Have your say on £29m CityConnect cycle route linking Bradford with Leeds

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: From left, Councillor James Lewis, Councillor Richard Lewis of Leeds City Council and Councillor Val Slater mark the start of the public consultation into the cycling 'superhighway' From left, Councillor James Lewis, Councillor Richard Lewis of Leeds City Council and Councillor Val Slater mark the start of the public consultation into the cycling 'superhighway'

People are being urged to have their say about a new £29 million cycling ‘superhighway’ coming through their neighbourhoods.

The 23km route will provide dedicated cycle paths linking Bradford with Leeds and has been given the name CityConnect.

The main route will start in Bradford city centre and will travel along Barkerend Road, Leeds Old Road and Leeds Road into Pudsey and then Leeds city centre, before ending in Seacroft.

The cycle path will also fork off along Dick Lane to the south and Gain Lane to the north of Leeds Road to serve communities there.

Residential areas alongside sections of the superhighway will be turned into 20mph zones with traffic calming measures.

A public consultation started this week concentrating on the stretch of the CityConnect route from Thornbury to Stanningley in Leeds, and people are being encouraged to get in touch with their views.

Public events will be held tomorrow from 7pm to 9pm at St James Church Hall, Galloway Lane, Pudsey; Wednesday, February 19, from 2pm to 6pm at Sunfield Health Centre, Pudsey; and Saturday, February 22, from 10am to 3pm at Pudsey Civic Hall. People can also e-mail cityconnect@wypte.gov.uk with their thoughts.

A consultation on the Bradford stretch is expected to begin next month.

Councillor Val Slater, Bradford Council’s executive member for housing, planning and transport, said: “CityConnect is an important scheme that will improve connectivity between our two cities and create new opportunities for businesses, jobs, housing and health.

“We will be carrying out consultation right along the route and I will certainly be ensuring that people in Bradford have their say when we start to consult on that stage at the start of March.”

The project won an £18 million grant from the Department for Transport last year, with extra cash coming from West Yorkshire transport authority Metro and other schemes.

There will also be a separate route along an upgraded Leeds and Liverpool Canal towpath.

Metro chairman Councillor James Lewis said: “CityConnect will transform cycling between and within our cities and by providing people with more safe and attractive travel options will help to reduce congestion on our roads with the subsequent economic benefit that brings.”

It is hoped the project will be completed by summer 2015.

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6:20am Tue 11 Feb 14

Albion. says...

"Metro chairman Councillor James Lewis said: “CityConnect will transform cycling between and within our cities and by providing people with more safe and attractive travel options will help to reduce congestion on our roads with the subsequent economic benefit that brings.”

So how many less cars would there have been on recent wet and windy mornings? Not exactly a newbies route is it?
"Metro chairman Councillor James Lewis said: “CityConnect will transform cycling between and within our cities and by providing people with more safe and attractive travel options will help to reduce congestion on our roads with the subsequent economic benefit that brings.” So how many less cars would there have been on recent wet and windy mornings? Not exactly a newbies route is it? Albion.
  • Score: 5

6:43am Tue 11 Feb 14

Cooperlane2 says...

£2m per mile..Jesus H Christ...
£2m per mile..Jesus H Christ... Cooperlane2
  • Score: 3

6:55am Tue 11 Feb 14

Tonybaloni says...

They should spend the money connecting everyone to the canal where even novices will consider riding to Leeds.
The current plan is stupid as most of Bradford would need to cycle a 3 in 1 hill to actually get on the route.
They should spend the money connecting everyone to the canal where even novices will consider riding to Leeds. The current plan is stupid as most of Bradford would need to cycle a 3 in 1 hill to actually get on the route. Tonybaloni
  • Score: 11

7:00am Tue 11 Feb 14

allannicho says...

Waste of money, Simple.
Waste of money, Simple. allannicho
  • Score: 6

8:48am Tue 11 Feb 14

G_Firth says...

Pure and simple misuse of public money on yet another vanity project.
That money would be better redirected to other more needy projects like new 1 and 2 bedroom homes, people with care needs or disabilities, youth projects, the list go on.
Really is time BMDC got some common sense in it.
Pure and simple misuse of public money on yet another vanity project. That money would be better redirected to other more needy projects like new 1 and 2 bedroom homes, people with care needs or disabilities, youth projects, the list go on. Really is time BMDC got some common sense in it. G_Firth
  • Score: 8

9:23am Tue 11 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Thanks for inviting me to have a say.
By the time I've cycled up the tunnel from Halifax "phew" free wheeled into town, what odds getting to the bottom in one piece? presume I will have to push through the City Centre, then tackle Church Bank and the big climb up to Dick Lane I will be blowing a bit, never mind onwards to Leeds " what time have I got to be home"
Stop wasting my money IDIOTS!
Thanks for inviting me to have a say. By the time I've cycled up the tunnel from Halifax "phew" free wheeled into town, what odds getting to the bottom in one piece? presume I will have to push through the City Centre, then tackle Church Bank and the big climb up to Dick Lane I will be blowing a bit, never mind onwards to Leeds " what time have I got to be home" Stop wasting my money IDIOTS! alive and awake
  • Score: 9

12:02pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Avro says...

allannicho wrote:
Waste of money, Simple.
Bump
[quote][p][bold]allannicho[/bold] wrote: Waste of money, Simple.[/p][/quote]Bump Avro
  • Score: 4

12:48pm Tue 11 Feb 14

dazbot says...

Tonybaloni wrote:
They should spend the money connecting everyone to the canal where even novices will consider riding to Leeds.
The current plan is stupid as most of Bradford would need to cycle a 3 in 1 hill to actually get on the route.
The canal path is being upgraded as well. Along with routes to the canal path from various locations.
[quote][p][bold]Tonybaloni[/bold] wrote: They should spend the money connecting everyone to the canal where even novices will consider riding to Leeds. The current plan is stupid as most of Bradford would need to cycle a 3 in 1 hill to actually get on the route.[/p][/quote]The canal path is being upgraded as well. Along with routes to the canal path from various locations. dazbot
  • Score: 3

1:00pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

dazbot wrote:
Tonybaloni wrote:
They should spend the money connecting everyone to the canal where even novices will consider riding to Leeds.
The current plan is stupid as most of Bradford would need to cycle a 3 in 1 hill to actually get on the route.
The canal path is being upgraded as well. Along with routes to the canal path from various locations.
Well let's leave it at that then.

Barkerend Road and Leeds Old Road, such a scenic route eh?

Who pays these people? Do they just dream this cr@p up after a whisky or two and then say ' I know, I'm off into work tomorrow to propose this'

As per usual a not fit for council with a crackpot idea....Anyone involved in this scheme should be made to cycle from Bradford town centre the full length of the route before it is opened, and I mean anyone, if they cannot do it then it should not be built.
[quote][p][bold]dazbot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tonybaloni[/bold] wrote: They should spend the money connecting everyone to the canal where even novices will consider riding to Leeds. The current plan is stupid as most of Bradford would need to cycle a 3 in 1 hill to actually get on the route.[/p][/quote]The canal path is being upgraded as well. Along with routes to the canal path from various locations.[/p][/quote]Well let's leave it at that then. Barkerend Road and Leeds Old Road, such a scenic route eh? Who pays these people? Do they just dream this cr@p up after a whisky or two and then say ' I know, I'm off into work tomorrow to propose this' As per usual a not fit for council with a crackpot idea....Anyone involved in this scheme should be made to cycle from Bradford town centre the full length of the route before it is opened, and I mean anyone, if they cannot do it then it should not be built. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 6

1:01pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Christ on a bike
Christ on a bike Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 0

1:07pm Tue 11 Feb 14

yorkshiredude says...

Bring it on
Bring it on yorkshiredude
  • Score: -3

1:46pm Tue 11 Feb 14

scratches head... says...

crucial services are being cut, wages are being slashed, people are losing their jobs because of funding cuts - but lets spend millions on something that probably less than 100 people will use in a year - not exactly catering to the masses is it.
Bradford council needs to get its priorities right ....
it should go to public vote and seeing as clearly they have money to throw away maybe the public should get an opportunity to decide on how to spend it
crucial services are being cut, wages are being slashed, people are losing their jobs because of funding cuts - but lets spend millions on something that probably less than 100 people will use in a year - not exactly catering to the masses is it. Bradford council needs to get its priorities right .... it should go to public vote and seeing as clearly they have money to throw away maybe the public should get an opportunity to decide on how to spend it scratches head...
  • Score: 5

1:51pm Tue 11 Feb 14

scratches head... says...

services are being reduced dramatically, wages are being slashed, redundancies are up and here we are seeing a total misuse of public money on something that probably less than 100 people a year will use this so its not exactly catering to the masses is it
another waste of money that could be used for funding jobs and services
well done Bradford Council - got your priorities right once again !!!
services are being reduced dramatically, wages are being slashed, redundancies are up and here we are seeing a total misuse of public money on something that probably less than 100 people a year will use this so its not exactly catering to the masses is it another waste of money that could be used for funding jobs and services well done Bradford Council - got your priorities right once again !!! scratches head...
  • Score: 4

4:26pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Muddy old lad says...

29 million pounds , you are clearly having a laugh, sadly with our public purse, this is a disgraceful waste of money. I am a keen cyclist so please don't think I'm a none bike friendly motorist, come on stop this madness
29 million pounds , you are clearly having a laugh, sadly with our public purse, this is a disgraceful waste of money. I am a keen cyclist so please don't think I'm a none bike friendly motorist, come on stop this madness Muddy old lad
  • Score: 4

4:50pm Tue 11 Feb 14

we'recitynotbradford says...

Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford !
Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford ! we'recitynotbradford
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Albion. says...

we'recitynotbradford wrote:
Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford !
Forward thinking and flat!
[quote][p][bold]we'recitynotbradford[/bold] wrote: Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford ![/p][/quote]Forward thinking and flat! Albion.
  • Score: 5

5:47pm Tue 11 Feb 14

we'recitynotbradford says...

Albion. wrote:
we'recitynotbradford wrote:
Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford !
Forward thinking and flat!
If you can't manage the hills you need to get cycling :) I agree, the hills make it more challenging than the cities I listed but I've managed to cycle regularly from Baildon to Shelf without a problem and I'm in my 50s. The issue I face is intimidation from SOME drivers (some through ignorance of the rules of the road and some through poor design of the roads that put drivers and bikes into conflict) and safe, segregated cycle routes has to be a benefit to all users.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we'recitynotbradford[/bold] wrote: Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford ![/p][/quote]Forward thinking and flat![/p][/quote]If you can't manage the hills you need to get cycling :) I agree, the hills make it more challenging than the cities I listed but I've managed to cycle regularly from Baildon to Shelf without a problem and I'm in my 50s. The issue I face is intimidation from SOME drivers (some through ignorance of the rules of the road and some through poor design of the roads that put drivers and bikes into conflict) and safe, segregated cycle routes has to be a benefit to all users. we'recitynotbradford
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Albion. says...

we'recitynotbradford wrote:
Albion. wrote:
we'recitynotbradford wrote:
Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford !
Forward thinking and flat!
If you can't manage the hills you need to get cycling :) I agree, the hills make it more challenging than the cities I listed but I've managed to cycle regularly from Baildon to Shelf without a problem and I'm in my 50s. The issue I face is intimidation from SOME drivers (some through ignorance of the rules of the road and some through poor design of the roads that put drivers and bikes into conflict) and safe, segregated cycle routes has to be a benefit to all users.
I think it's more than just a question of fitness, in places like York cycling is a way of life. But here it isn't (because of the hills) except mainly for many who have more of a sporting than commuting interest. I'm in favour of more cycle routes, but the one in this report seems pointless to me and is too expensive in the current financial climate.
[quote][p][bold]we'recitynotbradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we'recitynotbradford[/bold] wrote: Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford ![/p][/quote]Forward thinking and flat![/p][/quote]If you can't manage the hills you need to get cycling :) I agree, the hills make it more challenging than the cities I listed but I've managed to cycle regularly from Baildon to Shelf without a problem and I'm in my 50s. The issue I face is intimidation from SOME drivers (some through ignorance of the rules of the road and some through poor design of the roads that put drivers and bikes into conflict) and safe, segregated cycle routes has to be a benefit to all users.[/p][/quote]I think it's more than just a question of fitness, in places like York cycling is a way of life. But here it isn't (because of the hills) except mainly for many who have more of a sporting than commuting interest. I'm in favour of more cycle routes, but the one in this report seems pointless to me and is too expensive in the current financial climate. Albion.
  • Score: 4

6:08pm Tue 11 Feb 14

we'recitynotbradford says...

Albion. wrote:
we'recitynotbradford wrote:
Albion. wrote:
we'recitynotbradford wrote:
Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford !
Forward thinking and flat!
If you can't manage the hills you need to get cycling :) I agree, the hills make it more challenging than the cities I listed but I've managed to cycle regularly from Baildon to Shelf without a problem and I'm in my 50s. The issue I face is intimidation from SOME drivers (some through ignorance of the rules of the road and some through poor design of the roads that put drivers and bikes into conflict) and safe, segregated cycle routes has to be a benefit to all users.
I think it's more than just a question of fitness, in places like York cycling is a way of life. But here it isn't (because of the hills) except mainly for many who have more of a sporting than commuting interest. I'm in favour of more cycle routes, but the one in this report seems pointless to me and is too expensive in the current financial climate.
My point exactly - its part of the culture. My experience in Holland is that it is part of a culture where politicians employ joined up and long-term thinking where they invest in infrastructure that supports many different types of commuter. Maybe, just maybe this is us learning from what I see is more forward thinking and inclusive society. My exasperation with Bradfordians is that we always seem to criticise and never say 'hey, that's agreat idea'.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we'recitynotbradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we'recitynotbradford[/bold] wrote: Bradford's crying out for investment - well here is investment. Why are Bradfordians so, so, so negative and quite frankly backward. Have any of you seen what happens when you invest in cycle routes in forward thinking cities such as York, Cambridge, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc etc . Jeez Bradford ![/p][/quote]Forward thinking and flat![/p][/quote]If you can't manage the hills you need to get cycling :) I agree, the hills make it more challenging than the cities I listed but I've managed to cycle regularly from Baildon to Shelf without a problem and I'm in my 50s. The issue I face is intimidation from SOME drivers (some through ignorance of the rules of the road and some through poor design of the roads that put drivers and bikes into conflict) and safe, segregated cycle routes has to be a benefit to all users.[/p][/quote]I think it's more than just a question of fitness, in places like York cycling is a way of life. But here it isn't (because of the hills) except mainly for many who have more of a sporting than commuting interest. I'm in favour of more cycle routes, but the one in this report seems pointless to me and is too expensive in the current financial climate.[/p][/quote]My point exactly - its part of the culture. My experience in Holland is that it is part of a culture where politicians employ joined up and long-term thinking where they invest in infrastructure that supports many different types of commuter. Maybe, just maybe this is us learning from what I see is more forward thinking and inclusive society. My exasperation with Bradfordians is that we always seem to criticise and never say 'hey, that's agreat idea'. we'recitynotbradford
  • Score: 4

6:53pm Tue 11 Feb 14

steve10 says...

What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme
What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme steve10
  • Score: -5

7:10pm Tue 11 Feb 14

bonoforpm says...

steve10 wrote:
What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme
Hey , that's a great idea
[quote][p][bold]steve10[/bold] wrote: What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme[/p][/quote]Hey , that's a great idea bonoforpm
  • Score: -2

7:22pm Tue 11 Feb 14

bonoforpm says...

Another crackpot vanity project from a Council that says we don't have 2 ha'pennies to rub together so let's put up the Council Tax as much as we can get away with.

When are this Council going to get a reality check, a cycleway to Leeds may be a fine and dandy idea when you have lots of money to spare but cannot possibly be justified at the moment.
It remains to be seen whether it will ever be justified given the terrain around Bradford and the tiny number of users that it would attract.

Ask yourself, would you want to ride SLOWLY through Barkerend !
Another crackpot vanity project from a Council that says we don't have 2 ha'pennies to rub together so let's put up the Council Tax as much as we can get away with. When are this Council going to get a reality check, a cycleway to Leeds may be a fine and dandy idea when you have lots of money to spare but cannot possibly be justified at the moment. It remains to be seen whether it will ever be justified given the terrain around Bradford and the tiny number of users that it would attract. Ask yourself, would you want to ride SLOWLY through Barkerend ! bonoforpm
  • Score: 1

8:02pm Tue 11 Feb 14

I can see clearly now... says...

steve10 wrote:
What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme
Yawn, here we go again. Let's get our facts straight shall we? There is no such thing as "Road Tax" which was abolished in 1937 and replaced by Vehicle Excise Duty which is based on the vehicle C02 emissions. Cyclists don't emit any C02. Also, cyclists are statistically more likely to own a car than non-cyclists so if anything, they should be given a re-bate for taking the conscious decision NOT to use their cars. Don't believe me? View this and educate yourself on the subject: http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/magazine-23694
438
[quote][p][bold]steve10[/bold] wrote: What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme[/p][/quote]Yawn, here we go again. Let's get our facts straight shall we? There is no such thing as "Road Tax" which was abolished in 1937 and replaced by Vehicle Excise Duty which is based on the vehicle C02 emissions. Cyclists don't emit any C02. Also, cyclists are statistically more likely to own a car than non-cyclists so if anything, they should be given a re-bate for taking the conscious decision NOT to use their cars. Don't believe me? View this and educate yourself on the subject: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/magazine-23694 438 I can see clearly now...
  • Score: 3

10:34pm Tue 11 Feb 14

DissidentX says...

Highlights the callous attitude of the government and local authorities towards the burgeoning unemployment and homelessness tearing apart communities and society.

I suggest this money be spent to tackle homelessness and creating some jobs or skills training programmes for people.

Also council tax will be increased few quid soon so I suggest instead of increasing council tax to supposedly hire few more cops they use these funds for that purpose.

Times are hard for everyone and with rampaging inflation, no wage increases and utility and commodity prices spiking , the last thing we should put up with is a pointless snail road next to a highway.
Highlights the callous attitude of the government and local authorities towards the burgeoning unemployment and homelessness tearing apart communities and society. I suggest this money be spent to tackle homelessness and creating some jobs or skills training programmes for people. Also council tax will be increased few quid soon so I suggest instead of increasing council tax to supposedly hire few more cops they use these funds for that purpose. Times are hard for everyone and with rampaging inflation, no wage increases and utility and commodity prices spiking , the last thing we should put up with is a pointless snail road next to a highway. DissidentX
  • Score: -3

10:36pm Tue 11 Feb 14

DissidentX says...

steve10 wrote:
What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme
lmao I like your sense of humor.
[quote][p][bold]steve10[/bold] wrote: What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme[/p][/quote]lmao I like your sense of humor. DissidentX
  • Score: -2

12:51am Wed 12 Feb 14

Atbman says...

bonoforpm wrote:
steve10 wrote: What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme
Hey , that's a great idea
Ah yes, the usual knee jerk reaction. Just what would be involved, I wonder.
1. Set up duplicate DVLA because there are approx. 12 million bikes in thecountry
2. Register all bikes (except bikes with less than 20" size wheels (for kids) using their serial number (if it's not rusted away or unreadable becaue of damage
3. Set up and monitor SORN system for all bikes just like motor vehicles
4. Re-introduce tax disc set-up (about to be cancelled for cars
5, Make sure that any such disc is properly attached in accordance with regulations so that the position is appropriate for (deep breath) BMXs, road bikes, tourers, racing bikes, motbs (rigid, front suspension, full suspension, recumbents, trikes, tandems, etc. (double cost for tandems since they carry two people, because there isn't a consistent place on them to fix the disc holder
6. Include regulations for number plates. Would need to be or the same size as existing ones so that ANPR cameras in police cars can catch untaxed riders. Of course, you would have to write appropriate regulations (see tax disc above). Just where would you put such plates? Seat pin? Seat stay? Cross Bar? Handlebars? Cross bar out because police car ANPR cameras point straight ahead. If you atach it to the seat stay, that means there will be 3 edges free, so you would have to involve H&SE in writing regulations to make sure that no-one gets cut in the event of an accident (sound of paliamentary draughstmen rubbing their hand in glee).
6a. And, of course, the police and the courts would just lurve to fill up those empty hours when they're doing nothing to catch and prosecute untaxed cyclists, wouldn't they?
7. Then there's the cost, excluding £multi-million computer system (ready at 3 times original budget and 5 years late) which would be pretty much the same as for motor vehicles, say £5 per bike per year.
8. Since bikes do no measurable damge to road surface, say £5 on top, raising, say, 6m bikes x £5 = £30m (drop in the ocean). So let's make it admin plus £20 (x 6 = £120m (slightly larger drop in the ocean)
9. Oh, but someone driving a certain £50,000 Americanelectric sports car pays nowt (Zero CO2), while my rusty old bike csts £25 p.a. Oh, and if you're a keen cyclist with 5 bikes, that's £125 per year - may as well buy the electric sports car and clog up the road.
Please suggest this to your local MP - she/he would love to introduce it as a private member's bill
[quote][p][bold]bonoforpm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steve10[/bold] wrote: What about ROAD TAX for cyclist ? its about time they started paying for all these scheme[/p][/quote]Hey , that's a great idea[/p][/quote]Ah yes, the usual knee jerk reaction. Just what would be involved, I wonder. 1. Set up duplicate DVLA because there are approx. 12 million bikes in thecountry 2. Register all bikes (except bikes with less than 20" size wheels (for kids) using their serial number (if it's not rusted away or unreadable becaue of damage 3. Set up and monitor SORN system for all bikes just like motor vehicles 4. Re-introduce tax disc set-up (about to be cancelled for cars 5, Make sure that any such disc is properly attached in accordance with regulations so that the position is appropriate for (deep breath) BMXs, road bikes, tourers, racing bikes, motbs (rigid, front suspension, full suspension, recumbents, trikes, tandems, etc. (double cost for tandems since they carry two people, because there isn't a consistent place on them to fix the disc holder 6. Include regulations for number plates. Would need to be or the same size as existing ones so that ANPR cameras in police cars can catch untaxed riders. Of course, you would have to write appropriate regulations (see tax disc above). Just where would you put such plates? Seat pin? Seat stay? Cross Bar? Handlebars? Cross bar out because police car ANPR cameras point straight ahead. If you atach it to the seat stay, that means there will be 3 edges free, so you would have to involve H&SE in writing regulations to make sure that no-one gets cut in the event of an accident (sound of paliamentary draughstmen rubbing their hand in glee). 6a. And, of course, the police and the courts would just lurve to fill up those empty hours when they're doing nothing to catch and prosecute untaxed cyclists, wouldn't they? 7. Then there's the cost, excluding £multi-million computer system (ready at 3 times original budget and 5 years late) which would be pretty much the same as for motor vehicles, say £5 per bike per year. 8. Since bikes do no measurable damge to road surface, say £5 on top, raising, say, 6m bikes x £5 = £30m (drop in the ocean). So let's make it admin plus £20 (x 6 = £120m (slightly larger drop in the ocean) 9. Oh, but someone driving a certain £50,000 Americanelectric sports car pays nowt (Zero CO2), while my rusty old bike csts £25 p.a. Oh, and if you're a keen cyclist with 5 bikes, that's £125 per year - may as well buy the electric sports car and clog up the road. Please suggest this to your local MP - she/he would love to introduce it as a private member's bill Atbman
  • Score: 2

1:48am Wed 12 Feb 14

Raj2121 says...

What a waste of money. What a joke
What a waste of money. What a joke Raj2121
  • Score: -1

12:07pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Qtunnel says...

Congratulations Bradford!! The CityConnect scheme is a brave step into a future that we all badly need - i.e. more cyclists and fewer cars on our roads. Good for everyone who breathes the air along the route, good for children and adults of all ages. All intelligent cities are working towards sustainable, healthy transport networks. Cycling on our Bradford hills will make us all fitter - and for those that need them, electric bikes are becoming cheaper. Go cycle Bradford! Yippee!
Congratulations Bradford!! The CityConnect scheme is a brave step into a future that we all badly need - i.e. more cyclists and fewer cars on our roads. Good for everyone who breathes the air along the route, good for children and adults of all ages. All intelligent cities are working towards sustainable, healthy transport networks. Cycling on our Bradford hills will make us all fitter - and for those that need them, electric bikes are becoming cheaper. Go cycle Bradford! Yippee! Qtunnel
  • Score: 3

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