East Bierley joiner tells of terror as he feared Japanes Akita dog would rip off arm in Undercliffe attack

Jamie Farrell

Jamie's wounded arm

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A father-of-two savaged by a Japanese Akita as he worked has told how he feared the dog would tear his arm off.

The horrific attack happened as self-employed joiner Jamie Farrell, 27, went to get tools out of his van parked at the back of a house in Pollard Lane, Undercliffe, Bradford.

Speaking from hospital, Mr Farrell said the Akita was being walked on a lead by a boy of about six when it broke free and lunged at him.

He has been left with gaping wounds exposing his right arm to the bone.

He said: “It happened in just seconds. I was walking down the path to the back gate when I saw it in the gap, it just jumped at me. The lad couldn’t hold it, it was too powerful for him.”

Mr Farrell, who lives with his wife Joanne, 25, and their daughter, three, and 11-month-old son at Mulberry Close, East Bierley, said he was filled with terror and his only thought was trying to save his arm.

Now he is waiting for follow-up surgery and skin grafts after undergoing an initial operation to clean the deep wounds he suffered in the attack last Thursday which might leave him scarred for life.

“I knew the Akita was doing me serious damage. It was going crazy and I was tugging at its collar to pull it off but then it went for my leg. When I got it off my leg it went back for my arm, I was bleeding badly,” he said.

Mr Farrell added: “Somehow the little lad must have managed to get the dog back and disappeared. I got myself back into the house and was given towels to try to stop the blood. It was scary.

“I like dogs, I grew up with them and I’ve had Labradors and Dobermans. A neighbour had Rotweillers and Akitas before and I’ve always got on with them.

“I didn’t do anything to provoke the dog that went for me, it happened so quickly. I feel sick about it. I’ve still got my arm but I can’t move it much. I’m waiting to see what the doctors say.

“My arm is my livelihood, I need it to do my job and look after my family.”

Yesterday Mr Farrell was still waiting for follow-up surgery at Bradford Royal Infirmary, after the operation was delayed on Sunday night.

He said: “I just want to get on the mend and get home.

“My daughter’s missing me, she knows that it was a nasty dog that did this.

“We’re waiting to hear from the police what’s happening with the dog. I’ve got nothing against Akitas but they have to be controlled. With the size of that dog and the size of the little lad who was out with it, he didn’t have a chance of stopping what it did to me.”

Sergeant Rick Newton, of the Bowling and Barkerend Neighbourhood Policing Team, said officers were called by paramedics to Pollard Lane to reports of a man being bitten by a dog at about 4.30pm on Thursday.

He said: “The man was taken to hospital with arm injuries, while officers made inquiries as to who owned the animal. Inquiries are now ongoing to establish whether any offences have occurred.”

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7:20am Tue 15 Apr 14

Albion. says...

" Inquiries are now ongoing to establish whether any offences have occurred.”
Really?
I hope he makes a FULL recovery and the beast is destroyed before we get a repeat of this.
" Inquiries are now ongoing to establish whether any offences have occurred.” Really? I hope he makes a FULL recovery and the beast is destroyed before we get a repeat of this. Albion.
  • Score: 45

7:45am Tue 15 Apr 14

Postman pedro says...

Poor man.
Poor man. Postman pedro
  • Score: 23

7:47am Tue 15 Apr 14

Postman pedro says...

Hope you get well soon mate. And the dog gets put down. More has to be done regarding dangerous dogs, once again it comes down to the owners.
Hope you get well soon mate. And the dog gets put down. More has to be done regarding dangerous dogs, once again it comes down to the owners. Postman pedro
  • Score: 36

8:25am Tue 15 Apr 14

Baildon girl says...

Hope he makes a speedy recovery.

Why on earth was a child of that age out alone with dog like an Akita? I wouldnt trust my 6 year old with our westie let alone a dog of that size. The owners/parents are to blame hope the police manage to track them don and something is done
Hope he makes a speedy recovery. Why on earth was a child of that age out alone with dog like an Akita? I wouldnt trust my 6 year old with our westie let alone a dog of that size. The owners/parents are to blame hope the police manage to track them don and something is done Baildon girl
  • Score: 44

9:04am Tue 15 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

As always it comes down to the owners. Far too many irresponsible dog owners about I'm affraid. I'm tempted to suggest mandatory licences for dog owners but this would be difficult to police and most likely ignored by the very people who would be prevented from keeping dogs if such as system was in place. There should be prison sentences for the owners when their dog seriously attacks someone.
I think most dogs in this 'nation of animal lovers' are not properly cared for. Dogs need a decent walk at least twice a day, not just letting out in the back yard for 15 minutes in a morning like many get.
As always it comes down to the owners. Far too many irresponsible dog owners about I'm affraid. I'm tempted to suggest mandatory licences for dog owners but this would be difficult to police and most likely ignored by the very people who would be prevented from keeping dogs if such as system was in place. There should be prison sentences for the owners when their dog seriously attacks someone. I think most dogs in this 'nation of animal lovers' are not properly cared for. Dogs need a decent walk at least twice a day, not just letting out in the back yard for 15 minutes in a morning like many get. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 21

9:12am Tue 15 Apr 14

alive and awake says...

Put the dog down, sue the owner for every penny he has and % of everything he ever has. How many times are we to hear about incidents like this?
Put the dog down, sue the owner for every penny he has and % of everything he ever has. How many times are we to hear about incidents like this? alive and awake
  • Score: 31

9:38am Tue 15 Apr 14

mad matt says...

You regularly see huge dogs taking their owners out for 'walkies', the owners quite obviously have no control over these dogs, as the dog, which is most likely heavier and stronger, is just pulling the owner down the street.
Some form of licencing or mandatory training has got to be introduced somehow.
You regularly see huge dogs taking their owners out for 'walkies', the owners quite obviously have no control over these dogs, as the dog, which is most likely heavier and stronger, is just pulling the owner down the street. Some form of licencing or mandatory training has got to be introduced somehow. mad matt
  • Score: 22

9:52am Tue 15 Apr 14

Ratters Rat says...

Simple solution ALL dogs should firstly be micro-chipped. Secondly ALL owners should be required to have the following insurance and a licence to keep a dog.
Its not the dogs fault its bad owners who have little knowledge of how to keep an animal.
Having been brought up with English Bull Terriers( these dogs are given a very bad press) I was taught from a young age to respect the animal. That the dogs were not toys.And not to torment the animals.
We also breed them and my family would always check the homes they were going to and if they had any doubts about the potential owners would say sorry no.
Simple solution ALL dogs should firstly be micro-chipped. Secondly ALL owners should be required to have the following insurance and a licence to keep a dog. Its not the dogs fault its bad owners who have little knowledge of how to keep an animal. Having been brought up with English Bull Terriers( these dogs are given a very bad press) I was taught from a young age to respect the animal. That the dogs were not toys.And not to torment the animals. We also breed them and my family would always check the homes they were going to and if they had any doubts about the potential owners would say sorry no. Ratters Rat
  • Score: 25

10:15am Tue 15 Apr 14

The Hoffster says...

...the Akita was being walked on a lead by a boy of about *SIX*...


WTF?!!!!
[quote]...the Akita was being walked on a lead by a boy of about *SIX*... [/quote] WTF?!!!! The Hoffster
  • Score: 16

10:43am Tue 15 Apr 14

Old Peculiar says...

This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society.

How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners. Old Peculiar
  • Score: 3

10:46am Tue 15 Apr 14

mr-dog says...

BAN THE JAPANESE AKITA NOW!

I am sick of these horrible, vicious dogs and the idiots that strut around with them.

How many more people have to get attacked by them? Enough is enough.
BAN THE JAPANESE AKITA NOW! I am sick of these horrible, vicious dogs and the idiots that strut around with them. How many more people have to get attacked by them? Enough is enough. mr-dog
  • Score: 12

10:57am Tue 15 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.
[quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 10

11:00am Tue 15 Apr 14

bd7 helper says...

We need a new law on DOG owners before it's too late?
We need a new law on DOG owners before it's too late? bd7 helper
  • Score: 16

11:18am Tue 15 Apr 14

Albion. says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.
While that is true, Akitas were bred to hunt and bring down large animals, whereas Labradors were bred to retrieve shot game birds.
Obviously a big powerful dog with a big strong jaw will be more life threatening than a smaller breed.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.[/p][/quote]While that is true, Akitas were bred to hunt and bring down large animals, whereas Labradors were bred to retrieve shot game birds. Obviously a big powerful dog with a big strong jaw will be more life threatening than a smaller breed. Albion.
  • Score: 4

11:30am Tue 15 Apr 14

Ooraks says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.
Actually more people are sent to hospital with Labrador bites than any other breeds, but they are not considered dangerous. I once got attached by a Jack Russell and a Yorkie, should these be considered dangerous too?
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.[/p][/quote]Actually more people are sent to hospital with Labrador bites than any other breeds, but they are not considered dangerous. I once got attached by a Jack Russell and a Yorkie, should these be considered dangerous too? Ooraks
  • Score: -2

11:33am Tue 15 Apr 14

Ooraks says...

mr-dog wrote:
BAN THE JAPANESE AKITA NOW!

I am sick of these horrible, vicious dogs and the idiots that strut around with them.

How many more people have to get attacked by them? Enough is enough.
It wont make a difference, if they were to get banned they would just find another large breed of dog.

Once upon a time it was rottweilers, then dobermans, then bull terriers, now its the akitas, None of these breeds are truly dangerous. The dangerous ones are the wusses who keep them as "status symbols".
[quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: BAN THE JAPANESE AKITA NOW! I am sick of these horrible, vicious dogs and the idiots that strut around with them. How many more people have to get attacked by them? Enough is enough.[/p][/quote]It wont make a difference, if they were to get banned they would just find another large breed of dog. Once upon a time it was rottweilers, then dobermans, then bull terriers, now its the akitas, None of these breeds are truly dangerous. The dangerous ones are the wusses who keep them as "status symbols". Ooraks
  • Score: 14

12:11pm Tue 15 Apr 14

The Hoffster says...

Ooraks wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.
Actually more people are sent to hospital with Labrador bites than any other breeds, but they are not considered dangerous. I once got attached by a Jack Russell and a Yorkie, should these be considered dangerous too?
When in the vicinity of children or other vulnerable people, yes.
[quote][p][bold]Ooraks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.[/p][/quote]Actually more people are sent to hospital with Labrador bites than any other breeds, but they are not considered dangerous. I once got attached by a Jack Russell and a Yorkie, should these be considered dangerous too?[/p][/quote]When in the vicinity of children or other vulnerable people, yes. The Hoffster
  • Score: 6

12:12pm Tue 15 Apr 14

The Hoffster says...

BTw, in that second pic, is it me or does that 'arm' look like a leg ?
BTw, in that second pic, is it me or does that 'arm' look like a leg ? The Hoffster
  • Score: 2

12:16pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Ooraks says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Ooraks wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.
Actually more people are sent to hospital with Labrador bites than any other breeds, but they are not considered dangerous. I once got attached by a Jack Russell and a Yorkie, should these be considered dangerous too?
When in the vicinity of children or other vulnerable people, yes.
Agreed. No child should be left unsupervised with any dog. This is a good example of when parents need to foot some responsibility. Clearly the parents of this child should never be allowed to keep dogs if they think letting their 6YO out with a bog strong dog is acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ooraks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]Most breeds are capable of carrying out this kind of attack. A labrador could easily inflict this kind of damage if it had the inclination to do it.[/p][/quote]Actually more people are sent to hospital with Labrador bites than any other breeds, but they are not considered dangerous. I once got attached by a Jack Russell and a Yorkie, should these be considered dangerous too?[/p][/quote]When in the vicinity of children or other vulnerable people, yes.[/p][/quote]Agreed. No child should be left unsupervised with any dog. This is a good example of when parents need to foot some responsibility. Clearly the parents of this child should never be allowed to keep dogs if they think letting their 6YO out with a bog strong dog is acceptable. Ooraks
  • Score: 7

12:20pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Stick or something up a dogs bum will distract them enough if they have their jaws clamped onto someone.

The law really needs changing to make owners far more accountable. It shouldn't matter if the dog is classed as a dangerous breed or not, if it attacks someone then the owner should be prosecuted as if they carried out the attack.

the owner of this dog should be prosecuted for ABH and also child neglect! Fancy letting a 6yo walk a dog like that, the child really needs to be taken into care to protect it from such idiotic parents.
Stick or something up a dogs bum will distract them enough if they have their jaws clamped onto someone. The law really needs changing to make owners far more accountable. It shouldn't matter if the dog is classed as a dangerous breed or not, if it attacks someone then the owner should be prosecuted as if they carried out the attack. the owner of this dog should be prosecuted for ABH and also child neglect! Fancy letting a 6yo walk a dog like that, the child really needs to be taken into care to protect it from such idiotic parents. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 9

12:48pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Not so simple says...

Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society.

How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
There are a fair few people who are a danger to themselves and others: your suggestion is to what again? Your logic is well below par today:: have some weetabix and think about what you are proposing.

Secondly owners of dogs should be trained further in handling dogs: it's a shame that we see youngsters walking such dangerous dogs but it boils down to the upbringing of the dogs and the upbringing of the owners and it's kids.

The police should be allowed to take dogs off anyone they deem too young or stupid to walk a dog: just take a walk in the various parks in the district and you will see youngsters/teenagers and adults showing their dogs off as status symbols: they want to show others that they have the baddest and most dangerous dog; what a flipping joke!
[quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]There are a fair few people who are a danger to themselves and others: your suggestion is to what again? Your logic is well below par today:: have some weetabix and think about what you are proposing. Secondly owners of dogs should be trained further in handling dogs: it's a shame that we see youngsters walking such dangerous dogs but it boils down to the upbringing of the dogs and the upbringing of the owners and it's kids. The police should be allowed to take dogs off anyone they deem too young or stupid to walk a dog: just take a walk in the various parks in the district and you will see youngsters/teenagers and adults showing their dogs off as status symbols: they want to show others that they have the baddest and most dangerous dog; what a flipping joke! Not so simple
  • Score: 7

12:49pm Tue 15 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

There's a couple of deaths due to faulty electrical works and suddenly legislation is brought in that even trivial electrical works have to be licensed. Dogs are causing deaths and injuries on a daily basis yet any idiot can and does go and get these creatures!
There's a couple of deaths due to faulty electrical works and suddenly legislation is brought in that even trivial electrical works have to be licensed. Dogs are causing deaths and injuries on a daily basis yet any idiot can and does go and get these creatures! linebacker2
  • Score: 8

12:57pm Tue 15 Apr 14

justjustice says...

First it was pitbulls and now these. The only reason some people have these dogs is because they know they are dangerous dogs!

When I was was younger all the young white racist youths were walking their pitbulls intimidating asians. now I see more asians youths walking their akitas intimidating everyone!

I believe there is already a law being passed where all dogs much be fitted with chips, but that isnt enough!

I got a kitten a few years ago, I would have preferred to get one from a cat rescue centre, but once I read the extensive process where the owner will be interviewed and their home checked to make sure the kitten would be going to a safe home I backed off. I didnt want to go through that process just for a kitten!
But I believe such a process should be mandatory and all dogs, dangerous or not, must be licensed and the owner's interviewed, their past checked as well as their general attitudes to different types of people!

I have my cat chipped and it isnt mandatory, the benefits outweigh the cost, the only reason I see people not wanting to chip and license their dogs are either because they abuse animals or they use their dogs for intimidating others!
First it was pitbulls and now these. The only reason some people have these dogs is because they know they are dangerous dogs! When I was was younger all the young white racist youths were walking their pitbulls intimidating asians. now I see more asians youths walking their akitas intimidating everyone! I believe there is already a law being passed where all dogs much be fitted with chips, but that isnt enough! I got a kitten a few years ago, I would have preferred to get one from a cat rescue centre, but once I read the extensive process where the owner will be interviewed and their home checked to make sure the kitten would be going to a safe home I backed off. I didnt want to go through that process just for a kitten! But I believe such a process should be mandatory and all dogs, dangerous or not, must be licensed and the owner's interviewed, their past checked as well as their general attitudes to different types of people! I have my cat chipped and it isnt mandatory, the benefits outweigh the cost, the only reason I see people not wanting to chip and license their dogs are either because they abuse animals or they use their dogs for intimidating others! justjustice
  • Score: -3

1:12pm Tue 15 Apr 14

BILLTILL says...

Not so simple wrote:
Old Peculiar wrote:
This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society.

How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
There are a fair few people who are a danger to themselves and others: your suggestion is to what again? Your logic is well below par today:: have some weetabix and think about what you are proposing.

Secondly owners of dogs should be trained further in handling dogs: it's a shame that we see youngsters walking such dangerous dogs but it boils down to the upbringing of the dogs and the upbringing of the owners and it's kids.

The police should be allowed to take dogs off anyone they deem too young or stupid to walk a dog: just take a walk in the various parks in the district and you will see youngsters/teenagers and adults showing their dogs off as status symbols: they want to show others that they have the baddest and most dangerous dog; what a flipping joke!
The problem is that in most cases these types of dog including Pitt Bulls etc have a higher IQ than their owners ! It is the same old brainless idiots you see walking down the road with their attack dog ,ban the dogs and stop the owners from breeding to produce more of their inbred selves !!!
[quote][p][bold]Not so simple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]There are a fair few people who are a danger to themselves and others: your suggestion is to what again? Your logic is well below par today:: have some weetabix and think about what you are proposing. Secondly owners of dogs should be trained further in handling dogs: it's a shame that we see youngsters walking such dangerous dogs but it boils down to the upbringing of the dogs and the upbringing of the owners and it's kids. The police should be allowed to take dogs off anyone they deem too young or stupid to walk a dog: just take a walk in the various parks in the district and you will see youngsters/teenagers and adults showing their dogs off as status symbols: they want to show others that they have the baddest and most dangerous dog; what a flipping joke![/p][/quote]The problem is that in most cases these types of dog including Pitt Bulls etc have a higher IQ than their owners ! It is the same old brainless idiots you see walking down the road with their attack dog ,ban the dogs and stop the owners from breeding to produce more of their inbred selves !!! BILLTILL
  • Score: 8

3:29pm Tue 15 Apr 14

amanda1666 says...

Irresponsible dog ownership. Yet again a poor animal destroyed and someone injured because the owner is an idiot. We have a dangerous dog next door but one. He is some kind of mastiff and is only 12 months old. I have known him and tried to be friendly since he was a pup. He has bitten me four times now, not badly, as he did not get the chance. However, he turned aggressive in the street with me and now I avoid him like the plague. The owner is a moron. I reported him to the dog warden and told him so as he is letting his dog out at night to roam, frightening neighbours', who responsibly walk their dogs. letting it pooh everywhere. Honestly, sooner or later I fear we may hear of this dog. I found out today I was not alone in this as other, responsible dog owners are concerned as well. These dogs are not family pets, they are guard dogs. I do know of a few Akitas who are the most charming animals and full of love and great with kids, but that is because they are loved and given their needs. Any animal can and will turn. The owner should be barred for life. Also inbreeding!! Idiots breeding dogs without knowledge to make a few thousand quid. DISGUSTING
Irresponsible dog ownership. Yet again a poor animal destroyed and someone injured because the owner is an idiot. We have a dangerous dog next door but one. He is some kind of mastiff and is only 12 months old. I have known him and tried to be friendly since he was a pup. He has bitten me four times now, not badly, as he did not get the chance. However, he turned aggressive in the street with me and now I avoid him like the plague. The owner is a moron. I reported him to the dog warden and told him so as he is letting his dog out at night to roam, frightening neighbours', who responsibly walk their dogs. letting it pooh everywhere. Honestly, sooner or later I fear we may hear of this dog. I found out today I was not alone in this as other, responsible dog owners are concerned as well. These dogs are not family pets, they are guard dogs. I do know of a few Akitas who are the most charming animals and full of love and great with kids, but that is because they are loved and given their needs. Any animal can and will turn. The owner should be barred for life. Also inbreeding!! Idiots breeding dogs without knowledge to make a few thousand quid. DISGUSTING amanda1666
  • Score: 8

3:35pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Old Peculiar says...

BILLTILL wrote:
Not so simple wrote:
Old Peculiar wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.
There are a fair few people who are a danger to themselves and others: your suggestion is to what again? Your logic is well below par today:: have some weetabix and think about what you are proposing. Secondly owners of dogs should be trained further in handling dogs: it's a shame that we see youngsters walking such dangerous dogs but it boils down to the upbringing of the dogs and the upbringing of the owners and it's kids. The police should be allowed to take dogs off anyone they deem too young or stupid to walk a dog: just take a walk in the various parks in the district and you will see youngsters/teenagers and adults showing their dogs off as status symbols: they want to show others that they have the baddest and most dangerous dog; what a flipping joke!
The problem is that in most cases these types of dog including Pitt Bulls etc have a higher IQ than their owners ! It is the same old brainless idiots you see walking down the road with their attack dog ,ban the dogs and stop the owners from breeding to produce more of their inbred selves !!!
Compulsory training for dog owners / liscencing / micro-chipping..... none of these will stop mindless tw@ts keeping this type of dog - because their intention is to look "hard", so they are unlikely to abide by laws are they ?? If a dog has the potential / likelehood to kill (there is a differentiation here, so dogs like Akitas are included, others such as labradors are not - I'm not the one who would draw the line, but a line has to be drawn), then they should be banned. If this dog had come across a mum, with a toddler in a buggy (rather than a fit / active man, who was able to defend himself to some degree) and the dog had attacked the toddler, would you still be defending the dogs rights ??
shove you weetabix up your @rse.
[quote][p][bold]BILLTILL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Not so simple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote: This is absolute cr@p, how many more times do we need to hear that "its the owners who are at fault" ?!?!?? if any breed of dog is capable of carrying out this kind of unprovoked attack, it should not be allowed in our (supposedly) civilised society. How many more attacks, on children and babies, how many more deaths - you can't keep blaming the owners, some dogs have the potential to be more dangerous than others, and they need to be banned. That way, we can't keep blaming the owners.[/p][/quote]There are a fair few people who are a danger to themselves and others: your suggestion is to what again? Your logic is well below par today:: have some weetabix and think about what you are proposing. Secondly owners of dogs should be trained further in handling dogs: it's a shame that we see youngsters walking such dangerous dogs but it boils down to the upbringing of the dogs and the upbringing of the owners and it's kids. The police should be allowed to take dogs off anyone they deem too young or stupid to walk a dog: just take a walk in the various parks in the district and you will see youngsters/teenagers and adults showing their dogs off as status symbols: they want to show others that they have the baddest and most dangerous dog; what a flipping joke![/p][/quote]The problem is that in most cases these types of dog including Pitt Bulls etc have a higher IQ than their owners ! It is the same old brainless idiots you see walking down the road with their attack dog ,ban the dogs and stop the owners from breeding to produce more of their inbred selves !!![/p][/quote]Compulsory training for dog owners / liscencing / micro-chipping..... none of these will stop mindless tw@ts keeping this type of dog - because their intention is to look "hard", so they are unlikely to abide by laws are they ?? If a dog has the potential / likelehood to kill (there is a differentiation here, so dogs like Akitas are included, others such as labradors are not - I'm not the one who would draw the line, but a line has to be drawn), then they should be banned. If this dog had come across a mum, with a toddler in a buggy (rather than a fit / active man, who was able to defend himself to some degree) and the dog had attacked the toddler, would you still be defending the dogs rights ?? shove you weetabix up your @rse. Old Peculiar
  • Score: 7

8:58pm Tue 15 Apr 14

micela22 says...

any animal is dangerous, especially in the wrong hands, 6 year olds aren`t suitable to be in control of any dog. We seem to have a Disney view of animals, i`ve had several different breeds of dogs & rehomed abused dogs, the nastiest dog i ever owned was a chihauhau & i have a 50 year old facial scar from a toy poodle. i`ve educated myself in the breeds of dogs i`ve had - free libraries / internet info. i still meet mindless owners on my 2 walks a day who insist their dogs are `friendly` when I`m holding mine on her lead because I know she`s an animal & could turn. Insurance should be compulsory - forget the licence that`s just a tax, & as for justjustice referring to `only a cat/kitten` - beyond belief
any animal is dangerous, especially in the wrong hands, 6 year olds aren`t suitable to be in control of any dog. We seem to have a Disney view of animals, i`ve had several different breeds of dogs & rehomed abused dogs, the nastiest dog i ever owned was a chihauhau & i have a 50 year old facial scar from a toy poodle. i`ve educated myself in the breeds of dogs i`ve had - free libraries / internet info. i still meet mindless owners on my 2 walks a day who insist their dogs are `friendly` when I`m holding mine on her lead because I know she`s an animal & could turn. Insurance should be compulsory - forget the licence that`s just a tax, & as for justjustice referring to `only a cat/kitten` - beyond belief micela22
  • Score: 3

9:04pm Tue 15 Apr 14

eccythump says...

mr-dog wrote:
BAN THE JAPANESE AKITA NOW!

I am sick of these horrible, vicious dogs and the idiots that strut around with them.

How many more people have to get attacked by them? Enough is enough.
Really ? Ban them all ? I have one, he is very gentle. On many occasions smaller Dogs have attacked him (usually Jack Russels actually) he just lifts his head up and turns the other cheek. Ban owners who have no control over, Dogs, that have not been brought up/trained properly.
[quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: BAN THE JAPANESE AKITA NOW! I am sick of these horrible, vicious dogs and the idiots that strut around with them. How many more people have to get attacked by them? Enough is enough.[/p][/quote]Really ? Ban them all ? I have one, he is very gentle. On many occasions smaller Dogs have attacked him (usually Jack Russels actually) he just lifts his head up and turns the other cheek. Ban owners who have no control over, Dogs, that have not been brought up/trained properly. eccythump
  • Score: 1

11:56pm Tue 15 Apr 14

wellhelloooooooo says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Stick or something up a dogs bum will distract them enough if they have their jaws clamped onto someone.

The law really needs changing to make owners far more accountable. It shouldn't matter if the dog is classed as a dangerous breed or not, if it attacks someone then the owner should be prosecuted as if they carried out the attack.

the owner of this dog should be prosecuted for ABH and also child neglect! Fancy letting a 6yo walk a dog like that, the child really needs to be taken into care to protect it from such idiotic parents.
Best way to stop them is to get hold of the back legs if you can then lift and quickly walk them around so they can not carry on biting,not tried it yet but it's always in the back of my mind just in case.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Stick or something up a dogs bum will distract them enough if they have their jaws clamped onto someone. The law really needs changing to make owners far more accountable. It shouldn't matter if the dog is classed as a dangerous breed or not, if it attacks someone then the owner should be prosecuted as if they carried out the attack. the owner of this dog should be prosecuted for ABH and also child neglect! Fancy letting a 6yo walk a dog like that, the child really needs to be taken into care to protect it from such idiotic parents.[/p][/quote]Best way to stop them is to get hold of the back legs if you can then lift and quickly walk them around so they can not carry on biting,not tried it yet but it's always in the back of my mind just in case. wellhelloooooooo
  • Score: 2

1:29am Wed 16 Apr 14

Raj2121 says...

Hope you get well soon, owners should be prosecuted, that dog will bite again, and that could be a child....
Hope you get well soon, owners should be prosecuted, that dog will bite again, and that could be a child.... Raj2121
  • Score: 3

10:49am Wed 16 Apr 14

Albion. says...

wellhelloooooooo wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Stick or something up a dogs bum will distract them enough if they have their jaws clamped onto someone.

The law really needs changing to make owners far more accountable. It shouldn't matter if the dog is classed as a dangerous breed or not, if it attacks someone then the owner should be prosecuted as if they carried out the attack.

the owner of this dog should be prosecuted for ABH and also child neglect! Fancy letting a 6yo walk a dog like that, the child really needs to be taken into care to protect it from such idiotic parents.
Best way to stop them is to get hold of the back legs if you can then lift and quickly walk them around so they can not carry on biting,not tried it yet but it's always in the back of my mind just in case.
When a dog of that size and weight has destroyed much of your arm, the chances of even trying that are virtually zero.
[quote][p][bold]wellhelloooooooo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Stick or something up a dogs bum will distract them enough if they have their jaws clamped onto someone. The law really needs changing to make owners far more accountable. It shouldn't matter if the dog is classed as a dangerous breed or not, if it attacks someone then the owner should be prosecuted as if they carried out the attack. the owner of this dog should be prosecuted for ABH and also child neglect! Fancy letting a 6yo walk a dog like that, the child really needs to be taken into care to protect it from such idiotic parents.[/p][/quote]Best way to stop them is to get hold of the back legs if you can then lift and quickly walk them around so they can not carry on biting,not tried it yet but it's always in the back of my mind just in case.[/p][/quote]When a dog of that size and weight has destroyed much of your arm, the chances of even trying that are virtually zero. Albion.
  • Score: 3

12:39am Thu 17 Apr 14

Ian H 1971 says...

Any dangerous animal like this should be kept well away from other human beings where possible.
Any dangerous animal like this should be kept well away from other human beings where possible. Ian H 1971
  • Score: 0

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