Shop owners refuse to remove security rollers in Bradford's city centre conservation area

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Owner of iPhone Plus, Irfan Qaiser, outside his shop in Ivegate, with the security shutters that are not within planning rules Owner of iPhone Plus, Irfan Qaiser, outside his shop in Ivegate, with the security shutters that are not within planning rules

Defiant shopkeepers are refusing to remove security shutters put up without planning permission, saying they need protection from criminal raids.

Four shops in Bradford city centre’s conservation area have been sent enforcement notices from Bradford Council telling them to remove their external roller shutters.

The shops are all in Ivegate, where shop-front shutters are usually only allowed if they are inside the windows or made out of traditional timber.

But business owners are digging their heels in, saying criminals have repeatedly targeted the street. The firms affected are phone shops iPhone Plus, Mobile Zone, Connecting U and Sidats Telecom.

Irfan Qaiser, who runs iPhone Plus, said he thought he had permission for shutters, so was taking legal advice.

He said he used to run XLine Mobiles next door, where in 2012 burglars had smashed the glass door and fled with a haul of expensive phones. The raid had cost him £10,000.

Burglars also struck Mobile Zone in October, taking £1,000 of goods. Owner Muhammad Rizwan said he wanted the area’s crime problem sorted before he took the shutters down.

Ebrahim Sidat, of Sidats Telecom, said a burglary there had cost the business £14,000, so he had no option but to keep the shutters.

And Asad Ashraf, of Connecting U, said: “I’m not going to budge and I’m not going to take any shutters off.”

Councillor Val Slater, the Council’s executive member for planning, said: “Ivegate is very important to us because it’s a key part of the city centre and a conservation area. With Westfield coming onstream, it’s important we make the rest of the city centre as attractive as we can.”

Coun Slater said metal roller shutters could bring the look of an area down, and nearby North Parade was a good example of how shutters could be put up within the rules.

She said: “We wouldn’t ask them to take their shutters down and compromise their security. We just ask that they use the right type.”

Val Summerscales, of Bradford Chamber of Trade, called for a compromise to be found.

She said it was important to maintain the appearance of the conservation area, but the permitted shutters were more expensive to fit, so the Council should offer to subsidise them.

She said: “Some of these Council officials who make these policies want to try to run a business for a month and just see the difficulties.”

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11:54am Wed 12 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

I don't agree with flouting planning laws, but I understand their point, another climb down by Bradford Council.
I don't agree with flouting planning laws, but I understand their point, another climb down by Bradford Council. alive and awake

12:17pm Wed 12 Feb 14

kellyh1981 says...

What on Ivegate actually looks like it is being conserved?
What on Ivegate actually looks like it is being conserved? kellyh1981

12:43pm Wed 12 Feb 14

justjustice says...

I think the answer is simple

1) Keep the shutters allow them to protect their business
2) Move shops to another location, plenty of empty shops around
3) Bradford council is to compensate the businesses if the shutter are removed for every future theft that occurs.
I think the answer is simple 1) Keep the shutters allow them to protect their business 2) Move shops to another location, plenty of empty shops around 3) Bradford council is to compensate the businesses if the shutter are removed for every future theft that occurs. justjustice

1:29pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Macca51 says...

Councillor Val Slater, the Council’s executive member for planning, says 'Ivegate is very important to us because it’s a key part of the city centre and a conservation area. With Westfield coming onstream, it’s important we make the rest of the city centre as attractive as we can'

Either she hasnt been up there recently or has sniffed far too much glue. Ivegate is bloody awful, and consists mainly of loads of dodgy looking characters hanging around at the bottom of it, and the shops/pubs are horrible.

Many other town centres are of course suffering at the moment, but Bradford seems to be unique in enjoying it's own unique blend of despair and ineptitude, primarily courtesy of the economic downturn and also years of spectacular stupidy from successive councillors of all political persuasions.

It's been a while since I've had the (mis) fortune to take a wander around the city centre and yesterday I did just that. If I want to borrow a ton of money from what can only be called legalised loan sharks and then blow it all in the bookies, then it's happy days.

A while ago the council were challenged about why there were so many bookies, pay day lenders there and the coucli leaders response was that they were legally unable to actually prevent this from happening.

In view of this, it does beg the question, what precisely do the council do apart from spending 10 year plus, sorting out how to fill the in the Westfield hole.,allow the once great Odeon to fall into such a sad state and also come up with crass comments about Ivegate and conservation.

Discuss ........ :-)
Councillor Val Slater, the Council’s executive member for planning, says 'Ivegate is very important to us because it’s a key part of the city centre and a conservation area. With Westfield coming onstream, it’s important we make the rest of the city centre as attractive as we can' Either she hasnt been up there recently or has sniffed far too much glue. Ivegate is bloody awful, and consists mainly of loads of dodgy looking characters hanging around at the bottom of it, and the shops/pubs are horrible. Many other town centres are of course suffering at the moment, but Bradford seems to be unique in enjoying it's own unique blend of despair and ineptitude, primarily courtesy of the economic downturn and also years of spectacular stupidy from successive councillors of all political persuasions. It's been a while since I've had the (mis) fortune to take a wander around the city centre and yesterday I did just that. If I want to borrow a ton of money from what can only be called legalised loan sharks and then blow it all in the bookies, then it's happy days. A while ago the council were challenged about why there were so many bookies, pay day lenders there and the coucli leaders response was that they were legally unable to actually prevent this from happening. In view of this, it does beg the question, what precisely do the council do apart from spending 10 year plus, sorting out how to fill the in the Westfield hole.,allow the once great Odeon to fall into such a sad state and also come up with crass comments about Ivegate and conservation. Discuss ........ :-) Macca51

1:56pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Albion. says...

I don't blame the shop owners for bettering their security but the rules regarding inner shutters was pointed out on here years ago. Is this yet another example of doing whatever you please and then laughing up your sleeve as the council shows it's lack of backbone?
I don't blame the shop owners for bettering their security but the rules regarding inner shutters was pointed out on here years ago. Is this yet another example of doing whatever you please and then laughing up your sleeve as the council shows it's lack of backbone? Albion.

2:09pm Wed 12 Feb 14

basil fawlty says...

Hopefully when the city centre shopping is revived these tack shops will all move on anyway.
Hopefully when the city centre shopping is revived these tack shops will all move on anyway. basil fawlty

2:42pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Albion. wrote:
I don't blame the shop owners for bettering their security but the rules regarding inner shutters was pointed out on here years ago. Is this yet another example of doing whatever you please and then laughing up your sleeve as the council shows it's lack of backbone?
Of course it is. Business owner decides to do whatever he pleases in what is supposed to be an ancient and now conserved street in Bradford. He gets challenged for it and digs his heels in. The other businesses of like minded 'I do what I want' mentality close ranks. The council back off for fear of upsetting the locals, just as like the police would if this was a criminal matter.
Business owners get their own way and so it goes in Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I don't blame the shop owners for bettering their security but the rules regarding inner shutters was pointed out on here years ago. Is this yet another example of doing whatever you please and then laughing up your sleeve as the council shows it's lack of backbone?[/p][/quote]Of course it is. Business owner decides to do whatever he pleases in what is supposed to be an ancient and now conserved street in Bradford. He gets challenged for it and digs his heels in. The other businesses of like minded 'I do what I want' mentality close ranks. The council back off for fear of upsetting the locals, just as like the police would if this was a criminal matter. Business owners get their own way and so it goes in Bradford. Freddy Elliot

3:35pm Wed 12 Feb 14

jr9814 says...

its not as if theres anything in bradford that is attractive where ever you go its a dump, i dont blame them to protect they property ,they work hard for it ,so take them down and let a low life take it away from them .
its not as if theres anything in bradford that is attractive where ever you go its a dump, i dont blame them to protect they property ,they work hard for it ,so take them down and let a low life take it away from them . jr9814

3:42pm Wed 12 Feb 14

collos25 says...

Ivegate was a dubious place in my younger days today its a tip of the first degree best avoided.
Ivegate was a dubious place in my younger days today its a tip of the first degree best avoided. collos25

3:48pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Cooperlane2 says...

Like usual the businesse want to break UK law and expect everyone else to kowtow to them. Certain types of shutter are legal, but cost more.
Either enforce the law or remove the conservation status - though hard to believe what is being conserved? Ye Olde Crossbow Shoppe?
I also find it really hard to believe how many phone shops make a genuine living in the city centre.
Like usual the businesse want to break UK law and expect everyone else to kowtow to them. Certain types of shutter are legal, but cost more. Either enforce the law or remove the conservation status - though hard to believe what is being conserved? Ye Olde Crossbow Shoppe? I also find it really hard to believe how many phone shops make a genuine living in the city centre. Cooperlane2

5:16pm Wed 12 Feb 14

oddshapedballs says...

Once again this lot flout the law
Once again this lot flout the law oddshapedballs

5:25pm Wed 12 Feb 14

genius1991 says...

Cooperlane2 wrote:
Like usual the businesse want to break UK law and expect everyone else to kowtow to them. Certain types of shutter are legal, but cost more.
Either enforce the law or remove the conservation status - though hard to believe what is being conserved? Ye Olde Crossbow Shoppe?
I also find it really hard to believe how many phone shops make a genuine living in the city centre.
They charge extortionate amounts on Chinese imports and use ebay/amazon to make the majority of their money. You'd be surprised at how many people will go into Bradford and pay over a tenner for one of those cheap imported chargers when they could grab a genuine one on ebay for a similar price.

In regards to the article, Ivegate a conservation area? This is the road where for the last 10 years the best it's offered is underground shisha bars and bouncers letting under 16 girls into the many tried and tested 'clubs'. Well played council, well played. Ensuring correct shutters are in place will make Ivegate a hallmark area.
[quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: Like usual the businesse want to break UK law and expect everyone else to kowtow to them. Certain types of shutter are legal, but cost more. Either enforce the law or remove the conservation status - though hard to believe what is being conserved? Ye Olde Crossbow Shoppe? I also find it really hard to believe how many phone shops make a genuine living in the city centre.[/p][/quote]They charge extortionate amounts on Chinese imports and use ebay/amazon to make the majority of their money. You'd be surprised at how many people will go into Bradford and pay over a tenner for one of those cheap imported chargers when they could grab a genuine one on ebay for a similar price. In regards to the article, Ivegate a conservation area? This is the road where for the last 10 years the best it's offered is underground shisha bars and bouncers letting under 16 girls into the many tried and tested 'clubs'. Well played council, well played. Ensuring correct shutters are in place will make Ivegate a hallmark area. genius1991

5:36pm Wed 12 Feb 14

angry bradfordian says...

justjustice wrote:
I think the answer is simple

1) Keep the shutters allow them to protect their business
2) Move shops to another location, plenty of empty shops around
3) Bradford council is to compensate the businesses if the shutter are removed for every future theft that occurs.
Why should the council compensate them for thefts?

If this street has planning laws that doesn't allow shutters then I would assume that the business owner's insurance would be based on the business having no shutters and would be covered by theft?
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: I think the answer is simple 1) Keep the shutters allow them to protect their business 2) Move shops to another location, plenty of empty shops around 3) Bradford council is to compensate the businesses if the shutter are removed for every future theft that occurs.[/p][/quote]Why should the council compensate them for thefts? If this street has planning laws that doesn't allow shutters then I would assume that the business owner's insurance would be based on the business having no shutters and would be covered by theft? angry bradfordian

9:45pm Wed 12 Feb 14

lazybeat says...

new rules by the council, you can't lock your doors anymore, what a joke. it's any surprise any business remains open with the lack of support the council offers people who want to work
new rules by the council, you can't lock your doors anymore, what a joke. it's any surprise any business remains open with the lack of support the council offers people who want to work lazybeat

11:52pm Wed 12 Feb 14

MyBradford says...

Do Bradford council want to empty more shops so they can expand their city park?
They should be thankful to these businesses for occupying these premises. Take a walk around town and nearly half of the shops are empty. Yes city park looks good for council workers to look out the windows but town center is dead.

there were few little areas with free parking and thanks to Bradford council now there are pay & display machines to encourage people come to Bradford center.

I believe most of council staff belong in Lynfield Mount Hospital.
Do Bradford council want to empty more shops so they can expand their city park? They should be thankful to these businesses for occupying these premises. Take a walk around town and nearly half of the shops are empty. Yes city park looks good for council workers to look out the windows but town center is dead. there were few little areas with free parking and thanks to Bradford council now there are pay & display machines to encourage people come to Bradford center. I believe most of council staff belong in Lynfield Mount Hospital. MyBradford

11:57pm Wed 12 Feb 14

peterspan says...

oddshapedballs wrote:
Once again this lot flout the law
Who are "this lot"?

Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are?

You absolute nincompoop!
[quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: Once again this lot flout the law[/p][/quote]Who are "this lot"? Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are? You absolute nincompoop! peterspan

11:16am Thu 13 Feb 14

oddshapedballs says...

peterspan wrote:
oddshapedballs wrote:
Once again this lot flout the law
Who are "this lot"?

Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are?

You absolute nincompoop!
Think my comment is more relevant as you are on minus 2 as opposed to my 7. Open your eyes and see where all the crime has emanated from.
[quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: Once again this lot flout the law[/p][/quote]Who are "this lot"? Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are? You absolute nincompoop![/p][/quote]Think my comment is more relevant as you are on minus 2 as opposed to my 7. Open your eyes and see where all the crime has emanated from. oddshapedballs

3:12pm Thu 13 Feb 14

mad matt says...

Inner shutters don't protect the most expensive item - the big plate glass window.
If Ivegate is so important, why is it allowed to get so scruffy anyway?
Inner shutters don't protect the most expensive item - the big plate glass window. If Ivegate is so important, why is it allowed to get so scruffy anyway? mad matt

8:35pm Thu 13 Feb 14

lazybeat says...

oddshapedballs wrote:
peterspan wrote:
oddshapedballs wrote:
Once again this lot flout the law
Who are "this lot"?

Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are?

You absolute nincompoop!
Think my comment is more relevant as you are on minus 2 as opposed to my 7. Open your eyes and see where all the crime has emanated from.
your just a bigoted hillbilly who lives on benefits and has never worked a real job in his life and no qualifications or intelligence to support his family. what would you know. sponge.
[quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: Once again this lot flout the law[/p][/quote]Who are "this lot"? Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are? You absolute nincompoop![/p][/quote]Think my comment is more relevant as you are on minus 2 as opposed to my 7. Open your eyes and see where all the crime has emanated from.[/p][/quote]your just a bigoted hillbilly who lives on benefits and has never worked a real job in his life and no qualifications or intelligence to support his family. what would you know. sponge. lazybeat

8:36pm Thu 13 Feb 14

lazybeat says...

oddshapedballs wrote:
peterspan wrote:
oddshapedballs wrote:
Once again this lot flout the law
Who are "this lot"?

Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are?

You absolute nincompoop!
Think my comment is more relevant as you are on minus 2 as opposed to my 7. Open your eyes and see where all the crime has emanated from.
your just a bigoted hillbilly who lives on benefits and has never worked a real job in his life and no qualifications or intelligence to support his family. what would you know. sponge.
[quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: Once again this lot flout the law[/p][/quote]Who are "this lot"? Care to take a look at the number of criminals convicted in Bradford crown and magistrate courts, and see what 'lot' they are? You absolute nincompoop![/p][/quote]Think my comment is more relevant as you are on minus 2 as opposed to my 7. Open your eyes and see where all the crime has emanated from.[/p][/quote]your just a bigoted hillbilly who lives on benefits and has never worked a real job in his life and no qualifications or intelligence to support his family. what would you know. sponge. lazybeat

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