Anger at increase in flytipping in Little Horton, Bradford

CONCERNS: Resident Ian Thompson who is angry at the rise of flytipping in the Little Horton area of Bradford

CONCERNS: Resident Ian Thompson who is angry at the rise of flytipping in the Little Horton area of Bradford

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The owner of private land blighted by flytippers has been served notice to clear it by Bradford Council.

Residents have been left angered at mounting levels of rubbish being dumped by their homes behind Chislehurst Place and Pennington Terrace, Little Horton, Bradford.

And they fear no-one is taking responsibilty to deal with it.

Ian Thompson, of Chislehurst Place, said: “It’s absolutely disgusting out there.

“I open my curtains and that’s the first and only thing I see. At the moment, it is the worst it’s ever been.

“The Council used to clear up the area every few months, but I spoke to them recently and they said they don’t know who owns the land and they’ve no intention of clearing it.”

Mr Thompson said an increasing amount of old furniture and white goods had been dumped at the site in recent months, which he feels now poses a health and safety hazard.

“Someone obviously had new windows fitted a few weeks ago and they’ve just dumped all the old stuff here,” he said. “Since then everyone else has been dumping their rubbish too. It gets worse every day.

“I saw one person wheel a piano down from their house to the site and I stopped someone else throwing some old chairs there.

“We’ve looked at some deeds and they show only a very small part is owned by the home owners and so the authorities are surely responsible.

“It could easily be blocked off to stop people, but the Council obviously can’t be bothered.”

Steve Hartley, Bradford Council’s interim director for environment and sport, said it was working with residents to try to identify and prosecute those responsible for fly-tipping, and scotched any suggestions that introduction of residents’ permits for Household Waste Recyling Centres had led to an increase in the problem across the district.

“This area is privately-owned and Bradford Council is not responsible for clearing private land,” he said.

“We have identified the owner and in March we served notice for it to be cleared.

“However, this notice does not expire until later this month.

“If it is not cleared by then we will follow up the notice with enforcement action.”

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6:28am Wed 16 Apr 14

Tommyl says...

I can't believe that people are getting away dumping like this! Take a photograph of the vehicles, police should step up patrols, install CTV, hire a security guard for a week. There are lots of options but the authorities are as usual impotent! I bet if stuff was dumped at the flagship City Square the fly tippers would be stopped straight away!
I can't believe that people are getting away dumping like this! Take a photograph of the vehicles, police should step up patrols, install CTV, hire a security guard for a week. There are lots of options but the authorities are as usual impotent! I bet if stuff was dumped at the flagship City Square the fly tippers would be stopped straight away! Tommyl
  • Score: 2

7:13am Wed 16 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

In the vast majority of these cases it's the local residents that are doing the fly tipping.
In the vast majority of these cases it's the local residents that are doing the fly tipping. linebacker2
  • Score: 13

7:40am Wed 16 Apr 14

bd7 helper says...

Council have no money and are struggling to cope
Council have no money and are struggling to cope bd7 helper
  • Score: 3

8:01am Wed 16 Apr 14

Ratters Rat says...

Bradford council are doing very little to solve the problem. All I see are these street wardens acting like little hitlers. They targeted some people near where I live for rubbish many are pensioners when they asked for help the councils attitude not our problem we will fine you if you don't move it.
So Bradford Council pin your eats back and listen why not go back to community clean ups you provide skips and bin wagons. The councillors get out in the community and meet the people who put you there. And in some cases they didn't. Get local churches and other community to join in and advertising from the T & A local radio stations ect. And let make a difference. For the street wardens do your job and stop the threats.
Bradford council are doing very little to solve the problem. All I see are these street wardens acting like little hitlers. They targeted some people near where I live for rubbish many are pensioners when they asked for help the councils attitude not our problem we will fine you if you don't move it. So Bradford Council pin your eats back and listen why not go back to community clean ups you provide skips and bin wagons. The councillors get out in the community and meet the people who put you there. And in some cases they didn't. Get local churches and other community to join in and advertising from the T & A local radio stations ect. And let make a difference. For the street wardens do your job and stop the threats. Ratters Rat
  • Score: 3

8:32am Wed 16 Apr 14

northern pig says...

Ratters Rat wrote:
Bradford council are doing very little to solve the problem. All I see are these street wardens acting like little hitlers. They targeted some people near where I live for rubbish many are pensioners when they asked for help the councils attitude not our problem we will fine you if you don't move it.
So Bradford Council pin your eats back and listen why not go back to community clean ups you provide skips and bin wagons. The councillors get out in the community and meet the people who put you there. And in some cases they didn't. Get local churches and other community to join in and advertising from the T & A local radio stations ect. And let make a difference. For the street wardens do your job and stop the threats.
There is no excuse for fly tipping,much of it is caused by 'cowboys' doing building work,house clearances and gardening etc.They do not want to pay the tariff for bulk waste.If you are a council tax paying resident,the council will remove bulk items for you if you ring them up to arrange collection.
In places where there is repeat offending covert cctv could be the answer but if it is dumped on private land,it is quite rightly the responsibility of the land owner.
[quote][p][bold]Ratters Rat[/bold] wrote: Bradford council are doing very little to solve the problem. All I see are these street wardens acting like little hitlers. They targeted some people near where I live for rubbish many are pensioners when they asked for help the councils attitude not our problem we will fine you if you don't move it. So Bradford Council pin your eats back and listen why not go back to community clean ups you provide skips and bin wagons. The councillors get out in the community and meet the people who put you there. And in some cases they didn't. Get local churches and other community to join in and advertising from the T & A local radio stations ect. And let make a difference. For the street wardens do your job and stop the threats.[/p][/quote]There is no excuse for fly tipping,much of it is caused by 'cowboys' doing building work,house clearances and gardening etc.They do not want to pay the tariff for bulk waste.If you are a council tax paying resident,the council will remove bulk items for you if you ring them up to arrange collection. In places where there is repeat offending covert cctv could be the answer but if it is dumped on private land,it is quite rightly the responsibility of the land owner. northern pig
  • Score: 9

9:00am Wed 16 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Cllr Thorntons idea of a permit clearly doesn't work. The longer he persists with it and thinks all is ok the worse this will become. He is too stuborn to admit he has dropped a bollok and sticking with the idea is costing far more money than it ever was initially susposed to save.

If it is working come out with the figures Cllr. You know you can't as the figure like most was plucked out of thin air and has no substance to it.
Cllr Thorntons idea of a permit clearly doesn't work. The longer he persists with it and thinks all is ok the worse this will become. He is too stuborn to admit he has dropped a bollok and sticking with the idea is costing far more money than it ever was initially susposed to save. If it is working come out with the figures Cllr. You know you can't as the figure like most was plucked out of thin air and has no substance to it. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 1

9:53am Wed 16 Apr 14

justjustice says...

I'd like to know how anyone in the Bradford district can tell there has been an increase at all?! The entire place is a fly tip thanks to the council's great efforts to rejuvenate the district.
I'd like to know how anyone in the Bradford district can tell there has been an increase at all?! The entire place is a fly tip thanks to the council's great efforts to rejuvenate the district. justjustice
  • Score: 3

10:11am Wed 16 Apr 14

Tinybantam says...

justjustice wrote:
I'd like to know how anyone in the Bradford district can tell there has been an increase at all?! The entire place is a fly tip thanks to the council's great efforts to rejuvenate the district.
Agreed......just drive around the back streets of Manningham, Girlington, Little Horton, Great Horton......hang on a minutes.......the whole city, and all you will see is one big entire fly tip. The city and the majority of its people have no pride in it any more. Thank goodness I am out of it.
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know how anyone in the Bradford district can tell there has been an increase at all?! The entire place is a fly tip thanks to the council's great efforts to rejuvenate the district.[/p][/quote]Agreed......just drive around the back streets of Manningham, Girlington, Little Horton, Great Horton......hang on a minutes.......the whole city, and all you will see is one big entire fly tip. The city and the majority of its people have no pride in it any more. Thank goodness I am out of it. Tinybantam
  • Score: 2

10:40am Wed 16 Apr 14

Albion. says...

We have had fly-tipping for many years (remember Wilson Road Wyke), I don't think that decent people would do it and while the permit situation will have made some difference, this will always go on whatever is done. While it is the land owners responsibility ultimately, would they be allowed to secure the land against further tipping? Very doubtful! So maybe it might be fair if the council cleared it?
We have had fly-tipping for many years (remember Wilson Road Wyke), I don't think that decent people would do it and while the permit situation will have made some difference, this will always go on whatever is done. While it is the land owners responsibility ultimately, would they be allowed to secure the land against further tipping? Very doubtful! So maybe it might be fair if the council cleared it? Albion.
  • Score: 8

11:53am Wed 16 Apr 14

sorrow&anger says...

I fear we have all significantly underestimated Cllr. Thornton. When his parking-scam revenue opportunities were curtailed he came up with the tip permit scheme.

This encourages fly-tipping on private land so the owners, and not the Council, have to pay to take it away. If it is deemed trade waste there is another fee to pay, and, as the cherry on the cake, he can now fine the landowners for having the rubbish on their land.

It's an all round money spinner. Man's a genius!
I fear we have all significantly underestimated Cllr. Thornton. When his parking-scam revenue opportunities were curtailed he came up with the tip permit scheme. This encourages fly-tipping on private land so the owners, and not the Council, have to pay to take it away. If it is deemed trade waste there is another fee to pay, and, as the cherry on the cake, he can now fine the landowners for having the rubbish on their land. It's an all round money spinner. Man's a genius! sorrow&anger
  • Score: 8

1:20pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Apollo says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
I fear we have all significantly underestimated Cllr. Thornton. When his parking-scam revenue opportunities were curtailed he came up with the tip permit scheme. This encourages fly-tipping on private land so the owners, and not the Council, have to pay to take it away. If it is deemed trade waste there is another fee to pay, and, as the cherry on the cake, he can now fine the landowners for having the rubbish on their land. It's an all round money spinner. Man's a genius!
I rather suspect that rather than the Councillor being a genius what we have is an example of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

This Law is of of the few which is hardly ever broken in Bradford especially where Council is concerned.

The problem is not genius but a lack of thinking through any initiative to its logical conclusion.
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: I fear we have all significantly underestimated Cllr. Thornton. When his parking-scam revenue opportunities were curtailed he came up with the tip permit scheme. This encourages fly-tipping on private land so the owners, and not the Council, have to pay to take it away. If it is deemed trade waste there is another fee to pay, and, as the cherry on the cake, he can now fine the landowners for having the rubbish on their land. It's an all round money spinner. Man's a genius![/p][/quote]I rather suspect that rather than the Councillor being a genius what we have is an example of the Law of Unintended Consequences. This Law is of of the few which is hardly ever broken in Bradford especially where Council is concerned. The problem is not genius but a lack of thinking through any initiative to its logical conclusion. Apollo
  • Score: 1

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