New data shows district is second worst in West Yorkshire for excess weight

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: More than two-thirds of adults in Bradford are now classed as overweight or obese More than two-thirds of adults in Bradford are now classed as overweight or obese

More than two-thirds of adults in Bradford are now classed as overweight or obese, latest figures have revealed.

The new excess weight data, published yesterday by Public Health England, showed that 67.7 per cent of people across the district over the age of 16 had a body mass index of 25 or more, the second highest figure in West Yorkshire, and sixth highest across Yorkshire and the Humber, which had a regional average of 65.4 per cent.

The findings, taken from Sport England’s Active People Survey, saw the Bradford district come out 3.9 per cent above the national average of 63.8 per cent.

Julia Burrows, consultant in Public Health for Bradford Council, said: “These new figures confirm that there is a real problem with the number of adults classed as overweight, not only in Bradford, but across the whole of the country.

“With two in every three adults overweight or obese, we need individuals to make the decision to improve their or their family’s own lifestyle.

“We understand it’s not easy to change your eating habits but little changes can make a big difference. Being more active, cutting out the fats and sugars and eating more fruit and vegetables can all improve your health.”

As reported in the Telegraph & Argus on Saturday, Bradford has been branded one of the worst places in the country for couch potatoes, with a Ukactive study revealing that 38 per cent of residents across the district are physically inactive, the fourth worst rate in the country.

Councillor Andrew Thornton, Bradford Council’s executive member for environment and sport, said that public health and inactivity was something the Council was “constantly aware” of, adding that it was working to ensure that people kept active to “address disparities with other parts of the UK”.

Yesterday’s figures add to findings from Bradford’s Public Health England profile, published in September 2013, which showed that 26 per cent of adults across the district were classed as obese, indicating a body mass index of 30 or more.

Results from the National Child Measurement Progr-amme, released in December last year, also found that over a third of the district’s 11-year-olds (35 per cent) were found to be overweight or obese, the highest figure in West Yorkshire.

Dr Stephen Morton, of Public Health England, said: “There is no silver bullet to reducing obesity. It is an issue that requires action at national, local, family and individual level. “This new data will enable local councils to monitor progress towards the national ambition of achieving a downward trend in excess weight by 2020.”

Health problems associated with being overweight or obese are said to cost the NHS more than £5 billion each year. Adults carrying excess weight have an increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes, heart disease and certain cancers, and can suffer from self-esteem and mental health issues.

For help in achieving a healthier weight, call (01274) 435387 to find out if you are eligible for support.

e-mail: rob.lowson@telegraphandargus.co.uk

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7:06am Wed 5 Feb 14

Albion. says...

There have been so many versions of this story here and in the rest of the media, that everyone must be fully aware of the situation by now... ..Will those who obviously need to, bother though?
There have been so many versions of this story here and in the rest of the media, that everyone must be fully aware of the situation by now... ..Will those who obviously need to, bother though? Albion.

8:09am Wed 5 Feb 14

thatsnotmyname says...

Who said you could use that photo of me.

Seriously, I think depression and low self esteem is responsible for a lot of this.
Who said you could use that photo of me. Seriously, I think depression and low self esteem is responsible for a lot of this. thatsnotmyname

8:57am Wed 5 Feb 14

allannicho says...

Too many Chappatis?
Too many Chappatis? allannicho

9:04am Wed 5 Feb 14

Cooperlane2 says...

That pic almost put me off my bacon sandwich
That pic almost put me off my bacon sandwich Cooperlane2

9:08am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

thatsnotmyname wrote:
Who said you could use that photo of me. Seriously, I think depression and low self esteem is responsible for a lot of this.
I think it's a combination of greed and lack of self control. I don't buy the lack of education argument either. You cannot fail to notice that eating loads of fat, suggary foods make you fat. It's constantly in the news. On anyone night of the week there is at least one programme on TV about fat people/dieting so surely everyone knows how to avoid becoming obese?
[quote][p][bold]thatsnotmyname[/bold] wrote: Who said you could use that photo of me. Seriously, I think depression and low self esteem is responsible for a lot of this.[/p][/quote]I think it's a combination of greed and lack of self control. I don't buy the lack of education argument either. You cannot fail to notice that eating loads of fat, suggary foods make you fat. It's constantly in the news. On anyone night of the week there is at least one programme on TV about fat people/dieting so surely everyone knows how to avoid becoming obese? Farsley Bantam

9:09am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Cooperlane2 wrote:
That pic almost put me off my bacon sandwich
At least you've still got yours. The person in the picture stole mine.
[quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: That pic almost put me off my bacon sandwich[/p][/quote]At least you've still got yours. The person in the picture stole mine. Farsley Bantam

9:15am Wed 5 Feb 14

Cooperlane2 says...

I bet there's someone looking at that pic thinking..mmmm, I would...
I bet there's someone looking at that pic thinking..mmmm, I would... Cooperlane2

9:15am Wed 5 Feb 14

Avro says...

A diet of constant takeaway food is the problem
A diet of constant takeaway food is the problem Avro

9:31am Wed 5 Feb 14

Eddiethepom says...

Maybe the figures are not as clear cut as they appear. For example, I am about 5ft9 and just under 13st. I am not fat, train regurlarly, take part in 10k's and half marathons and, according to my BMI, I am obese.

Granted, a lot of the people in this study will be genuinely obese, however, there will be a fair few, not only in Bradford, who are classed as obese but are not. If you work along the BMI of 25 most body builders will be clinically obsese due to their weight.

I do fancy a bacon butty now though!!!!
Maybe the figures are not as clear cut as they appear. For example, I am about 5ft9 and just under 13st. I am not fat, train regurlarly, take part in 10k's and half marathons and, according to my BMI, I am obese. Granted, a lot of the people in this study will be genuinely obese, however, there will be a fair few, not only in Bradford, who are classed as obese but are not. If you work along the BMI of 25 most body builders will be clinically obsese due to their weight. I do fancy a bacon butty now though!!!! Eddiethepom

9:36am Wed 5 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Cooperlane2 wrote:
I bet there's someone looking at that pic thinking..mmmm, I would...
Every holes a goal Cooperlane.
Not keen on her only having the one arm though!
[quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: I bet there's someone looking at that pic thinking..mmmm, I would...[/p][/quote]Every holes a goal Cooperlane. Not keen on her only having the one arm though! Freddy Elliot

9:38am Wed 5 Feb 14

wobbley-bob says...

Hmmm, I would.

Slap the sides & ride in on the ripples..... :-D
Hmmm, I would. Slap the sides & ride in on the ripples..... :-D wobbley-bob

9:40am Wed 5 Feb 14

wobbley-bob says...

Freddy Elliot wrote:
Cooperlane2 wrote:
I bet there's someone looking at that pic thinking..mmmm, I would...
Every holes a goal Cooperlane.
Not keen on her only having the one arm though!
She's probably eaten the other one.......
[quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: I bet there's someone looking at that pic thinking..mmmm, I would...[/p][/quote]Every holes a goal Cooperlane. Not keen on her only having the one arm though![/p][/quote]She's probably eaten the other one....... wobbley-bob

10:26am Wed 5 Feb 14

MontyLeMar says...

Eddiethepom wrote:
Maybe the figures are not as clear cut as they appear. For example, I am about 5ft9 and just under 13st. I am not fat, train regurlarly, take part in 10k's and half marathons and, according to my BMI, I am obese.

Granted, a lot of the people in this study will be genuinely obese, however, there will be a fair few, not only in Bradford, who are classed as obese but are not. If you work along the BMI of 25 most body builders will be clinically obsese due to their weight.

I do fancy a bacon butty now though!!!!
I agree, according to my BMI I am overweight at 5ft 8 and 171lbs and a 34" waist. I say you must take these BMI figures with a pinch of salt. One person commenting in The Guardian yesterday said that a BMI of 27 used to be the limit then they dropped it. Not sure if the medicos really know what they are doing apart from annoying everyone and trying to justify their research grants.
[quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: Maybe the figures are not as clear cut as they appear. For example, I am about 5ft9 and just under 13st. I am not fat, train regurlarly, take part in 10k's and half marathons and, according to my BMI, I am obese. Granted, a lot of the people in this study will be genuinely obese, however, there will be a fair few, not only in Bradford, who are classed as obese but are not. If you work along the BMI of 25 most body builders will be clinically obsese due to their weight. I do fancy a bacon butty now though!!!![/p][/quote]I agree, according to my BMI I am overweight at 5ft 8 and 171lbs and a 34" waist. I say you must take these BMI figures with a pinch of salt. One person commenting in The Guardian yesterday said that a BMI of 27 used to be the limit then they dropped it. Not sure if the medicos really know what they are doing apart from annoying everyone and trying to justify their research grants. MontyLeMar

10:32am Wed 5 Feb 14

Bacon Bantam says...

Seems these food banks are being abused.
Seems these food banks are being abused. Bacon Bantam

10:54am Wed 5 Feb 14

Bacon Bantam says...

Swimming is a good way to exercise, but you try going swimming at one of your local pools. The times of the swims are rediculous.

Bingley pool has 2 adult lane swimming sessions outside of working hours, lasting 1 hour each. So 2 hours in the entire week a working person (those who actually pay to use the facilities) can only visit the pool twice, maximum a week.

Shipley pool is similar, Keighley is slightly better but shares the same days as Bingley and Shipley aswell as an extra couple of sessions.
Swimming is a good way to exercise, but you try going swimming at one of your local pools. The times of the swims are rediculous. Bingley pool has 2 adult lane swimming sessions outside of working hours, lasting 1 hour each. So 2 hours in the entire week a working person (those who actually pay to use the facilities) can only visit the pool twice, maximum a week. Shipley pool is similar, Keighley is slightly better but shares the same days as Bingley and Shipley aswell as an extra couple of sessions. Bacon Bantam

12:02pm Wed 5 Feb 14

MontyLeMar says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
Swimming is a good way to exercise, but you try going swimming at one of your local pools. The times of the swims are rediculous.

Bingley pool has 2 adult lane swimming sessions outside of working hours, lasting 1 hour each. So 2 hours in the entire week a working person (those who actually pay to use the facilities) can only visit the pool twice, maximum a week.

Shipley pool is similar, Keighley is slightly better but shares the same days as Bingley and Shipley aswell as an extra couple of sessions.
I agree, more fitness facilities should be available to workers, especially those sat behind desks and glued to computer screens all day. An unexpected consequence of Maggie's services economy - fat, desk-bound keyboard operators. Not good for your health.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: Swimming is a good way to exercise, but you try going swimming at one of your local pools. The times of the swims are rediculous. Bingley pool has 2 adult lane swimming sessions outside of working hours, lasting 1 hour each. So 2 hours in the entire week a working person (those who actually pay to use the facilities) can only visit the pool twice, maximum a week. Shipley pool is similar, Keighley is slightly better but shares the same days as Bingley and Shipley aswell as an extra couple of sessions.[/p][/quote]I agree, more fitness facilities should be available to workers, especially those sat behind desks and glued to computer screens all day. An unexpected consequence of Maggie's services economy - fat, desk-bound keyboard operators. Not good for your health. MontyLeMar

12:33pm Wed 5 Feb 14

iamaboy says...

For me it's about time, energy and mood. I'm obese, both medically and to look at. I know I am, and it disgusts me every day to look at myself. I'm embarassed and I hate it.

I get up every day at 6am, to get ready for work and leave at 7am. Get to work on public transport for about 8am. Work a very sedentry role until around 5:45pm where I set off home by public transport. My home commute usually takes longer and I arrive home sometime after 7pm. Considering for 8 hours sleep I'd have to be asleep by 10pm, that gives me 3 hours to prepare for work the next morning, do appropriate housework, prepare and eat a meal, keep on top of the money troubles we all experience, shower and get ready for bed, and finally go to bed to fall asleep.

Where can I fit in to that a daily exercise schedule? Where do I get the energy to? Carting around 9st of excess weight all the time is pretty tiring! You should try it How do I feel at the end of a day when I've sometimes got a spare half hour? When I haven't had a moment all week to actually relax and enjoy life? Do I want to go to the gym where people look at you and ridicule you? No, I don't. I want to hide away from the world and never come out.
For me it's about time, energy and mood. I'm obese, both medically and to look at. I know I am, and it disgusts me every day to look at myself. I'm embarassed and I hate it. I get up every day at 6am, to get ready for work and leave at 7am. Get to work on public transport for about 8am. Work a very sedentry role until around 5:45pm where I set off home by public transport. My home commute usually takes longer and I arrive home sometime after 7pm. Considering for 8 hours sleep I'd have to be asleep by 10pm, that gives me 3 hours to prepare for work the next morning, do appropriate housework, prepare and eat a meal, keep on top of the money troubles we all experience, shower and get ready for bed, and finally go to bed to fall asleep. Where can I fit in to that a daily exercise schedule? Where do I get the energy to? Carting around 9st of excess weight all the time is pretty tiring! You should try it How do I feel at the end of a day when I've sometimes got a spare half hour? When I haven't had a moment all week to actually relax and enjoy life? Do I want to go to the gym where people look at you and ridicule you? No, I don't. I want to hide away from the world and never come out. iamaboy

12:54pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

iamaboy wrote:
For me it's about time, energy and mood. I'm obese, both medically and to look at. I know I am, and it disgusts me every day to look at myself. I'm embarassed and I hate it. I get up every day at 6am, to get ready for work and leave at 7am. Get to work on public transport for about 8am. Work a very sedentry role until around 5:45pm where I set off home by public transport. My home commute usually takes longer and I arrive home sometime after 7pm. Considering for 8 hours sleep I'd have to be asleep by 10pm, that gives me 3 hours to prepare for work the next morning, do appropriate housework, prepare and eat a meal, keep on top of the money troubles we all experience, shower and get ready for bed, and finally go to bed to fall asleep. Where can I fit in to that a daily exercise schedule? Where do I get the energy to? Carting around 9st of excess weight all the time is pretty tiring! You should try it How do I feel at the end of a day when I've sometimes got a spare half hour? When I haven't had a moment all week to actually relax and enjoy life? Do I want to go to the gym where people look at you and ridicule you? No, I don't. I want to hide away from the world and never come out.
I don't wish to sound cruel but if you are carrying an extra 9st then you are clearly eating far too much.
I appreciate that you have a busy life and a sedentary job which allows little time for excercise but an extra 9st can only have come about from massively over eating.
It is clearly making you unhappy so I would suggest that you eat better food and less of it. Don't bother with any fad diets (they give short term gains and are not maintainable long term) just eat plenty of fruit and vegetables and don't buy crap when you go to the supermarket. Simple
[quote][p][bold]iamaboy[/bold] wrote: For me it's about time, energy and mood. I'm obese, both medically and to look at. I know I am, and it disgusts me every day to look at myself. I'm embarassed and I hate it. I get up every day at 6am, to get ready for work and leave at 7am. Get to work on public transport for about 8am. Work a very sedentry role until around 5:45pm where I set off home by public transport. My home commute usually takes longer and I arrive home sometime after 7pm. Considering for 8 hours sleep I'd have to be asleep by 10pm, that gives me 3 hours to prepare for work the next morning, do appropriate housework, prepare and eat a meal, keep on top of the money troubles we all experience, shower and get ready for bed, and finally go to bed to fall asleep. Where can I fit in to that a daily exercise schedule? Where do I get the energy to? Carting around 9st of excess weight all the time is pretty tiring! You should try it How do I feel at the end of a day when I've sometimes got a spare half hour? When I haven't had a moment all week to actually relax and enjoy life? Do I want to go to the gym where people look at you and ridicule you? No, I don't. I want to hide away from the world and never come out.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to sound cruel but if you are carrying an extra 9st then you are clearly eating far too much. I appreciate that you have a busy life and a sedentary job which allows little time for excercise but an extra 9st can only have come about from massively over eating. It is clearly making you unhappy so I would suggest that you eat better food and less of it. Don't bother with any fad diets (they give short term gains and are not maintainable long term) just eat plenty of fruit and vegetables and don't buy crap when you go to the supermarket. Simple Farsley Bantam

12:58pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
iamaboy wrote:
For me it's about time, energy and mood. I'm obese, both medically and to look at. I know I am, and it disgusts me every day to look at myself. I'm embarassed and I hate it. I get up every day at 6am, to get ready for work and leave at 7am. Get to work on public transport for about 8am. Work a very sedentry role until around 5:45pm where I set off home by public transport. My home commute usually takes longer and I arrive home sometime after 7pm. Considering for 8 hours sleep I'd have to be asleep by 10pm, that gives me 3 hours to prepare for work the next morning, do appropriate housework, prepare and eat a meal, keep on top of the money troubles we all experience, shower and get ready for bed, and finally go to bed to fall asleep. Where can I fit in to that a daily exercise schedule? Where do I get the energy to? Carting around 9st of excess weight all the time is pretty tiring! You should try it How do I feel at the end of a day when I've sometimes got a spare half hour? When I haven't had a moment all week to actually relax and enjoy life? Do I want to go to the gym where people look at you and ridicule you? No, I don't. I want to hide away from the world and never come out.
I don't wish to sound cruel but if you are carrying an extra 9st then you are clearly eating far too much.
I appreciate that you have a busy life and a sedentary job which allows little time for excercise but an extra 9st can only have come about from massively over eating.
It is clearly making you unhappy so I would suggest that you eat better food and less of it. Don't bother with any fad diets (they give short term gains and are not maintainable long term) just eat plenty of fruit and vegetables and don't buy crap when you go to the supermarket. Simple
Exactly

Try eating less throughout the day and if you don't get time to exercise in an evening or morning then do as lots of people do at my work and go to the gym on your lunch hour
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iamaboy[/bold] wrote: For me it's about time, energy and mood. I'm obese, both medically and to look at. I know I am, and it disgusts me every day to look at myself. I'm embarassed and I hate it. I get up every day at 6am, to get ready for work and leave at 7am. Get to work on public transport for about 8am. Work a very sedentry role until around 5:45pm where I set off home by public transport. My home commute usually takes longer and I arrive home sometime after 7pm. Considering for 8 hours sleep I'd have to be asleep by 10pm, that gives me 3 hours to prepare for work the next morning, do appropriate housework, prepare and eat a meal, keep on top of the money troubles we all experience, shower and get ready for bed, and finally go to bed to fall asleep. Where can I fit in to that a daily exercise schedule? Where do I get the energy to? Carting around 9st of excess weight all the time is pretty tiring! You should try it How do I feel at the end of a day when I've sometimes got a spare half hour? When I haven't had a moment all week to actually relax and enjoy life? Do I want to go to the gym where people look at you and ridicule you? No, I don't. I want to hide away from the world and never come out.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to sound cruel but if you are carrying an extra 9st then you are clearly eating far too much. I appreciate that you have a busy life and a sedentary job which allows little time for excercise but an extra 9st can only have come about from massively over eating. It is clearly making you unhappy so I would suggest that you eat better food and less of it. Don't bother with any fad diets (they give short term gains and are not maintainable long term) just eat plenty of fruit and vegetables and don't buy crap when you go to the supermarket. Simple[/p][/quote]Exactly Try eating less throughout the day and if you don't get time to exercise in an evening or morning then do as lots of people do at my work and go to the gym on your lunch hour Andy2010

1:44pm Wed 5 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Don't knock fatties, just think of all the VAT. they are paying.
It's all about what goes in the cake hole, and lack of exercise, always has been, eat less and twiddle your thumbs and you will loose weight. simples
Don't knock fatties, just think of all the VAT. they are paying. It's all about what goes in the cake hole, and lack of exercise, always has been, eat less and twiddle your thumbs and you will loose weight. simples alive and awake

1:52pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bazzathetyke says...

You can buy 6 pieces of fried chicken for £3...Go figure!
You can buy 6 pieces of fried chicken for £3...Go figure! bazzathetyke

1:53pm Wed 5 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.
I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more. RollandSmoke

2:00pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Some of the earlier comments on here have had me 'belly' chuckling. Just read a few out to my colleagues. Set of wags and ne'er do wells.

Seriously, the comment from iamaboy does hold some weight(ok, ok) but the comments below also counter that. I have a few colleagues here on the larger side who do just as suggested. One even walks round and round the car park as the area we work in doesn't allow for much meandering into the district.

I'm lucky in the fact I played and coached football for over 35 years but also have tried to eat a fat and sugar free diet as much as possible, allowing for the odd takeaway or biscuit with a cuppa.

In the main, this doesn't include iamaboy, it is pure laziness which is the root of obesity, too lazy to exercise or too lazy to cook a decent fat/carb free meal.
Some of the earlier comments on here have had me 'belly' chuckling. Just read a few out to my colleagues. Set of wags and ne'er do wells. Seriously, the comment from iamaboy does hold some weight(ok, ok) but the comments below also counter that. I have a few colleagues here on the larger side who do just as suggested. One even walks round and round the car park as the area we work in doesn't allow for much meandering into the district. I'm lucky in the fact I played and coached football for over 35 years but also have tried to eat a fat and sugar free diet as much as possible, allowing for the odd takeaway or biscuit with a cuppa. In the main, this doesn't include iamaboy, it is pure laziness which is the root of obesity, too lazy to exercise or too lazy to cook a decent fat/carb free meal. Prisoner Cell Block A

2:16pm Wed 5 Feb 14

MontyLeMar says...

bazzathetyke wrote:
You can buy 6 pieces of fried chicken for £3...Go figure!
Yep, and endless programs on telly instructing you on how to cook delicious food. At least we've seen the last of Nigela for a few months, though there's plenty of others to take her place.
[quote][p][bold]bazzathetyke[/bold] wrote: You can buy 6 pieces of fried chicken for £3...Go figure![/p][/quote]Yep, and endless programs on telly instructing you on how to cook delicious food. At least we've seen the last of Nigela for a few months, though there's plenty of others to take her place. MontyLeMar

2:24pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Tonybaloni says...

The usual right wing bigotry above. The figures are flawed they were taken when Eric Pickles was on the council.
I have an official bmi of 40 and am 6ft 4" tall and cycle a minimum 16 miles per day on average.
The bmi is a stupid measure that was set up for whimpish shandy drinking southern stick insects. Not northern warriors like us.
The usual right wing bigotry above. The figures are flawed they were taken when Eric Pickles was on the council. I have an official bmi of 40 and am 6ft 4" tall and cycle a minimum 16 miles per day on average. The bmi is a stupid measure that was set up for whimpish shandy drinking southern stick insects. Not northern warriors like us. Tonybaloni

2:25pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.
Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.[/p][/quote]Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you? Farsley Bantam

2:41pm Wed 5 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.
Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?
They're keeping the economy afloat. I would have thought you would have approved?
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.[/p][/quote]Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?[/p][/quote]They're keeping the economy afloat. I would have thought you would have approved? RollandSmoke

3:35pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.
Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?
They're keeping the economy afloat. I would have thought you would have approved?
Keeping themselves afloat with their spare tyres and built in arm bands
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.[/p][/quote]Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?[/p][/quote]They're keeping the economy afloat. I would have thought you would have approved?[/p][/quote]Keeping themselves afloat with their spare tyres and built in arm bands Prisoner Cell Block A

4:07pm Wed 5 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.
Never watch adverts myself, I always turn them off/over, that's on the rare occasions I watch ITV. It makes me laugh how you think you are the only one that can see the obvious. I bet if you have any friends (doubt it) they sit looking at you with their mouths open, wondering what the hell you are on about now, but nod obediently before asking you to help them fill in their latest claim form.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.[/p][/quote]Never watch adverts myself, I always turn them off/over, that's on the rare occasions I watch ITV. It makes me laugh how you think you are the only one that can see the obvious. I bet if you have any friends (doubt it) they sit looking at you with their mouths open, wondering what the hell you are on about now, but nod obediently before asking you to help them fill in their latest claim form. alive and awake

4:18pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.
Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?
I'm shocked as well

I expected the Tories to be blamed somehow
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I've never had a problem with weiging too much and could probably benefit from at least another stone. As regards those who are, perhaps this should be celebrateed as a measure of the success of the consumerism that is rammed down the throats of the couch potatos along with their latest purchases. We are trained to desire much more than we need as we sit glued to the TV trying to convince ourselves we're being entertained. Just relax and let the ad men play with your mind a little. Don't question it, don't rationalise just take in the subliminals and the carefully crafted sales pitch and desire. Bradfords growth figures are testiment to the fact that the hypnotic trance that the magical ad men have you under is stronger than your own desire for health. You need only meet your needs but if your role in life is merely a consumer you'll always want more.[/p][/quote]Jesus. I thought 'The Man' would be to blame for this. Nothing to do with greedy ba$tards shovelling too much crap down their necks? Ofcourse not, that would involve an element of personal responsibility and your not keen on that are you?[/p][/quote]I'm shocked as well I expected the Tories to be blamed somehow Andy2010

4:51pm Wed 5 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused. RollandSmoke

5:08pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Smell the coffee says...

I eat what i want when i want and i'm still not overweight.. Every Friday night I drink six cans of Stella and eat a Keema Vindaloo. By Monday and fifty visits to the loo, I've usually lost 3 stone.
I eat what i want when i want and i'm still not overweight.. Every Friday night I drink six cans of Stella and eat a Keema Vindaloo. By Monday and fifty visits to the loo, I've usually lost 3 stone. Smell the coffee

5:08pm Wed 5 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you?
Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect. alive and awake

5:13pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you?
Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy

You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat.

Its oh so simple

Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight.

If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.[/p][/quote]Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid. Andy2010

5:47pm Wed 5 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.
There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.[/p][/quote]Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.[/p][/quote]There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places. RollandSmoke

5:49pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.
There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.
So you agree

they are stupid as well
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.[/p][/quote]Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.[/p][/quote]There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.[/p][/quote]So you agree they are stupid as well Andy2010

6:40pm Wed 5 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.
There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.
So you agree they are stupid as well
Being stupid and being exploited for your stupidity are too different things.
Of course it's all to do with your endocannabaniod system but I'm sure everyone knows that.
http://www.livescien
ce.com/14890-marijua
na-chemicals-fatty-f
oods.html
http://abcnews.go.co
m/Health/story?id=11
7518
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.[/p][/quote]Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.[/p][/quote]There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.[/p][/quote]So you agree they are stupid as well[/p][/quote]Being stupid and being exploited for your stupidity are too different things. Of course it's all to do with your endocannabaniod system but I'm sure everyone knows that. http://www.livescien ce.com/14890-marijua na-chemicals-fatty-f oods.html http://abcnews.go.co m/Health/story?id=11 7518 RollandSmoke

8:37pm Wed 5 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.
There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.
So you agree they are stupid as well
Being stupid and being exploited for your stupidity are too different things.
Of course it's all to do with your endocannabaniod system but I'm sure everyone knows that.
http://www.livescien

ce.com/14890-marijua

na-chemicals-fatty-f

oods.html
http://abcnews.go.co

m/Health/story?id=11

7518
Strong gear tonight RS eh! you are spouting even bigger rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.[/p][/quote]Exactly and what is wrong with personal responsibiltiy You cant blame advertising for getting fat....anyone that does it stupid as well as fat. Its oh so simple Take in more calories than you get rid of = put on weight. If someone cant figure that out then they really are stupid.[/p][/quote]There's nothing wrong with personal responsibility but all too often they will opt for the convenience of handing that responsibility for putting a healthy meal on their table to one of the corporations or small businesses plying for their trade. There is an element of trust that the healthiest ingredients will be used. This trust is being betrayed and sugar levels are high in the most unlikely of places.[/p][/quote]So you agree they are stupid as well[/p][/quote]Being stupid and being exploited for your stupidity are too different things. Of course it's all to do with your endocannabaniod system but I'm sure everyone knows that. http://www.livescien ce.com/14890-marijua na-chemicals-fatty-f oods.html http://abcnews.go.co m/Health/story?id=11 7518[/p][/quote]Strong gear tonight RS eh! you are spouting even bigger rubbish. alive and awake

9:21pm Wed 5 Feb 14

shipsaltwellcent says...

Sadly a lot of people/institutions are to blame for a lack of education starting from food companies marketing foods that are positively addictive, through the supermarkets promoting it to the governement who provide little in the way of real education regarding diet. If you can accept this and decide to do something about it then the problem is not just weight loss, most diets where you restrict calories will lead to loss of body fat-good- and lean muscle-bad. A sensible approach is what's needed. Good quality carbs, protein and 5/6 meals/snacks per day. Plus drink plenty of water- 2 to 2.5 liters per day. This is the advice we give to all our clients.
Sadly a lot of people/institutions are to blame for a lack of education starting from food companies marketing foods that are positively addictive, through the supermarkets promoting it to the governement who provide little in the way of real education regarding diet. If you can accept this and decide to do something about it then the problem is not just weight loss, most diets where you restrict calories will lead to loss of body fat-good- and lean muscle-bad. A sensible approach is what's needed. Good quality carbs, protein and 5/6 meals/snacks per day. Plus drink plenty of water- 2 to 2.5 liters per day. This is the advice we give to all our clients. shipsaltwellcent

1:49pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.
Would it be a better world if everybody was like you?
Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.
It was the Tories that began the 'dumbing down' process, embraced further on by Labour but it was under the blue watch it began.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: On the plus side it does give all the bigots another outlet for their venom as they seek to stigmatise and demonise the individual for somehow not being exactly the same as them and therefore inferior and deserving of criticism. They just can't get enough of it. Well played T&A for serving up yet another helping. Those with weight issues may be making stupid choices and secombing to temptation but we have a capitalist system that relies heavily on cohercing the foolish or gulible into making choices that are not necessarily in your best interests. The sugar pushers know full well that 8 teaspoons of sugar in a can of pop aint going to be healthy. They share as much guilt as the tobacco industry for the health problems caused.[/p][/quote]Would it be a better world if everybody was like you? Its all about education, and the Labour government ruined our education system, and dumbed down everything they could, and look what we were left with. Thankfully one of the bravest men I have ever come across in politics will sort out the education system. Mr. Gove is outstanding and the future of our childrens education is safe in his hands. It's a pity some of the lazier left wing teachers won't get behind him, but what do you expect.[/p][/quote]It was the Tories that began the 'dumbing down' process, embraced further on by Labour but it was under the blue watch it began. Prisoner Cell Block A

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