VIDEO: Thornbury residents battle to get rubbish cleared

VIDEO: Thornbury residents battle to get rubbish cleared

Wajid Iqbal with some of the rubbish

Residents of Rushton Road and Thornbury Drive in the alleyway between the streets in Thornbury

First published in News

Angry residents have called for action to clean up an “absolute eyesore” caused by rubbish dumped outside their homes.

Wajid Iqbal says fridges, mattresses and settees have been left at the back of his home in Rushton Road, Thornbury.

Mr Iqbal, who lives in an extended property with nine of his relatives, including two children, wants the alleyway between Thornbury Drive and Rushton Road tidied up.

He said he had been battling with Bradford Council for more than five years over rubbish being left there and claimed the situation has now got so bad that it is unsafe for children to play outside in the street.

But the Council has responded by saying that as the area is classed as private land it is the owner and not the local authority who has the responsibility to remove it.

Mr Iqbal, 36, said of the mess: “It’s absolutely disgusting.

“I’ve spoken to the Council about it a few times, but they keep fobbing us off. The flytipping is really bad, it’s an absolute mess.

“We want something to be done about it. It’s been long enough, it’s not happening at the moment.

“People are dumping rubbish and you can’t even take your car through the street now.

“I have lived here all of my life. When I was younger you could play out in the back streets. Kids can’t do that now. It’s just really, really dirty.”

Ashraf Hussain, also of Rushton Road, said: “Nobody is doing anything about it, why?

“We don’t own it, it’s not on our deeds. The Council say it’s unadopted. We want the Council to do something about it.”

Councillor Faisal Khan (Bradford Independent Group, Bradford Moor) said he sympathised with the residents but pointed out it might be down to them to clean up the mess.

He said: “It’s clearly unacceptable.

“Unfortunately, a lot of it is down to the residents to clean up, which is difficult when people have been flytipping down their road.

“Residents are suffering due to someone else.”

Ian Day, the Council’s interim assistant director for neighbourhoods and customer services, said: “Our wardens are aware of the rubbish which has been dumped in the Thornbury Avenue area and we have spoken to residents about it.

“The rubbish has not been flytipped, it originated from one of the properties there and as it is on private land. It is the responsibility of the landowner to have it removed.

“We are in contact with the property owner concerning the removal of the rubbish.”

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6:59am Sat 3 May 14

Albion. says...

“The rubbish has not been flytipped, it originated from one of the properties there and as it is on private land. It is the responsibility of the landowner to have it removed."

Why not prosecute him for not doing so?
“The rubbish has not been flytipped, it originated from one of the properties there and as it is on private land. It is the responsibility of the landowner to have it removed." Why not prosecute him for not doing so? Albion.
  • Score: 26

7:17am Sat 3 May 14

mad matt says...

It's exactly the same problem behind my house. There is a wedge-shaped area of land which belongs to the houses in the next street and our cottages, which are through by light properties only have access to it for house maintenance.
Over the years a lot of building work has been done to the houses in the next street and most of the rubbish was from that work. Since then even more rubbish has been dumped there, bags of old clothes, general household waste in black bags, which get ripped open and scattered by feral cats and crows looking for food.
The area is 'un-adopted' so of course the council are not interested.
A change in the law is needed to stop this blight on the city.
It's exactly the same problem behind my house. There is a wedge-shaped area of land which belongs to the houses in the next street and our cottages, which are through by light properties only have access to it for house maintenance. Over the years a lot of building work has been done to the houses in the next street and most of the rubbish was from that work. Since then even more rubbish has been dumped there, bags of old clothes, general household waste in black bags, which get ripped open and scattered by feral cats and crows looking for food. The area is 'un-adopted' so of course the council are not interested. A change in the law is needed to stop this blight on the city. mad matt
  • Score: 1

7:58am Sat 3 May 14

sam-tyler says...

I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining. sam-tyler
  • Score: 19

8:24am Sat 3 May 14

Cooperlane2 says...

A few quid each to hire a skip, a day to skip it all..job done.
You see it all over Bradford, easier to chuck stuff over your fence than get it taken away properly.
A few quid each to hire a skip, a day to skip it all..job done. You see it all over Bradford, easier to chuck stuff over your fence than get it taken away properly. Cooperlane2
  • Score: 21

8:48am Sat 3 May 14

OLDLAD says...

Buy a cctv and set it up. Soon catch whoever is doing it and it will only cost a few quid. Whatever happened to self help?
Buy a cctv and set it up. Soon catch whoever is doing it and it will only cost a few quid. Whatever happened to self help? OLDLAD
  • Score: 19

8:53am Sat 3 May 14

denislamenis says...

Confucius say - don't pee in your own tent.
Confucius say - don't pee in your own tent. denislamenis
  • Score: 16

9:30am Sat 3 May 14

sorrow&anger says...

There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money.

The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.
There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money. The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford. sorrow&anger
  • Score: -10

9:36am Sat 3 May 14

Freddy Elliot says...

sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
Yes that's what I thought like a home from home.
[quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]Yes that's what I thought like a home from home. Freddy Elliot
  • Score: 11

9:59am Sat 3 May 14

linebacker2 says...

The relevant law on fly tipping - Environmental Protection Act 1990 doesn't distinguish between private & public land. The crime is still the same, yes the council aren't responsible for the clear up but they do have a legal duty to investigate and if necessary prosecute.

If there'd been an opportunity to issue some parking tickets, the council would have the wardens round with zero tolerance in a jiffy...
The relevant law on fly tipping - Environmental Protection Act 1990 doesn't distinguish between private & public land. The crime is still the same, yes the council aren't responsible for the clear up but they do have a legal duty to investigate and if necessary prosecute. If there'd been an opportunity to issue some parking tickets, the council would have the wardens round with zero tolerance in a jiffy... linebacker2
  • Score: -3

10:00am Sat 3 May 14

OLDLAD says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money.

The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.
If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money. The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.[/p][/quote]If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done. OLDLAD
  • Score: 14

10:39am Sat 3 May 14

bd7 helper says...

get the unemployed ready to do sum work
get the unemployed ready to do sum work bd7 helper
  • Score: 11

10:44am Sat 3 May 14

The Hoffster says...

sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
You vile Islamophobe.
[quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]You vile Islamophobe. The Hoffster
  • Score: -21

12:42pm Sat 3 May 14

Iky.786 says...

sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
sam-tyler

Have you even read on how clean or dirty Islamabad is. I don't think you have. I think you need to do a bit of reading. In 'Islamabad' they don't allow animals in the city, so I don't know why you're comparing Bradford with Islamabad. Do some research and you will be surprised how clean that city is.
[quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]sam-tyler Have you even read on how clean or dirty Islamabad is. I don't think you have. I think you need to do a bit of reading. In 'Islamabad' they don't allow animals in the city, so I don't know why you're comparing Bradford with Islamabad. Do some research and you will be surprised how clean that city is. Iky.786
  • Score: -9

1:08pm Sat 3 May 14

Albion. says...

Iky.786 wrote:
sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
sam-tyler

Have you even read on how clean or dirty Islamabad is. I don't think you have. I think you need to do a bit of reading. In 'Islamabad' they don't allow animals in the city, so I don't know why you're comparing Bradford with Islamabad. Do some research and you will be surprised how clean that city is.
Really?

http://widerimage.re
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[quote][p][bold]Iky.786[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]sam-tyler Have you even read on how clean or dirty Islamabad is. I don't think you have. I think you need to do a bit of reading. In 'Islamabad' they don't allow animals in the city, so I don't know why you're comparing Bradford with Islamabad. Do some research and you will be surprised how clean that city is.[/p][/quote]Really? http://widerimage.re uters.com/story/in-t he-slums-of-islamaba d Albion.
  • Score: 11

2:02pm Sat 3 May 14

Bikerbeardy says...

Albion. wrote:
Iky.786 wrote:
sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
sam-tyler

Have you even read on how clean or dirty Islamabad is. I don't think you have. I think you need to do a bit of reading. In 'Islamabad' they don't allow animals in the city, so I don't know why you're comparing Bradford with Islamabad. Do some research and you will be surprised how clean that city is.
Really?

http://widerimage.re

uters.com/story/in-t

he-slums-of-islamaba

d
Hehe, :)
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iky.786[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]sam-tyler Have you even read on how clean or dirty Islamabad is. I don't think you have. I think you need to do a bit of reading. In 'Islamabad' they don't allow animals in the city, so I don't know why you're comparing Bradford with Islamabad. Do some research and you will be surprised how clean that city is.[/p][/quote]Really? http://widerimage.re uters.com/story/in-t he-slums-of-islamaba d[/p][/quote]Hehe, :) Bikerbeardy
  • Score: 5

3:02pm Sat 3 May 14

philosospher says...

If it's a back street only for the use of residents, it may be possible to get legal powers to 'gate' it ... or at least apply such barriers as would prevent unauthorised vehicle access ... fly-tippers are lazy, and will go elsewhere, but I suspect they're local.
If it's a back street only for the use of residents, it may be possible to get legal powers to 'gate' it ... or at least apply such barriers as would prevent unauthorised vehicle access ... fly-tippers are lazy, and will go elsewhere, but I suspect they're local. philosospher
  • Score: 17

5:40pm Sat 3 May 14

sam-tyler says...

The Hoffster wrote:
sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
You vile Islamophobe.
STFU Cade you sad twonk.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]You vile Islamophobe.[/p][/quote]STFU Cade you sad twonk. sam-tyler
  • Score: 9

6:20pm Sat 3 May 14

gracie field says...

Can't the community get together and do a community clean up? If there is rubbish dumped on my doorstep guess what I do? I get off my behind and clean it up.

Too many people these days expect the government and tax payers to wipe there arrass be it teaching their kids basic English, keeping the outside of their homes tidy and in good repair (regeneration of certain Bradford areas) and now they expect the council to spend other peoples money on cleaning private property.

Take responsibility for your surroundings and tidy your own areas up and if you cant be bothered then stop moaning like little girls.
Can't the community get together and do a community clean up? If there is rubbish dumped on my doorstep guess what I do? I get off my behind and clean it up. Too many people these days expect the government and tax payers to wipe there arrass be it teaching their kids basic English, keeping the outside of their homes tidy and in good repair (regeneration of certain Bradford areas) and now they expect the council to spend other peoples money on cleaning private property. Take responsibility for your surroundings and tidy your own areas up and if you cant be bothered then stop moaning like little girls. gracie field
  • Score: 12

6:21pm Sat 3 May 14

gracie field says...

*their
*their gracie field
  • Score: -2

9:40pm Sat 3 May 14

The Hoffster says...

sam-tyler wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
You vile Islamophobe.
STFU Cade you sad twonk.
Schizo, is that you ?
[quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]You vile Islamophobe.[/p][/quote]STFU Cade you sad twonk.[/p][/quote]Schizo, is that you ? The Hoffster
  • Score: -2

10:25pm Sat 3 May 14

The Hoffster says...

gracie field wrote:
Can't the community get together and do a community clean up? If there is rubbish dumped on my doorstep guess what I do? I get off my behind and clean it up.

Too many people these days expect the government and tax payers to wipe there arrass be it teaching their kids basic English, keeping the outside of their homes tidy and in good repair (regeneration of certain Bradford areas) and now they expect the council to spend other peoples money on cleaning private property.

Take responsibility for your surroundings and tidy your own areas up and if you cant be bothered then stop moaning like little girls.
And schizo number 2 'graces' us....
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Can't the community get together and do a community clean up? If there is rubbish dumped on my doorstep guess what I do? I get off my behind and clean it up. Too many people these days expect the government and tax payers to wipe there arrass be it teaching their kids basic English, keeping the outside of their homes tidy and in good repair (regeneration of certain Bradford areas) and now they expect the council to spend other peoples money on cleaning private property. Take responsibility for your surroundings and tidy your own areas up and if you cant be bothered then stop moaning like little girls.[/p][/quote]And schizo number 2 'graces' us.... The Hoffster
  • Score: -6

8:54am Sun 4 May 14

mad matt says...

We already did a 'community clean up' several years ago. 3 pensioners (two with serious health problems) and 2 younger people. We picked up 4 large skip-loads of rubbish, the council finally provided the skips, under protest BUT told us in no uncertain terms that if we ever did it again then we would have to pay for the skips - It's not even our land or our rubbish!
In the end, one of the residents responsible for the eye-sore sent his little kid round to thank us for cleaning up because now his daddy would be able to get his car round to the back door of his house!
We already did a 'community clean up' several years ago. 3 pensioners (two with serious health problems) and 2 younger people. We picked up 4 large skip-loads of rubbish, the council finally provided the skips, under protest BUT told us in no uncertain terms that if we ever did it again then we would have to pay for the skips - It's not even our land or our rubbish! In the end, one of the residents responsible for the eye-sore sent his little kid round to thank us for cleaning up because now his daddy would be able to get his car round to the back door of his house! mad matt
  • Score: 6

11:31am Sun 4 May 14

SurprisedByJoyce says...

OLDLAD wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money.

The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.
If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.
I don't think that's right.

Whether the street is adopted or not, fly tipping is still a crime and the Council are the primary enforcing authority. Laws should always be enforced by the proper authorities, not vigilantes. It's one reason we pay our taxes. Or would you prefer a posse of men-with-beards roaming our streets?
[quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money. The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.[/p][/quote]If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.[/p][/quote]I don't think that's right. Whether the street is adopted or not, fly tipping is still a crime and the Council are the primary enforcing authority. Laws should always be enforced by the proper authorities, not vigilantes. It's one reason we pay our taxes. Or would you prefer a posse of men-with-beards roaming our streets? SurprisedByJoyce
  • Score: 6

12:21pm Sun 4 May 14

mrs walker says...

gracie field wrote:
Can't the community get together and do a community clean up? If there is rubbish dumped on my doorstep guess what I do? I get off my behind and clean it up.

Too many people these days expect the government and tax payers to wipe there arrass be it teaching their kids basic English, keeping the outside of their homes tidy and in good repair (regeneration of certain Bradford areas) and now they expect the council to spend other peoples money on cleaning private property.

Take responsibility for your surroundings and tidy your own areas up and if you cant be bothered then stop moaning like little girls.
'Stop moaning like little girls' - that's a bit sexist, Gracie. How about 'Stop moaning like contributors to the T&A comments section'.

They moan far, far more than any little girl I've ever heard...
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Can't the community get together and do a community clean up? If there is rubbish dumped on my doorstep guess what I do? I get off my behind and clean it up. Too many people these days expect the government and tax payers to wipe there arrass be it teaching their kids basic English, keeping the outside of their homes tidy and in good repair (regeneration of certain Bradford areas) and now they expect the council to spend other peoples money on cleaning private property. Take responsibility for your surroundings and tidy your own areas up and if you cant be bothered then stop moaning like little girls.[/p][/quote]'Stop moaning like little girls' - that's a bit sexist, Gracie. How about 'Stop moaning like contributors to the T&A comments section'. They moan far, far more than any little girl I've ever heard... mrs walker
  • Score: -3

1:38pm Sun 4 May 14

pcmanners says...

SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
OLDLAD wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money.

The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.
If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.
I don't think that's right.

Whether the street is adopted or not, fly tipping is still a crime and the Council are the primary enforcing authority. Laws should always be enforced by the proper authorities, not vigilantes. It's one reason we pay our taxes. Or would you prefer a posse of men-with-beards roaming our streets?
Vigilantes would give the criminals a taste of their own medicine. You have to admire the Muslim attitude to crime. We can learn a lot from them. Public nuisances like fly tippers should be half buried in their own rubbish and stoned to death. Burglars should always be amputated and the rest of the criminal, benefit-scrounging, fraternity hanged.
[quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money. The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.[/p][/quote]If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.[/p][/quote]I don't think that's right. Whether the street is adopted or not, fly tipping is still a crime and the Council are the primary enforcing authority. Laws should always be enforced by the proper authorities, not vigilantes. It's one reason we pay our taxes. Or would you prefer a posse of men-with-beards roaming our streets?[/p][/quote]Vigilantes would give the criminals a taste of their own medicine. You have to admire the Muslim attitude to crime. We can learn a lot from them. Public nuisances like fly tippers should be half buried in their own rubbish and stoned to death. Burglars should always be amputated and the rest of the criminal, benefit-scrounging, fraternity hanged. pcmanners
  • Score: -7

2:20pm Sun 4 May 14

Albion. says...

pcmanners wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
OLDLAD wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money.

The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.
If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.
I don't think that's right.

Whether the street is adopted or not, fly tipping is still a crime and the Council are the primary enforcing authority. Laws should always be enforced by the proper authorities, not vigilantes. It's one reason we pay our taxes. Or would you prefer a posse of men-with-beards roaming our streets?
Vigilantes would give the criminals a taste of their own medicine. You have to admire the Muslim attitude to crime. We can learn a lot from them. Public nuisances like fly tippers should be half buried in their own rubbish and stoned to death. Burglars should always be amputated and the rest of the criminal, benefit-scrounging, fraternity hanged.
We have long since moved on from that. By the way, they still have high levels of crime in some countries that allow such barbarity. I'm in favour of more severe penalties, but lynch mobs and vigilantes is not the way to go.
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: There are plenty of self-help solutions to the problem, hiring skips, installing CCTV etc. However all these will cost quite a bit of money. The flytippers are breaking the law; the residents are the victims here, why should they have to pay? Unfortunately this is typical of City Hall. They'll be happy as long as they are making money from their increased trade waste fees and restricting the use of tips with their silly permit system. It never, ever, occurs to City Hall to try and help the citizens of Bradford.[/p][/quote]If the street in unadopted it has nothing to do with the council. Why should the tax payer pick up the tab? You can pick up a cctv sytem anywhere for about £30, everybody chip in a £5 job done.[/p][/quote]I don't think that's right. Whether the street is adopted or not, fly tipping is still a crime and the Council are the primary enforcing authority. Laws should always be enforced by the proper authorities, not vigilantes. It's one reason we pay our taxes. Or would you prefer a posse of men-with-beards roaming our streets?[/p][/quote]Vigilantes would give the criminals a taste of their own medicine. You have to admire the Muslim attitude to crime. We can learn a lot from them. Public nuisances like fly tippers should be half buried in their own rubbish and stoned to death. Burglars should always be amputated and the rest of the criminal, benefit-scrounging, fraternity hanged.[/p][/quote]We have long since moved on from that. By the way, they still have high levels of crime in some countries that allow such barbarity. I'm in favour of more severe penalties, but lynch mobs and vigilantes is not the way to go. Albion.
  • Score: 4

3:00pm Sun 4 May 14

Colin Allcars says...

There was a piece on Look North recently where Rotherham council were having to give lessons in not dumping rubbish to Roma immigrants because it was their 'culture' to drop/throw rubbish where they liked!
I pick up litter on a pathway at least one a week close to where I live, I agree it's not my job, but I'd rather do that than sit on my harris as it gets worse and blame everyone else
There was a piece on Look North recently where Rotherham council were having to give lessons in not dumping rubbish to Roma immigrants because it was their 'culture' to drop/throw rubbish where they liked! I pick up litter on a pathway at least one a week close to where I live, I agree it's not my job, but I'd rather do that than sit on my harris as it gets worse and blame everyone else Colin Allcars
  • Score: 9

3:48pm Sun 4 May 14

Colin Allcars says...

just watched the video. the whole street could do with a tidy up, that area (when English Electric/ GEC was there) was never as run down and scruffy as it is now with a mis-match of compound-esque gates, broken walls weeds and shambolic add ons
just watched the video. the whole street could do with a tidy up, that area (when English Electric/ GEC was there) was never as run down and scruffy as it is now with a mis-match of compound-esque gates, broken walls weeds and shambolic add ons Colin Allcars
  • Score: 9

2:08pm Mon 5 May 14

peterspan says...

sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
Or Holmewood or Buttershaw.
[quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]Or Holmewood or Buttershaw. peterspan
  • Score: 3

3:17pm Mon 5 May 14

CharlesVarrick says...

peterspan wrote:
sam-tyler wrote:
I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.
Or Holmewood or Buttershaw.
Or Ravenscliffe or Thorpe Edge.
[quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: I looks just like any other back street in Islamabad, so dunno why they're complaining.[/p][/quote]Or Holmewood or Buttershaw.[/p][/quote]Or Ravenscliffe or Thorpe Edge. CharlesVarrick
  • Score: -2

6:12pm Mon 5 May 14

Colin Allcars says...

do they have back streets on those estates, or is your comment just intended to be racist?
do they have back streets on those estates, or is your comment just intended to be racist? Colin Allcars
  • Score: 6

9:48am Thu 8 May 14

collos25 says...

Colin Allcars wrote:
do they have back streets on those estates, or is your comment just intended to be racist?
It comes from an idiot who is at best brain dead.
[quote][p][bold]Colin Allcars[/bold] wrote: do they have back streets on those estates, or is your comment just intended to be racist?[/p][/quote]It comes from an idiot who is at best brain dead. collos25
  • Score: -3

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