Upgrade promised after Bradford's Hilton is sold

The Bradford Hilton

The Bradford Hilton

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author Exclusive by , Business Reporter

One of Bradford’s flagship hotels is to have a new owner who has pledged significant investment to upgrade it into a luxury four-star venue.

The Hilton hotel in Norfolk Gardens opposite City Hall is being bought by London investment group Mastcraft for an undisclosed sum.

One leading commercial property agent told the Telegraph & Argus that the asking price was understood to be about £2 million.

The seven storey, 121-bedroom venue has 14 meeting rooms and can cater for events of up to 700 people.

Over the past four years Mastcraft has acquired nine hotels but this deal will be its first in Yorkshire.

Director Girish Sanger said Bradford had been a key target for its expansion programme because of the business potential offered through the city centre regeneration, boosted by construction of the Westfield development.

He said: “We think the Hilton is a great asset and Bradford city centre and local area offers tremendous opportunities.

“All the current Hilton staff will be transferred over to us and once the sale has been completed we will be taking a close look at the venue with a view to making significant investment in creating a prestigious luxury four-star hotel.

“It’s early days yet but we are excited about acquiring the Hilton Bradford and the prospects for the future.”

A spokesman for Hilton Worldwide said: “Having operated Hilton Bradford for more than 40 years, Hilton Worldwide has taken the decision to sell the property to Mastcraft.

“We expect the new owner to undertake the management of the property from completion, and the hotel will continue welcoming guests under the Hilton Hotels & Resorts brand until that point.

“We have taken the decision to complete the sale in order to concentrate on our wider portfolio in Yorkshire.”

News of the sale and potential investment has been welcomed, including by Gary Peacock, general manager of the rival Midland hotel – which is also looking to gain accreditation as a four-star venue.

He said: “This deal can only be good for the market and goes some way to countering criticism of under investment in Bradford’s hotel scene. It raises the game in the city and is a welcome sign of confidence in the city.”

Mike Cartwright, policy executive at Bradford Chamber of Commerce, said: The investment will give a boost to the sector and to Bradford generally.”

Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

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6:57am Fri 4 Apr 14

collos25 says...

"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it. collos25
  • Score: -5

7:14am Fri 4 Apr 14

undercliffebantam says...

collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed. undercliffebantam
  • Score: 28

7:38am Fri 4 Apr 14

collos25 says...

You obviously cannot tell the difference from desperate spin and facts ,you keep living with your head in the clouds you will be much happier while the rest of us have to live in the real world
You obviously cannot tell the difference from desperate spin and facts ,you keep living with your head in the clouds you will be much happier while the rest of us have to live in the real world collos25
  • Score: -7

8:25am Fri 4 Apr 14

bd7 helper says...

Let's get bradford busy once again.
Let's get bradford busy once again. bd7 helper
  • Score: 31

8:27am Fri 4 Apr 14

bd7 helper says...

collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
What about parking is it free or do we still get riped off
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]What about parking is it free or do we still get riped off bd7 helper
  • Score: 15

9:12am Fri 4 Apr 14

m.r.c says...

A prominent city centre hotel is sold the new owners are going to invest significant amounts of money to upgrade it and still negative comments, never mind jezza is just about to start.
A prominent city centre hotel is sold the new owners are going to invest significant amounts of money to upgrade it and still negative comments, never mind jezza is just about to start. m.r.c
  • Score: 12

9:33am Fri 4 Apr 14

justjustice says...

undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing.

Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there.

For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.
[quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing. Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there. For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving. justjustice
  • Score: 8

10:00am Fri 4 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
Are you close to the deal in question or just looking at angle for a whine?
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]Are you close to the deal in question or just looking at angle for a whine? linebacker2
  • Score: 7

10:06am Fri 4 Apr 14

Avro says...

The Hilton Group did have their eye on a new development at the top of town at the Highpoint location in Westgate (ex Yorkshire Building Society building opposite Morrisons).

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The Hilton Group did have their eye on a new development at the top of town at the Highpoint location in Westgate (ex Yorkshire Building Society building opposite Morrisons). http://www.beckwithd esign.co.uk/hilton%2 0hotel.html http://www.pulseprop ertymanagement.co.uk /Property-For-Sale-W estgate-Bradford-PI- 154.htm Avro
  • Score: 3

10:27am Fri 4 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

justjustice wrote:
undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing.

Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there.

For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.
I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit!

Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest.


IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing. Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there. For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.[/p][/quote]I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit! Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest. IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU? linebacker2
  • Score: 13

10:33am Fri 4 Apr 14

Avro says...

Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone! Avro
  • Score: 6

10:38am Fri 4 Apr 14

Avro says...

"He said: “We think the Hilton is a great asset and Bradford city centre and local area offers tremendous opportunities."

Clearly the Hilton Group do not think so...
"He said: “We think the Hilton is a great asset and Bradford city centre and local area offers tremendous opportunities." Clearly the Hilton Group do not think so... Avro
  • Score: 9

11:22am Fri 4 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

Sounds like more good news for Bradford, some on here must be apoplectic regarding such an obvious upturn in the City of Bradford's fortunes. This investment and the upgrading of the hotel to four star is another boost for the city along with the upgrade of the architectural gem that is the Midland Hotel to a four star establishment.!! It's all good!!!!
Sounds like more good news for Bradford, some on here must be apoplectic regarding such an obvious upturn in the City of Bradford's fortunes. This investment and the upgrading of the hotel to four star is another boost for the city along with the upgrade of the architectural gem that is the Midland Hotel to a four star establishment.!! It's all good!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 8

11:22am Fri 4 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

Sounds like more good news for Bradford, some on here must be apoplectic regarding such an obvious upturn in the City of Bradford's fortunes. This investment and the upgrading of the hotel to four star is another boost for the city along with the upgrade of the architectural gem that is the Midland Hotel to a four star establishment.!! It's all good!!!!
Sounds like more good news for Bradford, some on here must be apoplectic regarding such an obvious upturn in the City of Bradford's fortunes. This investment and the upgrading of the hotel to four star is another boost for the city along with the upgrade of the architectural gem that is the Midland Hotel to a four star establishment.!! It's all good!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 0

12:07pm Fri 4 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Hilton are selling their hotel in Manahattan, guess they've no faith in New York City either...
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Hilton are selling their hotel in Manahattan, guess they've no faith in New York City either... linebacker2
  • Score: 12

12:30pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Bantamzen says...

linebacker2 wrote:
Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Hilton are selling their hotel in Manahattan, guess they've no faith in New York City either...
And they have sold one of their flagship hotel complexes on Hawaii at Waikiki Beach....
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Hilton are selling their hotel in Manahattan, guess they've no faith in New York City either...[/p][/quote]And they have sold one of their flagship hotel complexes on Hawaii at Waikiki Beach.... Bantamzen
  • Score: 6

1:49pm Fri 4 Apr 14

schroeder says...

Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara. schroeder
  • Score: 2

2:01pm Fri 4 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

Hotels are for people who have come to Bradford for a short stay. This is usually something not connected to the hotel itself, that is just somewhere to lay their heads at the end of the night. I can understand that over the past 10 years there hasn't been a great deal to draw people to Bradford for an overnight or short break but I can't help feeling that Hilton have pulled out at the end of a long slog and the new owners have picked up a bargain just as a corner is being turned. I hope this is the case anyway.
Hotels are for people who have come to Bradford for a short stay. This is usually something not connected to the hotel itself, that is just somewhere to lay their heads at the end of the night. I can understand that over the past 10 years there hasn't been a great deal to draw people to Bradford for an overnight or short break but I can't help feeling that Hilton have pulled out at the end of a long slog and the new owners have picked up a bargain just as a corner is being turned. I hope this is the case anyway. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 8

3:12pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Avro says...

schroeder wrote:
Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.
Hilton is a recognised name around the world and a sign of success in any city.

Yes your right, the sale of the Hilton is going from top notch name to third rate nobody!
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.[/p][/quote]Hilton is a recognised name around the world and a sign of success in any city. Yes your right, the sale of the Hilton is going from top notch name to third rate nobody! Avro
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Avro says...

linebacker2 wrote:
Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Hilton are selling their hotel in Manahattan, guess they've no faith in New York City either...
And are building another!!
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Hilton are selling their hotel in Manahattan, guess they've no faith in New York City either...[/p][/quote]And are building another!! Avro
  • Score: 2

3:27pm Fri 4 Apr 14

BierleyBoy says...

undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
This is the same David Green who felt it prudent to lend £6m to the developers of Jury's Inn? If Hilton Worldwide are walking away and selling up for three times less than Green was willing to throw around, is this a good sign?

The new owners seem to specialise in luxury hotels in London.
[quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]This is the same David Green who felt it prudent to lend £6m to the developers of Jury's Inn? If Hilton Worldwide are walking away and selling up for three times less than Green was willing to throw around, is this a good sign? The new owners seem to specialise in luxury hotels in London. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 3

5:21pm Fri 4 Apr 14

schroeder says...

Avro wrote:
schroeder wrote:
Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.
Hilton is a recognised name around the world and a sign of success in any city.

Yes your right, the sale of the Hilton is going from top notch name to third rate nobody!
What are you on?? There are Hilton hotels in most cities and large towns, and they aren't known to be great hotels.
The Hilton in Bradford IS currently a third rate hotel, but it's going to be taken over and become a prestigious luxury hotel.. but you don't think this is good for the city??
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.[/p][/quote]Hilton is a recognised name around the world and a sign of success in any city. Yes your right, the sale of the Hilton is going from top notch name to third rate nobody![/p][/quote]What are you on?? There are Hilton hotels in most cities and large towns, and they aren't known to be great hotels. The Hilton in Bradford IS currently a third rate hotel, but it's going to be taken over and become a prestigious luxury hotel.. but you don't think this is good for the city?? schroeder
  • Score: 7

5:31pm Fri 4 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.
For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 6

5:44pm Fri 4 Apr 14

schroeder says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.
I don't think it's too bad. Looks like a hotel.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's too bad. Looks like a hotel. schroeder
  • Score: -3

5:53pm Fri 4 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

schroeder wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.
I don't think it's too bad. Looks like a hotel.
A dog ugly one. Does your missus look like a woman?
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's too bad. Looks like a hotel.[/p][/quote]A dog ugly one. Does your missus look like a woman? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 2

6:06pm Fri 4 Apr 14

schroeder says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
schroeder wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.
I don't think it's too bad. Looks like a hotel.
A dog ugly one. Does your missus look like a woman?
It doesn't look too dissimilar to the queens hotel in leeds. most cites have hotels that look like this. I prefer the look of this hotel than the re-clad premier inn, and many other characterless new hotels.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's too bad. Looks like a hotel.[/p][/quote]A dog ugly one. Does your missus look like a woman?[/p][/quote]It doesn't look too dissimilar to the queens hotel in leeds. most cites have hotels that look like this. I prefer the look of this hotel than the re-clad premier inn, and many other characterless new hotels. schroeder
  • Score: -2

6:10pm Fri 4 Apr 14

schroeder says...

Look a lot better than leeds hilton too!
Look a lot better than leeds hilton too! schroeder
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Fri 4 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

schroeder wrote:
Look a lot better than leeds hilton too!
It doesn't look dissimilar to a block of flats or an office block. It is hardly inspiring considering it's prominent location within our town. As I say I'm not sure what can be done with it as we're pretty much stuck with what we've got but personally given the quality of surrounding buildings I would not have granted planning permission for it.
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: Look a lot better than leeds hilton too![/p][/quote]It doesn't look dissimilar to a block of flats or an office block. It is hardly inspiring considering it's prominent location within our town. As I say I'm not sure what can be done with it as we're pretty much stuck with what we've got but personally given the quality of surrounding buildings I would not have granted planning permission for it. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 2

3:41pm Sat 5 Apr 14

jfir says...

We are ex-pats coming back to sunny Bradford from Aus in Jun/July. We had our honeymoon here back in 1982, better be nice.
We are ex-pats coming back to sunny Bradford from Aus in Jun/July. We had our honeymoon here back in 1982, better be nice. jfir
  • Score: 0

4:24pm Sat 5 Apr 14

The Hoffster says...

linebacker2 wrote:
justjustice wrote:
undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing.

Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there.

For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.
I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit!

Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest.


IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?
Er, coming *INTO* the craphole that is Bradford isn't the problem.

It's *getting out* that is.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing. Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there. For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.[/p][/quote]I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit! Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest. IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?[/p][/quote]Er, coming *INTO* the craphole that is Bradford isn't the problem. It's *getting out* that is. The Hoffster
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Sun 6 Apr 14

schroeder says...

The Hoffster wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
justjustice wrote:
undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing.

Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there.

For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.
I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit!

Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest.


IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?
Er, coming *INTO* the craphole that is Bradford isn't the problem.

It's *getting out* that is.
anyone can get out, there's nothing stopping anyone!
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing. Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there. For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.[/p][/quote]I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit! Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest. IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?[/p][/quote]Er, coming *INTO* the craphole that is Bradford isn't the problem. It's *getting out* that is.[/p][/quote]anyone can get out, there's nothing stopping anyone! schroeder
  • Score: -1

8:00am Mon 7 Apr 14

Avro says...

jfir wrote:
We are ex-pats coming back to sunny Bradford from Aus in Jun/July. We had our honeymoon here back in 1982, better be nice.
You'll be sick as a parrot. Cancel your move asap!
[quote][p][bold]jfir[/bold] wrote: We are ex-pats coming back to sunny Bradford from Aus in Jun/July. We had our honeymoon here back in 1982, better be nice.[/p][/quote]You'll be sick as a parrot. Cancel your move asap! Avro
  • Score: 0

11:11am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

bd7 helper wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
What about parking is it free or do we still get riped off
Parking with Bradford Hilton is currently through giving discount vouchers for the NCP as the hotel does not have its own car park. I will ask if this situation can be improved upon for you once the transfer is complete. John Preston: Breakfast Chef at what is currently Bradford Hilton and resident of Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]bd7 helper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]What about parking is it free or do we still get riped off[/p][/quote]Parking with Bradford Hilton is currently through giving discount vouchers for the NCP as the hotel does not have its own car park. I will ask if this situation can be improved upon for you once the transfer is complete. John Preston: Breakfast Chef at what is currently Bradford Hilton and resident of Bradford. LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

11:15am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

justjustice wrote:
undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing.

Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there.

For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.
Hopefully this situation is set to improve. You have my sympathy for what it's worth.
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing. Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there. For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.[/p][/quote]Hopefully this situation is set to improve. You have my sympathy for what it's worth. LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

11:26am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

linebacker2 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
Are you close to the deal in question or just looking at angle for a whine?
The new owners are prepared to invest in the building but a hotel is more than just a building and we, the staff of the hotel, will be working hard as ever to maintain and improve upon current standards of service.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]Are you close to the deal in question or just looking at angle for a whine?[/p][/quote]The new owners are prepared to invest in the building but a hotel is more than just a building and we, the staff of the hotel, will be working hard as ever to maintain and improve upon current standards of service. LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

11:35am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
As you say, it is their loss. We the staff plan on showing Hilton just what they are losing by making a go of this. This will be a new and BETTER hotel and I shall be very glad not to have folk going, "Ooh! You work for Hilton!" from now on. Basically this will be OUR hotel now and we can expect to have more of a say in influencing how it develops. I'm looking forward to this new beginning.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]As you say, it is their loss. We the staff plan on showing Hilton just what they are losing by making a go of this. This will be a new and BETTER hotel and I shall be very glad not to have folk going, "Ooh! You work for Hilton!" from now on. Basically this will be OUR hotel now and we can expect to have more of a say in influencing how it develops. I'm looking forward to this new beginning. LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

11:43am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

Avro wrote:
"He said: “We think the Hilton is a great asset and Bradford city centre and local area offers tremendous opportunities."

Clearly the Hilton Group do not think so...
And if Hilton is no longer interested in Bradford then maybe Bradford should return the favour. There is life beyond Hilton. One general manager a while back introduced himself to us by telling us that we the staff were what made this hotel a great hotel. He was completely correct. We are and we shall continue to be. Hilton is leaving but we're staying right here!!!
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: "He said: “We think the Hilton is a great asset and Bradford city centre and local area offers tremendous opportunities." Clearly the Hilton Group do not think so...[/p][/quote]And if Hilton is no longer interested in Bradford then maybe Bradford should return the favour. There is life beyond Hilton. One general manager a while back introduced himself to us by telling us that we the staff were what made this hotel a great hotel. He was completely correct. We are and we shall continue to be. Hilton is leaving but we're staying right here!!! LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

11:51am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

Avro wrote:
schroeder wrote:
Avro wrote:
Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford!

I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone!
Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.
Hilton is a recognised name around the world and a sign of success in any city.

Yes your right, the sale of the Hilton is going from top notch name to third rate nobody!
Then this just means we have to work harder to prove ourselves, doesn't it? This is something NEW. something different and something less predictable and boring. Hope you'll come and see us post-transfer and then we'll have the chance to change your mind!!!
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Very odd why a leading hotel group have put this location up for sale ahead of Bradford's regen which is underway, and also seemingly also scrapped plans for a relocation within Bradford! I'd say the loss of the Bradford Hilton is a big loss in name alone![/p][/quote]Who cares? It's like Primark selling its store to Zara.[/p][/quote]Hilton is a recognised name around the world and a sign of success in any city. Yes your right, the sale of the Hilton is going from top notch name to third rate nobody![/p][/quote]Then this just means we have to work harder to prove ourselves, doesn't it? This is something NEW. something different and something less predictable and boring. Hope you'll come and see us post-transfer and then we'll have the chance to change your mind!!! LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

11:57am Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.
True, the building is nothing to write home about but the views from it looking towards City Hall are something else. I was on the 6th floor just the other day and the view across the city was amazing!
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: For all the prestige and capital worth of the Hilton brand it has to be said that the building itself is hardly what you could call aesthetically pleasing. Not sure what could be done to improve the nondescript box but considering the architectural beauty of the St Georges Hall across the road I feel it needs something.[/p][/quote]True, the building is nothing to write home about but the views from it looking towards City Hall are something else. I was on the 6th floor just the other day and the view across the city was amazing! LittleBugger
  • Score: 0

12:12pm Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

jfir wrote:
We are ex-pats coming back to sunny Bradford from Aus in Jun/July. We had our honeymoon here back in 1982, better be nice.
We look forward to welcoming you back. When you make your booking, please tell the desk what you've told us here so they can tell us in the kitchen and we should be able to arrange something a bit special for you. I'll be mostly behind the scenes looking after Breakfast as a whole (also lunch, desserts, homemade cookies and other stuff in case anyone thinks breakfast is all a breakfast chef does...) whilst my colleague Sanjay will provide your egg and omelette requirements cooked to order from the egg counter which he is responsible for running. Expect to have a good chat with him as he's always up for one. John - Breakfast Chef
[quote][p][bold]jfir[/bold] wrote: We are ex-pats coming back to sunny Bradford from Aus in Jun/July. We had our honeymoon here back in 1982, better be nice.[/p][/quote]We look forward to welcoming you back. When you make your booking, please tell the desk what you've told us here so they can tell us in the kitchen and we should be able to arrange something a bit special for you. I'll be mostly behind the scenes looking after Breakfast as a whole (also lunch, desserts, homemade cookies and other stuff in case anyone thinks breakfast is all a breakfast chef does...) whilst my colleague Sanjay will provide your egg and omelette requirements cooked to order from the egg counter which he is responsible for running. Expect to have a good chat with him as he's always up for one. John - Breakfast Chef LittleBugger
  • Score: -1

12:24pm Wed 9 Apr 14

LittleBugger says...

The Hoffster wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
justjustice wrote:
undercliffebantam wrote:
collos25 wrote:
"Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.”

He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price.
It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.
All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.
You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing.

Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there.

For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.
I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit!

Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest.


IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?
Er, coming *INTO* the craphole that is Bradford isn't the problem.

It's *getting out* that is.
You should stop bringing down the reputation of your own city though. That's not going to help matters. Employment is hard to get just now but not impossible: I'm living with other guys that are or have been and they're generally finding work ultimately though sometimes it takes a while. It will get better and you just have to believe that. It's not a bad city: it's just that so many people living here keep sounding off about how rubbish it is that folk on the outside believe them and Bradford Hilton has a similar story: it's actually a **** fine hotel overall if you can overlook the fact that it's shaped like a box. There are a lot of folk, myself included, who work very hard there each and every day to create great food, great service and great memories for people coming to stay with us. I'm proud to be part of that. You should be proud to be part of Bradford and maybe you should believe in yourself more.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]undercliffebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: "Councillor David Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “This is good news of positive investment in the city.” He would say that if it had such a rosy future the present owners would have spent some money on it as it is they were glad to get rid of it at any price. It needs a lot of money spent on it to keep it open I wish the new owners a lot of luck they will need it.[/p][/quote]All some people can do is moan. If you don't like living in Bradford why not go and live somewhere else. I,m sure you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]You are assuming that many of the people of Bradford actually have the option of such a thing. Many are stuck in Bradford, they cannot find a job, and they do not have enough money to help them relocate to another town or city; and even if they did they cannot find a new job there. For these people there is a huge brick wall surrounding Bradford preventing them from leaving.[/p][/quote]I get used to reading some tosh on the comments, but this takes the biscuit! Many people have moved here from Eastern Europe with little capital, knowledge of English and no network of contacts. Many of these people are now settled and prosperous. They never whined to local paper saying there's a "brick wal"l round Krakow of Budapest. IF THEY CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T YOU?[/p][/quote]Er, coming *INTO* the craphole that is Bradford isn't the problem. It's *getting out* that is.[/p][/quote]You should stop bringing down the reputation of your own city though. That's not going to help matters. Employment is hard to get just now but not impossible: I'm living with other guys that are or have been and they're generally finding work ultimately though sometimes it takes a while. It will get better and you just have to believe that. It's not a bad city: it's just that so many people living here keep sounding off about how rubbish it is that folk on the outside believe them and Bradford Hilton has a similar story: it's actually a **** fine hotel overall if you can overlook the fact that it's shaped like a box. There are a lot of folk, myself included, who work very hard there each and every day to create great food, great service and great memories for people coming to stay with us. I'm proud to be part of that. You should be proud to be part of Bradford and maybe you should believe in yourself more. LittleBugger
  • Score: -1

3:30pm Fri 11 Apr 14

wooly 2708 says...

Avro wrote:
The Hilton Group did have their eye on a new development at the top of town at the Highpoint location in Westgate (ex Yorkshire Building Society building opposite Morrisons).

http://www.beckwithd

esign.co.uk/hilton%2

0hotel.html

http://www.pulseprop

ertymanagement.co.uk

/Property-For-Sale-W

estgate-Bradford-PI-

154.htm
This looks really interesting and it would bring some much needed regeneration to the Goitside area. I really hope it comes off.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: The Hilton Group did have their eye on a new development at the top of town at the Highpoint location in Westgate (ex Yorkshire Building Society building opposite Morrisons). http://www.beckwithd esign.co.uk/hilton%2 0hotel.html http://www.pulseprop ertymanagement.co.uk /Property-For-Sale-W estgate-Bradford-PI- 154.htm[/p][/quote]This looks really interesting and it would bring some much needed regeneration to the Goitside area. I really hope it comes off. wooly 2708
  • Score: -1

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