Taxi licensing rules to be revised as drivers say system is a ‘nightmare’

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Cabbies welcome red tape review on taxi licence rules Cabbies welcome red tape review on taxi licence rules

An association for cabbies is welcoming plans to slash red tape around taxi licensing, saying the current system is a “nightmare”.

The Keighley and Bradford Taxi Drivers’ Association is supporting a Government plan to get rid of many of the checks and restrictions that drivers and operators currently face, despite critics saying this could put passengers in danger.

Association chairman Shabir Ahmed said: “There has been an unjust and unnecessary level of bureaucracy implemented by the local authority at the expense of the taxi driver, be that in private hire or hackney carriage, for a very long period of time.”

He said he hoped the cost of the licensing fees would be the first thing to be cut, as drivers were having to pay hundreds of pounds a year just to be in the job.

He said: “It’s such a nightmare. We give them so much money and get nothing back for it. Every year it costs us about £300 just to be on the road – that is just for licensing and without insurance.”

The changes to the Deregulation Bill would: l Allow non-licence holders, perhaps a family member, to drive a private hire vehicle when they are ‘off duty.’ l Introduce three-year licences for taxis and private hire drivers – and five years for operators – scrapping annual checks in many areas.

l Allow minicab operators to ‘subcontract’ bookings to other operators in a different district, without the passenger’s knowledge.

The shake-up is designed to save an estimated £9 million a year.

But it has drawn fierce criticism from some MPs, who fear it will be easier for people to pose as licensed drivers, putting women at particular at risk.

Mr Ahmed, a Hackney Carriage driver who also works for First Choice Private Hire in Keighley, dismissed this claim as “nonsense”, suggesting critics did not fully understand the review.

He said: “It is just the scare tactics they use all the time.”

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6:48am Mon 12 May 14

RNJT1970 says...

Great stuff! Just give them free reign to break a few more laws!!
Great stuff! Just give them free reign to break a few more laws!! RNJT1970
  • Score: 13

6:56am Mon 12 May 14

johnh1 says...

If getting a licence is a nightmare it is like their driving.
If getting a licence is a nightmare it is like their driving. johnh1
  • Score: 12

8:21am Mon 12 May 14

Banni2 says...

Why is it that we seem to always cater for those who want to do away with control and regulation.

Taxis and private hie should be controlled to ensure the travelling publics safety is maintained to the highest standards.

Taxis and private hire should be no different to HGV vehicles / coaches and tested to maintain good standards of mechanical safety, the drivers should take specialist driving tests to maintain optimum standards of safety and regular ministry test carried out to ensure full compliance

No family members should be allowed to drive taxis or private hire unless they old the correct compliant licence.

But once again, the system is changing for the sake of profit and not for customer comfort and safety.

The council is responsible for the welfare of the people of Bradford and should stand up and be counted when issuing licences to the myriad of cheap and cheerful cars pertaining to be taxis.
Why is it that we seem to always cater for those who want to do away with control and regulation. Taxis and private hie should be controlled to ensure the travelling publics safety is maintained to the highest standards. Taxis and private hire should be no different to HGV vehicles / coaches and tested to maintain good standards of mechanical safety, the drivers should take specialist driving tests to maintain optimum standards of safety and regular ministry test carried out to ensure full compliance No family members should be allowed to drive taxis or private hire unless they old the correct compliant licence. But once again, the system is changing for the sake of profit and not for customer comfort and safety. The council is responsible for the welfare of the people of Bradford and should stand up and be counted when issuing licences to the myriad of cheap and cheerful cars pertaining to be taxis. Banni2
  • Score: 14

8:43am Mon 12 May 14

david morley says...

There are already too many Private Hire Drivers that don't know the law 1) They are not a Taxi. 2) They cannot drive in Bus/Taxi Lanes 3) They are not a Taxi and HAVE to wear a seat belt at all times. 4) They have to display their photo licence at all times. 5) We will not go down the roads of Speed - Bad driving -Jumping traffic lights etc etc ..We have rules and regulations in this country for a reason and the main one is for, OUR the public safety.
If the Council want to save some money start by getting rid of some of our many Councillors and also reduce the amount of expenses they get...
There are already too many Private Hire Drivers that don't know the law 1) They are not a Taxi. 2) They cannot drive in Bus/Taxi Lanes 3) They are not a Taxi and HAVE to wear a seat belt at all times. 4) They have to display their photo licence at all times. 5) We will not go down the roads of Speed - Bad driving -Jumping traffic lights etc etc ..We have rules and regulations in this country for a reason and the main one is for, OUR the public safety. If the Council want to save some money start by getting rid of some of our many Councillors and also reduce the amount of expenses they get... david morley
  • Score: 8

10:05am Mon 12 May 14

Mr Capp says...

None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!. Mr Capp
  • Score: -9

10:58am Mon 12 May 14

allinittogether says...

Next time you ring an electrician best hope they don't send round a family member when they're "off duty".
Next time you ring an electrician best hope they don't send round a family member when they're "off duty". allinittogether
  • Score: 15

11:22am Mon 12 May 14

Albion. says...

Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Judging by the reports we have read here in recent years about taxi problems, I would think it acceptable that things were stiffened up, rather than slackened off! Some of these proposals are nonsense and ignore the potential safety and well-being of the public.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Judging by the reports we have read here in recent years about taxi problems, I would think it acceptable that things were stiffened up, rather than slackened off! Some of these proposals are nonsense and ignore the potential safety and well-being of the public. Albion.
  • Score: 14

11:23am Mon 12 May 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Maybe you need to use the archive facilities on this site and check the articles regarding spot checks on Taxis etc. Every time it seems that 30-40% or so fail spot checks, and I remember one article where a high number of drivers had criminal conviction) including rape and sexual assault.

here (a selection of dozens of negative articles regarding private hire) :-

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ar
chive/2006/03/27/808
8360.One_in_eight_ca
bbies_has_a_convicti
on/

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/11097260.More_Bra
dford_cabs_fail_rand
om_spot_checks/

etc.

Plus there's been numerous incidents in the last year of two of sexual assault and rape of lone female passengers.

It's nothing to do with race, one of the drivers who killed his wife is white, it's about the SAFETY of passengers! That has to be the be all and end all when it comes to granting licenses and performing safety checks on cars.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Maybe you need to use the archive facilities on this site and check the articles regarding spot checks on Taxis etc. Every time it seems that 30-40% or so fail spot checks, and I remember one article where a high number of drivers had criminal conviction) including rape and sexual assault. here (a selection of dozens of negative articles regarding private hire) :- http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ar chive/2006/03/27/808 8360.One_in_eight_ca bbies_has_a_convicti on/ http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11097260.More_Bra dford_cabs_fail_rand om_spot_checks/ etc. Plus there's been numerous incidents in the last year of two of sexual assault and rape of lone female passengers. It's nothing to do with race, one of the drivers who killed his wife is white, it's about the SAFETY of passengers! That has to be the be all and end all when it comes to granting licenses and performing safety checks on cars. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 14

1:15pm Mon 12 May 14

Mr Capp says...

The proposals have nothing to do with safety checks or enforcement which is rigorously applied in this city and will continue to be so. I am aware that there are bad apples in the trade like there are in all others but at least with the taxi trade those bad apples are rooted out. It's a shame other trades and professions are not subject to such policing!
The proposals have nothing to do with safety checks or enforcement which is rigorously applied in this city and will continue to be so. I am aware that there are bad apples in the trade like there are in all others but at least with the taxi trade those bad apples are rooted out. It's a shame other trades and professions are not subject to such policing! Mr Capp
  • Score: -8

1:30pm Mon 12 May 14

Albion. says...

Mr Capp wrote:
The proposals have nothing to do with safety checks or enforcement which is rigorously applied in this city and will continue to be so. I am aware that there are bad apples in the trade like there are in all others but at least with the taxi trade those bad apples are rooted out. It's a shame other trades and professions are not subject to such policing!
It can be argued that they have something to do with customer safety, particularly women. The concern of many is that any slackening of regulations will be the thin end of the wedge as local authorities see leaving taxi companies to their own devices, as a money saver.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: The proposals have nothing to do with safety checks or enforcement which is rigorously applied in this city and will continue to be so. I am aware that there are bad apples in the trade like there are in all others but at least with the taxi trade those bad apples are rooted out. It's a shame other trades and professions are not subject to such policing![/p][/quote]It can be argued that they have something to do with customer safety, particularly women. The concern of many is that any slackening of regulations will be the thin end of the wedge as local authorities see leaving taxi companies to their own devices, as a money saver. Albion.
  • Score: 6

2:02pm Mon 12 May 14

basil fawlty says...

A wreckless idea when you consider that a third of taxis in Bradford recently failed random vehicle checks.
A wreckless idea when you consider that a third of taxis in Bradford recently failed random vehicle checks. basil fawlty
  • Score: 10

2:08pm Mon 12 May 14

Mr Capp says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Maybe you need to use the archive facilities on this site and check the articles regarding spot checks on Taxis etc. Every time it seems that 30-40% or so fail spot checks, and I remember one article where a high number of drivers had criminal conviction) including rape and sexual assault.

here (a selection of dozens of negative articles regarding private hire) :-

http://www.thetelegr

aphandargus.co.uk/ar

chive/2006/03/27/808

8360.One_in_eight_ca

bbies_has_a_convicti

on/

http://www.thetelegr

aphandargus.co.uk/ne

ws/11097260.More_Bra

dford_cabs_fail_rand

om_spot_checks/

etc.

Plus there's been numerous incidents in the last year of two of sexual assault and rape of lone female passengers.

It's nothing to do with race, one of the drivers who killed his wife is white, it's about the SAFETY of passengers! That has to be the be all and end all when it comes to granting licenses and performing safety checks on cars.
Wow a couple of incidents! judging it by the number of fares that are taken safely and without any problems just shows how well run the private hire and hackney carriage service is.
Now for such a relatively small bunch of workers such as the honourable members in parliament and the criminal offences committed by them I think it shows the trade is in pretty good shape!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Maybe you need to use the archive facilities on this site and check the articles regarding spot checks on Taxis etc. Every time it seems that 30-40% or so fail spot checks, and I remember one article where a high number of drivers had criminal conviction) including rape and sexual assault. here (a selection of dozens of negative articles regarding private hire) :- http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ar chive/2006/03/27/808 8360.One_in_eight_ca bbies_has_a_convicti on/ http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11097260.More_Bra dford_cabs_fail_rand om_spot_checks/ etc. Plus there's been numerous incidents in the last year of two of sexual assault and rape of lone female passengers. It's nothing to do with race, one of the drivers who killed his wife is white, it's about the SAFETY of passengers! That has to be the be all and end all when it comes to granting licenses and performing safety checks on cars.[/p][/quote]Wow a couple of incidents! judging it by the number of fares that are taken safely and without any problems just shows how well run the private hire and hackney carriage service is. Now for such a relatively small bunch of workers such as the honourable members in parliament and the criminal offences committed by them I think it shows the trade is in pretty good shape! Mr Capp
  • Score: -9

2:36pm Mon 12 May 14

Mr Capp says...

basil fawlty wrote:
A wreckless idea when you consider that a third of taxis in Bradford recently failed random vehicle checks.
Source? BTW what is wreckless?
[quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: A wreckless idea when you consider that a third of taxis in Bradford recently failed random vehicle checks.[/p][/quote]Source? BTW what is wreckless? Mr Capp
  • Score: -6

3:26pm Mon 12 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Mr Capp wrote:
basil fawlty wrote: A wreckless idea when you consider that a third of taxis in Bradford recently failed random vehicle checks.
Source? BTW what is wreckless?
http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/11097260.More_Bra
dford_cabs_fail_rand
om_spot_checks/

There you go. Its actually 40%. Certain sections of the community seem determined to abolish all 'red tape' and turn this city in the lawless hell holes that they have come from.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: A wreckless idea when you consider that a third of taxis in Bradford recently failed random vehicle checks.[/p][/quote]Source? BTW what is wreckless?[/p][/quote]http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11097260.More_Bra dford_cabs_fail_rand om_spot_checks/ There you go. Its actually 40%. Certain sections of the community seem determined to abolish all 'red tape' and turn this city in the lawless hell holes that they have come from. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -3

3:43pm Mon 12 May 14

Out of site says...

Bring back camels
Bring back camels Out of site
  • Score: 2

5:08pm Mon 12 May 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Mr Capp wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Maybe you need to use the archive facilities on this site and check the articles regarding spot checks on Taxis etc. Every time it seems that 30-40% or so fail spot checks, and I remember one article where a high number of drivers had criminal conviction) including rape and sexual assault.

here (a selection of dozens of negative articles regarding private hire) :-

http://www.thetelegr


aphandargus.co.uk/ar


chive/2006/03/27/808


8360.One_in_eight_ca


bbies_has_a_convicti


on/

http://www.thetelegr


aphandargus.co.uk/ne


ws/11097260.More_Bra


dford_cabs_fail_rand


om_spot_checks/

etc.

Plus there's been numerous incidents in the last year of two of sexual assault and rape of lone female passengers.

It's nothing to do with race, one of the drivers who killed his wife is white, it's about the SAFETY of passengers! That has to be the be all and end all when it comes to granting licenses and performing safety checks on cars.
Wow a couple of incidents! judging it by the number of fares that are taken safely and without any problems just shows how well run the private hire and hackney carriage service is.
Now for such a relatively small bunch of workers such as the honourable members in parliament and the criminal offences committed by them I think it shows the trade is in pretty good shape!
No, 2 examples of the article I referred to in my post- I could just post the link to the search, which reveal page upon page of private hire indiscretion if you like, of maybe you could use the site search facility yourself?

One quote from a private hire spokesman in light of the 40% failure rate was 2We were only given 24hours notice, so the drivers didn't have time to fix the issues" - surely the issues should be fixed all the time!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Maybe you need to use the archive facilities on this site and check the articles regarding spot checks on Taxis etc. Every time it seems that 30-40% or so fail spot checks, and I remember one article where a high number of drivers had criminal conviction) including rape and sexual assault. here (a selection of dozens of negative articles regarding private hire) :- http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ar chive/2006/03/27/808 8360.One_in_eight_ca bbies_has_a_convicti on/ http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/11097260.More_Bra dford_cabs_fail_rand om_spot_checks/ etc. Plus there's been numerous incidents in the last year of two of sexual assault and rape of lone female passengers. It's nothing to do with race, one of the drivers who killed his wife is white, it's about the SAFETY of passengers! That has to be the be all and end all when it comes to granting licenses and performing safety checks on cars.[/p][/quote]Wow a couple of incidents! judging it by the number of fares that are taken safely and without any problems just shows how well run the private hire and hackney carriage service is. Now for such a relatively small bunch of workers such as the honourable members in parliament and the criminal offences committed by them I think it shows the trade is in pretty good shape![/p][/quote]No, 2 examples of the article I referred to in my post- I could just post the link to the search, which reveal page upon page of private hire indiscretion if you like, of maybe you could use the site search facility yourself? One quote from a private hire spokesman in light of the 40% failure rate was 2We were only given 24hours notice, so the drivers didn't have time to fix the issues" - surely the issues should be fixed all the time! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 7

1:14am Tue 13 May 14

ste782 says...

Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Sorry maybe im blind but where above this post was racist agenda????. Race does not come in to it. Seriously its cos of fickle minded people like your self that racial discrimination is always dragged up when it had nothing to do with that at all. Peoples points are regular vosa and ministry of transport checks to make sure drivers and vehicles are legitimate at all times and pointless blaming companys for inproper up keep of vehicles are a legal requirement by law like ourselves as everyday drivers and only drivers with a proper licence can drive. NOT CUT OUT AND COLOURED IN FROM THE BACK OF A CORNFLAKE BOX.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Sorry maybe im blind but where above this post was racist agenda????. Race does not come in to it. Seriously its cos of fickle minded people like your self that racial discrimination is always dragged up when it had nothing to do with that at all. Peoples points are regular vosa and ministry of transport checks to make sure drivers and vehicles are legitimate at all times and pointless blaming companys for inproper up keep of vehicles are a legal requirement by law like ourselves as everyday drivers and only drivers with a proper licence can drive. NOT CUT OUT AND COLOURED IN FROM THE BACK OF A CORNFLAKE BOX. ste782
  • Score: 6

1:23am Tue 13 May 14

ste782 says...

ste782 wrote:
Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Sorry maybe im blind but where above this post was racist agenda????. Race does not come in to it. Seriously its cos of fickle minded people like your self that racial discrimination is always dragged up when it had nothing to do with that at all. Peoples points are regular vosa and ministry of transport checks to make sure drivers and vehicles are legitimate at all times and pointless blaming companys for inproper up keep of vehicles are a legal requirement by law like ourselves as everyday drivers and only drivers with a proper licence can drive. NOT CUT OUT AND COLOURED IN FROM THE BACK OF A CORNFLAKE BOX.
Too many peeps on rds without being licensed. Our ex next door neighbour was russain and took driving lessons with our landlord so we know for defo she didnt pass!!!!. She had 5 lessons and then bought a car and away she way with no tax, test or insurance. Think of the child she could have run over. With a full licence and insurance the child can claim all its needs if heaven forbid the child became disabled but on her dole what could the child get for 50p per week to support the disability cause by some air head unlicensed driver!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ste782[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Sorry maybe im blind but where above this post was racist agenda????. Race does not come in to it. Seriously its cos of fickle minded people like your self that racial discrimination is always dragged up when it had nothing to do with that at all. Peoples points are regular vosa and ministry of transport checks to make sure drivers and vehicles are legitimate at all times and pointless blaming companys for inproper up keep of vehicles are a legal requirement by law like ourselves as everyday drivers and only drivers with a proper licence can drive. NOT CUT OUT AND COLOURED IN FROM THE BACK OF A CORNFLAKE BOX.[/p][/quote]Too many peeps on rds without being licensed. Our ex next door neighbour was russain and took driving lessons with our landlord so we know for defo she didnt pass!!!!. She had 5 lessons and then bought a car and away she way with no tax, test or insurance. Think of the child she could have run over. With a full licence and insurance the child can claim all its needs if heaven forbid the child became disabled but on her dole what could the child get for 50p per week to support the disability cause by some air head unlicensed driver!!!!! ste782
  • Score: 5

3:33am Tue 13 May 14

bigian2012 says...

first of all I believe the current system needs to be made tighter, I also believe there should no private hire cars over 5 years old some on the road out just should not be. two of the main problems in the Keighley are pricing the company's can never give you a correct price and as many have a computer system in place this should easy to if all the private hire drivers also had meters flittered there would be no argument over the cost of fare that can range enormously from there published fares or even from one driver tp the next on the same journeys. in areas like Rotherham all company's are required to have a computer system and jobs must be sent by computer to a unit in the car. they must also have meters fitted that work along with the cars pda/computer. good reasons for this are 1. the police or council can track any driver for job when and if needed 2. complete accountability by driver and company. 3. driver safety as these systems are gps traceable.
to many operators are still not providing the customer a good service some stating that a wait and return trip is two separate journeys some charge waiting time from minute 1 others from 10 minutes in. price changes from driver to driver and some don't even know what the fare should be. too many company's are still not arriving for pre booked trips on time for example I booked one for 3pm one at 1pm in the afternoon the car arrived at 3.20 making me miss my appoint. the company's response is I should have asked for a car eailer as that's school contract times. the driver said he had been sitting in town for 25 minutes. the operators need to understand that when they take a booking they enter into a contract to supply a car at an agreed time just like we the customer are entering a contract to hire the driver and pay for the trip. they should offer compensation for late cars and stop making silly excuses. many drivers I have travelled with still use there mobile phones for text and calls when driving with passengers in the car and don't like being asked to keep hands on wheel and to deal with the call or text when I am not in the car.
one last thing there are still firms that charge extra for disabled passengers adding to the fare for putting wheelchairs in the car etc rant over as I know none fo the company's nor the drivers pr the council will do anything to makes changes maybe a passenger forum meeting once a month with operators is another good idea.
first of all I believe the current system needs to be made tighter, I also believe there should no private hire cars over 5 years old some on the road out just should not be. two of the main problems in the Keighley are pricing the company's can never give you a correct price and as many have a computer system in place this should easy to if all the private hire drivers also had meters flittered there would be no argument over the cost of fare that can range enormously from there published fares or even from one driver tp the next on the same journeys. in areas like Rotherham all company's are required to have a computer system and jobs must be sent by computer to a unit in the car. they must also have meters fitted that work along with the cars pda/computer. good reasons for this are 1. the police or council can track any driver for job when and if needed 2. complete accountability by driver and company. 3. driver safety as these systems are gps traceable. to many operators are still not providing the customer a good service some stating that a wait and return trip is two separate journeys some charge waiting time from minute 1 others from 10 minutes in. price changes from driver to driver and some don't even know what the fare should be. too many company's are still not arriving for pre booked trips on time for example I booked one for 3pm one at 1pm in the afternoon the car arrived at 3.20 making me miss my appoint. the company's response is I should have asked for a car eailer as that's school contract times. the driver said he had been sitting in town for 25 minutes. the operators need to understand that when they take a booking they enter into a contract to supply a car at an agreed time just like we the customer are entering a contract to hire the driver and pay for the trip. they should offer compensation for late cars and stop making silly excuses. many drivers I have travelled with still use there mobile phones for text and calls when driving with passengers in the car and don't like being asked to keep hands on wheel and to deal with the call or text when I am not in the car. one last thing there are still firms that charge extra for disabled passengers adding to the fare for putting wheelchairs in the car etc rant over as I know none fo the company's nor the drivers pr the council will do anything to makes changes maybe a passenger forum meeting once a month with operators is another good idea. bigian2012
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8:53am Tue 13 May 14

Banni2 says...

Mr Capp wrote:
The proposals have nothing to do with safety checks or enforcement which is rigorously applied in this city and will continue to be so. I am aware that there are bad apples in the trade like there are in all others but at least with the taxi trade those bad apples are rooted out. It's a shame other trades and professions are not subject to such policing!
A list for you to ponder.
1. Failure to wear seat belts.
2. Placing seat belts across the seat pretending they are wearing it.
3.speeding in 30 and 20 zones.
4. Talking on mobile phones when driving.
5. Trying to set up destination computers whilst driving.
6. Dirty taxis
7.taxis with warning lights lit on the dashboard.
8. Taxis/ hire vehicles smelling of smoke.
9. Drivers that try to cheat you by asking what you usually pay.
10.Lack of local destination knowledge.

These are just a few of the misdemeanours I regularly come across whilst travelling in Bradford. These cabs have all been driven by Asian /Polish or Eastern European drivers.
That's why stiffer rules need to be maintained and bigger fines and bans enforced when compliance is not achieved.

And that's not a racial view.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: The proposals have nothing to do with safety checks or enforcement which is rigorously applied in this city and will continue to be so. I am aware that there are bad apples in the trade like there are in all others but at least with the taxi trade those bad apples are rooted out. It's a shame other trades and professions are not subject to such policing![/p][/quote]A list for you to ponder. 1. Failure to wear seat belts. 2. Placing seat belts across the seat pretending they are wearing it. 3.speeding in 30 and 20 zones. 4. Talking on mobile phones when driving. 5. Trying to set up destination computers whilst driving. 6. Dirty taxis 7.taxis with warning lights lit on the dashboard. 8. Taxis/ hire vehicles smelling of smoke. 9. Drivers that try to cheat you by asking what you usually pay. 10.Lack of local destination knowledge. These are just a few of the misdemeanours I regularly come across whilst travelling in Bradford. These cabs have all been driven by Asian /Polish or Eastern European drivers. That's why stiffer rules need to be maintained and bigger fines and bans enforced when compliance is not achieved. And that's not a racial view. Banni2
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12:49pm Tue 13 May 14

johnh1 says...

Mr Capp wrote:
None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade.
It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why!
Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.
Mr Crapp You have managed what few people can do.

Every word was wrong even a broken clock is right twice a day.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: None of you posters have a clue what you are talking about nor understand the implications and positives that could come from a review. In the public sector bureaucracy is accepted because the taxpayer pays for it but in the private sector it can ruin many businesses including the taxi trade. It is obvious that so many posters on here have a racist agenda and I don't need to explain why! Bad driving is not not limited to taxi or private hire drivers. I'd like to bet that many of you commenting on driving standards are not fit to hold a licence nor would pass a driving test today! Hypocrites!.[/p][/quote]Mr Crapp You have managed what few people can do. Every word was wrong even a broken clock is right twice a day. johnh1
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