Council to get powers to curb bookies blight in town centres

Some of the betting shops in Bradford city centre

Some of the betting shops in Bradford city centre

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Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Councils will be given new powers to help prevent new clusters of betting shops opening across town and city centres.

Bookmakers will have to submit planning applications for new shops which will allow local authorities, like Bradford Council, a chance to refuse permission if they are felt to be detrimental to shopping streets.

The move, announced by the Government yesterday, comes as the Department for Culture, Media and Sport said communities had expressed concerns about the clustering of betting shops on some high streets.

The existing planning system classes a betting shop in the same category as a bank or estate agent, meaning they can open without the need for a planning application.

The changes will mean councils can scrutinise the applications and refuse them where there are grounds to do so.

In July 2012, the Telegraph & Argus started a campaign called Beat the Betting Blight campaign calling for local authorities to be given exactly those powers.

Val Summerscales, secretary of Bradford Chamber of Trade, said last night: “We are absolutely delighted that somebody is finally waking up to the problem. It is a step in the right direction, especially where there are clusters of shops.

“Local authorities should be able to assess these matters. It is a sensible way forward, especially where several have been allowed to open in an area like Bradford city centre.

“It is something we have been campaigning for, for a long time.”

Councillor Val Slater, the Council’s executive member for housing, planning and transport, said: “We have had concerns about the number of betting shops in Bradford. Up until now we have not had the powers to stop them.

“What we need is a balanced and vibrant high street, without being dominated by any particular shop, particularly betting shops.”

The Right Reverend Tom Butler, who is acting Area Bishop of Bradford, said: “I support any effort which reverses the trend of our high streets becoming a series of betting shops.”

David Ward, MP for Bradford East, also backed the changes and criticised what he described as “proliferation” of betting shops and high-value gaming machines, which will also be subject to change.

He said: “No doubt they offer a wonderful form of entertainment for many people, and who is to say how people should enjoy their time. But I know people have come to my surgery because of gambling problems.

“I don’t think it adds to the high street to have a parade of betting shops. If we do have local discretion, it is a good thing.”

However, Shipley MP Philip Davies said: “I agree with localism so I do not have a problem with decisions being given to local authorities. What I would be concerned about is if Bradford Council does not like bookmakers would it have empty shops instead?

“If it was a choice between Ladbrokes, William Hill or Marks & Spencer, then it would be Marks & Spencer. But if the choice is do you want an empty shop or a betting shop, then you would want a betting shop every time.”

The Government also set out plans to improve protections for players on Fixed Odds Betting Terminals (FOBTs), including making those who want to bet more than £50 in one play to pay over the counter, meaning that they have to interact with staff.

Coun Slater said: “Anything that helps us control that and makes for a better high street is welcomed.”

Planning Minister Nick Boles said: “This is part of a wider set of measures designed to get empty and redundant buildings back into productive use and make it easier for valued town centre businesses like shops, banks and cafes to open new premises, while giving councils greater powers to tackle the harm to local amenity caused by a concentration of particular uses.”

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7:15am Thu 1 May 14

Albion. says...

In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?
In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one? Albion.
  • Score: 4

7:30am Thu 1 May 14

Yorkshire Lass says...

A bit late for Bradford - they have already got their "clusters".
A bit late for Bradford - they have already got their "clusters". Yorkshire Lass
  • Score: 10

8:27am Thu 1 May 14

bd7 helper says...

Council got they thinking cap on
Council got they thinking cap on bd7 helper
  • Score: -3

8:47am Thu 1 May 14

angry bradfordian says...

I was surprised to hear a union leader on the radio last week bemoaning the crackdown on these betting terminals. One of the big chains (think it was William Hill) announced they were closing shops where councils had stopped them installing machines and the shops had become unprofitable.
Let's face it, if the unions are against these closures then there's no chance the council will do anything about it!

Bradford might be the capital of these machines because BBC 5 Live was interviewing Bradford punters yesterday morning. One bloke said he'd lost £100 in half an hour because 'he didn't have anything else to do'!
I was surprised to hear a union leader on the radio last week bemoaning the crackdown on these betting terminals. One of the big chains (think it was William Hill) announced they were closing shops where councils had stopped them installing machines and the shops had become unprofitable. Let's face it, if the unions are against these closures then there's no chance the council will do anything about it! Bradford might be the capital of these machines because BBC 5 Live was interviewing Bradford punters yesterday morning. One bloke said he'd lost £100 in half an hour because 'he didn't have anything else to do'! angry bradfordian
  • Score: 4

9:13am Thu 1 May 14

FinlandStation says...

Albion. wrote:
In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?
I understand Philip Davies' concerns about empty shops, but the Council does have new powers to turn empty shops into accommodation. Homes are much better than betting shops.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?[/p][/quote]I understand Philip Davies' concerns about empty shops, but the Council does have new powers to turn empty shops into accommodation. Homes are much better than betting shops. FinlandStation
  • Score: 10

9:22am Thu 1 May 14

pcmanners says...

This is Socialist nanny-state thinking which will please our Labour Council no end.. People have to be free to do whatever they want with their money. The Government is going soft because of the LibDems. I'm voting UKIP at the next elections.
This is Socialist nanny-state thinking which will please our Labour Council no end.. People have to be free to do whatever they want with their money. The Government is going soft because of the LibDems. I'm voting UKIP at the next elections. pcmanners
  • Score: 4

9:30am Thu 1 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

I don't agree with Philip Davies's take on betting shops, like all major cities Bradford has more than enough of these outlets, much better to keep other retail outlets not in use for other types of businesses. At a time when Bradford's regeneration is at full steam ahead this is a good time to say thanks but no thanks to any more betting shops in the city and these new government rules will certainly help in that.
I don't agree with Philip Davies's take on betting shops, like all major cities Bradford has more than enough of these outlets, much better to keep other retail outlets not in use for other types of businesses. At a time when Bradford's regeneration is at full steam ahead this is a good time to say thanks but no thanks to any more betting shops in the city and these new government rules will certainly help in that. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

10:23am Thu 1 May 14

Not so simple says...

Bradford council: the biggest gamble ever! The public may have chosen you all in city hall but we did not choose you to ruin this city.

Close city hall down
Bradford council: the biggest gamble ever! The public may have chosen you all in city hall but we did not choose you to ruin this city. Close city hall down Not so simple
  • Score: 0

10:39am Thu 1 May 14

allinittogether says...

pcmanners wrote:
This is Socialist nanny-state thinking which will please our Labour Council no end.. People have to be free to do whatever they want with their money. The Government is going soft because of the LibDems. I'm voting UKIP at the next elections.
You do surprise me
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: This is Socialist nanny-state thinking which will please our Labour Council no end.. People have to be free to do whatever they want with their money. The Government is going soft because of the LibDems. I'm voting UKIP at the next elections.[/p][/quote]You do surprise me allinittogether
  • Score: 2

10:50am Thu 1 May 14

JAtkinson says...

The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry. JAtkinson
  • Score: 10

10:56am Thu 1 May 14

Albion. says...

FinlandStation wrote:
Albion. wrote:
In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?
I understand Philip Davies' concerns about empty shops, but the Council does have new powers to turn empty shops into accommodation. Homes are much better than betting shops.
True, but that costs money and in Bradford inner city housing developments haven't usually done very well, some of them are now stuffed with Eastern Europeans and standing empty for a long time.
[quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?[/p][/quote]I understand Philip Davies' concerns about empty shops, but the Council does have new powers to turn empty shops into accommodation. Homes are much better than betting shops.[/p][/quote]True, but that costs money and in Bradford inner city housing developments haven't usually done very well, some of them are now stuffed with Eastern Europeans and standing empty for a long time. Albion.
  • Score: 7

11:16am Thu 1 May 14

Albion. says...

Albion. wrote:
FinlandStation wrote:
Albion. wrote:
In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?
I understand Philip Davies' concerns about empty shops, but the Council does have new powers to turn empty shops into accommodation. Homes are much better than betting shops.
True, but that costs money and in Bradford inner city housing developments haven't usually done very well, some of them are now stuffed with Eastern Europeans and standing empty for a long time.
*after standing empty.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FinlandStation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: In some cases it's going to be a question of which is more detrimental, a bookies shop or an empty one?[/p][/quote]I understand Philip Davies' concerns about empty shops, but the Council does have new powers to turn empty shops into accommodation. Homes are much better than betting shops.[/p][/quote]True, but that costs money and in Bradford inner city housing developments haven't usually done very well, some of them are now stuffed with Eastern Europeans and standing empty for a long time.[/p][/quote]*after standing empty. Albion.
  • Score: 2

12:14pm Thu 1 May 14

Mixter says...

What about the charity and tat shops? At least the bookies frontages are respectable.
What about the charity and tat shops? At least the bookies frontages are respectable. Mixter
  • Score: 1

1:32pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

The Bookies will decide when a town has overkill of shops, they are not stupid.
Remember Bookies do employ a lot of people, who pay taxes, unlike charity shops with volunteers.
The Bookies will decide when a town has overkill of shops, they are not stupid. Remember Bookies do employ a lot of people, who pay taxes, unlike charity shops with volunteers. alive and awake
  • Score: 6

1:38pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
[quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 3

1:46pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about. alive and awake
  • Score: 3

1:49pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -2

1:51pm Thu 1 May 14

Grumpygirl says...

People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.
People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality. Grumpygirl
  • Score: -4

1:58pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.
What a load of rubbish, people gamble for a whole lot of reasons, very few who don't have money will. Unlike the morons who will steal and rob to fuel a drug habit. I would not trust ANYONE who doesn't have the odd wager.
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish, people gamble for a whole lot of reasons, very few who don't have money will. Unlike the morons who will steal and rob to fuel a drug habit. I would not trust ANYONE who doesn't have the odd wager. alive and awake
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money. alive and awake
  • Score: 2

2:07pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -6

2:10pm Thu 1 May 14

pcmanners says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.
People are poor because that is their choice. Rich people are at the top of society because they work hard, poor people do not. People like you; communists, socialists, liberals should be jailed for life.
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.[/p][/quote]People are poor because that is their choice. Rich people are at the top of society because they work hard, poor people do not. People like you; communists, socialists, liberals should be jailed for life. pcmanners
  • Score: 9

2:11pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do. alive and awake
  • Score: 4

2:20pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering?
I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.[/p][/quote]Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering? I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth? RollandSmoke
  • Score: -4

2:22pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
Which Country do you wish you lived in? Which one would satisfy you regarding hand outs?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]Which Country do you wish you lived in? Which one would satisfy you regarding hand outs? alive and awake
  • Score: 3

2:26pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
Which Country do you wish you lived in? Which one would satisfy you regarding hand outs?
You see unlike yourself it isn't all about me. I'm not in it for financial gain. I want a fairer society because if society is corrupt and ridiculously unequal then we are all poorer for it. This is my country and I will fight to make it a fairer country for all.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]Which Country do you wish you lived in? Which one would satisfy you regarding hand outs?[/p][/quote]You see unlike yourself it isn't all about me. I'm not in it for financial gain. I want a fairer society because if society is corrupt and ridiculously unequal then we are all poorer for it. This is my country and I will fight to make it a fairer country for all. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -4

2:26pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering?
I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?
Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.[/p][/quote]Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering? I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?[/p][/quote]Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something? alive and awake
  • Score: 5

2:30pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering?
I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?
Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?
Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.[/p][/quote]Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering? I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?[/p][/quote]Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?[/p][/quote]Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -7

3:04pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering?
I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?
Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?
Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.
So you don't believe in democracy. Well you wouldn't would you?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.[/p][/quote]Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering? I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?[/p][/quote]Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?[/p][/quote]Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.[/p][/quote]So you don't believe in democracy. Well you wouldn't would you? alive and awake
  • Score: 2

3:35pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering?
I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?
Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?
Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.
So you don't believe in democracy. Well you wouldn't would you?
Oh I do I only wish we had some.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.[/p][/quote]Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering? I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?[/p][/quote]Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?[/p][/quote]Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.[/p][/quote]So you don't believe in democracy. Well you wouldn't would you?[/p][/quote]Oh I do I only wish we had some. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -7

4:15pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
JAtkinson wrote:
The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.
Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?
Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption.

I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.
Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.
One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.
If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.
If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.
Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering?
I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?
Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?
Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.
So you don't believe in democracy. Well you wouldn't would you?
Oh I do I only wish we had some.
You are so mixed up and confused
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JAtkinson[/bold] wrote: The only safe bet in Bradford is that Philip Davies MP (sponsored by the gambling industry) will back the gambling industry.[/p][/quote]Well there is that but it isn't like he failed to declare his £10k of "benefits" when he chaired an all party select committee on gambling is it? What's that he didn't say anything because he didn't think he needed to? Well the man's either an idiot or a corrupt barstuard. Which do you think it is? Is there any record of corruption within the Tory party?[/p][/quote]Socialism, Communism, mmmm, it invented corruption. I suspect gambling is another subject you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]Come on if you're getting paid to comment put some effort into it at least.[/p][/quote]One thing for sure if your getting paid to comment, they are not getting value for money.[/p][/quote]If I were getting paid I'd have more chance of getting out of the house more and less chance of commenting. Just something for you right wingers to think about as you are incapable of winning any arguments with me due to the right wing being so obviously corrupt and devoid of reason that you don't have a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]If you were getting paid, would you declare it? and not claim as much as you do.[/p][/quote]Yes as I'm entitled to theraputic earnings up to a certain level but not enough that I would stop pointing out what scum the right wing were. This wouldn't however effect my entitlements not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the level of tax you pay if it did. so If paid more than that allowance I would be busy enjoying my life for a bit. How much were you thinking of offering? I believe Tories charge about £4k to ask a question so what's a comment worth?[/p][/quote]Doesn't the fact that you constantly get voted down tell you something?[/p][/quote]Yes that either the general public are totally stupid or the thumbs system is being manipulated in order to give a false perception of public opinion. I believe it to be the latter. Hello Shipley Conservative club.[/p][/quote]So you don't believe in democracy. Well you wouldn't would you?[/p][/quote]Oh I do I only wish we had some.[/p][/quote]You are so mixed up and confused alive and awake
  • Score: 1

5:26pm Thu 1 May 14

linebacker2 says...

Most local councils are as greedy as jackals, they'll simply use these powers to shake down bookies for section 106 money....
Most local councils are as greedy as jackals, they'll simply use these powers to shake down bookies for section 106 money.... linebacker2
  • Score: 2

7:30pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

pcmanners wrote:
Grumpygirl wrote:
People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.
People are poor because that is their choice. Rich people are at the top of society because they work hard, poor people do not. People like you; communists, socialists, liberals should be jailed for life.
Rich people are rich because the poor work hard and the rich make **** sure that the poor stay poor. Watch the demand for workers suddenly skyrocket now the rich don't have to pay their workers any more. A days graft on a building site would kill most people earning over £40k
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.[/p][/quote]People are poor because that is their choice. Rich people are at the top of society because they work hard, poor people do not. People like you; communists, socialists, liberals should be jailed for life.[/p][/quote]Rich people are rich because the poor work hard and the rich make **** sure that the poor stay poor. Watch the demand for workers suddenly skyrocket now the rich don't have to pay their workers any more. A days graft on a building site would kill most people earning over £40k RollandSmoke
  • Score: -8

7:41pm Thu 1 May 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Grumpygirl wrote:
People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.
People are poor because that is their choice. Rich people are at the top of society because they work hard, poor people do not. People like you; communists, socialists, liberals should be jailed for life.
Rich people are rich because the poor work hard and the rich make **** sure that the poor stay poor. Watch the demand for workers suddenly skyrocket now the rich don't have to pay their workers any more. A days graft on a building site would kill most people earning over £40k
Why would anyone who can earn £40k want work on a building site, although the hours are very attractive. Roll up 9am breakfast 10 until 10-30 lunch 1pm until 1-45 down tools 3-55pm, 2-30 on a Friday then work Sat morning because the job is falling behind.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: People will always gamble because they see it as the only way to escape from the poverty, inequality and unfairness of the Tory State. Unfortunately closing the shops won't stop them, it will just drive them underground. Probably better to keep the shops open and spend the taxes on progressive socialist policies designed to rid us of of the inequality.[/p][/quote]People are poor because that is their choice. Rich people are at the top of society because they work hard, poor people do not. People like you; communists, socialists, liberals should be jailed for life.[/p][/quote]Rich people are rich because the poor work hard and the rich make **** sure that the poor stay poor. Watch the demand for workers suddenly skyrocket now the rich don't have to pay their workers any more. A days graft on a building site would kill most people earning over £40k[/p][/quote]Why would anyone who can earn £40k want work on a building site, although the hours are very attractive. Roll up 9am breakfast 10 until 10-30 lunch 1pm until 1-45 down tools 3-55pm, 2-30 on a Friday then work Sat morning because the job is falling behind. alive and awake
  • Score: 5

9:03pm Thu 1 May 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

I find it a bit rich that New Liebour politicians are bemoaning the amount of gambling establishments when it was the Liebour party who brought in the Gambling Act 2005 and allowed the wholesale expansion of the industry in general.
It is in the interest of the Liebour party to keep the poor, poor. Otherwise who else ( apart from the imported army of immigrants they've let in ) would vote for the hypocritical bunch of losers.
I find it a bit rich that New Liebour politicians are bemoaning the amount of gambling establishments when it was the Liebour party who brought in the Gambling Act 2005 and allowed the wholesale expansion of the industry in general. It is in the interest of the Liebour party to keep the poor, poor. Otherwise who else ( apart from the imported army of immigrants they've let in ) would vote for the hypocritical bunch of losers. Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: 5

10:22pm Thu 1 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

Alhaurinrhino wrote:
I find it a bit rich that New Liebour politicians are bemoaning the amount of gambling establishments when it was the Liebour party who brought in the Gambling Act 2005 and allowed the wholesale expansion of the industry in general.
It is in the interest of the Liebour party to keep the poor, poor. Otherwise who else ( apart from the imported army of immigrants they've let in ) would vote for the hypocritical bunch of losers.
Was that because they'd jumped to the right and were following a Thatcherite agenda? Os this the best we can do? I know lets try something else. Who do you vote for to make that happen?
[quote][p][bold]Alhaurinrhino[/bold] wrote: I find it a bit rich that New Liebour politicians are bemoaning the amount of gambling establishments when it was the Liebour party who brought in the Gambling Act 2005 and allowed the wholesale expansion of the industry in general. It is in the interest of the Liebour party to keep the poor, poor. Otherwise who else ( apart from the imported army of immigrants they've let in ) would vote for the hypocritical bunch of losers.[/p][/quote]Was that because they'd jumped to the right and were following a Thatcherite agenda? Os this the best we can do? I know lets try something else. Who do you vote for to make that happen? RollandSmoke
  • Score: -11

11:03pm Thu 1 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

I don't agree with Philip Davies's take on betting shops, like all major cities Bradford has more than enough of these outlets, much better to keep other retail outlets not in use for other types of businesses. At a time when Bradford's regeneration is at full steam ahead this is a good time to say thanks but no thanks to any more betting shops in the city and these new government rules will certainly help in that.
I don't agree with Philip Davies's take on betting shops, like all major cities Bradford has more than enough of these outlets, much better to keep other retail outlets not in use for other types of businesses. At a time when Bradford's regeneration is at full steam ahead this is a good time to say thanks but no thanks to any more betting shops in the city and these new government rules will certainly help in that. bcfc1903
  • Score: 3

9:04pm Mon 5 May 14

gracie field says...

Obviously Philip and his friends have been busy on this comment section again. Wonder if his live in big mouthed Tory bike is one of them?

Why is it every time the Tories are struggling one of them starts spouting "it wasn't us it was them" like school kids?

I think after years in charge they could have changed things if they were so against them.

Thing is once they are in they make things 50 times worse than it was under the previous party. And if they are ever proved wrong they just change the law and backdate it. Tory party members are all in it for what they can gain for themselves and who ever is paying them the most.

Lastly the only reason Roly is voted down so often is because more Tories read these papers. Simple really isn't it.
Obviously Philip and his friends have been busy on this comment section again. Wonder if his live in big mouthed Tory bike is one of them? Why is it every time the Tories are struggling one of them starts spouting "it wasn't us it was them" like school kids? I think after years in charge they could have changed things if they were so against them. Thing is once they are in they make things 50 times worse than it was under the previous party. And if they are ever proved wrong they just change the law and backdate it. Tory party members are all in it for what they can gain for themselves and who ever is paying them the most. Lastly the only reason Roly is voted down so often is because more Tories read these papers. Simple really isn't it. gracie field
  • Score: -2

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