds live together happily and respect each other. Lots of white people have moved to Bingley etc and the area has changed but I chose to stay and I love it. I probably wouldn't live anywhere else. The properties are beautiful and my neighbours are fantastic. Not all areas of Bradford are bad. People don't just always give it a chance. I could have followed others, and moved to what is classed as a more affluent area because of people's ethnic background, race, religion or skin colour but I didn't and I never have any problems. I suppose it's how you treat people and get under the skin of people. I'm not denying that Bradford doesn't have it's problems and areas where I would choose not to walk alone, but so does Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London suburbs etc. some people just don't give Bradford a chance and are quick to blame immigration. My Asian neighbours are one of the most respectful I have ever had. The same goes for my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours and I'm confident that I will be happy in this neighbourhood for many years to come.
"my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours" funny, but aren't polish and Ukrainians white
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: I live in what is now a very mixed area of Bradford. People from all races and ethnic back grounds live together happily and respect each other. Lots of white people have moved to Bingley etc and the area has changed but I chose to stay and I love it. I probably wouldn't live anywhere else. The properties are beautiful and my neighbours are fantastic. Not all areas of Bradford are bad. People don't just always give it a chance. I could have followed others, and moved to what is classed as a more affluent area because of people's ethnic background, race, religion or skin colour but I didn't and I never have any problems. I suppose it's how you treat people and get under the skin of people. I'm not denying that Bradford doesn't have it's problems and areas where I would choose not to walk alone, but so does Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London suburbs etc. some people just don't give Bradford a chance and are quick to blame immigration. My Asian neighbours are one of the most respectful I have ever had. The same goes for my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours and I'm confident that I will be happy in this neighbourhood for many years to come.[/p][/quote]"my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours" funny, but aren't polish and Ukrainians white Colin Allcars
  • Score: 5

6:55pm Sat 24 May 14

Colin Allcars says...

come on, after 3 racist riots between 1998 and 2001, we have had peace for 13 years
come on, after 3 racist riots between 1998 and 2001, we have had peace for 13 years Colin Allcars
  • Score: 0

6:59pm Sat 24 May 14

Colin Allcars says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!!
It might have 6,000 listed buildings but the council does nothing to stop these buildings being altered without planning permission.
in fact we can now enjoy bad taste compounds with ludicrous high gates and intercom systems being built without planning permission causing a blot on the areas. anyone might think these people had something to hide.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!![/p][/quote]It might have 6,000 listed buildings but the council does nothing to stop these buildings being altered without planning permission. in fact we can now enjoy bad taste compounds with ludicrous high gates and intercom systems being built without planning permission causing a blot on the areas. anyone might think these people had something to hide. Colin Allcars
  • Score: 5

7:13pm Sat 24 May 14

Bradford56 says...

Colin Allcars wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
I live in what is now a very mixed area of Bradford. People from all races and ethnic back grounds live together happily and respect each other. Lots of white people have moved to Bingley etc and the area has changed but I chose to stay and I love it. I probably wouldn't live anywhere else. The properties are beautiful and my neighbours are fantastic. Not all areas of Bradford are bad. People don't just always give it a chance. I could have followed others, and moved to what is classed as a more affluent area because of people's ethnic background, race, religion or skin colour but I didn't and I never have any problems. I suppose it's how you treat people and get under the skin of people. I'm not denying that Bradford doesn't have it's problems and areas where I would choose not to walk alone, but so does Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London suburbs etc. some people just don't give Bradford a chance and are quick to blame immigration. My Asian neighbours are one of the most respectful I have ever had. The same goes for my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours and I'm confident that I will be happy in this neighbourhood for many years to come.
"my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours" funny, but aren't polish and Ukrainians white
Ok clever dick! I'm sure you know what I meant by this!
[quote][p][bold]Colin Allcars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: I live in what is now a very mixed area of Bradford. People from all races and ethnic back grounds live together happily and respect each other. Lots of white people have moved to Bingley etc and the area has changed but I chose to stay and I love it. I probably wouldn't live anywhere else. The properties are beautiful and my neighbours are fantastic. Not all areas of Bradford are bad. People don't just always give it a chance. I could have followed others, and moved to what is classed as a more affluent area because of people's ethnic background, race, religion or skin colour but I didn't and I never have any problems. I suppose it's how you treat people and get under the skin of people. I'm not denying that Bradford doesn't have it's problems and areas where I would choose not to walk alone, but so does Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London suburbs etc. some people just don't give Bradford a chance and are quick to blame immigration. My Asian neighbours are one of the most respectful I have ever had. The same goes for my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours and I'm confident that I will be happy in this neighbourhood for many years to come.[/p][/quote]"my polish, Ukrainian and white neighbours" funny, but aren't polish and Ukrainians white[/p][/quote]Ok clever dick! I'm sure you know what I meant by this! Bradford56
  • Score: 1

8:41pm Sat 24 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

Colin Allcars wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!!
It might have 6,000 listed buildings but the council does nothing to stop these buildings being altered without planning permission.
in fact we can now enjoy bad taste compounds with ludicrous high gates and intercom systems being built without planning permission causing a blot on the areas. anyone might think these people had something to hide.
Can't imagine any of the over 6,000 listed buildings in Bradford suffering from this. Of course ordinary buildings that are altered when needing planning permission to construct, the owners should be held to account and either retrospective planning should be given or said alterations should be pulled down.
[quote][p][bold]Colin Allcars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Bradford is a fantastic place to live, of course there are bad areas like all major UK cities but it's far safer than most if not all major cities. There is also some beautiful countryside and some great heritage all in the same place. The Media Museum, City Park, Little Germany, City Hall, the Wool Exchange, The World Heritage village of Saltaire, Salts Mill, 6,000 listed buildings, The Bronte Birth place in Thornton, The Bronte Parsonage, Bronte Country, Haworth, Ilkley. Cow and Calf rocks, the list is substantial and quite superb!!!![/p][/quote]It might have 6,000 listed buildings but the council does nothing to stop these buildings being altered without planning permission. in fact we can now enjoy bad taste compounds with ludicrous high gates and intercom systems being built without planning permission causing a blot on the areas. anyone might think these people had something to hide.[/p][/quote]Can't imagine any of the over 6,000 listed buildings in Bradford suffering from this. Of course ordinary buildings that are altered when needing planning permission to construct, the owners should be held to account and either retrospective planning should be given or said alterations should be pulled down. bcfc1903
  • Score: 3

7:29am Mon 26 May 14

GlobalSingh says...

Bradford was once a great city and one of the richest in the world! But its 'Bradistan' nickname says it all! Bradford should pay homage to The Great Statesman the Right Honourable Enoch Powel for his wise and correct words and the late Bradford Headteacher Mr Ray Honeyford.
Bradford was once a great city and one of the richest in the world! But its 'Bradistan' nickname says it all! Bradford should pay homage to The Great Statesman the Right Honourable Enoch Powel for his wise and correct words and the late Bradford Headteacher Mr Ray Honeyford. GlobalSingh
  • Score: 7

5:31pm Mon 26 May 14

Out of site says...

Julie 65 wrote:
How can anybody really say that Bradford is a nice place to live or shop. If your not Asian you stand out like a sore thumb,it literally is over run with immigrants. The once beautiful period property that we have in Bradford is going to ruin as nothing is renovated or looked after. The streets are lined with rubbish the Asian community have made it what it is today, which is the most depraved area in West Yorkshire.
Well said very true,trouble is everybody thinks like you do but do nothing about it and they don't speak about it.
[quote][p][bold]Julie 65[/bold] wrote: How can anybody really say that Bradford is a nice place to live or shop. If your not Asian you stand out like a sore thumb,it literally is over run with immigrants. The once beautiful period property that we have in Bradford is going to ruin as nothing is renovated or looked after. The streets are lined with rubbish the Asian community have made it what it is today, which is the most depraved area in West Yorkshire.[/p][/quote]Well said very true,trouble is everybody thinks like you do but do nothing about it and they don't speak about it. Out of site
  • Score: 6

8:40pm Mon 26 May 14

Roy Stockdill says...

Bradford was once the centre of the world's woollen trade and one of the most prominent cities in England. It is now an Asian Muslim slum, thanks to excessive immigration.

Many of my Bradford ancestors worked in the woollen business and were good, decent, honest, down-to-earth, working class Yorkshire people. I can trace them back into the 18th century. They would turn in their graves if they saw what their city has become, thanks to the Asian invaders with their mosques and their backward, medieval religious nonsense and their hideous women in those obscene black bin liners with only their eyes showing.
Bradford was once the centre of the world's woollen trade and one of the most prominent cities in England. It is now an Asian Muslim slum, thanks to excessive immigration. Many of my Bradford ancestors worked in the woollen business and were good, decent, honest, down-to-earth, working class Yorkshire people. I can trace them back into the 18th century. They would turn in their graves if they saw what their city has become, thanks to the Asian invaders with their mosques and their backward, medieval religious nonsense and their hideous women in those obscene black bin liners with only their eyes showing. Roy Stockdill
  • Score: 13

3:55am Wed 28 May 14

Croatia Carrie says...

Fed up of Bradford wrote:
I don't think the riots caused Bradford to go downhill, but the police do seem to turn a blind eye to a lot of really terrible everyday stuff, as mentioned above. Things like the cannabis haze that escapes numerous cars, rubbish standards of driving, and the tipping of rubbish.

I don't believe that immigration is the problem particularly - there are plenty of really nice people I have met living in Bradford who have not been in the UK that long. Some of the worst offenders are third or fourth generation Bradfordians with no respect whatsoever for anyone but themselves or a very small group of direct relatives. Pointing out their shared racial ancestry does nothing to resolve the problem and just entrenches it further.

One of the biggest problems seems to be just about the most stinkingly corrupt councils going.
1. The Westfield development should have been done long since according to the schedule, but our council were so pathetic at drawing up a contract that they were unable to hold Westfield to the schedule properly.
2. The Westfield development shows absolutely no architectural respect for the beautiful Victorian buildings surrounding the space, which is typical of Bradford.
3. The number of ex-mills that mysteriously go up in smoke with depressing regularity as an excuse to tear them down and build something rubbish in their place (while someone makes a tidy profit selling off the stone on a black market) should be causing someone locally in power to hit the roof and get someone arrested at the very least. But no! These buildings, that are perfectly usable and reconfigurable into offices, flats and venues, are deliberately vandalised and left to rot. The Mohair Mill on Canal Road should be a beautiful multi-level gym with all those fabulous window spaces...
4. The Odeon debacle was just typical of how venal and stupid our council is. It has been hung for goodness knows how long - no longer is the problem due to disagreement, but stagnation of the worst kind.
5. There seems to be a deliberate ploy to charge excessive business rates on shops in Bradford. This is probably a big reason behind the number of either pound shops or charity shops, and the lack of variety or decent sized independent shops in the city centre. I have friends who have taken their businesses out of Bradford for precisely this reason.
6. It is far too dangerous to ride either a pushbike or a motorbike in Bradford. The state of the driving habits around here needs some serious remedial adjustment. One of the key issues is the number of taxi drivers who are just too rubbish for words, or who let friends and relatives drive on their licences, whether or not they have even learned to drive...

I'm from here, and my family goes back over a century here. It would be nice to say "I'm from Bradford" without getting the sense that anyone listening thinks "how awful", but that is the truth. I would move tomorrow, with the right house to go to.
Quote: " I'm from here, and my family goes back over a century here. It would be nice to say "I'm from Bradford" without getting the sense that anyone listening thinks "how awful", but that is the truth."

My family history goes back 100s of years in the Bradford area...I don't live there any more, I live and work overseas and have done for the last 22 years. Bradford gets such bad press, that I hardly ever say "I'm from Bradford"... the "whole world" seems to have a bad impression of the city.

As for the "immigrants" who a lot of people condemn... you can't "tar every one with the same brush"! There are quite a lot who have done good things for the city!

Having lived in a number of different countries, some of which were Muslim countries... if I had stood up and complained about the rules/laws of the country, I would have been made to leave! (or worse)

I remember someone saying "education, education, education"... I think they made a point! Learning the language of where you are living is a good start!!! Why should Bradford have to spend money on putting up signs in other languages??? Bradford is part of England...isn't it?
In fact ENGLISH is the business language of the world... and is a growing language in a number of countries around the world!!! I could name countries where English is the/an official language! (Check Wikipedia)...why not Bradford!?

Bradford used to be architecturally fantastic too...before all the beautiful old buildings were demolished...I hope that somebody manages to save what is left!...

and as "Amy" stated in the Yorkshire Television comedy series...
"That is my last ashtray on the subject!!!"
[quote][p][bold]Fed up of Bradford[/bold] wrote: I don't think the riots caused Bradford to go downhill, but the police do seem to turn a blind eye to a lot of really terrible everyday stuff, as mentioned above. Things like the cannabis haze that escapes numerous cars, rubbish standards of driving, and the tipping of rubbish. I don't believe that immigration is the problem particularly - there are plenty of really nice people I have met living in Bradford who have not been in the UK that long. Some of the worst offenders are third or fourth generation Bradfordians with no respect whatsoever for anyone but themselves or a very small group of direct relatives. Pointing out their shared racial ancestry does nothing to resolve the problem and just entrenches it further. One of the biggest problems seems to be just about the most stinkingly corrupt councils going. 1. The Westfield development should have been done long since according to the schedule, but our council were so pathetic at drawing up a contract that they were unable to hold Westfield to the schedule properly. 2. The Westfield development shows absolutely no architectural respect for the beautiful Victorian buildings surrounding the space, which is typical of Bradford. 3. The number of ex-mills that mysteriously go up in smoke with depressing regularity as an excuse to tear them down and build something rubbish in their place (while someone makes a tidy profit selling off the stone on a black market) should be causing someone locally in power to hit the roof and get someone arrested at the very least. But no! These buildings, that are perfectly usable and reconfigurable into offices, flats and venues, are deliberately vandalised and left to rot. The Mohair Mill on Canal Road should be a beautiful multi-level gym with all those fabulous window spaces... 4. The Odeon debacle was just typical of how venal and stupid our council is. It has been hung for goodness knows how long - no longer is the problem due to disagreement, but stagnation of the worst kind. 5. There seems to be a deliberate ploy to charge excessive business rates on shops in Bradford. This is probably a big reason behind the number of either pound shops or charity shops, and the lack of variety or decent sized independent shops in the city centre. I have friends who have taken their businesses out of Bradford for precisely this reason. 6. It is far too dangerous to ride either a pushbike or a motorbike in Bradford. The state of the driving habits around here needs some serious remedial adjustment. One of the key issues is the number of taxi drivers who are just too rubbish for words, or who let friends and relatives drive on their licences, whether or not they have even learned to drive... I'm from here, and my family goes back over a century here. It would be nice to say "I'm from Bradford" without getting the sense that anyone listening thinks "how awful", but that is the truth. I would move tomorrow, with the right house to go to.[/p][/quote]Quote: " I'm from here, and my family goes back over a century here. It would be nice to say "I'm from Bradford" without getting the sense that anyone listening thinks "how awful", but that is the truth." My family history goes back 100s of years in the Bradford area...I don't live there any more, I live and work overseas and have done for the last 22 years. Bradford gets such bad press, that I hardly ever say "I'm from Bradford"... the "whole world" seems to have a bad impression of the city. As for the "immigrants" who a lot of people condemn... you can't "tar every one with the same brush"! There are quite a lot who have done good things for the city! Having lived in a number of different countries, some of which were Muslim countries... if I had stood up and complained about the rules/laws of the country, I would have been made to leave! (or worse) I remember someone saying "education, education, education"... I think they made a point! Learning the language of where you are living is a good start!!! Why should Bradford have to spend money on putting up signs in other languages??? Bradford is part of England...isn't it? In fact ENGLISH is the business language of the world... and is a growing language in a number of countries around the world!!! I could name countries where English is the/an official language! (Check Wikipedia)...why not Bradford!? Bradford used to be architecturally fantastic too...before all the beautiful old buildings were demolished...I hope that somebody manages to save what is left!... and as "Amy" stated in the Yorkshire Television comedy series... "That is my last ashtray on the subject!!!" Croatia Carrie
  • Score: 4

4:21am Wed 28 May 14

Croatia Carrie says...

Roy Stockdill wrote:
Bradford was once the centre of the world's woollen trade and one of the most prominent cities in England. It is now an Asian Muslim slum, thanks to excessive immigration.

Many of my Bradford ancestors worked in the woollen business and were good, decent, honest, down-to-earth, working class Yorkshire people. I can trace them back into the 18th century. They would turn in their graves if they saw what their city has become, thanks to the Asian invaders with their mosques and their backward, medieval religious nonsense and their hideous women in those obscene black bin liners with only their eyes showing.
Not all Asians are Muslims... and not all Muslims are Asian!
Why don't people say when they really mean? ...
Maybe the posts would be deleted by the "politically correct" brigade...
[quote][p][bold]Roy Stockdill[/bold] wrote: Bradford was once the centre of the world's woollen trade and one of the most prominent cities in England. It is now an Asian Muslim slum, thanks to excessive immigration. Many of my Bradford ancestors worked in the woollen business and were good, decent, honest, down-to-earth, working class Yorkshire people. I can trace them back into the 18th century. They would turn in their graves if they saw what their city has become, thanks to the Asian invaders with their mosques and their backward, medieval religious nonsense and their hideous women in those obscene black bin liners with only their eyes showing.[/p][/quote]Not all Asians are Muslims... and not all Muslims are Asian! Why don't people say when they really mean? ... Maybe the posts would be deleted by the "politically correct" brigade... Croatia Carrie
  • Score: -3

9:53am Wed 28 May 14

sexysam says...

All those who moan and whinge about Bradford can pack up their bags and f...k off somewhere else
All those who moan and whinge about Bradford can pack up their bags and f...k off somewhere else sexysam
  • Score: 0

11:24am Wed 28 May 14

WayneRouke says...

sexysam wrote:
All those who moan and whinge about Bradford can pack up their bags and f...k off somewhere else
I DID, and I am glad I did.

Leave that hellhole to those who want to stay and let it go to rot.
[quote][p][bold]sexysam[/bold] wrote: All those who moan and whinge about Bradford can pack up their bags and f...k off somewhere else[/p][/quote]I DID, and I am glad I did. Leave that hellhole to those who want to stay and let it go to rot. WayneRouke
  • Score: 1

3:08pm Wed 28 May 14

Croatia Carrie says...

Croatia Carrie wrote:
Roy Stockdill wrote:
Bradford was once the centre of the world's woollen trade and one of the most prominent cities in England. It is now an Asian Muslim slum, thanks to excessive immigration.

Many of my Bradford ancestors worked in the woollen business and were good, decent, honest, down-to-earth, working class Yorkshire people. I can trace them back into the 18th century. They would turn in their graves if they saw what their city has become, thanks to the Asian invaders with their mosques and their backward, medieval religious nonsense and their hideous women in those obscene black bin liners with only their eyes showing.
Not all Asians are Muslims... and not all Muslims are Asian!
Why don't people say when they really mean? ...
Maybe the posts would be deleted by the "politically correct" brigade...
oops... "What" they really mean...
[quote][p][bold]Croatia Carrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roy Stockdill[/bold] wrote: Bradford was once the centre of the world's woollen trade and one of the most prominent cities in England. It is now an Asian Muslim slum, thanks to excessive immigration. Many of my Bradford ancestors worked in the woollen business and were good, decent, honest, down-to-earth, working class Yorkshire people. I can trace them back into the 18th century. They would turn in their graves if they saw what their city has become, thanks to the Asian invaders with their mosques and their backward, medieval religious nonsense and their hideous women in those obscene black bin liners with only their eyes showing.[/p][/quote]Not all Asians are Muslims... and not all Muslims are Asian! Why don't people say when they really mean? ... Maybe the posts would be deleted by the "politically correct" brigade...[/p][/quote]oops... "What" they really mean... Croatia Carrie
  • Score: 0

6:39pm Wed 28 May 14

Bradford56 says...

sexysam wrote:
All those who moan and whinge about Bradford can pack up their bags and f...k off somewhere else
Well said! Things change, get over it! If you can't be positive about it don't read the local news about Bradford and spread your negative and racist unwanted comments!
[quote][p][bold]sexysam[/bold] wrote: All those who moan and whinge about Bradford can pack up their bags and f...k off somewhere else[/p][/quote]Well said! Things change, get over it! If you can't be positive about it don't read the local news about Bradford and spread your negative and racist unwanted comments! Bradford56
  • Score: -1

6:57pm Wed 28 May 14

Roy Stockdill says...

Bradford is no longer a Yorkshire or English city. It's an Asian slum and an appalling dump, destroyed by Arab immigrants whose standards of hygiene and many other things are not ours. Things change, yes, but not necessarily for the better. It's a stinkhole and an abomination and a disgrace to Yorkshire. My ancestors, decent, honest, working class Yorkshire folks, would turn in their graves if they could see it now.
Bradford is no longer a Yorkshire or English city. It's an Asian slum and an appalling dump, destroyed by Arab immigrants whose standards of hygiene and many other things are not ours. Things change, yes, but not necessarily for the better. It's a stinkhole and an abomination and a disgrace to Yorkshire. My ancestors, decent, honest, working class Yorkshire folks, would turn in their graves if they could see it now. Roy Stockdill
  • Score: 1

7:35pm Wed 28 May 14

Bradford56 says...

Roy Stockdill wrote:
Bradford is no longer a Yorkshire or English city. It's an Asian slum and an appalling dump, destroyed by Arab immigrants whose standards of hygiene and many other things are not ours. Things change, yes, but not necessarily for the better. It's a stinkhole and an abomination and a disgrace to Yorkshire. My ancestors, decent, honest, working class Yorkshire folks, would turn in their graves if they could see it now.
I actually find you deeply offensive. You are clearly a bitter old man and if you don't like what has happened, move as far away as possible and don't read anything about Bradford. You cannot tar all Muslims or immigrants with the same brush. I don't hear you airing your views about the white people of Bradford who choose to live in slums and don't have the same standards of hygiene as they should. Racist racist racist man!
And by the way, I'm a hard working English man, born and bred in Bradford with a lovely home in a mixed area with Asian neighbours!
[quote][p][bold]Roy Stockdill[/bold] wrote: Bradford is no longer a Yorkshire or English city. It's an Asian slum and an appalling dump, destroyed by Arab immigrants whose standards of hygiene and many other things are not ours. Things change, yes, but not necessarily for the better. It's a stinkhole and an abomination and a disgrace to Yorkshire. My ancestors, decent, honest, working class Yorkshire folks, would turn in their graves if they could see it now.[/p][/quote]I actually find you deeply offensive. You are clearly a bitter old man and if you don't like what has happened, move as far away as possible and don't read anything about Bradford. You cannot tar all Muslims or immigrants with the same brush. I don't hear you airing your views about the white people of Bradford who choose to live in slums and don't have the same standards of hygiene as they should. Racist racist racist man! And by the way, I'm a hard working English man, born and bred in Bradford with a lovely home in a mixed area with Asian neighbours! Bradford56
  • Score: -1

8:02pm Wed 28 May 14

Roy Stockdill says...

I don't live in Bradford and haven't the faintest desire to. I was born there but left many years ago and have lived in the south of England for many years. However, I very occasionally go back to Bradford and, as I said, I want to weep for what it has become, an Asian stinkpot full of backward, medieval Muslims.

I can trace my ancestry in Bradford back to the 1780s and am proud of it. My great great great grandfather, born in Bradford, joined the army during the Napoleonic Wars. Some of my ancestors are buried in Undercliffe Cemetery and others in St Peter's churchyard. My great great grandparents had a shop and a house in Barkerend Road and a few years ago I tried to walk along it to see if the property was still there. However, I got no further than a couple of hundred yards when I felt too frightened and intimidated by a gang of hostile and vicious-looking Asian youths who made it very obvious that I had no right to be there, so I beat a hasty retreat.

My ancestors, as I keep saying, were decent, honest working class Yorkshire people who worked in the mills and the woollen factories. One grandfather contracted anthrax as a result of working in the mill, so I never knew him because he died long before I was born. My other grandfather was leader of the orchestra at the Bradford Alhambra Theatre for many years and lived in Pudsey. Lord knows what he would make of Bradford now. He wouldn't believe that it is like Islamabad today! Why do they call it Bradfordistan? All those Asian men walking around in pyjamas and their hideous women in those ugly black bin liners? Yorkshire, NO!!!
I don't live in Bradford and haven't the faintest desire to. I was born there but left many years ago and have lived in the south of England for many years. However, I very occasionally go back to Bradford and, as I said, I want to weep for what it has become, an Asian stinkpot full of backward, medieval Muslims. I can trace my ancestry in Bradford back to the 1780s and am proud of it. My great great great grandfather, born in Bradford, joined the army during the Napoleonic Wars. Some of my ancestors are buried in Undercliffe Cemetery and others in St Peter's churchyard. My great great grandparents had a shop and a house in Barkerend Road and a few years ago I tried to walk along it to see if the property was still there. However, I got no further than a couple of hundred yards when I felt too frightened and intimidated by a gang of hostile and vicious-looking Asian youths who made it very obvious that I had no right to be there, so I beat a hasty retreat. My ancestors, as I keep saying, were decent, honest working class Yorkshire people who worked in the mills and the woollen factories. One grandfather contracted anthrax as a result of working in the mill, so I never knew him because he died long before I was born. My other grandfather was leader of the orchestra at the Bradford Alhambra Theatre for many years and lived in Pudsey. Lord knows what he would make of Bradford now. He wouldn't believe that it is like Islamabad today! Why do they call it Bradfordistan? All those Asian men walking around in pyjamas and their hideous women in those ugly black bin liners? Yorkshire, NO!!! Roy Stockdill
  • Score: 2

8:13pm Wed 28 May 14

Bradford56 says...

Roy Stockdill wrote:
I don't live in Bradford and haven't the faintest desire to. I was born there but left many years ago and have lived in the south of England for many years. However, I very occasionally go back to Bradford and, as I said, I want to weep for what it has become, an Asian stinkpot full of backward, medieval Muslims.

I can trace my ancestry in Bradford back to the 1780s and am proud of it. My great great great grandfather, born in Bradford, joined the army during the Napoleonic Wars. Some of my ancestors are buried in Undercliffe Cemetery and others in St Peter's churchyard. My great great grandparents had a shop and a house in Barkerend Road and a few years ago I tried to walk along it to see if the property was still there. However, I got no further than a couple of hundred yards when I felt too frightened and intimidated by a gang of hostile and vicious-looking Asian youths who made it very obvious that I had no right to be there, so I beat a hasty retreat.

My ancestors, as I keep saying, were decent, honest working class Yorkshire people who worked in the mills and the woollen factories. One grandfather contracted anthrax as a result of working in the mill, so I never knew him because he died long before I was born. My other grandfather was leader of the orchestra at the Bradford Alhambra Theatre for many years and lived in Pudsey. Lord knows what he would make of Bradford now. He wouldn't believe that it is like Islamabad today! Why do they call it Bradfordistan? All those Asian men walking around in pyjamas and their hideous women in those ugly black bin liners? Yorkshire, NO!!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however it is home to me and I have many Asian friends who are good people. You cannot class a whole race as the same no matter who they are. Every city has changed. London has changed and I'm sure that people who have links to London would say the same. It is still a fantastic place though, made up of people from all walks of life.
I respect your links to Bradford but don't appreciate your racist comments. It is terrible to read.
[quote][p][bold]Roy Stockdill[/bold] wrote: I don't live in Bradford and haven't the faintest desire to. I was born there but left many years ago and have lived in the south of England for many years. However, I very occasionally go back to Bradford and, as I said, I want to weep for what it has become, an Asian stinkpot full of backward, medieval Muslims. I can trace my ancestry in Bradford back to the 1780s and am proud of it. My great great great grandfather, born in Bradford, joined the army during the Napoleonic Wars. Some of my ancestors are buried in Undercliffe Cemetery and others in St Peter's churchyard. My great great grandparents had a shop and a house in Barkerend Road and a few years ago I tried to walk along it to see if the property was still there. However, I got no further than a couple of hundred yards when I felt too frightened and intimidated by a gang of hostile and vicious-looking Asian youths who made it very obvious that I had no right to be there, so I beat a hasty retreat. My ancestors, as I keep saying, were decent, honest working class Yorkshire people who worked in the mills and the woollen factories. One grandfather contracted anthrax as a result of working in the mill, so I never knew him because he died long before I was born. My other grandfather was leader of the orchestra at the Bradford Alhambra Theatre for many years and lived in Pudsey. Lord knows what he would make of Bradford now. He wouldn't believe that it is like Islamabad today! Why do they call it Bradfordistan? All those Asian men walking around in pyjamas and their hideous women in those ugly black bin liners? Yorkshire, NO!!![/p][/quote]Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however it is home to me and I have many Asian friends who are good people. You cannot class a whole race as the same no matter who they are. Every city has changed. London has changed and I'm sure that people who have links to London would say the same. It is still a fantastic place though, made up of people from all walks of life. I respect your links to Bradford but don't appreciate your racist comments. It is terrible to read. Bradford56
  • Score: -1

8:28pm Wed 28 May 14

Roy Stockdill says...

I am sure there are many older Bradfordians with similar links to the old Bradford and its history, like me, but they are probably too frightened to express their views here because they are frightened of being abused as racists by leftie loonies like you. Well, I am not!

I deplore Bradford and what is has become, an ugly, hideous Asian city in Yorkshire.
I am sure there are many older Bradfordians with similar links to the old Bradford and its history, like me, but they are probably too frightened to express their views here because they are frightened of being abused as racists by leftie loonies like you. Well, I am not! I deplore Bradford and what is has become, an ugly, hideous Asian city in Yorkshire. Roy Stockdill
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9:15pm Wed 28 May 14

Bradford56 says...

Roy Stockdill wrote:
I am sure there are many older Bradfordians with similar links to the old Bradford and its history, like me, but they are probably too frightened to express their views here because they are frightened of being abused as racists by leftie loonies like you. Well, I am not!

I deplore Bradford and what is has become, an ugly, hideous Asian city in Yorkshire.
Leftie loonie! Well I've never been referred to as one of them before!

I would rather be referred to as a leftie loonie though, rather than be viewed as a grumpy old racist who tars a whole race of people with the same brush!

And if you hate Bradford so much, stop reading about it!
[quote][p][bold]Roy Stockdill[/bold] wrote: I am sure there are many older Bradfordians with similar links to the old Bradford and its history, like me, but they are probably too frightened to express their views here because they are frightened of being abused as racists by leftie loonies like you. Well, I am not! I deplore Bradford and what is has become, an ugly, hideous Asian city in Yorkshire.[/p][/quote]Leftie loonie! Well I've never been referred to as one of them before! I would rather be referred to as a leftie loonie though, rather than be viewed as a grumpy old racist who tars a whole race of people with the same brush! And if you hate Bradford so much, stop reading about it! Bradford56
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