Truancy fines soar as schools get tough with parents

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Schools are cracking down on truancy from class Schools are cracking down on truancy from class

An increasing number of fines are being dished out to parents in the Bradford district as schools get tough on truancy.

A Freedom of Information request has revealed that a soaring number of parents are being fined hundreds of pounds for taking children out of class without permission.

The number of penalty notices issued by the district’s state schools has rocketed to 692 in the first six months of this academic year, which started in September 2013.

And that is already 189 more than for the whole of the previous year, when 503 such penalties were sent to errant parents. Each penalty notice can carry as much as a £450 fine as punishment for a child’s unsanctioned absence.

Bradford Council’s education chief said there had been some issues with parents who had come to Bradford from Eastern Europe, where the statutory age at which children must start school is higher.

Coun Ralph Berry, the Council’s executive member for children and young people’s services, said: “The penalty notice has been a tool at schools’ disposal for a few years to tackle parentally-condoned absence and it is purely their decision to use it.

“And there is a mood for more interventions regarding attendance.”

Mr Berry said one aspect considered by schools was the level of importance placed on attendance figures by Government Ofsted inspectors.

“If attendance levels dip too low, they can find themselves in for a tough time when it comes to Ofsted reports,” Coun Berry said.

He highlighted a new problem area for schools which was prompted by a clash of educational cultures. “There have been issues with East European arrivals because in Slovakia, for example, the statutory start of school age is seven whereas here it’s five.

“In fact the British Isles is the only part of Europe where that’s true. Elsewhere provision is made with kindergartens etc, but sit-down education only becomes statutory for seven-year-olds.”

“But basically, time missed in class means lower results and here in Bradford the name of the game is getting those results up,” Coun Berry said.

Conservative education spokesman on Bradford Council, Roger L’Amie, welcomed the new get-tough approach by headteachers and said he was aware of a growing trend to clamp down on truancy.

“Some schools are definitely cracking down on absenteeism with a robust approach, which is a good thing.Basically, if you ‘ain’t at school – you ‘ain’t getting educated,” he said.

“And I understand groups of schools may have decided to bear down more heavily on irresponsible parents who take their children out of class for no good reason.”

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6:37am Mon 17 Mar 14

OLDLAD says...

And how much of the fines has been collected? Same amount as the council tax arrears I suspect!
And how much of the fines has been collected? Same amount as the council tax arrears I suspect! OLDLAD
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6:42am Mon 17 Mar 14

Albion. says...

"Bradford Council’s education chief said there had been some issues with parents who had come to Bradford from Eastern Europe, where the statutory age at which children must start school is higher."

Well that illustrates their attitude if they can't be bothered finding out what they're supposed to do here. I hope the fines include ALL absences, including those who go on extended visits to relatives in foreign parts.
"Bradford Council’s education chief said there had been some issues with parents who had come to Bradford from Eastern Europe, where the statutory age at which children must start school is higher." Well that illustrates their attitude if they can't be bothered finding out what they're supposed to do here. I hope the fines include ALL absences, including those who go on extended visits to relatives in foreign parts. Albion.
  • Score: 30

7:20am Mon 17 Mar 14

Cooperlane2 says...

Still cheaper to pay a fine than holiday during school holidays
Still cheaper to pay a fine than holiday during school holidays Cooperlane2
  • Score: 32

7:22am Mon 17 Mar 14

Mike Strutter says...

Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday.

I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.
Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday. I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike. Mike Strutter
  • Score: 40

8:00am Mon 17 Mar 14

buffetlegs says...

If the spokesman for Bradford Council's education department thinks that if kids aren't at school, they aren't being educated shows a particularly short-sighted view about education. There will be a number of children from chaotic families who will lose out if they don't attend, but there are others whose education will be enhanced by opportunities that can only be afforded out of term time. It seems to me that if the Education Department thought more about education than results; and spent more time working with problem families than collecting fines, we might see an improvement all round.
If the spokesman for Bradford Council's education department thinks that if kids aren't at school, they aren't being educated shows a particularly short-sighted view about education. There will be a number of children from chaotic families who will lose out if they don't attend, but there are others whose education will be enhanced by opportunities that can only be afforded out of term time. It seems to me that if the Education Department thought more about education than results; and spent more time working with problem families than collecting fines, we might see an improvement all round. buffetlegs
  • Score: 5

8:12am Mon 17 Mar 14

allinittogether says...

buffetlegs wrote:
If the spokesman for Bradford Council's education department thinks that if kids aren't at school, they aren't being educated shows a particularly short-sighted view about education. There will be a number of children from chaotic families who will lose out if they don't attend, but there are others whose education will be enhanced by opportunities that can only be afforded out of term time. It seems to me that if the Education Department thought more about education than results; and spent more time working with problem families than collecting fines, we might see an improvement all round.
Brilliant! In future I'm going to refer to holidays as "enhanced educational opportunities"
[quote][p][bold]buffetlegs[/bold] wrote: If the spokesman for Bradford Council's education department thinks that if kids aren't at school, they aren't being educated shows a particularly short-sighted view about education. There will be a number of children from chaotic families who will lose out if they don't attend, but there are others whose education will be enhanced by opportunities that can only be afforded out of term time. It seems to me that if the Education Department thought more about education than results; and spent more time working with problem families than collecting fines, we might see an improvement all round.[/p][/quote]Brilliant! In future I'm going to refer to holidays as "enhanced educational opportunities" allinittogether
  • Score: 21

8:42am Mon 17 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday.

I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.
Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day.

You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them.

They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday. I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.[/p][/quote]Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day. You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them. They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job Andy2010
  • Score: 24

8:48am Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

“But basically, time missed in class means lower results and here in Bradford the name of the game is getting those results up,” Coun Berry said.

Yet teachers have had numerous strikes during the last few years and the whole school system grinds to a hault at the first sign of snow, and guess what it's the parents who have to book time off work or make last minute arrangements to sort this out, but get instant fines if it's the other way round.
“But basically, time missed in class means lower results and here in Bradford the name of the game is getting those results up,” Coun Berry said. Yet teachers have had numerous strikes during the last few years and the whole school system grinds to a hault at the first sign of snow, and guess what it's the parents who have to book time off work or make last minute arrangements to sort this out, but get instant fines if it's the other way round. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 18

8:54am Mon 17 Mar 14

pcmanners says...

I suppose it's just a coincidence that truancy fines have gone up as Council income from parking fines has gone down.
I suppose it's just a coincidence that truancy fines have gone up as Council income from parking fines has gone down. pcmanners
  • Score: 9

9:13am Mon 17 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

pcmanners wrote:
I suppose it's just a coincidence that truancy fines have gone up as Council income from parking fines has gone down.
Fair point, but are these fines getting paid?
Is it worth fining Teachers for not turning in at the first sign of snowy weather.
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: I suppose it's just a coincidence that truancy fines have gone up as Council income from parking fines has gone down.[/p][/quote]Fair point, but are these fines getting paid? Is it worth fining Teachers for not turning in at the first sign of snowy weather. alive and awake
  • Score: 13

9:28am Mon 17 Mar 14

Storck says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Mike Strutter wrote:
Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday.

I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.
Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day.

You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them.

They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job
Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced.

Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday. I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.[/p][/quote]Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day. You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them. They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job[/p][/quote]Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced. Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out. Storck
  • Score: 1

9:35am Mon 17 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Storck wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Mike Strutter wrote:
Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday.

I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.
Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day.

You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them.

They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job
Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced.

Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.
No it wouldnt as its dealt with in the county court. If they didnt file a defence you would win judgement by default and you can then legally enforce at their registered offices.

You are perfectly legally entitled to issue a claim against them for your expenses when they cant be bothered going to work.

As for time and money well it takes about 20 mins to file online and costs £35 which you will get back when awarded the judgement or they pay.

What people dont understand is the courts are on your side as because of the Union's action you are incurring further childcare costs. As such you are legally entitled to issue a claim against them as they have instructed their members. You obviously need to put in a request for payment in the first instance and give them time to settle but your completely way off the mark if you think this would be "laughed" out

If more hard working people did this maybe the Unions would think twice before taking such action
[quote][p][bold]Storck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday. I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.[/p][/quote]Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day. You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them. They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job[/p][/quote]Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced. Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.[/p][/quote]No it wouldnt as its dealt with in the county court. If they didnt file a defence you would win judgement by default and you can then legally enforce at their registered offices. You are perfectly legally entitled to issue a claim against them for your expenses when they cant be bothered going to work. As for time and money well it takes about 20 mins to file online and costs £35 which you will get back when awarded the judgement or they pay. What people dont understand is the courts are on your side as because of the Union's action you are incurring further childcare costs. As such you are legally entitled to issue a claim against them as they have instructed their members. You obviously need to put in a request for payment in the first instance and give them time to settle but your completely way off the mark if you think this would be "laughed" out If more hard working people did this maybe the Unions would think twice before taking such action Andy2010
  • Score: 17

9:50am Mon 17 Mar 14

sorrow&anger says...

A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 1

10:13am Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
It'll be the dictionary you have in your browser I would think.
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]It'll be the dictionary you have in your browser I would think. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 10

10:16am Mon 17 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
It'll be the dictionary you have in your browser I would think.
Exactly

Just change the settings in the options tab to English UK
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]It'll be the dictionary you have in your browser I would think.[/p][/quote]Exactly Just change the settings in the options tab to English UK Andy2010
  • Score: 9

10:16am Mon 17 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
[quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned. Joedavid
  • Score: -7

10:16am Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

buffetlegs wrote:
If the spokesman for Bradford Council's education department thinks that if kids aren't at school, they aren't being educated shows a particularly short-sighted view about education. There will be a number of children from chaotic families who will lose out if they don't attend, but there are others whose education will be enhanced by opportunities that can only be afforded out of term time. It seems to me that if the Education Department thought more about education than results; and spent more time working with problem families than collecting fines, we might see an improvement all round.
I always suspect my daughters education was lacking because we didn't have 2 weeks skiing in the winter and 2 weeks at Disney world in the summer. :)

also, these "enhanced educational opportunities" can all generally be appreciated in the school holidays!
[quote][p][bold]buffetlegs[/bold] wrote: If the spokesman for Bradford Council's education department thinks that if kids aren't at school, they aren't being educated shows a particularly short-sighted view about education. There will be a number of children from chaotic families who will lose out if they don't attend, but there are others whose education will be enhanced by opportunities that can only be afforded out of term time. It seems to me that if the Education Department thought more about education than results; and spent more time working with problem families than collecting fines, we might see an improvement all round.[/p][/quote]I always suspect my daughters education was lacking because we didn't have 2 weeks skiing in the winter and 2 weeks at Disney world in the summer. :) also, these "enhanced educational opportunities" can all generally be appreciated in the school holidays! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 11

11:09am Mon 17 Mar 14

BierleyBoy says...

Ralph Berry very much on the fence there, and trying to mitigate for irresponsible, ignorant parents when there really is no excuse.

One would hope the council lead on children would have something decisive & worthwhile to say. Even something as simple as 'When in Rome'.
Ralph Berry very much on the fence there, and trying to mitigate for irresponsible, ignorant parents when there really is no excuse. One would hope the council lead on children would have something decisive & worthwhile to say. Even something as simple as 'When in Rome'. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 10

1:33pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BigFigure says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Storck wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Mike Strutter wrote:
Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday.

I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.
Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day.

You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them.

They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job
Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced.

Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.
No it wouldnt as its dealt with in the county court. If they didnt file a defence you would win judgement by default and you can then legally enforce at their registered offices.

You are perfectly legally entitled to issue a claim against them for your expenses when they cant be bothered going to work.

As for time and money well it takes about 20 mins to file online and costs £35 which you will get back when awarded the judgement or they pay.

What people dont understand is the courts are on your side as because of the Union's action you are incurring further childcare costs. As such you are legally entitled to issue a claim against them as they have instructed their members. You obviously need to put in a request for payment in the first instance and give them time to settle but your completely way off the mark if you think this would be "laughed" out

If more hard working people did this maybe the Unions would think twice before taking such action
good luck with that......
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Storck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday. I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.[/p][/quote]Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day. You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them. They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job[/p][/quote]Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced. Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.[/p][/quote]No it wouldnt as its dealt with in the county court. If they didnt file a defence you would win judgement by default and you can then legally enforce at their registered offices. You are perfectly legally entitled to issue a claim against them for your expenses when they cant be bothered going to work. As for time and money well it takes about 20 mins to file online and costs £35 which you will get back when awarded the judgement or they pay. What people dont understand is the courts are on your side as because of the Union's action you are incurring further childcare costs. As such you are legally entitled to issue a claim against them as they have instructed their members. You obviously need to put in a request for payment in the first instance and give them time to settle but your completely way off the mark if you think this would be "laughed" out If more hard working people did this maybe the Unions would think twice before taking such action[/p][/quote]good luck with that...... BigFigure
  • Score: -3

1:33pm Mon 17 Mar 14

The Hoffster says...

Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D

And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from? The Hoffster
  • Score: -9

1:47pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Albion. says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D

And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Manningham.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Manningham. Albion.
  • Score: 14

2:57pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D

And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Judging by all the kids on the PIA flights from Leeds Bradford...well...on those days far more Asian kids that white. so work it out.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Judging by all the kids on the PIA flights from Leeds Bradford...well...on those days far more Asian kids that white. so work it out. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 13

3:04pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

BigFigure wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Storck wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Mike Strutter wrote:
Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday.

I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.
Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day.

You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them.

They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job
Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced.

Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.
No it wouldnt as its dealt with in the county court. If they didnt file a defence you would win judgement by default and you can then legally enforce at their registered offices.

You are perfectly legally entitled to issue a claim against them for your expenses when they cant be bothered going to work.

As for time and money well it takes about 20 mins to file online and costs £35 which you will get back when awarded the judgement or they pay.

What people dont understand is the courts are on your side as because of the Union's action you are incurring further childcare costs. As such you are legally entitled to issue a claim against them as they have instructed their members. You obviously need to put in a request for payment in the first instance and give them time to settle but your completely way off the mark if you think this would be "laughed" out

If more hard working people did this maybe the Unions would think twice before taking such action
good luck with that......
NASUWT settled last year on 5 cases brought by parents for childcare costs so although appreciated your luck isn't really needed

What we need is EVERY parent to do this
[quote][p][bold]BigFigure[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Storck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Fair play fine the truants but don't take it out on hard working families who want to take their kids out a day early so they can have a cheaper holiday. I will keep this in mind next Wednesday when I have to take a day off work to look after my son because his teacher is on strike.[/p][/quote]Send the Union (s) a bill for £60 per child per day. You are legally entitled to do so and should they not pay you are also legally entitled to issue a county court claim against them. They cant on one hand turn round and preach (fine) parents for disrupting the children's education then on the other hand take a day off because they aren't happy about something to do with their job[/p][/quote]Anyone is legally entitled to send any invoice to anyone. It doesn't mean they will pay or that it can be enforced. Sending a union a bill for a legal strike would not be paid and if you wasted time, effort and money taking it to court it would be laughed out.[/p][/quote]No it wouldnt as its dealt with in the county court. If they didnt file a defence you would win judgement by default and you can then legally enforce at their registered offices. You are perfectly legally entitled to issue a claim against them for your expenses when they cant be bothered going to work. As for time and money well it takes about 20 mins to file online and costs £35 which you will get back when awarded the judgement or they pay. What people dont understand is the courts are on your side as because of the Union's action you are incurring further childcare costs. As such you are legally entitled to issue a claim against them as they have instructed their members. You obviously need to put in a request for payment in the first instance and give them time to settle but your completely way off the mark if you think this would be "laughed" out If more hard working people did this maybe the Unions would think twice before taking such action[/p][/quote]good luck with that......[/p][/quote]NASUWT settled last year on 5 cases brought by parents for childcare costs so although appreciated your luck isn't really needed What we need is EVERY parent to do this Andy2010
  • Score: 9

3:06pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D

And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Judging by all the kids on the PIA flights from Leeds Bradford...well...on those days far more Asian kids that white. so work it out.
Yeah but the girls are only going one way
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Judging by all the kids on the PIA flights from Leeds Bradford...well...on those days far more Asian kids that white. so work it out.[/p][/quote]Yeah but the girls are only going one way Andy2010
  • Score: 9

4:26pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BertSanders says...

Last week the ability of teachers to teach was in question - difficult it must be
when children often do not speak English and second;ly it seems the parents are not always cooperative. Children should attend school in term and parents are obligated by law to see this is done. It seems to me parents are much of the problem.
Last week the ability of teachers to teach was in question - difficult it must be when children often do not speak English and second;ly it seems the parents are not always cooperative. Children should attend school in term and parents are obligated by law to see this is done. It seems to me parents are much of the problem. BertSanders
  • Score: 12

5:01pm Mon 17 Mar 14

The Hoffster says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D

And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Judging by all the kids on the PIA flights from Leeds Bradford...well...on those days far more Asian kids that white. so work it out.
Yeah but the girls are only going one way
Ok, that made me lol....

:(
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Judging by all the kids on the PIA flights from Leeds Bradford...well...on those days far more Asian kids that white. so work it out.[/p][/quote]Yeah but the girls are only going one way[/p][/quote]Ok, that made me lol.... :( The Hoffster
  • Score: -3

5:27pm Mon 17 Mar 14

TAIWOJOL says...

Why is it that Braford Met can prosecute parents for their children being truant from school but yet when was the last time you heard of the Local Authority fining itself for absentees from school within its own "Looked after Care Sevice in Bradford? Is it a case of one rule for one ...?..Are the Corporate Parents ie...Bradford Council above the laws that govern this country?!! It's about time Bradford Met was brought to book and started fining itself due to the high levels of truancy within its "Care Homes" !!
Why is it that Braford Met can prosecute parents for their children being truant from school but yet when was the last time you heard of the Local Authority fining itself for absentees from school within its own "Looked after Care Sevice in Bradford? Is it a case of one rule for one ...?..Are the Corporate Parents ie...Bradford Council above the laws that govern this country?!! It's about time Bradford Met was brought to book and started fining itself due to the high levels of truancy within its "Care Homes" !! TAIWOJOL
  • Score: 3

5:51pm Mon 17 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

Albion. wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D

And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Manningham.
and the hortons.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Manningham.[/p][/quote]and the hortons. tinytoonster
  • Score: 8

6:07pm Mon 17 Mar 14

bd7 helper says...

waste of time. who pays
waste of time. who pays bd7 helper
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Mik_e says...

Why are teachers not prosecuted when they go on strike? They are causing pupils to miss school when they should be there.
Why are teachers not prosecuted when they go on strike? They are causing pupils to miss school when they should be there. Mik_e
  • Score: 3

7:37pm Mon 17 Mar 14

micela22 says...

can only afford to take family to visit relatives who live abroad in term time(for 1 week each year) as can`t afford it any other time, the benefits outweigh the 1 week `lost` education, we visit a capital city, meet extended family, eat out, taught the kids to read menus & general etiquette, they learnt to swim better in 1 week than 2 years of Bradford Councils swimming courses (paid for) learnt about the country & it`s history, in addition they completed all the schoolwork that had been assigned to them and the teachers noted an improvement in reading & writing as the environment for learning was less pressurised for all of us. On a side note my dad lived in Bradford & taught in a central Leeds school & never missed a day due to adverse weather (or strikes or teacher training day) if it snowed he got up early to make sure he made it to work, if it snowed when he was at work he was late home :-)
can only afford to take family to visit relatives who live abroad in term time(for 1 week each year) as can`t afford it any other time, the benefits outweigh the 1 week `lost` education, we visit a capital city, meet extended family, eat out, taught the kids to read menus & general etiquette, they learnt to swim better in 1 week than 2 years of Bradford Councils swimming courses (paid for) learnt about the country & it`s history, in addition they completed all the schoolwork that had been assigned to them and the teachers noted an improvement in reading & writing as the environment for learning was less pressurised for all of us. On a side note my dad lived in Bradford & taught in a central Leeds school & never missed a day due to adverse weather (or strikes or teacher training day) if it snowed he got up early to make sure he made it to work, if it snowed when he was at work he was late home :-) micela22
  • Score: 4

8:11pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Ratters Rat says...

Think some people are missing the point. The BIG QUESTION to Bradford council is How does a company allow 30 people to have holidays in school holidays and not term time you will always have winners and losers.This problem will only get worse in 2015 when schools can set their own holidays. You will have parents with children in primary and secondary on different holidays. The government talk about families and yet when they want to take a holiday as a family punish them for doing so. Many families have both parents working these days so quality time as a family is important. You can learn on holidays museums places of interest can be put into a child's learning.Giving parents fines is not the answer.Parents will be asked for doctors notes next when their child is ill .The council has got this one wrong they only need to look in their own departments to see what a mess they are causing this is going to push sickness through the roof with parents going off with stress.
Think some people are missing the point. The BIG QUESTION to Bradford council is How does a company allow 30 people to have holidays in school holidays and not term time you will always have winners and losers.This problem will only get worse in 2015 when schools can set their own holidays. You will have parents with children in primary and secondary on different holidays. The government talk about families and yet when they want to take a holiday as a family punish them for doing so. Many families have both parents working these days so quality time as a family is important. You can learn on holidays museums places of interest can be put into a child's learning.Giving parents fines is not the answer.Parents will be asked for doctors notes next when their child is ill .The council has got this one wrong they only need to look in their own departments to see what a mess they are causing this is going to push sickness through the roof with parents going off with stress. Ratters Rat
  • Score: 1

8:52pm Mon 17 Mar 14

sorrow&anger says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote:
A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
It'll be the dictionary you have in your browser I would think.
Exactly

Just change the settings in the options tab to English UK
Super. Thanks Andy. That worked. Mind,you, given all the government snooping these browsers do, you'd think it would know what country I was in.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]It'll be the dictionary you have in your browser I would think.[/p][/quote]Exactly Just change the settings in the options tab to English UK[/p][/quote]Super. Thanks Andy. That worked. Mind,you, given all the government snooping these browsers do, you'd think it would know what country I was in. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 3

11:31pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Realtruth says...

This is about filling the coffers nothing more.

Let's fine the teachers too. So far this school year my son has had an incessant supply of temps.
This is about filling the coffers nothing more. Let's fine the teachers too. So far this school year my son has had an incessant supply of temps. Realtruth
  • Score: 0

12:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

justjustice says...

It's crazy, they fine genuine parents who wish to take their kids on holiday during term time, probably the only time they get to spend time as a family for such a long period of time rather than at the dinner table. Yet they ignore the bad "parents" who obviously do not care about their kids and dont even care if their kids are at school.

Which kid suffers more, the kid who doesnt go to school and whose parents' only care is a benefits cheque; or the parent who works hard, makes sure their kids go to school, but cant afford a holiday during normal school holidays, wanted to take them on holiday for one week during term time....
It's crazy, they fine genuine parents who wish to take their kids on holiday during term time, probably the only time they get to spend time as a family for such a long period of time rather than at the dinner table. Yet they ignore the bad "parents" who obviously do not care about their kids and dont even care if their kids are at school. Which kid suffers more, the kid who doesnt go to school and whose parents' only care is a benefits cheque; or the parent who works hard, makes sure their kids go to school, but cant afford a holiday during normal school holidays, wanted to take them on holiday for one week during term time.... justjustice
  • Score: 2

1:08am Tue 18 Mar 14

spinnekop says...

I am sensing a total abdication of responsibility here, including my spelling, and there is no point writing this because it will make as much difference as a vote in the Crimea, or Scotland for that matter.

If you can't afford to go on holiday during school holidays then maybe you really should be making sure your kids are in school when they should be because you are quite obviously so poorly educated you don't understand that the only way out of your 'poverty' is through education and a willingness to learn and adapt to the situation you exist in.

On the other hand, if you are bright enough to understand that most people in this country are wage slaves and have no choice even when they know what they are being force fed by the media and forced to do for the smallest amount of reward possible so the Uber Rich get to keep what they have enslaved every other daft begger do is wrong, E.G. teachers, why don't you stand up for yourself and strike?

Or is the fact that any form of 'group' dissension has been literally beaten out of our society and has made you too terrified to breathe?

Och, go for it. Don't even bother to let your kids go to school, then they can join the ranks of isolated anti-social misfits that fill the prisons and court files. Yes, those very people you guffaw at from your over stuffed couch while you watch them debase our very humanity on your giant TV screen you struggle to find payments for on your poverty wage while middle management button pushing bankers roll home with great fat bonuses.

Or, you could just let your kids go to school because learning is fun and on the whole it makes you a better person if you can make an informed decision aboot 'stuff'.

Believe it or not, being useful to humanity makes you feel good.
I am sensing a total abdication of responsibility here, including my spelling, and there is no point writing this because it will make as much difference as a vote in the Crimea, or Scotland for that matter. If you can't afford to go on holiday during school holidays then maybe you really should be making sure your kids are in school when they should be because you are quite obviously so poorly educated you don't understand that the only way out of your 'poverty' is through education and a willingness to learn and adapt to the situation you exist in. On the other hand, if you are bright enough to understand that most people in this country are wage slaves and have no choice even when they know what they are being force fed by the media and forced to do for the smallest amount of reward possible so the Uber Rich get to keep what they have enslaved every other daft begger do is wrong, E.G. teachers, why don't you stand up for yourself and strike? Or is the fact that any form of 'group' dissension has been literally beaten out of our society and has made you too terrified to breathe? Och, go for it. Don't even bother to let your kids go to school, then they can join the ranks of isolated anti-social misfits that fill the prisons and court files. Yes, those very people you guffaw at from your over stuffed couch while you watch them debase our very humanity on your giant TV screen you struggle to find payments for on your poverty wage while middle management button pushing bankers roll home with great fat bonuses. Or, you could just let your kids go to school because learning is fun and on the whole it makes you a better person if you can make an informed decision aboot 'stuff'. Believe it or not, being useful to humanity makes you feel good. spinnekop
  • Score: 1

8:45am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

justjustice wrote:
It's crazy, they fine genuine parents who wish to take their kids on holiday during term time, probably the only time they get to spend time as a family for such a long period of time rather than at the dinner table. Yet they ignore the bad "parents" who obviously do not care about their kids and dont even care if their kids are at school.

Which kid suffers more, the kid who doesnt go to school and whose parents' only care is a benefits cheque; or the parent who works hard, makes sure their kids go to school, but cant afford a holiday during normal school holidays, wanted to take them on holiday for one week during term time....
Exactly right

The schools know and dont mind parents taking their children out of school for a couple of weeks a year abroad as a family as the benefit to the children far outweighs anything they will learn in school.

Alas this policy of fining has escalated in recent year due to minority parents who will often "visit relatives" for 3 months at a time or attend family weddings abroad for weeks.

The normal hard working parents who simply want to spend time as a family experiencing new cultures and languages are the ones suffering. Yes obviously in an ideal world all parents would take their children on holiday in school holidays but due to financial reasons cannot in holidays.

Children get so much more out of spending time within their families abroad especially for a week or so than they will ever lose by missing school for a week

This is just once again minorities ruining it for everyone else and the slow deterioration of the normal English family
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: It's crazy, they fine genuine parents who wish to take their kids on holiday during term time, probably the only time they get to spend time as a family for such a long period of time rather than at the dinner table. Yet they ignore the bad "parents" who obviously do not care about their kids and dont even care if their kids are at school. Which kid suffers more, the kid who doesnt go to school and whose parents' only care is a benefits cheque; or the parent who works hard, makes sure their kids go to school, but cant afford a holiday during normal school holidays, wanted to take them on holiday for one week during term time....[/p][/quote]Exactly right The schools know and dont mind parents taking their children out of school for a couple of weeks a year abroad as a family as the benefit to the children far outweighs anything they will learn in school. Alas this policy of fining has escalated in recent year due to minority parents who will often "visit relatives" for 3 months at a time or attend family weddings abroad for weeks. The normal hard working parents who simply want to spend time as a family experiencing new cultures and languages are the ones suffering. Yes obviously in an ideal world all parents would take their children on holiday in school holidays but due to financial reasons cannot in holidays. Children get so much more out of spending time within their families abroad especially for a week or so than they will ever lose by missing school for a week This is just once again minorities ruining it for everyone else and the slow deterioration of the normal English family Andy2010
  • Score: 2

9:15am Tue 18 Mar 14

BertSanders says...

Parents have to give up some things for the benefit of their children.
We did not get child care. Wives got jobs compatible with school term. It was difficult but our children have jobs and benefitted from education.
Benefits are ruining society and causing dependence - they should be the last resort but appear to be an adjuct of work or a lifestyle.
Parents have to give up some things for the benefit of their children. We did not get child care. Wives got jobs compatible with school term. It was difficult but our children have jobs and benefitted from education. Benefits are ruining society and causing dependence - they should be the last resort but appear to be an adjuct of work or a lifestyle. BertSanders
  • Score: 2

11:52am Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
justjustice wrote:
It's crazy, they fine genuine parents who wish to take their kids on holiday during term time, probably the only time they get to spend time as a family for such a long period of time rather than at the dinner table. Yet they ignore the bad "parents" who obviously do not care about their kids and dont even care if their kids are at school.

Which kid suffers more, the kid who doesnt go to school and whose parents' only care is a benefits cheque; or the parent who works hard, makes sure their kids go to school, but cant afford a holiday during normal school holidays, wanted to take them on holiday for one week during term time....
Exactly right

The schools know and dont mind parents taking their children out of school for a couple of weeks a year abroad as a family as the benefit to the children far outweighs anything they will learn in school.

Alas this policy of fining has escalated in recent year due to minority parents who will often "visit relatives" for 3 months at a time or attend family weddings abroad for weeks.

The normal hard working parents who simply want to spend time as a family experiencing new cultures and languages are the ones suffering. Yes obviously in an ideal world all parents would take their children on holiday in school holidays but due to financial reasons cannot in holidays.

Children get so much more out of spending time within their families abroad especially for a week or so than they will ever lose by missing school for a week

This is just once again minorities ruining it for everyone else and the slow deterioration of the normal English family
How does a week or two in Spain (or wherever) far outweigh the benefits of learning in school?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: It's crazy, they fine genuine parents who wish to take their kids on holiday during term time, probably the only time they get to spend time as a family for such a long period of time rather than at the dinner table. Yet they ignore the bad "parents" who obviously do not care about their kids and dont even care if their kids are at school. Which kid suffers more, the kid who doesnt go to school and whose parents' only care is a benefits cheque; or the parent who works hard, makes sure their kids go to school, but cant afford a holiday during normal school holidays, wanted to take them on holiday for one week during term time....[/p][/quote]Exactly right The schools know and dont mind parents taking their children out of school for a couple of weeks a year abroad as a family as the benefit to the children far outweighs anything they will learn in school. Alas this policy of fining has escalated in recent year due to minority parents who will often "visit relatives" for 3 months at a time or attend family weddings abroad for weeks. The normal hard working parents who simply want to spend time as a family experiencing new cultures and languages are the ones suffering. Yes obviously in an ideal world all parents would take their children on holiday in school holidays but due to financial reasons cannot in holidays. Children get so much more out of spending time within their families abroad especially for a week or so than they will ever lose by missing school for a week This is just once again minorities ruining it for everyone else and the slow deterioration of the normal English family[/p][/quote]How does a week or two in Spain (or wherever) far outweigh the benefits of learning in school? Bone_idle18
  • Score: 0

12:42pm Tue 18 Mar 14

MyBradford says...

I know it is wrong to undermine children education but why are government and everyone else after parents & their money instead of improving education.
I say this because airline fares double even triple during school holidays.
If government was serious about children education then they would tackle this problem so everyone would only go away during school holidays.

But reality is that parents are forced to go away during term time because fares are cheap or other option would be not to go at all which is not fare on children who enjoy visiting new places & experience life to the fullest.

Tackle the airline fares so they are cheaper during school holidays & this problem will fix itself.
I know it is wrong to undermine children education but why are government and everyone else after parents & their money instead of improving education. I say this because airline fares double even triple during school holidays. If government was serious about children education then they would tackle this problem so everyone would only go away during school holidays. But reality is that parents are forced to go away during term time because fares are cheap or other option would be not to go at all which is not fare on children who enjoy visiting new places & experience life to the fullest. Tackle the airline fares so they are cheaper during school holidays & this problem will fix itself. MyBradford
  • Score: 5

1:16pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bobbyo says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Albion. wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Manningham.
and the hortons.
And barkerend !
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Manningham.[/p][/quote]and the hortons.[/p][/quote]And barkerend ! bobbyo
  • Score: -2

1:22pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bobbyo says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Albion. wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Manningham.
and the hortons.
And barkerend !
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Manningham.[/p][/quote]and the hortons.[/p][/quote]And barkerend ! bobbyo
  • Score: -3

1:25pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bobbyo says...

Albion. wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
sorrow&anger wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.
T&A is American owned.
Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?
Manningham.
And Barkerend.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sorrow&anger[/bold] wrote: A bit off topic, but does anybody know why the spell checker in these comment boxes prefers American usage? If an institution like the T&A can't be bothered to spell properly then you can't blame our kids for deciding that there's no point in getting an education.[/p][/quote]T&A is American owned.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D And on a more serious note, does anyone know which BNP/EDL hell-holes the majority of these truants come from?[/p][/quote]Manningham.[/p][/quote]And Barkerend. bobbyo
  • Score: -1

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