Traders "strike" over new rules at Bradford wholesale market

PROTEST: Traders who use St James Market objecting to Council changes at the wholesale depot

PROTEST: Traders who use St James Market objecting to Council changes at the wholesale depot

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Dozens of fruit and veg traders went “on strike” yesterday over changes to rules at the city’s wholesale market.

The traders, who buy their goods at St James Market on Wakefield Road, are furious that Bradford Council has introduced a number of new rules for the site.

They say they were sent a letter on Friday informing them of the rules, which came into effect on Monday morning.

And they have now formed a traders group, the St James Traders Association, directly in response to the changes, which they believe are unfair.

They said many of the traders have door-to-door fruit and veg businesses, and the community relies on their trade – which would be harmed by the Council’s new proposals. Changes include the amount of time they can park their vehicles at the market to two hours and tougher rules on how they dispose of cardboard.

Early yesterday, more than 65 traders descended on the market in protest, withholding their regular trade.

They also complained about conditions in the market.

Councillor Mohammed Shafiq (Lab, Bradford Moor), attended the strike and spoke on behalf of the traders.

“Most of these traders have been here for a number of years,” he said.

“They pay to come and buy fruit and veg here but now they have been told that they are only allowed to park here for two hours when it can take them three to four hours to shop here. They have also been told they can’t leave cardboard boxes on the floor while they are here or they could get fined.

“They get a letter on Friday and they are expected to comply by Monday. That’s not acceptable. The Council needs to look at its policies again.

“These traders supply food to vulnerable people and people with mobility issues who have trouble getting to shops. I am going to be taking these changes up with the Council – there needs to be more clarity.” One of the traders, Abdul Khan, said yesterday: “Tomorrow we will go as normal, but if things don’t improve we’ll do this again the next day.”

He said traders normally cleared empty boxes after they were done for the day, but now they faced fines if they left any for a short amount of time.

Tony Stephens, Bradford Council’s assistant director for culture and tourism, said: “Many traders leave cardboard boxes and refuse on the market floor making it untidy. On top of that there is only a limited amount of space for parking and those traders staying a long time add to congestion on the site.

“These items were discussed at the last Tenants' Association AGM where tenants voted for these changes in procedure.”

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7:12am Tue 11 Mar 14

Albion. says...

“These items were discussed at the last Tenants' Association AGM where tenants voted for these changes in procedure.”

I can't see how the traders stance is sustainable.
“These items were discussed at the last Tenants' Association AGM where tenants voted for these changes in procedure.” I can't see how the traders stance is sustainable. Albion.
  • Score: 16

7:44am Tue 11 Mar 14

Whatthejuice says...

Strange picture, somethings not right, just can't put my finger on it!
Strange picture, somethings not right, just can't put my finger on it! Whatthejuice
  • Score: 12

8:40am Tue 11 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

C'mon....why does it "take" them 3-4 hours to buy their goods?

Surely a trader would be buying the goods as quickly as possible and then selling them just as quick as presumably the fresh would remain

Something else if afoot here
C'mon....why does it "take" them 3-4 hours to buy their goods? Surely a trader would be buying the goods as quickly as possible and then selling them just as quick as presumably the fresh would remain Something else if afoot here Andy2010
  • Score: 18

5:45pm Tue 11 Mar 14

wassock says...

Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.
Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager. wassock
  • Score: -5

6:19pm Tue 11 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

3-4 hours to load to buy and load up! what a load of tosh.I know a bit about this, and when I was buying there I was in and out as fast as poss to get the gear sold, mind you some of these traders will be open until midnight.
3-4 hours to load to buy and load up! what a load of tosh.I know a bit about this, and when I was buying there I was in and out as fast as poss to get the gear sold, mind you some of these traders will be open until midnight. alive and awake
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Tue 11 Mar 14

wassock says...

St James Wholesale Market is a great market.Its unique and i once visited and actually saw the council attendants recycling,and i couldnt believe my eyes.The colossal work load they face daily.In ALL weather,and what a friendly bunch.I think if you sell cabbages all day you are bound to get bored,so the committee make up rules and regulations.I say ok only let the retailers shop for 2hrs,but make it free to shop there.No fines,no entrance fees and have a asian committee and union for the porters.Its 2014 its time to embrace modern times and cultures.The mobile traders are service providers.Lets help them do that service.
St James Wholesale Market is a great market.Its unique and i once visited and actually saw the council attendants recycling,and i couldnt believe my eyes.The colossal work load they face daily.In ALL weather,and what a friendly bunch.I think if you sell cabbages all day you are bound to get bored,so the committee make up rules and regulations.I say ok only let the retailers shop for 2hrs,but make it free to shop there.No fines,no entrance fees and have a asian committee and union for the porters.Its 2014 its time to embrace modern times and cultures.The mobile traders are service providers.Lets help them do that service. wassock
  • Score: -2

10:54pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Deli_76 says...

wassock wrote:
Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.
Sadly certain traders and customers will not adhere to council market rules ,
The majority the people who are protesting ( are the same people who come in to the market 10 mins before closure , for cheap fruit/veg and to fly tip all their previous waste inc household rubbish !)

They have no respect for the market or the council workers .

No offence intended but it's a market in the uk ,and the culture of meetings may involve a light alcohol tipple .
Do you suggest the next meeting is held on the grass on Wakefield road , where everyone sits crossed legged drinking rubicon Just to please a few idiots ?
[quote][p][bold]wassock[/bold] wrote: Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.[/p][/quote]Sadly certain traders and customers will not adhere to council market rules , The majority the people who are protesting ( are the same people who come in to the market 10 mins before closure , for cheap fruit/veg and to fly tip all their previous waste inc household rubbish !) They have no respect for the market or the council workers . No offence intended but it's a market in the uk ,and the culture of meetings may involve a light alcohol tipple . Do you suggest the next meeting is held on the grass on Wakefield road , where everyone sits crossed legged drinking rubicon Just to please a few idiots ? Deli_76
  • Score: 4

6:00am Wed 12 Mar 14

BradfordianAndProud says...

wassock wrote:
Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.
What a load of racist guff... don't you take about something you know nothing about either. It's got nothing to do with race you div and everything to do with them taking the **** at the market.

They throw out all their rubbish, take up over a car parking spot Iinside the market for nearly five hours and them throw out all their boxes before leaving. You wouldnt go to Tesco and throw out your rubbish would you??? Its costing the market between£80-100,000 per year to clean up after these dirty prats and that's on top of their normal ooperating costs.

Also your stupid comment about them being an "honest" trader is also false. They park illegally 100 yards down the road from established grocers and setup shop on the street. Now what would think if you were paying business rates for a shop only to get someone stealing your trade and not paying anything? Idiot...
[quote][p][bold]wassock[/bold] wrote: Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.[/p][/quote]What a load of racist guff... don't you take about something you know nothing about either. It's got nothing to do with race you div and everything to do with them taking the **** at the market. They throw out all their rubbish, take up over a car parking spot Iinside the market for nearly five hours and them throw out all their boxes before leaving. You wouldnt go to Tesco and throw out your rubbish would you??? Its costing the market between£80-100,000 per year to clean up after these dirty prats and that's on top of their normal ooperating costs. Also your stupid comment about them being an "honest" trader is also false. They park illegally 100 yards down the road from established grocers and setup shop on the street. Now what would think if you were paying business rates for a shop only to get someone stealing your trade and not paying anything? Idiot... BradfordianAndProud
  • Score: 2

9:24am Wed 12 Mar 14

wassock says...

What about outdoor markets selling fruit and veg.Are you saying the market must discriminate against mobile shops.Are you saying other types of traders never dump their waste? Even the tenants of the market make a mess.Maybe your completely correct in what you say.But i know one thing,the market needs an asian committee and a union for the porters.They need overtime pay.These lads are grafters! If its true that these mobile retailers make a mockery and drink rubicon in Wakefield Road then banish them forever.I do however find your comments harsh and extremely rude.Good day!
What about outdoor markets selling fruit and veg.Are you saying the market must discriminate against mobile shops.Are you saying other types of traders never dump their waste? Even the tenants of the market make a mess.Maybe your completely correct in what you say.But i know one thing,the market needs an asian committee and a union for the porters.They need overtime pay.These lads are grafters! If its true that these mobile retailers make a mockery and drink rubicon in Wakefield Road then banish them forever.I do however find your comments harsh and extremely rude.Good day! wassock
  • Score: -2

3:28pm Thu 13 Mar 14

citzen khan says...

Close. Market sell land offf or bring in private company to run it. Bill everyone for amount of rubbish they produce.. the market is only intreasted in keeping it services charges low has possible. What about traders who take over market all on a evening and dont pay rent or charges for space use.
Close. Market sell land offf or bring in private company to run it. Bill everyone for amount of rubbish they produce.. the market is only intreasted in keeping it services charges low has possible. What about traders who take over market all on a evening and dont pay rent or charges for space use. citzen khan
  • Score: 0

2:02pm Fri 14 Mar 14

citzen khan says...

Deli_76 wrote:
wassock wrote:
Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.
Sadly certain traders and customers will not adhere to council market rules ,
The majority the people who are protesting ( are the same people who come in to the market 10 mins before closure , for cheap fruit/veg and to fly tip all their previous waste inc household rubbish !)

They have no respect for the market or the council workers .

No offence intended but it's a market in the uk ,and the culture of meetings may involve a light alcohol tipple .
Do you suggest the next meeting is held on the grass on Wakefield road , where everyone sits crossed legged drinking rubicon Just to please a few idiots ?
The lap dancing bar is beterrer or a brothel
[quote][p][bold]Deli_76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wassock[/bold] wrote: Typical people commenting on something they know nothing about.However i do know that the Market commitee consists of mostly white traders who hold their AGM meetings with no thoughts of the Asains.Also may i add that the card makes the council alot of money.Why do the market commitee hold meetings where there is alcohol? And the food at the meetings probably haram.Not all people want to get ratarsed at meetings and then go to lapdancing bars! The good people of St James are mostly devout muslims.The market commitee still thinks its the year 1900.Look at how they treat their staff,no overtime,sick pay or even a 5 day week.The porters work 6 days.No pension.There needs to be a muslim voice or market manager.[/p][/quote]Sadly certain traders and customers will not adhere to council market rules , The majority the people who are protesting ( are the same people who come in to the market 10 mins before closure , for cheap fruit/veg and to fly tip all their previous waste inc household rubbish !) They have no respect for the market or the council workers . No offence intended but it's a market in the uk ,and the culture of meetings may involve a light alcohol tipple . Do you suggest the next meeting is held on the grass on Wakefield road , where everyone sits crossed legged drinking rubicon Just to please a few idiots ?[/p][/quote]The lap dancing bar is beterrer or a brothel citzen khan
  • Score: 0

2:09pm Fri 14 Mar 14

citzen khan says...

Albion. wrote:
“These items were discussed at the last Tenants' Association AGM where tenants voted for these changes in procedure.”

I can't see how the traders stance is sustainable.
How many of the asain stall holders attend the metting apart from a.r butt. Were tri imp ipresent at this agm metting. The council own the marlket. The tennant has to much say even tho it only a handful of tennants who attend agm. Bring in serco to run market
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: “These items were discussed at the last Tenants' Association AGM where tenants voted for these changes in procedure.” I can't see how the traders stance is sustainable.[/p][/quote]How many of the asain stall holders attend the metting apart from a.r butt. Were tri imp ipresent at this agm metting. The council own the marlket. The tennant has to much say even tho it only a handful of tennants who attend agm. Bring in serco to run market citzen khan
  • Score: 0

3:01pm Fri 14 Mar 14

wassock says...

Serco could indeed run the market but the traders would suffer.Firstly they would not find people willing to do the recycling involved for the wage they recieve.As far as i am told the council workers are vetted for criminal records and have to take a medical.They are first aiders and are trained to NVQ level in customer service.I cannot see the traders paying more money to have the market run by Serco.Also a private company would be very strict with Health and Safety.The market site would need alot of changes,a private company would not have favourites,so all rules would need adhearing to by all.I understand that there should be two committees.Certainly get a councillor to help asians
Serco could indeed run the market but the traders would suffer.Firstly they would not find people willing to do the recycling involved for the wage they recieve.As far as i am told the council workers are vetted for criminal records and have to take a medical.They are first aiders and are trained to NVQ level in customer service.I cannot see the traders paying more money to have the market run by Serco.Also a private company would be very strict with Health and Safety.The market site would need alot of changes,a private company would not have favourites,so all rules would need adhearing to by all.I understand that there should be two committees.Certainly get a councillor to help asians wassock
  • Score: 0

3:12pm Fri 14 Mar 14

wassock says...

I read on here that some traders think asians drink rubicon in Wakefield Road crossed legged.I rest my case,a racist comment by a rascist trader,(i presume Deli 76 works or runs DeliFresh from within the wholesale market.Quite a strange comment from a strange mind,i ask you this Mr Deli76,who would even consider building a food holding area or factory inches away from a SCRAPYARD! Let alone BUILD IT! And there is a sign on the fence advertising the fact.My son shops at the market and anyone not believing this go and see for yourselves.Essex Street Bradford,just look for the rats in the Scrapyard and they will lead you to DeliFresh new building for FOOD! Atleast Rubicon is from a clean can.
I read on here that some traders think asians drink rubicon in Wakefield Road crossed legged.I rest my case,a racist comment by a rascist trader,(i presume Deli 76 works or runs DeliFresh from within the wholesale market.Quite a strange comment from a strange mind,i ask you this Mr Deli76,who would even consider building a food holding area or factory inches away from a SCRAPYARD! Let alone BUILD IT! And there is a sign on the fence advertising the fact.My son shops at the market and anyone not believing this go and see for yourselves.Essex Street Bradford,just look for the rats in the Scrapyard and they will lead you to DeliFresh new building for FOOD! Atleast Rubicon is from a clean can. wassock
  • Score: -2

7:21pm Sun 16 Mar 14

citzen khan says...

There are 21 asian bussiness tentant in st james market and 8 wjite whoattend agm is the question
There are 21 asian bussiness tentant in st james market and 8 wjite whoattend agm is the question citzen khan
  • Score: 0

8:49pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Mr P Lumb says...

Wassock you seem to be missing the point in all this and to start making comments about one specific company on the market seems to point to some form of vendetta or having a rather blunt axe to grind. To speak without knowledge is at best dangerous and at worse ignorant. Delifresh, as you might know if you worked or even spoke to anyone who is employed there, is what I'd describe as a model, culturally diverse, inclusive and forward thinking company that offers equal opportunities to all and to make such uniformed and myopic opinions without foundation is crass and very unprofessional. Delifresh have invested in excess of £2million to create new jobs, new opportunities, breath life into a part of the city that has been left to rot and what do they receive in return for investing in their people and the future? Stupid and irresponsible comments, the like of which have served to hold the great city of Bradford back and pander to a minority of self serving individuals who refuse to conform to common sense and good working practices .
Wassock you seem to be missing the point in all this and to start making comments about one specific company on the market seems to point to some form of vendetta or having a rather blunt axe to grind. To speak without knowledge is at best dangerous and at worse ignorant. Delifresh, as you might know if you worked or even spoke to anyone who is employed there, is what I'd describe as a model, culturally diverse, inclusive and forward thinking company that offers equal opportunities to all and to make such uniformed and myopic opinions without foundation is crass and very unprofessional. Delifresh have invested in excess of £2million to create new jobs, new opportunities, breath life into a part of the city that has been left to rot and what do they receive in return for investing in their people and the future? Stupid and irresponsible comments, the like of which have served to hold the great city of Bradford back and pander to a minority of self serving individuals who refuse to conform to common sense and good working practices . Mr P Lumb
  • Score: 2

9:59pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Wazzock says...

What rubbish talking this is, like rubbish in skips where the rats of the scrapping yard are living! These racist fellows with their naughty rubicon laced jokies are laughing in our mobile trading people faces and my son who buys the vegetables in the market is most angry with these deli76 pig dogs. It is our absolute right to be taking many hours buying our fruits on market and why is it problem for us dumping all our rubbish on floor, leaving boxes and dead chickens in untidy looking piles on the floor? We pay mainly 30p per day to come in market, although some of us pretend to be tenants so get in free, so surely we have right to dump all our things and take out spicky and span looking shop on wheels after 6 hours in the market hall? Just cos silly tenant are paying for all waste to go to landfill and to pay too for market cleaners to clean up after we have done our business - what is problem with that??
What rubbish talking this is, like rubbish in skips where the rats of the scrapping yard are living! These racist fellows with their naughty rubicon laced jokies are laughing in our mobile trading people faces and my son who buys the vegetables in the market is most angry with these deli76 pig dogs. It is our absolute right to be taking many hours buying our fruits on market and why is it problem for us dumping all our rubbish on floor, leaving boxes and dead chickens in untidy looking piles on the floor? We pay mainly 30p per day to come in market, although some of us pretend to be tenants so get in free, so surely we have right to dump all our things and take out spicky and span looking shop on wheels after 6 hours in the market hall? Just cos silly tenant are paying for all waste to go to landfill and to pay too for market cleaners to clean up after we have done our business - what is problem with that?? Wazzock
  • Score: 2

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