Westfield building 'has created a real buzz around city'

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Westfield building 'has created a real buzz around city' Westfield building 'has created a real buzz around city'

The scale of construction work on Bradford’s new shopping centre has roused a huge amount of interest in the city’s regeneration, says the leader of the council.

Councillor David Green said although the construction of the Westfield development was always going to lead to further investment, the eagerness of such support had taken the local authority by surprise.

Speaking at the Broadway building site yesterday he said: “It’s great to come on site, this is the first time I’ve actually been on the site since January. To see the progress that’s going on, to see the employment that you can see on site – the job creation and the buzz that it being created by this development with further developments coming off it for the city centre is something that’s been quite remarkable.

“We always knew that we would get further interest in the regeneration of Bradford on the back of Westfield starting, but the speed and the enthusiasm that people are coming forward looking to develop other parts of the city centre has, I think, surprised us.

“We continue to work with Westfield, we’re working closely with them in terms of the local employment clauses in our agreement. We are looking to make sure that Bradford people have got the skills and the training to take the jobs in this centre when it’s built and in other areas and I think that what we’re seeing is, despite the cynicism we’ve heard over the past three or four years, both Westfield, [the investors] Meyer Bergman and Bradford Council are delivering.”

Deputy council leader Imran Hussain said he was excited by the ongoing work.

“I think there’s going to be a fantastic regeneration of the city centre. We’re going to have 2,500 employment opportunities here. That in itself for the city centre and for the district as a whole is fantastic,” he said.

“It will bring a buzz to the city, it will bring a buzz to the district and there will be a knock-on effect across the city and the district.”

Projects announced in recent weeks include hopes to transform a network of tunnels under the city centre into a Victorian-style market featuring shops, bars and restaurants and the rebranding of the lower floors of Arndale House as The Xchange, a modern complex to complement the Broadway shopping centre.

Coun Green said: “I think there will be more announcements in the months to come and I think there will be even more cranes in the air and even more refurbishment going on.”

Coun Hussain added: “Some of us have really worked at this for years now and we’ve had obstacles along the way, but to actually see it... it means a lot to us, it really does, and I know it means a lot to the people of the district.”

A city property agent has hailed the Westfield development for boosting the market – even before construction work started.

Shazad Mahmood, of Eddisons in Little Germany, said he was aware of at least three key deals involving London-based investors completed before work on Westfield started, including the sale of two commercial buildings on Cheapside.

Eddisons is now in discussions with other potential London-based investors as well as several from around the Yorkshire region whose interest has been raised now that Westfield is under way.

He said: “There’s no doubt that potential for deals in the local commercial property market has been lifted because of Westfield. It is a key factor when we are talking with potential investors who are now looking at the city in a different light.

“The city centre growth zone incentives are also proving to be a key draw and the underlying situation has also been boosted by the overall improvement in the economy.

“We are now seeing more interest in the city than at any time in the past two or three years.”

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7:45am Thu 3 Apr 14

Avro says...

Its been a long time coming!
Its been a long time coming! Avro
  • Score: 15

8:18am Thu 3 Apr 14

angry bradfordian says...

As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it...

I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops.
That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.
As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it... I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops. That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 15

8:40am Thu 3 Apr 14

JAtkinson says...

Yes, far too long in coming but I am glad that, unlike maybe Forster Sq, it seems to be having an impact in the wider city centre. Not being a Shopaholic, I'm not sure I'll have much call to use Westfield when it is built, but am excited by some of the projects spurred on by, created by or supported by its building.

Maybe we'll have fewer people bemoaning the minority of less than desirable clientele which visits Bradford and tempt them back in. I do hope so.
Yes, far too long in coming but I am glad that, unlike maybe Forster Sq, it seems to be having an impact in the wider city centre. Not being a Shopaholic, I'm not sure I'll have much call to use Westfield when it is built, but am excited by some of the projects spurred on by, created by or supported by its building. Maybe we'll have fewer people bemoaning the minority of less than desirable clientele which visits Bradford and tempt them back in. I do hope so. JAtkinson
  • Score: 11

9:12am Thu 3 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Rehash of the story from yesterday.

It's 10 years delayed and scaled down to what it should have been.

All the shops announced are relocations from other parts of the City.

They intend to charge for parking for anyone who visits the mall.

Some people are easily pleased and have very short memories. Are people really excited at the prosect of Boots, Next, M&S, Topshop, River Island, etc moving from their current location down the road to Westfield? Or is this just spin to make it look like a success when only 2 stores so far announced out of a potential 70 aren't in the City already.
Rehash of the story from yesterday. It's 10 years delayed and scaled down to what it should have been. All the shops announced are relocations from other parts of the City. They intend to charge for parking for anyone who visits the mall. Some people are easily pleased and have very short memories. Are people really excited at the prosect of Boots, Next, M&S, Topshop, River Island, etc moving from their current location down the road to Westfield? Or is this just spin to make it look like a success when only 2 stores so far announced out of a potential 70 aren't in the City already. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 8

9:12am Thu 3 Apr 14

Joedavid says...

Good news at long last, now what about the Odeon Mr Green please get that decision made and the work got going there.
Good news at long last, now what about the Odeon Mr Green please get that decision made and the work got going there. Joedavid
  • Score: 15

9:16am Thu 3 Apr 14

BierleyBoy says...

A lot of hot air & thoughts from Green. No actual facts. Same for his deputy. Interesting to note Green says the buzz has yet to be created. Truth is there is little local interest in Westfield because everyone is already very happy shopping elsewhere.

Our household will certainly never swap where we go for Bradford city centre, even though we live in the city.

Just remember people, Westfield is the same size as Trinity Walks in Wakefield, a city of 200,000 fewer people.
A lot of hot air & thoughts from Green. No actual facts. Same for his deputy. Interesting to note Green says the buzz has yet to be created. Truth is there is little local interest in Westfield because everyone is already very happy shopping elsewhere. Our household will certainly never swap where we go for Bradford city centre, even though we live in the city. Just remember people, Westfield is the same size as Trinity Walks in Wakefield, a city of 200,000 fewer people. BierleyBoy
  • Score: -8

10:22am Thu 3 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

Avro wrote:
Its been a long time coming!
Such insight there, none of us knew Broadway had been delayed until you kindly informed us.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Its been a long time coming![/p][/quote]Such insight there, none of us knew Broadway had been delayed until you kindly informed us. linebacker2
  • Score: 4

10:34am Thu 3 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre. bcfc1903
  • Score: 3

10:34am Thu 3 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre. bcfc1903
  • Score: -7

11:39am Thu 3 Apr 14

The Hoffster says...

The only buzz I heard was a bee flying past.
The only buzz I heard was a bee flying past. The Hoffster
  • Score: -8

12:02pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Avro says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it...

I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops.
That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.
And not forgetting that those units that have relocated from A to B, already have staff..
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it... I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops. That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.[/p][/quote]And not forgetting that those units that have relocated from A to B, already have staff.. Avro
  • Score: 5

12:03pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Good job you moaning Minnie's are a minority!

If everyone was so negative then we'd be in a real state!
Good job you moaning Minnie's are a minority! If everyone was so negative then we'd be in a real state! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 2

12:05pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Avro says...

linebacker2 wrote:
Avro wrote:
Its been a long time coming!
Such insight there, none of us knew Broadway had been delayed until you kindly informed us.
I don't call a 10 year wait a delay, but an absolute shambles, which Bradford Council seem keen for Bradford to forget!
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Its been a long time coming![/p][/quote]Such insight there, none of us knew Broadway had been delayed until you kindly informed us.[/p][/quote]I don't call a 10 year wait a delay, but an absolute shambles, which Bradford Council seem keen for Bradford to forget! Avro
  • Score: 12

12:07pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Avro says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Good job you moaning Minnie's are a minority!

If everyone was so negative then we'd be in a real state!
Bradford is just that!!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Good job you moaning Minnie's are a minority! If everyone was so negative then we'd be in a real state![/p][/quote]Bradford is just that!! Avro
  • Score: 7

1:13pm Thu 3 Apr 14

collos25 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again. collos25
  • Score: 0

1:13pm Thu 3 Apr 14

collos25 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again. collos25
  • Score: 0

1:18pm Thu 3 Apr 14

collos25 says...

No free parking no real new shops just a relocation of existing premises so the old premises can be boarded up nothing really to get exited about is it but Mr Greene is easily pleased .
No free parking no real new shops just a relocation of existing premises so the old premises can be boarded up nothing really to get exited about is it but Mr Greene is easily pleased . collos25
  • Score: 5

1:23pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Good job you moaning Minnie's are a minority!

If everyone was so negative then we'd be in a real state!
But we are in a state, the city centre is a total mess and they still won't get rid of the street drunks and beggars. They are the ones who will prosper as they'll be more people to tap up.
Dave Green has become a real media luvvie and they should be asking for Meyer/Westfield quotes as they are the ones investing and building, not the council. The council are taking the plaudits and the rest of the city centre is in A shocking state but they still earn loadsamoney with the traffic wardens.
The shops opening in Westfield is mainly a sideways step like Greeny pushing paper around his desk.
I'm glad the Broadway Centre is being built but a bit off the rates isn't a big enough incentive on the other properties as the landlords are now seeking bigger rents!
But the street drunks and beggars will be the big problem unless they tackle it now.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Good job you moaning Minnie's are a minority! If everyone was so negative then we'd be in a real state![/p][/quote]But we are in a state, the city centre is a total mess and they still won't get rid of the street drunks and beggars. They are the ones who will prosper as they'll be more people to tap up. Dave Green has become a real media luvvie and they should be asking for Meyer/Westfield quotes as they are the ones investing and building, not the council. The council are taking the plaudits and the rest of the city centre is in A shocking state but they still earn loadsamoney with the traffic wardens. The shops opening in Westfield is mainly a sideways step like Greeny pushing paper around his desk. I'm glad the Broadway Centre is being built but a bit off the rates isn't a big enough incentive on the other properties as the landlords are now seeking bigger rents! But the street drunks and beggars will be the big problem unless they tackle it now. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 6

2:39pm Thu 3 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

Good to see work finally underway on the new temple of consumerism. All we need now is for more jobs to be created and existing jobs to start paying enough so as people can afford to go and worship there. Crazy thought I know but isn't there anything that Bradfordians could manufacture or produce?
Good to see work finally underway on the new temple of consumerism. All we need now is for more jobs to be created and existing jobs to start paying enough so as people can afford to go and worship there. Crazy thought I know but isn't there anything that Bradfordians could manufacture or produce? RollandSmoke
  • Score: -7

3:49pm Thu 3 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Good to see work finally underway on the new temple of consumerism. All we need now is for more jobs to be created and existing jobs to start paying enough so as people can afford to go and worship there. Crazy thought I know but isn't there anything that Bradfordians could manufacture or produce?
Here we go again with the thumbs down. What are these thumbers with nothing to say trying to tell me? We don't need more jobs? We don't need better wages? Or is it just that they believe Bradfordians are incapable of manufacturing or producing anything despite us doing so throughout our history and at one time being one of the richest cities in the country as a result?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: Good to see work finally underway on the new temple of consumerism. All we need now is for more jobs to be created and existing jobs to start paying enough so as people can afford to go and worship there. Crazy thought I know but isn't there anything that Bradfordians could manufacture or produce?[/p][/quote]Here we go again with the thumbs down. What are these thumbers with nothing to say trying to tell me? We don't need more jobs? We don't need better wages? Or is it just that they believe Bradfordians are incapable of manufacturing or producing anything despite us doing so throughout our history and at one time being one of the richest cities in the country as a result? RollandSmoke
  • Score: -4

4:00pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Avro says...

Joedavid wrote:
Good news at long last, now what about the Odeon Mr Green please get that decision made and the work got going there.
Not great when the rival Odeon groups won't merge to join forces. Surely as one the stand a better chance of making something of it?
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Good news at long last, now what about the Odeon Mr Green please get that decision made and the work got going there.[/p][/quote]Not great when the rival Odeon groups won't merge to join forces. Surely as one the stand a better chance of making something of it? Avro
  • Score: -2

4:20pm Thu 3 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!!
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again.[/p][/quote]Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 1

4:20pm Thu 3 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!!
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again.[/p][/quote]Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Thu 3 Apr 14

bobby98007 says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it...

I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops.
That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.
No, you have mis understood, there are lots of construction jobs that are included in that figure, its not all permanent retail jobs.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it... I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops. That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.[/p][/quote]No, you have mis understood, there are lots of construction jobs that are included in that figure, its not all permanent retail jobs. bobby98007
  • Score: 5

5:12pm Thu 3 Apr 14

bobby98007 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Rehash of the story from yesterday.

It's 10 years delayed and scaled down to what it should have been.

All the shops announced are relocations from other parts of the City.

They intend to charge for parking for anyone who visits the mall.

Some people are easily pleased and have very short memories. Are people really excited at the prosect of Boots, Next, M&S, Topshop, River Island, etc moving from their current location down the road to Westfield? Or is this just spin to make it look like a success when only 2 stores so far announced out of a potential 70 aren't in the City already.
There are only so many retail chains! You go to all the other major shopping centres and they are all the same.

Now, ive not been in the centre for a while, but i dont remember seeing Wagamamma, Pizza Express, Burger King, Hey Potato, H&M or Debenhams at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Rehash of the story from yesterday. It's 10 years delayed and scaled down to what it should have been. All the shops announced are relocations from other parts of the City. They intend to charge for parking for anyone who visits the mall. Some people are easily pleased and have very short memories. Are people really excited at the prosect of Boots, Next, M&S, Topshop, River Island, etc moving from their current location down the road to Westfield? Or is this just spin to make it look like a success when only 2 stores so far announced out of a potential 70 aren't in the City already.[/p][/quote]There are only so many retail chains! You go to all the other major shopping centres and they are all the same. Now, ive not been in the centre for a while, but i dont remember seeing Wagamamma, Pizza Express, Burger King, Hey Potato, H&M or Debenhams at the moment. bobby98007
  • Score: 7

5:21pm Thu 3 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!!
That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again.[/p][/quote]Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!![/p][/quote]That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 0

6:38pm Thu 3 Apr 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

The Hoffster wrote:
The only buzz I heard was a bee flying past.
Was it an EDL bee?
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: The only buzz I heard was a bee flying past.[/p][/quote]Was it an EDL bee? moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: 0

7:11pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Avro says...

bobby98007 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Rehash of the story from yesterday.

It's 10 years delayed and scaled down to what it should have been.

All the shops announced are relocations from other parts of the City.

They intend to charge for parking for anyone who visits the mall.

Some people are easily pleased and have very short memories. Are people really excited at the prosect of Boots, Next, M&S, Topshop, River Island, etc moving from their current location down the road to Westfield? Or is this just spin to make it look like a success when only 2 stores so far announced out of a potential 70 aren't in the City already.
There are only so many retail chains! You go to all the other major shopping centres and they are all the same.

Now, ive not been in the centre for a while, but i dont remember seeing Wagamamma, Pizza Express, Burger King, Hey Potato, H&M or Debenhams at the moment.
Wagamamma, Pizza Express and H&M have NOT actually been confirmed as tenants..
[quote][p][bold]bobby98007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Rehash of the story from yesterday. It's 10 years delayed and scaled down to what it should have been. All the shops announced are relocations from other parts of the City. They intend to charge for parking for anyone who visits the mall. Some people are easily pleased and have very short memories. Are people really excited at the prosect of Boots, Next, M&S, Topshop, River Island, etc moving from their current location down the road to Westfield? Or is this just spin to make it look like a success when only 2 stores so far announced out of a potential 70 aren't in the City already.[/p][/quote]There are only so many retail chains! You go to all the other major shopping centres and they are all the same. Now, ive not been in the centre for a while, but i dont remember seeing Wagamamma, Pizza Express, Burger King, Hey Potato, H&M or Debenhams at the moment.[/p][/quote]Wagamamma, Pizza Express and H&M have NOT actually been confirmed as tenants.. Avro
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Thu 3 Apr 14

The Hoffster says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
The only buzz I heard was a bee flying past.
Was it an EDL bee?
Come to think of it, I did see about 3 letters stamped on it.

(could have been BNP though)
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: The only buzz I heard was a bee flying past.[/p][/quote]Was it an EDL bee?[/p][/quote]Come to think of it, I did see about 3 letters stamped on it. (could have been BNP though) The Hoffster
  • Score: -3

9:19pm Thu 3 Apr 14

angry bradfordian says...

bobby98007 wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it...

I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops.
That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.
No, you have mis understood, there are lots of construction jobs that are included in that figure, its not all permanent retail jobs.
No, you have misunderstood.
Check the Westfield Bradford website. It says the centre will create 2500 retail jobs and 1500 construction jobs.
[quote][p][bold]bobby98007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: As Mr Green has mentioned the public's cynicism, I may as well carry on with it... I don't understand how "2,500 employment opportunities" (or jobs as normal people call them!) can be generated from a centre with 70 shops. That means that every unit would have to employ 36 people which seems a bit unrealistic considering the size of the majority of units. Especially when most of the businesses announced to date are ones that are moving from existing locations in the city.[/p][/quote]No, you have mis understood, there are lots of construction jobs that are included in that figure, its not all permanent retail jobs.[/p][/quote]No, you have misunderstood. Check the Westfield Bradford website. It says the centre will create 2500 retail jobs and 1500 construction jobs. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 5

10:00pm Thu 3 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!!
That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.
Bring it on haha. I've had my detractors but I'm not fussed in regards to most of the folk who frequent this particular site. Always give your posts a thumbs up Rolland. I know you're a music fan, check this rocker out!!!

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=GQVTtpE9
J7s
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again.[/p][/quote]Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!![/p][/quote]That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.[/p][/quote]Bring it on haha. I've had my detractors but I'm not fussed in regards to most of the folk who frequent this particular site. Always give your posts a thumbs up Rolland. I know you're a music fan, check this rocker out!!! https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=GQVTtpE9 J7s bcfc1903
  • Score: -3

10:07pm Thu 3 Apr 14

micela22 says...

I certainly won`t pay to park to shop in Bradford. I already pay full Council Tax & pay to park in poor carparks when I visit the theatres, which i frequent often & also when i visit the centre every week for charity work, would prefer to travel & park for free at locations i`ve found outside Bradford whilst Bradford has been getting it`s act together.
I certainly won`t pay to park to shop in Bradford. I already pay full Council Tax & pay to park in poor carparks when I visit the theatres, which i frequent often & also when i visit the centre every week for charity work, would prefer to travel & park for free at locations i`ve found outside Bradford whilst Bradford has been getting it`s act together. micela22
  • Score: -1

10:16pm Thu 3 Apr 14

RollandSmoke says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!!
That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.
Bring it on haha. I've had my detractors but I'm not fussed in regards to most of the folk who frequent this particular site. Always give your posts a thumbs up Rolland. I know you're a music fan, check this rocker out!!!

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=GQVTtpE9

J7s
Cheers for that. I'm going to have to get my amp cranked up some time soon. I've been trying to be considerate to the neighbors and stick to acoustic but I can only keep that up for so long. Anyone know of any electric jams in the area? I know there's one at the Baildon Con club but the name puts me off. I've been a couple of times, brightest lit pub I've ever been in, but then I wouldn't trust their usual clientele either.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again.[/p][/quote]Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!![/p][/quote]That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.[/p][/quote]Bring it on haha. I've had my detractors but I'm not fussed in regards to most of the folk who frequent this particular site. Always give your posts a thumbs up Rolland. I know you're a music fan, check this rocker out!!! https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=GQVTtpE9 J7s[/p][/quote]Cheers for that. I'm going to have to get my amp cranked up some time soon. I've been trying to be considerate to the neighbors and stick to acoustic but I can only keep that up for so long. Anyone know of any electric jams in the area? I know there's one at the Baildon Con club but the name puts me off. I've been a couple of times, brightest lit pub I've ever been in, but then I wouldn't trust their usual clientele either. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -3

10:33pm Thu 3 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
collos25 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.
The voice of the council speaks again.
Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!!
That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.
Bring it on haha. I've had my detractors but I'm not fussed in regards to most of the folk who frequent this particular site. Always give your posts a thumbs up Rolland. I know you're a music fan, check this rocker out!!!

https://www.youtube.


com/watch?v=GQVTtpE9


J7s
Cheers for that. I'm going to have to get my amp cranked up some time soon. I've been trying to be considerate to the neighbors and stick to acoustic but I can only keep that up for so long. Anyone know of any electric jams in the area? I know there's one at the Baildon Con club but the name puts me off. I've been a couple of times, brightest lit pub I've ever been in, but then I wouldn't trust their usual clientele either.
We go from time to time, they seem quite friendly, we don't talk politics that's for sure haha. Been to many rock jam sessions around Bradford as our youngest son is a budding rock guitarist. He has his own band now so we don't go to many nowadays. Try the Black Bull in Clayton, It's held every Monday. Like most jams, they like a decent level of performance. Kicks off around 9-30 usually finishes at 11-30.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I think Bradford Council and Council Leader Green are doing an excellent job in driving Bradford and the District forward. Meyer Bergman deserve great credit for investing in the City of Bradford, it's like Bradford has gone full circle when looking at the historic foreign investment in Bradford made by the German Wool Merchants in the 19th and 20th century. Great that more regeneration projects are in the pipeline, one major scheme has certainly yet to be made public. As Joedavid says above, the Odeon scheme needs to be selected which when completed will give that part of the city centre another fantastic facility that would go hand in hand with any new restaurants and those like Forsters already established. The Tunnel scheme, if it proceeds, would add a unique retail aspect to the city centre.[/p][/quote]The voice of the council speaks again.[/p][/quote]Hardly, but glad your an avid reader of my posts!!!![/p][/quote]That's how it starts. Next think you know you've got a stalker. You can have one of mine if you want. They're not very entertaining and have little to say but you welcome to them.[/p][/quote]Bring it on haha. I've had my detractors but I'm not fussed in regards to most of the folk who frequent this particular site. Always give your posts a thumbs up Rolland. I know you're a music fan, check this rocker out!!! https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=GQVTtpE9 J7s[/p][/quote]Cheers for that. I'm going to have to get my amp cranked up some time soon. I've been trying to be considerate to the neighbors and stick to acoustic but I can only keep that up for so long. Anyone know of any electric jams in the area? I know there's one at the Baildon Con club but the name puts me off. I've been a couple of times, brightest lit pub I've ever been in, but then I wouldn't trust their usual clientele either.[/p][/quote]We go from time to time, they seem quite friendly, we don't talk politics that's for sure haha. Been to many rock jam sessions around Bradford as our youngest son is a budding rock guitarist. He has his own band now so we don't go to many nowadays. Try the Black Bull in Clayton, It's held every Monday. Like most jams, they like a decent level of performance. Kicks off around 9-30 usually finishes at 11-30. bcfc1903
  • Score: -1

2:39am Fri 4 Apr 14

Walruss says...

micela22 wrote:
I certainly won`t pay to park to shop in Bradford. I already pay full Council Tax & pay to park in poor carparks when I visit the theatres, which i frequent often & also when i visit the centre every week for charity work, would prefer to travel & park for free at locations i`ve found outside Bradford whilst Bradford has been getting it`s act together.
Yes, free parking is going to be crucial to its success IMHO.
[quote][p][bold]micela22[/bold] wrote: I certainly won`t pay to park to shop in Bradford. I already pay full Council Tax & pay to park in poor carparks when I visit the theatres, which i frequent often & also when i visit the centre every week for charity work, would prefer to travel & park for free at locations i`ve found outside Bradford whilst Bradford has been getting it`s act together.[/p][/quote]Yes, free parking is going to be crucial to its success IMHO. Walruss
  • Score: -2

3:52am Fri 4 Apr 14

craftykhan says...

Better very very late than never that Westfield are finally getting on with it but for politicians to bask in glory really annoys me as they have done J***S*** over the years to help Bradfordians.
Better very very late than never that Westfield are finally getting on with it but for politicians to bask in glory really annoys me as they have done J***S*** over the years to help Bradfordians. craftykhan
  • Score: -4

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