All change at Odsal as new Bradford Bulls owners are finally confirmed

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Omar Khan Omar Khan

The Bulls have today announced a change of ownership after OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration - leaving the club facing the prospect of a points deduction.

The Bulls were docked six Super League points after they entered administration in June 2012 and now face a tense wait to discover their fate.

It is understood that a decision on possible sanctions will be made by the RFL next week.

The move into administration comes about after no agreement could be reached to transfer the ownership of the club from majority shareholder Omar Khan into the hands of the current regime.

David Wilson, of Leeds-based DFW Associates, was appointed administrator of the club’s former holding company and the club has been transferred into the hands of  Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

On behalf of DFW Associates, Mr Wilson said: “Upon the sanction of the Rugby Football League, we will have concluded the sale of the club to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

“It had not proved possible to resolve the ownership of the company with the previous owner and, as a result, the company’s financial position had become untenable.”

The new company is to operate under the directorship of Andrew Calvert, Mark Moore, Ian Watt and Robbie Hunter-Paul.

All players, employees and assets have been transferred to the new company, with the club's Super League licence also looking to certain to be retained.

The new regime say they intend to discuss the club's future with the RFL and seek to avoid a points deduction, with the Bulls saying "the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors."

Although technical issues are likely to arise due to the changeover, the Bulls have said they will "continue to operate as normal".

Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd say season tickets bought by supporters remain unaffected by the change of ownership.

A spokesperson for the Bulls added: “Although a resolution wasn’t found after all avenues were exhausted, we feel the new company will give the club’s supporters much-needed clarity in terms of who is running, directing and owning their club."

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12:31pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Ballboy2012 says...

Many thanks to Omar for saving the club originally but looks like he has lost this game of poker.
Many thanks to Omar for saving the club originally but looks like he has lost this game of poker. Ballboy2012

12:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Mr Capp says...

With promotion and relegation plus the nonsense of manchester its to be hoped we don't get a points deduction.
With promotion and relegation plus the nonsense of manchester its to be hoped we don't get a points deduction. Mr Capp

12:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate.
RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.
So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate. RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here. Thee Voice of Reason

12:39pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford? Andy2010

12:41pm Fri 31 Jan 14

tyker2 says...

RFL cannot be happy and should not accept the new club into it's ranks. Financial security means nothing at present.

Do not Sky owe OK Bulls a significant sum of money. Surely the new company cannot expect to receive any of those funds.

There must be a 10/15 point deduction and that leaves the future of this newly named club in jeopardy in a very few months time
RFL cannot be happy and should not accept the new club into it's ranks. Financial security means nothing at present. Do not Sky owe OK Bulls a significant sum of money. Surely the new company cannot expect to receive any of those funds. There must be a 10/15 point deduction and that leaves the future of this newly named club in jeopardy in a very few months time tyker2

12:42pm Fri 31 Jan 14

I can see clearly now... says...

What a circus!
What a circus! I can see clearly now...

12:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Eddiethepom says...

Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque.

On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration??

I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question. Eddiethepom

12:46pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Parz says...

Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
I would presume that this will go into the pot with anything else that OK Bulls Limited owed out. Rumour was Omar gave a personal guarentee for it, but as with everything else about us at the moment, it depends who you ask and what you read.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]I would presume that this will go into the pot with anything else that OK Bulls Limited owed out. Rumour was Omar gave a personal guarentee for it, but as with everything else about us at the moment, it depends who you ask and what you read. Parz

12:49pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Parz says...

Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).
[quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think). Parz

12:52pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Eddiethepom says...

Parz wrote:
Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).
Good point, maybe so.

One thing is for sure, the next couple of months are going to be interesting!!!
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).[/p][/quote]Good point, maybe so. One thing is for sure, the next couple of months are going to be interesting!!! Eddiethepom

12:59pm Fri 31 Jan 14

StevieLad says...

"the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors"

Going into administration is akin to punching the creditors in the gut and running off to a safe distance while they're winded. Work with creditors my wrinkled sock.

I'd be very surprised if the RFL didn't come down like a ton of bricks. La goutte qui fait déborder le vase if you will
"the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors" Going into administration is akin to punching the creditors in the gut and running off to a safe distance while they're winded. Work with creditors my wrinkled sock. I'd be very surprised if the RFL didn't come down like a ton of bricks. La goutte qui fait déborder le vase if you will StevieLad

1:00pm Fri 31 Jan 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

you can't do this without approaching the RFL first; the SL licence is in the name of OK Bulls and the grounds lease agreement is in the name of OK Bulls as well.

this follows on from the wind up order from the HMRC that has been served on OK Bulls.

This is so very wrong on every level and I doubt that the other SL Clubs in the same finacial situation will be happy with this and nor will the RFL!
you can't do this without approaching the RFL first; the SL licence is in the name of OK Bulls and the grounds lease agreement is in the name of OK Bulls as well. this follows on from the wind up order from the HMRC that has been served on OK Bulls. This is so very wrong on every level and I doubt that the other SL Clubs in the same finacial situation will be happy with this and nor will the RFL! fedupwiththeBS

1:01pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Where is Viking's we're in the money song when you need it?
Where is Viking's we're in the money song when you need it? Thee Voice of Reason

1:02pm Fri 31 Jan 14

BierleyBoy says...

Ballboy2012 wrote:
Many thanks to Omar for saving the club originally but looks like he has lost this game of poker.
he didn't save the club. He bought it very cheaply and within a year, having taken in huge amounts of money, left it in a far worse state than he found it.

The whole thing is tied in to the Labour Party in Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]Ballboy2012[/bold] wrote: Many thanks to Omar for saving the club originally but looks like he has lost this game of poker.[/p][/quote]he didn't save the club. He bought it very cheaply and within a year, having taken in huge amounts of money, left it in a far worse state than he found it. The whole thing is tied in to the Labour Party in Bradford. BierleyBoy

1:02pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Rambo says...

Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
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[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]http://makeameme.org /media/created/aaaaa annnndddd-its-gone.j pg Rambo

1:05pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque.

On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration??

I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
Yes they do seeing as the council we pay each year decided to bail them out.

I'd rather the council backed more sustainable businesses than the jokers in charge of the bulls whoever that is this month.

That 200k could go a long way to keeping open some council run services
[quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]Yes they do seeing as the council we pay each year decided to bail them out. I'd rather the council backed more sustainable businesses than the jokers in charge of the bulls whoever that is this month. That 200k could go a long way to keeping open some council run services Andy2010

1:06pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

Rambo wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
http://makeameme.org

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Lol ...about right

No doubt invested in some curry house somewhere
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]http://makeameme.org /media/created/aaaaa annnndddd-its-gone.j pg[/p][/quote]Lol ...about right No doubt invested in some curry house somewhere Andy2010

1:06pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

31st January 2014

BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration.

OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points.




31st January 2014

BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration.

OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points.




31st January 2014

BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration.

OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points.
SORRY GUYS!
31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS! Sheffieldbull

1:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Hudzilla says...

Although there may be trouble ahead, im just chuffed that Khant doesnt have any more cards to play.

Good riddance.
Although there may be trouble ahead, im just chuffed that Khant doesnt have any more cards to play. Good riddance. Hudzilla

1:08pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Hudzilla says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS!
Great news if true, where is this from?
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS![/p][/quote]Great news if true, where is this from? Hudzilla

1:09pm Fri 31 Jan 14

BierleyBoy says...

Eddiethepom wrote:
Parz wrote:
Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).
Good point, maybe so.

One thing is for sure, the next couple of months are going to be interesting!!!
Khan is guarantor for the loan. Bradford Council won't call it in because he's too close to the Labour Party and Sutcliffe needs him on board for his election campaign.

The political corruption behind Flowers and now tis sickening. The whole thing needs investigating by an outside government department.

The RFL agreed to let Khan take over. He put Whitcut in control and sanctioned all the decisions he made.

The RFL can't punish the new board for what they were part of through Khan.

Best thing the people of Bradford can do is keep Greenwood out locally next time, vote Green out of Wibsey and vote Sutcliffe out of Bradford South. The rotten dead wood has to go.
[quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).[/p][/quote]Good point, maybe so. One thing is for sure, the next couple of months are going to be interesting!!![/p][/quote]Khan is guarantor for the loan. Bradford Council won't call it in because he's too close to the Labour Party and Sutcliffe needs him on board for his election campaign. The political corruption behind Flowers and now tis sickening. The whole thing needs investigating by an outside government department. The RFL agreed to let Khan take over. He put Whitcut in control and sanctioned all the decisions he made. The RFL can't punish the new board for what they were part of through Khan. Best thing the people of Bradford can do is keep Greenwood out locally next time, vote Green out of Wibsey and vote Sutcliffe out of Bradford South. The rotten dead wood has to go. BierleyBoy

1:09pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Where is Viking's we're in the money song when you need it?
To$$er!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Where is Viking's we're in the money song when you need it?[/p][/quote]To$$er! Sheffieldbull

1:10pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.
13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on. Thee Voice of Reason

1:11pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Hudzilla says...

I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also.

COME ON YOU BULLS
I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also. COME ON YOU BULLS Hudzilla

1:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Avro says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate.
RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.
What a state of shambolic affairs!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate. RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.[/p][/quote]What a state of shambolic affairs! Avro

1:13pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Where is Viking's we're in the money song when you need it?
To$$er!
Oh bless.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Where is Viking's we're in the money song when you need it?[/p][/quote]To$$er![/p][/quote]Oh bless. Thee Voice of Reason

1:15pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Hudzilla wrote:
I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also.

COME ON YOU BULLS
It would hold more water if the RFL said the same. Until they say it I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

Anyway as all debts are off will the people removed from their jobs be reinstated?
[quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also. COME ON YOU BULLS[/p][/quote]It would hold more water if the RFL said the same. Until they say it I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Anyway as all debts are off will the people removed from their jobs be reinstated? Thee Voice of Reason

1:15pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Hudzilla.. Bulls website!
Great news for Bulls fans... shocking for some of the Prats on here LOL!
Hudzilla.. Bulls website! Great news for Bulls fans... shocking for some of the Prats on here LOL! Sheffieldbull

1:16pm Fri 31 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

Hudzilla wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS!
Great news if true, where is this from?
That statement has since been removed. You should not need telling why.
[quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS![/p][/quote]Great news if true, where is this from?[/p][/quote]That statement has since been removed. You should not need telling why. flashdonut

1:16pm Fri 31 Jan 14

dan223344 says...

On behalf of DFW Associates, Mr Wilson said: “Upon the sanction of the Rugby Football League, we will have concluded the sale of the club to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Looks like RFL approved it so doubt any point deductions and new owners have played by the rules so looks god
On behalf of DFW Associates, Mr Wilson said: “Upon the sanction of the Rugby Football League, we will have concluded the sale of the club to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Looks like RFL approved it so doubt any point deductions and new owners have played by the rules so looks god dan223344

1:18pm Fri 31 Jan 14

BCFC1234 says...

No points deduction all you doom merchants will be pleased to know,see the Bulls website. And more good news about Bull builder, lets hope all Bulls fans support them.
Oh and as a council tax payer of many years the Bulls are welcome to my share.
No points deduction all you doom merchants will be pleased to know,see the Bulls website. And more good news about Bull builder, lets hope all Bulls fans support them. Oh and as a council tax payer of many years the Bulls are welcome to my share. BCFC1234

1:19pm Fri 31 Jan 14

JAtkinson says...

The usual set of Bradfodians taking joy from another potentially bad story about Bradford. Sad.
The usual set of Bradfodians taking joy from another potentially bad story about Bradford. Sad. JAtkinson

1:23pm Fri 31 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

Hudzilla wrote:
I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also.

COME ON YOU BULLS
Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.
[quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also. COME ON YOU BULLS[/p][/quote]Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people. flashdonut

1:29pm Fri 31 Jan 14

gordon ramsay says...

sadly mark moore is not the person who decides if we have a points deduction or not!!!

as such such statements are purely guess work at this stage

as a general principle.... clubs in any sports simply can't run up debts then write them off penatly free by changing the clubs trading name on a techincality!!!! what precident does that set.

sadly, i fear a points deduction. in the year of relegation too.... its just one sick joke of a circus
sadly mark moore is not the person who decides if we have a points deduction or not!!! as such such statements are purely guess work at this stage as a general principle.... clubs in any sports simply can't run up debts then write them off penatly free by changing the clubs trading name on a techincality!!!! what precident does that set. sadly, i fear a points deduction. in the year of relegation too.... its just one sick joke of a circus gordon ramsay

1:29pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Mr Capp says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.
Why should they worry. They have had our sky money!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: 13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.[/p][/quote]Why should they worry. They have had our sky money! Mr Capp

1:30pm Fri 31 Jan 14

The Man From the Pru says...

TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL.

Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings.

So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans.

Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know.

Now back under your rock, shoo.
TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo. The Man From the Pru

1:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

Mr Capp wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: 13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.
Why should they worry. They have had our sky money!
Because £50k each is nothing compared to £1.2m written off, twice.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: 13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.[/p][/quote]Why should they worry. They have had our sky money![/p][/quote]Because £50k each is nothing compared to £1.2m written off, twice. Bacon Bantam

1:34pm Fri 31 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL.

Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings.

So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans.

Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know.

Now back under your rock, shoo.
Finally a person with sense that can work it out.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.[/p][/quote]Finally a person with sense that can work it out. flashdonut

1:37pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL.

Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings.

So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans.

Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know.

Now back under your rock, shoo.
Why am I wrong....£200k is owed to the people of Bradford which the council could use to offer services to more people than attend Odsal every week.

Why is it ok for the council to grant a loan to the Bulls but wont help other struggling businesses in Bradford?

They state and I agree they are "talking to" creditors but if you had the slightest bit of knowledge about insolvency you will understand that as the OK Bulls have zero assets and cash Bradford Council will be lucky to see 1p paid back of that loan.

I wish the Bulls the best but as a council tax payer I strongly refuse to simply accept this £200k should be written off
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.[/p][/quote]Why am I wrong....£200k is owed to the people of Bradford which the council could use to offer services to more people than attend Odsal every week. Why is it ok for the council to grant a loan to the Bulls but wont help other struggling businesses in Bradford? They state and I agree they are "talking to" creditors but if you had the slightest bit of knowledge about insolvency you will understand that as the OK Bulls have zero assets and cash Bradford Council will be lucky to see 1p paid back of that loan. I wish the Bulls the best but as a council tax payer I strongly refuse to simply accept this £200k should be written off Andy2010

1:45pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
If you're that bothered I'll give you the 40p or whatever it cost you myself! Nob head!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]If you're that bothered I'll give you the 40p or whatever it cost you myself! Nob head! Bone_idle18

1:52pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
If you're that bothered I'll give you the 40p or whatever it cost you myself! Nob head!
What a constructive and though provoking comment

Thanks for that...p4ick
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]If you're that bothered I'll give you the 40p or whatever it cost you myself! Nob head![/p][/quote]What a constructive and though provoking comment Thanks for that...p4ick Andy2010

1:53pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

Mr Khan was the guarantor of the council loan. Hopefully the council will do the right thing and go chase him up for the money now the company in which the loan was being repaid from will no longer be making any repayments.

Why should the taxpayer see their money disappear because a labour council wanted to help out a labour MP helping a labour funder run a Club?

The person or people who authorised this loan, heads should role.
Mr Khan was the guarantor of the council loan. Hopefully the council will do the right thing and go chase him up for the money now the company in which the loan was being repaid from will no longer be making any repayments. Why should the taxpayer see their money disappear because a labour council wanted to help out a labour MP helping a labour funder run a Club? The person or people who authorised this loan, heads should role. Bacon Bantam

1:55pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS!
Why has that been updated to this?

31st January 2014
BRADFORD BULLS officials have moved to clarify the club's position regarding a potential points deduction, after it was announced that its former operating company has this morning been placed into administration.

As officials have today confirmed – since the Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd's earlier takeover – the new board of directors have stated their intentions to work with current creditors.

And, as a result, discussions with the Rugby Football League are to now begin as the Bulls bid to avoid a points deduction ahead of the new campaign.

CEO Robbie Hunter-Paul said: "We are confident we will take a good case to the governing body, which will allow us to compete on a level playing field come the start of the season.

"Obviously, we are aware that the RFL must pay due diligence with situations like ours arise.

"I would like to thank them and all other important stakeholders for their continued support."

Seems someone jumped the gun.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points. SORRY GUYS![/p][/quote]Why has that been updated to this? 31st January 2014 BRADFORD BULLS officials have moved to clarify the club's position regarding a potential points deduction, after it was announced that its former operating company has this morning been placed into administration. As officials have today confirmed – since the Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd's earlier takeover – the new board of directors have stated their intentions to work with current creditors. And, as a result, discussions with the Rugby Football League are to now begin as the Bulls bid to avoid a points deduction ahead of the new campaign. CEO Robbie Hunter-Paul said: "We are confident we will take a good case to the governing body, which will allow us to compete on a level playing field come the start of the season. "Obviously, we are aware that the RFL must pay due diligence with situations like ours arise. "I would like to thank them and all other important stakeholders for their continued support." Seems someone jumped the gun. Bacon Bantam

1:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

portugalbull says...

Been waiting for this for sometime. Shows new guys have some idea of what their doing, where OK just playing them and RFL along. Wipes out OK debts but by the look of it the other creditors will be honored thus hopefully we can escape a points deduction. In effect a takeover similar to Salford.
COYB,s
Been waiting for this for sometime. Shows new guys have some idea of what their doing, where OK just playing them and RFL along. Wipes out OK debts but by the look of it the other creditors will be honored thus hopefully we can escape a points deduction. In effect a takeover similar to Salford. COYB,s portugalbull

1:59pm Fri 31 Jan 14

BierleyBoy says...

flashdonut wrote:
Hudzilla wrote:
I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also.

COME ON YOU BULLS
Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.
All bases covered back in early January on the sale. Once it wasn'r going ahead, RFL pulled plug on stadium lease lease and membership and shifted to newco.

Was never going to be a points deduction anyway, club has just jumped gun before all excuses from RFL were limed up. Other clubs must also have agreed to this.
[quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also. COME ON YOU BULLS[/p][/quote]Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.[/p][/quote]All bases covered back in early January on the sale. Once it wasn'r going ahead, RFL pulled plug on stadium lease lease and membership and shifted to newco. Was never going to be a points deduction anyway, club has just jumped gun before all excuses from RFL were limed up. Other clubs must also have agreed to this. BierleyBoy

2:02pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.
Got to love people like this. TVOR flagged all this up long before any of you lot. He told you the ship was going to smash right into an iceberg but you all waved away the lifeboats.

Who really cares if comments get voted up or down. 2 idiots can out vote a genius, doesn't make the idiots right.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.[/p][/quote]Got to love people like this. TVOR flagged all this up long before any of you lot. He told you the ship was going to smash right into an iceberg but you all waved away the lifeboats. Who really cares if comments get voted up or down. 2 idiots can out vote a genius, doesn't make the idiots right. Bacon Bantam

2:13pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
flashdonut wrote:
Hudzilla wrote:
I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also.

COME ON YOU BULLS
Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.
All bases covered back in early January on the sale. Once it wasn'r going ahead, RFL pulled plug on stadium lease lease and membership and shifted to newco.

Was never going to be a points deduction anyway, club has just jumped gun before all excuses from RFL were limed up. Other clubs must also have agreed to this.
Thanks bacon but this is just viking with his new logon.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also. COME ON YOU BULLS[/p][/quote]Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.[/p][/quote]All bases covered back in early January on the sale. Once it wasn'r going ahead, RFL pulled plug on stadium lease lease and membership and shifted to newco. Was never going to be a points deduction anyway, club has just jumped gun before all excuses from RFL were limed up. Other clubs must also have agreed to this.[/p][/quote]Thanks bacon but this is just viking with his new logon. Thee Voice of Reason

2:14pm Fri 31 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
The Man From the Pru wrote:
TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.
Got to love people like this. TVOR flagged all this up long before any of you lot. He told you the ship was going to smash right into an iceberg but you all waved away the lifeboats.

Who really cares if comments get voted up or down. 2 idiots can out vote a genius, doesn't make the idiots right.
I do agree. TVOR is slated because he doesnt praise all things Bulls. I remember viking's song. It was silly. Yet TVOR is worse for pointing it ouit. Why? Vinking could argue with his own shadow. His way or no way.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.[/p][/quote]Got to love people like this. TVOR flagged all this up long before any of you lot. He told you the ship was going to smash right into an iceberg but you all waved away the lifeboats. Who really cares if comments get voted up or down. 2 idiots can out vote a genius, doesn't make the idiots right.[/p][/quote]I do agree. TVOR is slated because he doesnt praise all things Bulls. I remember viking's song. It was silly. Yet TVOR is worse for pointing it ouit. Why? Vinking could argue with his own shadow. His way or no way. flashdonut

2:17pm Fri 31 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
BierleyBoy wrote:
flashdonut wrote:
Hudzilla wrote:
I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also.

COME ON YOU BULLS
Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.
All bases covered back in early January on the sale. Once it wasn'r going ahead, RFL pulled plug on stadium lease lease and membership and shifted to newco.

Was never going to be a points deduction anyway, club has just jumped gun before all excuses from RFL were limed up. Other clubs must also have agreed to this.
Thanks bacon but this is just viking with his new logon.
????? Very much doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hudzilla[/bold] wrote: I have in fact seen the statement on the Bulls web site that there is to be NO point deduction in 2014. It seems the stalling tactics by Khan has no only annoyed the fans, but the RFL also. COME ON YOU BULLS[/p][/quote]Can none of you work this out? This is the plan. Regardless of what is said in the media. Omar owes a shed load. Needs to sell the Bulls. Can not give it away. But club is worthless. So nobody will pay. So OK, Moore & Co and the RFL sit down. Come up with a plan. Moore and co don't out OK or complain about him. They prove they can take over. OK then goes bust (wiping his debts), Moore and co. step up. Withing 15 minutes. Convenient? No. Pre-planned. OK's business is bust, so the debts will vanish. The reson the club issued a statement saying no points reduction is because this was already agreed. The reason it has been taken down is because the RFL do not want anybody to know it was pre-planned. Hardly good business! Wake up people.[/p][/quote]All bases covered back in early January on the sale. Once it wasn'r going ahead, RFL pulled plug on stadium lease lease and membership and shifted to newco. Was never going to be a points deduction anyway, club has just jumped gun before all excuses from RFL were limed up. Other clubs must also have agreed to this.[/p][/quote]Thanks bacon but this is just viking with his new logon.[/p][/quote]????? Very much doubt it. flashdonut

2:23pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bullsone03 says...

They are only in discussions with the rfl and will make a bid to hopefully avoid points deduction coyb
They are only in discussions with the rfl and will make a bid to hopefully avoid points deduction coyb bullsone03

2:26pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

You know why all this has come to a head now don't you?

HMRC were winding up OK Bulls so the RFL had to step in and take the golden share and protect their competition.

Look here for yesterdays winding up orders.

http://www.london-ga
zette.co.uk/issues/6
0768/pages/1981
You know why all this has come to a head now don't you? HMRC were winding up OK Bulls so the RFL had to step in and take the golden share and protect their competition. Look here for yesterdays winding up orders. http://www.london-ga zette.co.uk/issues/6 0768/pages/1981 Bacon Bantam

2:31pm Fri 31 Jan 14

theoutsider says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
Eddiethepom wrote:
Parz wrote:
Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).
Good point, maybe so.

One thing is for sure, the next couple of months are going to be interesting!!!
Khan is guarantor for the loan. Bradford Council won't call it in because he's too close to the Labour Party and Sutcliffe needs him on board for his election campaign.

The political corruption behind Flowers and now tis sickening. The whole thing needs investigating by an outside government department.

The RFL agreed to let Khan take over. He put Whitcut in control and sanctioned all the decisions he made.

The RFL can't punish the new board for what they were part of through Khan.

Best thing the people of Bradford can do is keep Greenwood out locally next time, vote Green out of Wibsey and vote Sutcliffe out of Bradford South. The rotten dead wood has to go.
Wheres Sutcliffe in this 'tardy tale' Bierly Boy you got it 100% right here abart Carncil and why they're not calling it in. Well they dont have to ..we'll call in and call that lot OUT ..Lie-bore = rotten to the core.

Anyways stuff the egg chasing - Speedway & Stocks anyone - ROBBIE YOU PICKED UP THAT PHONE YET? are you still around up there come to that.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]I would guess we may get the same 4 point one that Wakefield got when they had thier original administration in the off season (which was before the season before last, I think).[/p][/quote]Good point, maybe so. One thing is for sure, the next couple of months are going to be interesting!!![/p][/quote]Khan is guarantor for the loan. Bradford Council won't call it in because he's too close to the Labour Party and Sutcliffe needs him on board for his election campaign. The political corruption behind Flowers and now tis sickening. The whole thing needs investigating by an outside government department. The RFL agreed to let Khan take over. He put Whitcut in control and sanctioned all the decisions he made. The RFL can't punish the new board for what they were part of through Khan. Best thing the people of Bradford can do is keep Greenwood out locally next time, vote Green out of Wibsey and vote Sutcliffe out of Bradford South. The rotten dead wood has to go.[/p][/quote]Wheres Sutcliffe in this 'tardy tale' Bierly Boy you got it 100% right here abart Carncil and why they're not calling it in. Well they dont have to ..we'll call in and call that lot OUT ..Lie-bore = rotten to the core. Anyways stuff the egg chasing - Speedway & Stocks anyone - ROBBIE YOU PICKED UP THAT PHONE YET? are you still around up there come to that. theoutsider

2:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bully4us says...

What is all of this silly arguing about. It was obvious that these guys were going to start a new business if they couldn't agree with OK. The RFL have been working with them very closely so are involved fully. This has been "plan B" for a while and I am amazed anyone is surprised at this. If I had been them it would have been plan A as long as the creditors didn't lose out.
Business is business as people say and you shouldn't be surprised at what happens. It is good news that OK is history and these guys have full control. I bet that the new sponsorship deals have been done with the new business!
What is all of this silly arguing about. It was obvious that these guys were going to start a new business if they couldn't agree with OK. The RFL have been working with them very closely so are involved fully. This has been "plan B" for a while and I am amazed anyone is surprised at this. If I had been them it would have been plan A as long as the creditors didn't lose out. Business is business as people say and you shouldn't be surprised at what happens. It is good news that OK is history and these guys have full control. I bet that the new sponsorship deals have been done with the new business! bully4us

2:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

StevieLad says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL.

Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings.

So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans.

Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know.

Now back under your rock, shoo.
20 20 hindsight lol love it

Are you Viking in disguise
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.[/p][/quote]20 20 hindsight lol love it Are you Viking in disguise StevieLad

2:57pm Fri 31 Jan 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

To all you idiots on here,especially you T.V.O.R or you Stevie Lad,do you have the faintest idea where Viking is. No,thought not,imbeciles.
To all you idiots on here,especially you T.V.O.R or you Stevie Lad,do you have the faintest idea where Viking is. No,thought not,imbeciles. spanglishbull.uk

3:00pm Fri 31 Jan 14

northern pig says...

The positiive thing about next year,is that with promotion and relegation there is a direct route back to superleague if you aret relegated.IF AND THATS A BIG IF.we keep the sqad together we should be fine.There are more clubs than the Bulls in a perilous situation. Wakefield for instance.have only sold approximately 2000 season tickets and are starting the season operateing with a reduced ground capacity because remedial work is required at Bellevue It saddens me as i have no axe to grind with Wakey. they are another once great club who have fallen on hard times.Like us. they have not got a sugar daddy! Keep the faith.A pig.
The positiive thing about next year,is that with promotion and relegation there is a direct route back to superleague if you aret relegated.IF AND THATS A BIG IF.we keep the sqad together we should be fine.There are more clubs than the Bulls in a perilous situation. Wakefield for instance.have only sold approximately 2000 season tickets and are starting the season operateing with a reduced ground capacity because remedial work is required at Bellevue It saddens me as i have no axe to grind with Wakey. they are another once great club who have fallen on hard times.Like us. they have not got a sugar daddy! Keep the faith.A pig. northern pig

3:13pm Fri 31 Jan 14

johnboy7971 says...

I think they should be kicked out of SL
It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly.
Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures.

JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!!
I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!! johnboy7971

3:18pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

StevieLad wrote:
The Man From the Pru wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.
20 20 hindsight lol love it Are you Viking in disguise
Comment No1 on this story shows you who knew what they were talking about on when the new company was setup, and it weren't you Viking.

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/sp
ort/10846218.Bradfor
d_Bulls_deny_adminis
tration_claims/
[quote][p][bold]StevieLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: TVOR, how wrong you and that Andy2010 are, they club will suffer NO POINTS deduction. They are talking To ALL creditors, inc COUNCIL. Oh, TVOR, look on your favourite site, no not the one for Adults only, the company one. See when Bradford Bulls 2014, was set up. It was inevitable that this action would take place. OK Bulls going into Admin then being bought within the hour, tell you something, that the RFL knew about it, considering they have been involved in ALL the meetings. So slide back under your rocks or continue your pointless diatribe against the poor. Wonder if your remarks will beat your earlier ones for being minused. What was it -100 , foolish boy for trying to out do Bulls fans. Re your comment re Viking, you sir are an utter and total TW@. The man has probably forgotten more than you and your kind will ever know. Now back under your rock, shoo.[/p][/quote]20 20 hindsight lol love it Are you Viking in disguise[/p][/quote]Comment No1 on this story shows you who knew what they were talking about on when the new company was setup, and it weren't you Viking. http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/sp ort/10846218.Bradfor d_Bulls_deny_adminis tration_claims/ Bacon Bantam

3:19pm Fri 31 Jan 14

blue marlin says...

When will the rate payers of this fair city get to know where our 200k has gone?
What about the poor soles who lost there jobs?
What about the monies owed to potential creditor?
Somebody needs to be asking these and many more questions
Hint hint
When will the rate payers of this fair city get to know where our 200k has gone? What about the poor soles who lost there jobs? What about the monies owed to potential creditor? Somebody needs to be asking these and many more questions Hint hint blue marlin

3:21pm Fri 31 Jan 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

johnboy,

Come on you Bluesox.
johnboy, Come on you Bluesox. spanglishbull.uk

3:22pm Fri 31 Jan 14

johnboy7971 says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
johnboy,

Come on you Bluesox.
who are bluesox?
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: johnboy, Come on you Bluesox.[/p][/quote]who are bluesox? johnboy7971

3:24pm Fri 31 Jan 14

tinytoonster says...

bully4us wrote:
What is all of this silly arguing about. It was obvious that these guys were going to start a new business if they couldn't agree with OK. The RFL have been working with them very closely so are involved fully. This has been "plan B" for a while and I am amazed anyone is surprised at this. If I had been them it would have been plan A as long as the creditors didn't lose out.
Business is business as people say and you shouldn't be surprised at what happens. It is good news that OK is history and these guys have full control. I bet that the new sponsorship deals have been done with the new business!
he was a saviour when he came.
typical of bradford in general and i mean all bradford.
wave them in with one hand, give them the finger with the other.
sod you jack i'm all right attitude.
if he's lost everything he did it getting involved with the bulls, no sympathy?
thought not!
shameful.
[quote][p][bold]bully4us[/bold] wrote: What is all of this silly arguing about. It was obvious that these guys were going to start a new business if they couldn't agree with OK. The RFL have been working with them very closely so are involved fully. This has been "plan B" for a while and I am amazed anyone is surprised at this. If I had been them it would have been plan A as long as the creditors didn't lose out. Business is business as people say and you shouldn't be surprised at what happens. It is good news that OK is history and these guys have full control. I bet that the new sponsorship deals have been done with the new business![/p][/quote]he was a saviour when he came. typical of bradford in general and i mean all bradford. wave them in with one hand, give them the finger with the other. sod you jack i'm all right attitude. if he's lost everything he did it getting involved with the bulls, no sympathy? thought not! shameful. tinytoonster

3:25pm Fri 31 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

johnboy7971 wrote:
I think they should be kicked out of SL
It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly.
Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures.

JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!!
You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get.

You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan.
Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.
[quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!![/p][/quote]You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get. You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan. Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs. alive and awake

3:27pm Fri 31 Jan 14

The Man From the Pru says...

So TVOR, is the Messiah, the font of all knowledge. He knew what was going to happen yesterday. Yeh right. Can he please, if he is all seeing, give us this weekends lottery numbers.
I knew that from seeing the date of the formation of Bradford Bulls 2014, something like this was going to happen.
The man has convinced most of you doom merchants that he is correct in all things Bulls, Bradford Council. But as it has been pointed out he actually knows very little.
You, his disciples need to break away and get lives beyond TVOR's limited world.
So TVOR, is the Messiah, the font of all knowledge. He knew what was going to happen yesterday. Yeh right. Can he please, if he is all seeing, give us this weekends lottery numbers. I knew that from seeing the date of the formation of Bradford Bulls 2014, something like this was going to happen. The man has convinced most of you doom merchants that he is correct in all things Bulls, Bradford Council. But as it has been pointed out he actually knows very little. You, his disciples need to break away and get lives beyond TVOR's limited world. The Man From the Pru

3:28pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

alive and awake wrote:
johnboy7971 wrote: I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!!
You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get. You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan. Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.
Bulls aren't a top 4 side and haven't been for years.

Saint's, Hull, Leeds, Wigan, Warrington are all bigger clubs.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!![/p][/quote]You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get. You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan. Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.[/p][/quote]Bulls aren't a top 4 side and haven't been for years. Saint's, Hull, Leeds, Wigan, Warrington are all bigger clubs. Bacon Bantam

3:30pm Fri 31 Jan 14

johnboy7971 says...

alive and awake wrote:
johnboy7971 wrote:
I think they should be kicked out of SL
It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly.
Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures.

JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!!
You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get.

You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan.
Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.
they aren't a top 4 club anymore, wigan, saints, warrington, leeds, huddersfield all bigger now.
And yeah they should be kicked out because there should be some punishment for what they are doing, what about all other clubs bailing them out????? why is it their responsibilty to keep bulls afloat????

They are mismanaged and that should reflect on the pitch, look at rangers in scottish football, seems a very similar prediciment
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!![/p][/quote]You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get. You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan. Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.[/p][/quote]they aren't a top 4 club anymore, wigan, saints, warrington, leeds, huddersfield all bigger now. And yeah they should be kicked out because there should be some punishment for what they are doing, what about all other clubs bailing them out????? why is it their responsibilty to keep bulls afloat???? They are mismanaged and that should reflect on the pitch, look at rangers in scottish football, seems a very similar prediciment johnboy7971

3:31pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
So TVOR, is the Messiah, the font of all knowledge. He knew what was going to happen yesterday. Yeh right. Can he please, if he is all seeing, give us this weekends lottery numbers. I knew that from seeing the date of the formation of Bradford Bulls 2014, something like this was going to happen. The man has convinced most of you doom merchants that he is correct in all things Bulls, Bradford Council. But as it has been pointed out he actually knows very little. You, his disciples need to break away and get lives beyond TVOR's limited world.
Was he right in what he said in that story that the bulls had been saddled with debt, and everyone in that thread shouted him down only to be proven spot on days later at a fans forum.

Yes or No, The man from the Pru?
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: So TVOR, is the Messiah, the font of all knowledge. He knew what was going to happen yesterday. Yeh right. Can he please, if he is all seeing, give us this weekends lottery numbers. I knew that from seeing the date of the formation of Bradford Bulls 2014, something like this was going to happen. The man has convinced most of you doom merchants that he is correct in all things Bulls, Bradford Council. But as it has been pointed out he actually knows very little. You, his disciples need to break away and get lives beyond TVOR's limited world.[/p][/quote]Was he right in what he said in that story that the bulls had been saddled with debt, and everyone in that thread shouted him down only to be proven spot on days later at a fans forum. Yes or No, The man from the Pru? Bacon Bantam

3:34pm Fri 31 Jan 14

property man says...

can,t you lot see whats happened, quite simply the Bulls have been shafted dragged into debt massively by ok and his hidden troops, taking the glory for rescuing the club? what a total load of bullsh@t they have milked it dry to line their own pockets neither of them have any interest in the club, their attitude on match days was appalling, one of the biggest rip offs in the clubs history,however fortunately the new guys have seen them in their true light they have had the sense to talk to the rfl keeping them informed all along and now at last OK has been well and truly dunked in his own raitha dip so clear off ok and your slimy leeches crawl back under your shami kebab and let the true supporters take the helm
can,t you lot see whats happened, quite simply the Bulls have been shafted dragged into debt massively by ok and his hidden troops, taking the glory for rescuing the club? what a total load of bullsh@t they have milked it dry to line their own pockets neither of them have any interest in the club, their attitude on match days was appalling, one of the biggest rip offs in the clubs history,however fortunately the new guys have seen them in their true light they have had the sense to talk to the rfl keeping them informed all along and now at last OK has been well and truly dunked in his own raitha dip so clear off ok and your slimy leeches crawl back under your shami kebab and let the true supporters take the helm property man

3:41pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

blue marlin wrote:
When will the rate payers of this fair city get to know where our 200k has gone? What about the poor soles who lost there jobs? What about the monies owed to potential creditor? Somebody needs to be asking these and many more questions Hint hint
This information is needed and Reeve and Green need to be answering the question of the £200k loan and repayment. If as quoted Khan guaranteed is then ok, if Khan declares himself bankrupt and he loses his assets then what? The people of Bradford who don't give a toss about sport want to know and Sheffield Bull seems to think it is funny in a way about the debt situation and all in the name of the sham club he follows.

So how do we get the silent Reeve and ever so loud Green to answer?

The minimum for the Bulls should be at least ten points deduction if not instant relegation. It seems people are pushing a piece of paper around the table and hiding behind the limited company lark.

The RFL have an interest in the Bulls so they will try and pull out all the stops.

I doubt the new regime have the clout to pull this off, to pay people and run the club but that is up to them. But the council tax payers and people who have been made redundant by the council need to know some answers.

Over to you Gerry.
[quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: When will the rate payers of this fair city get to know where our 200k has gone? What about the poor soles who lost there jobs? What about the monies owed to potential creditor? Somebody needs to be asking these and many more questions Hint hint[/p][/quote]This information is needed and Reeve and Green need to be answering the question of the £200k loan and repayment. If as quoted Khan guaranteed is then ok, if Khan declares himself bankrupt and he loses his assets then what? The people of Bradford who don't give a toss about sport want to know and Sheffield Bull seems to think it is funny in a way about the debt situation and all in the name of the sham club he follows. So how do we get the silent Reeve and ever so loud Green to answer? The minimum for the Bulls should be at least ten points deduction if not instant relegation. It seems people are pushing a piece of paper around the table and hiding behind the limited company lark. The RFL have an interest in the Bulls so they will try and pull out all the stops. I doubt the new regime have the clout to pull this off, to pay people and run the club but that is up to them. But the council tax payers and people who have been made redundant by the council need to know some answers. Over to you Gerry. Papa Smurfs Wig

3:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

StevieLad says...

property man wrote:
can,t you lot see whats happened, quite simply the Bulls have been shafted dragged into debt massively by ok and his hidden troops, taking the glory for rescuing the club? what a total load of bullsh@t they have milked it dry to line their own pockets neither of them have any interest in the club, their attitude on match days was appalling, one of the biggest rip offs in the clubs history,however fortunately the new guys have seen them in their true light they have had the sense to talk to the rfl keeping them informed all along and now at last OK has been well and truly dunked in his own raitha dip so clear off ok and your slimy leeches crawl back under your shami kebab and let the true supporters take the helm
Can anyone put it better than this. I doubt it
[quote][p][bold]property man[/bold] wrote: can,t you lot see whats happened, quite simply the Bulls have been shafted dragged into debt massively by ok and his hidden troops, taking the glory for rescuing the club? what a total load of bullsh@t they have milked it dry to line their own pockets neither of them have any interest in the club, their attitude on match days was appalling, one of the biggest rip offs in the clubs history,however fortunately the new guys have seen them in their true light they have had the sense to talk to the rfl keeping them informed all along and now at last OK has been well and truly dunked in his own raitha dip so clear off ok and your slimy leeches crawl back under your shami kebab and let the true supporters take the helm[/p][/quote]Can anyone put it better than this. I doubt it StevieLad

3:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The Man From The Pru, or should I call you Viking62 for short?

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet, lamely claiming you knew it all from the start. Well you didn't you've even started a new username to save face after getting it so very very wrong.

I take no pleasure in seeing the Bulls in the state they are in but I'm glad those who ran the club are now out the way.

What really gets on many peoples nerves are these so call supporters who slate everyone who doesn't agree with them. Who get shouted down for sharing concerning news. For those who did that I will give them plenty back.

I think this is far from the end of this and many more obstacles will have to be passed before all this is put to bed. Omar won't go quietly is my prediction.
The Man From The Pru, or should I call you Viking62 for short? You seem to have a bee in your bonnet, lamely claiming you knew it all from the start. Well you didn't you've even started a new username to save face after getting it so very very wrong. I take no pleasure in seeing the Bulls in the state they are in but I'm glad those who ran the club are now out the way. What really gets on many peoples nerves are these so call supporters who slate everyone who doesn't agree with them. Who get shouted down for sharing concerning news. For those who did that I will give them plenty back. I think this is far from the end of this and many more obstacles will have to be passed before all this is put to bed. Omar won't go quietly is my prediction. Thee Voice of Reason

3:45pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

Thinking about setting up a business called Bradford Bulls 2015.

No doubt by next year will be in same boat and can flog the name to some new owners.
Thinking about setting up a business called Bradford Bulls 2015. No doubt by next year will be in same boat and can flog the name to some new owners. Andy2010

3:46pm Fri 31 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

johnboy7971 wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
johnboy7971 wrote:
I think they should be kicked out of SL
It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly.
Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures.

JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!!
You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get.

You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan.
Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.
they aren't a top 4 club anymore, wigan, saints, warrington, leeds, huddersfield all bigger now.
And yeah they should be kicked out because there should be some punishment for what they are doing, what about all other clubs bailing them out????? why is it their responsibilty to keep bulls afloat????

They are mismanaged and that should reflect on the pitch, look at rangers in scottish football, seems a very similar prediciment
You really do not understand do you?
I agree the directors should be punished, strike them off or at the very least ban them from being involved with professional sports clubs. .Suttcliffe should be brought to task as well
You are suggesting punishing the players and worst of all the fans. What is the point of that. Rugby league can not afford to lose 10 - 24k supporters. WISE UP.
[quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!![/p][/quote]You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get. You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan. Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.[/p][/quote]they aren't a top 4 club anymore, wigan, saints, warrington, leeds, huddersfield all bigger now. And yeah they should be kicked out because there should be some punishment for what they are doing, what about all other clubs bailing them out????? why is it their responsibilty to keep bulls afloat???? They are mismanaged and that should reflect on the pitch, look at rangers in scottish football, seems a very similar prediciment[/p][/quote]You really do not understand do you? I agree the directors should be punished, strike them off or at the very least ban them from being involved with professional sports clubs. .Suttcliffe should be brought to task as well You are suggesting punishing the players and worst of all the fans. What is the point of that. Rugby league can not afford to lose 10 - 24k supporters. WISE UP. alive and awake

3:47pm Fri 31 Jan 14

The Man From the Pru says...

Bacon, you've got the TVOR touch, stating the obvious, a thing that we all know we are, at the moment, not a top four club.

As to TVOR, being right, he was, but he was only stating what had been in the press and on TV, for the previous weeks. He uses the same sources as others but he never accepts what they say as truth.

Bacon, I suggest you get out from under his shadow, stop praising him, it's what he wants. You have a mind of your own, as can be seen from your posts. So use it.
Bacon, you've got the TVOR touch, stating the obvious, a thing that we all know we are, at the moment, not a top four club. As to TVOR, being right, he was, but he was only stating what had been in the press and on TV, for the previous weeks. He uses the same sources as others but he never accepts what they say as truth. Bacon, I suggest you get out from under his shadow, stop praising him, it's what he wants. You have a mind of your own, as can be seen from your posts. So use it. The Man From the Pru

3:54pm Fri 31 Jan 14

johnboy7971 says...

alive and awake wrote:
johnboy7971 wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
johnboy7971 wrote:
I think they should be kicked out of SL
It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly.
Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures.

JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!!
You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get.

You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan.
Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.
they aren't a top 4 club anymore, wigan, saints, warrington, leeds, huddersfield all bigger now.
And yeah they should be kicked out because there should be some punishment for what they are doing, what about all other clubs bailing them out????? why is it their responsibilty to keep bulls afloat????

They are mismanaged and that should reflect on the pitch, look at rangers in scottish football, seems a very similar prediciment
You really do not understand do you?
I agree the directors should be punished, strike them off or at the very least ban them from being involved with professional sports clubs. .Suttcliffe should be brought to task as well
You are suggesting punishing the players and worst of all the fans. What is the point of that. Rugby league can not afford to lose 10 - 24k supporters. WISE UP.
You really do not understand do you? I agree the directors should be punished, strike them off or at the very least ban them from being involved with professional sports clubs. .Suttcliffe should be brought to task as well You are suggesting punishing the players and worst of all the fans. What is the point of that. Rugby league can not afford to lose 10 - 24k supporters. WISE UP.

What have fans got to do with it? your saying super league wouldnt survive without bulls????
you need to wise up my friend, no club is bigger than the league, i believe relegation will get bulls this season and i for one think it will be deserved
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnboy7971[/bold] wrote: I think they should be kicked out of SL It just seems like they can do anything they want, while other clubs try and run their clubs correctly. Dock enough points to guarantee relegation, or simply swap with a championship team and swap fixtures. JOKE OF A CLUB!!!!!![/p][/quote]You really want to kick out a club that still has the potential to get 20,000+ gates, and take more away supporters to games than the home side might get. You must be either stupid, or not a rugby league fan. Rugby League is in a bad enough state without losing one of the top 4 clubs.[/p][/quote]they aren't a top 4 club anymore, wigan, saints, warrington, leeds, huddersfield all bigger now. And yeah they should be kicked out because there should be some punishment for what they are doing, what about all other clubs bailing them out????? why is it their responsibilty to keep bulls afloat???? They are mismanaged and that should reflect on the pitch, look at rangers in scottish football, seems a very similar prediciment[/p][/quote]You really do not understand do you? I agree the directors should be punished, strike them off or at the very least ban them from being involved with professional sports clubs. .Suttcliffe should be brought to task as well You are suggesting punishing the players and worst of all the fans. What is the point of that. Rugby league can not afford to lose 10 - 24k supporters. WISE UP.[/p][/quote]You really do not understand do you? I agree the directors should be punished, strike them off or at the very least ban them from being involved with professional sports clubs. .Suttcliffe should be brought to task as well You are suggesting punishing the players and worst of all the fans. What is the point of that. Rugby league can not afford to lose 10 - 24k supporters. WISE UP. What have fans got to do with it? your saying super league wouldnt survive without bulls???? you need to wise up my friend, no club is bigger than the league, i believe relegation will get bulls this season and i for one think it will be deserved johnboy7971

4:00pm Fri 31 Jan 14

The Man From the Pru says...

What a pity, TVOR, why is it that you assume anyone on here who stands up to your physcological bullying and disagrees with your ramblings is the Viking. Are you afraid of him. Has he found your weakness. Are you looking for more praise from others by trying to belittle him.

You believe more is to follow, what a prediction, it is odds on there will be more problems, good or bad, doesn't take a genius to work that out. Oh, whilst we are on bout it, how come you NEVER post when something good happens at Odsal or are you just a born trouble causer.
What a pity, TVOR, why is it that you assume anyone on here who stands up to your physcological bullying and disagrees with your ramblings is the Viking. Are you afraid of him. Has he found your weakness. Are you looking for more praise from others by trying to belittle him. You believe more is to follow, what a prediction, it is odds on there will be more problems, good or bad, doesn't take a genius to work that out. Oh, whilst we are on bout it, how come you NEVER post when something good happens at Odsal or are you just a born trouble causer. The Man From the Pru

4:04pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
What a pity, TVOR, why is it that you assume anyone on here who stands up to your physcological bullying and disagrees with your ramblings is the Viking. Are you afraid of him. Has he found your weakness. Are you looking for more praise from others by trying to belittle him.

You believe more is to follow, what a prediction, it is odds on there will be more problems, good or bad, doesn't take a genius to work that out. Oh, whilst we are on bout it, how come you NEVER post when something good happens at Odsal or are you just a born trouble causer.
I could ask why you know so much about my posting history when you have only recently started posting on here and others with the same bee in their bonnet about me have disappeared, strange that.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: What a pity, TVOR, why is it that you assume anyone on here who stands up to your physcological bullying and disagrees with your ramblings is the Viking. Are you afraid of him. Has he found your weakness. Are you looking for more praise from others by trying to belittle him. You believe more is to follow, what a prediction, it is odds on there will be more problems, good or bad, doesn't take a genius to work that out. Oh, whilst we are on bout it, how come you NEVER post when something good happens at Odsal or are you just a born trouble causer.[/p][/quote]I could ask why you know so much about my posting history when you have only recently started posting on here and others with the same bee in their bonnet about me have disappeared, strange that. Thee Voice of Reason

4:06pm Fri 31 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

To all you non Rugby League fans, and there are plenty on this forum today.

Make no mistake if the Bulls are not in Super League, that will be the end of them. They might drop to a lower division, but they will not play at Odsal, Odsal will be gone to sport forever. I know a lot of people want to see this happen. It will be a tragedy. Personally I can't see how it can be avoided unless somebody out there with some serious money steps , but they have had plenty of time.
It's been on the agenda to close Odsal for years, and now they have nearly achieved it RIP Rugby League in Bradford. ps I will not use a curry house in Bradford again in case it as connections with OK.
To all you non Rugby League fans, and there are plenty on this forum today. Make no mistake if the Bulls are not in Super League, that will be the end of them. They might drop to a lower division, but they will not play at Odsal, Odsal will be gone to sport forever. I know a lot of people want to see this happen. It will be a tragedy. Personally I can't see how it can be avoided unless somebody out there with some serious money steps , but they have had plenty of time. It's been on the agenda to close Odsal for years, and now they have nearly achieved it RIP Rugby League in Bradford. ps I will not use a curry house in Bradford again in case it as connections with OK. alive and awake

4:13pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Eddiethepom says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque.

On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration??

I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
Yes they do seeing as the council we pay each year decided to bail them out.

I'd rather the council backed more sustainable businesses than the jokers in charge of the bulls whoever that is this month.

That 200k could go a long way to keeping open some council run services
I agree completely.

However, if you look at your initial comment, you will see I have made a bit of a play on words!!?? It reads as though they owe EVERY individual council tax payer £200k.

My apologies for trying to make light of things.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]Yes they do seeing as the council we pay each year decided to bail them out. I'd rather the council backed more sustainable businesses than the jokers in charge of the bulls whoever that is this month. That 200k could go a long way to keeping open some council run services[/p][/quote]I agree completely. However, if you look at your initial comment, you will see I have made a bit of a play on words!!?? It reads as though they owe EVERY individual council tax payer £200k. My apologies for trying to make light of things. Eddiethepom

4:23pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy2010 says...

Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Eddiethepom wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?
They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque.

On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration??

I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.
Yes they do seeing as the council we pay each year decided to bail them out.

I'd rather the council backed more sustainable businesses than the jokers in charge of the bulls whoever that is this month.

That 200k could go a long way to keeping open some council run services
I agree completely.

However, if you look at your initial comment, you will see I have made a bit of a play on words!!?? It reads as though they owe EVERY individual council tax payer £200k.

My apologies for trying to make light of things.
no worries mate

I meant £200k owed to the council
[quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddiethepom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: What about the £200k owed to every council tax payer in Bradford?[/p][/quote]They owe £200k to every coucil tax payerin Bradford!!!! Fantastic......i look forward to getting the cheque. On a more serious note, If the RFL have agreed the takeover and transferred all assets to Bradford Bulls 2014, how can they deduct points for OK Bulls going into administration?? I may be missing something, it is a genuine question.[/p][/quote]Yes they do seeing as the council we pay each year decided to bail them out. I'd rather the council backed more sustainable businesses than the jokers in charge of the bulls whoever that is this month. That 200k could go a long way to keeping open some council run services[/p][/quote]I agree completely. However, if you look at your initial comment, you will see I have made a bit of a play on words!!?? It reads as though they owe EVERY individual council tax payer £200k. My apologies for trying to make light of things.[/p][/quote]no worries mate I meant £200k owed to the council Andy2010

4:25pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT.

What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown?

Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.
So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT. What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown? Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC. Bacon Bantam

4:34pm Fri 31 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT.

What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown?

Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.
Quite right. We should have ask the Rev. Flowers for a few quid, when he had the co-op coffers to give away.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT. What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown? Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.[/p][/quote]Quite right. We should have ask the Rev. Flowers for a few quid, when he had the co-op coffers to give away. alive and awake

4:38pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT. What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown? Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.
I was told by someone who had the misfortune to go bust due to the financial meltdown from 2008 that he couldn't be an MP or be a director of a limited company for six years after his one year of being bankrupt. I wonder where this puts Sutcliffe if it is true.

I really don't know why people are arguing on here, the Bulls fans mainly seem smug and some of the others are getting them to rise. Hmm it was the Bulls fans who were very smug just over a year ago praising Khan being the saviour and now they have found out he's a bit different from what they at first believed.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT. What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown? Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.[/p][/quote]I was told by someone who had the misfortune to go bust due to the financial meltdown from 2008 that he couldn't be an MP or be a director of a limited company for six years after his one year of being bankrupt. I wonder where this puts Sutcliffe if it is true. I really don't know why people are arguing on here, the Bulls fans mainly seem smug and some of the others are getting them to rise. Hmm it was the Bulls fans who were very smug just over a year ago praising Khan being the saviour and now they have found out he's a bit different from what they at first believed. Papa Smurfs Wig

4:42pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Scrouge says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT.

What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown?

Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.
Have the Players been paid?. If Khan has lost money,Good.
Suitcliffe got out because he seen what was going on. He like the New self appointed Directors do not have the funds to support and fund the Club.
A big gamble ,points will be deducted,income from Sky money reduced and wages to be found . I fear we will be back here again no Sugar Daddy wants to invest.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: So we have seen from the link provided previously that HMRC are winding up OK Bulls Limited from what we can only presume is an outstanding tax liability, most likely to be either PAYE or VAT. What are the rules with regards to MP's being directors of companies that run up large debts to the crown? Would like to see where that leaves Mr Sutcliffe who was listed a director of the company now being wound up by HMRC.[/p][/quote]Have the Players been paid?. If Khan has lost money,Good. Suitcliffe got out because he seen what was going on. He like the New self appointed Directors do not have the funds to support and fund the Club. A big gamble ,points will be deducted,income from Sky money reduced and wages to be found . I fear we will be back here again no Sugar Daddy wants to invest. Scrouge

4:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

whisky1 says...

BDMC explicitly stated that OK signed a Personal Guarantee. Pressure should be applied immediately to find out what steps are being taken to recover the sum.
BDMC explicitly stated that OK signed a Personal Guarantee. Pressure should be applied immediately to find out what steps are being taken to recover the sum. whisky1

4:46pm Fri 31 Jan 14

The Man From the Pru says...

Sutcliffe was NOT a director only Honorary Chair. See below,

On August 31, 2012 as the sole director of OK Bulls Limited and with the support of Labour MP and former sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe purchased the Rugby League club.

TVOR, like you I can use a computer, read the archives, that's how I know your form. I was right YOU are worried about Viking. The others I know nothing about, maybe they like many others on here are fed up with your inane and vitriolic spoutings. As ALL, esp Viking have said you only show when money, Ok and the Bulls are mentioned in an article. What happened to you, to be so bitter, food poisoning from a bad curry, rejected by the Bulls or Sutcliffe stopped you joining the party.
Sutcliffe was NOT a director only Honorary Chair. See below, On August 31, 2012 as the sole director of OK Bulls Limited and with the support of Labour MP and former sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe purchased the Rugby League club. TVOR, like you I can use a computer, read the archives, that's how I know your form. I was right YOU are worried about Viking. The others I know nothing about, maybe they like many others on here are fed up with your inane and vitriolic spoutings. As ALL, esp Viking have said you only show when money, Ok and the Bulls are mentioned in an article. What happened to you, to be so bitter, food poisoning from a bad curry, rejected by the Bulls or Sutcliffe stopped you joining the party. The Man From the Pru

4:51pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Pablo says...

Death by a thousand cuts. If we were an animal, we'd have been put down by now.

How can we expect the players to raise themselves for the season's start ( if we make it! ) with this continuing ducking an diving going on in the background.

I'm thoroughly sick and tired of the laughing stock that we've become.
Death by a thousand cuts. If we were an animal, we'd have been put down by now. How can we expect the players to raise themselves for the season's start ( if we make it! ) with this continuing ducking an diving going on in the background. I'm thoroughly sick and tired of the laughing stock that we've become. Pablo

5:04pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
Sutcliffe was NOT a director only Honorary Chair. See below, On August 31, 2012 as the sole director of OK Bulls Limited and with the support of Labour MP and former sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe purchased the Rugby League club. TVOR, like you I can use a computer, read the archives, that's how I know your form. I was right YOU are worried about Viking. The others I know nothing about, maybe they like many others on here are fed up with your inane and vitriolic spoutings. As ALL, esp Viking have said you only show when money, Ok and the Bulls are mentioned in an article. What happened to you, to be so bitter, food poisoning from a bad curry, rejected by the Bulls or Sutcliffe stopped you joining the party.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, again.

If your going to have a go at him, at least double check what your saying otherwise you look an idiot.

From companies house, and no it's not hard to use or find out.
OK BULLS LIMITED
Company No. 08196681
10/05/2013 DIRECTOR APPOINTED GERARD SUTCLIFFE
then
26/09/2013 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERARD SUTCLIFFE

Not a director, care to revoke that statement?
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: Sutcliffe was NOT a director only Honorary Chair. See below, On August 31, 2012 as the sole director of OK Bulls Limited and with the support of Labour MP and former sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe purchased the Rugby League club. TVOR, like you I can use a computer, read the archives, that's how I know your form. I was right YOU are worried about Viking. The others I know nothing about, maybe they like many others on here are fed up with your inane and vitriolic spoutings. As ALL, esp Viking have said you only show when money, Ok and the Bulls are mentioned in an article. What happened to you, to be so bitter, food poisoning from a bad curry, rejected by the Bulls or Sutcliffe stopped you joining the party.[/p][/quote]Wrong, wrong, wrong, again. If your going to have a go at him, at least double check what your saying otherwise you look an idiot. From companies house, and no it's not hard to use or find out. OK BULLS LIMITED Company No. 08196681 10/05/2013 DIRECTOR APPOINTED GERARD SUTCLIFFE then 26/09/2013 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERARD SUTCLIFFE Not a director, care to revoke that statement? Bacon Bantam

5:16pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bacon Bantam says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
Sutcliffe was NOT a director only Honorary Chair. See below, On August 31, 2012 as the sole director of OK Bulls Limited and with the support of Labour MP and former sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe purchased the Rugby League club. TVOR, like you I can use a computer, read the archives, that's how I know your form. I was right YOU are worried about Viking. The others I know nothing about, maybe they like many others on here are fed up with your inane and vitriolic spoutings. As ALL, esp Viking have said you only show when money, Ok and the Bulls are mentioned in an article. What happened to you, to be so bitter, food poisoning from a bad curry, rejected by the Bulls or Sutcliffe stopped you joining the party.
You've really given yourself away here.

On this thread, only Viking is the one who referes to the club having a sole director.

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/sp
ort/10846218.Bradfor
d_Bulls_deny_adminis
tration_claims/

Coincidence?
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: Sutcliffe was NOT a director only Honorary Chair. See below, On August 31, 2012 as the sole director of OK Bulls Limited and with the support of Labour MP and former sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe purchased the Rugby League club. TVOR, like you I can use a computer, read the archives, that's how I know your form. I was right YOU are worried about Viking. The others I know nothing about, maybe they like many others on here are fed up with your inane and vitriolic spoutings. As ALL, esp Viking have said you only show when money, Ok and the Bulls are mentioned in an article. What happened to you, to be so bitter, food poisoning from a bad curry, rejected by the Bulls or Sutcliffe stopped you joining the party.[/p][/quote]You've really given yourself away here. On this thread, only Viking is the one who referes to the club having a sole director. http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/sp ort/10846218.Bradfor d_Bulls_deny_adminis tration_claims/ Coincidence? Bacon Bantam

5:55pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

I can't really be bothered responding to much of the above. Some folk are talking sense; most of the usual suspects are at best ill-informed or misguided, and at worst malicious. That does not mean that, in amongst, the usual suspects do not raise some valid questions and points. Its just a pity that, in too many cases, they detract from valid questions by their general attitude and sometimes clear schadenfreude.

If it transpires that the genuine creditors are settled with by the new company, so the only loss is to OK and maybe to any toxic "funny" creditors that arose on his watch, then the net result of what has happened will merely be that a club owner has had to write off his investment in a club (shares and loans). Happens all the time. No loss of credibility to the game, no financial loss to valid creditors. No reason therefore for any points deduction. Just an extreme way of forcing through an ownership change. And ensuring it is on a more secure financial footing going forward.

If it was to transpire that the new company does not intend to settle with the valid creditors, then that would be a different situation and the usual suspects would have a much better case. But, until or unless we learn otherwise, I am taking the club statement as saying that they intend to settle with the creditors. It may well be that the price the new company paid for the assets took account of just that, although only the parties to the transaction will know.

I suspect the company would have had only a very short future anyway had it continued to be run by OK.

Sutcliffe WAS a director, btw. All the directors - past and present - will face investigation by the administrator, who is required to report on their conduct. If they have always acted in good faith, honestly and in accordance with their legal and fiduciary responsibilities, then they will have nothing to worry about.
I can't really be bothered responding to much of the above. Some folk are talking sense; most of the usual suspects are at best ill-informed or misguided, and at worst malicious. That does not mean that, in amongst, the usual suspects do not raise some valid questions and points. Its just a pity that, in too many cases, they detract from valid questions by their general attitude and sometimes clear schadenfreude. If it transpires that the genuine creditors are settled with by the new company, so the only loss is to OK and maybe to any toxic "funny" creditors that arose on his watch, then the net result of what has happened will merely be that a club owner has had to write off his investment in a club (shares and loans). Happens all the time. No loss of credibility to the game, no financial loss to valid creditors. No reason therefore for any points deduction. Just an extreme way of forcing through an ownership change. And ensuring it is on a more secure financial footing going forward. If it was to transpire that the new company does not intend to settle with the valid creditors, then that would be a different situation and the usual suspects would have a much better case. But, until or unless we learn otherwise, I am taking the club statement as saying that they intend to settle with the creditors. It may well be that the price the new company paid for the assets took account of just that, although only the parties to the transaction will know. I suspect the company would have had only a very short future anyway had it continued to be run by OK. Sutcliffe WAS a director, btw. All the directors - past and present - will face investigation by the administrator, who is required to report on their conduct. If they have always acted in good faith, honestly and in accordance with their legal and fiduciary responsibilities, then they will have nothing to worry about. Adeybull

5:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

btw, the headline on this article is extremely unhelpful, and is hardly neutral reporting IMO. Very disappointing.
btw, the headline on this article is extremely unhelpful, and is hardly neutral reporting IMO. Very disappointing. Adeybull

6:08pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

Pablo wrote:
Death by a thousand cuts. If we were an animal, we'd have been put down by now.

How can we expect the players to raise themselves for the season's start ( if we make it! ) with this continuing ducking an diving going on in the background.

I'm thoroughly sick and tired of the laughing stock that we've become.
Hardly, though.

If I was a player, provided there are no sanctions from the RFL then I would be feeling far more secure today than yesterday.

At a stroke, the ownership debacle that has dogged the club for months is resolved. And whatever the club owed to OK (because he did NOT invest in the club just loaned it money) is now history. So the financial position of his employer is improved dramatically too.

If this is structured and handled right (and it better be - there is no excuse for it not to be), then the only loss of any substance will be to OK, and maybe to any dodgy creditors that arose on his watch. Which is why I assume the club is headlining today's developments as completing the ownership change, rather than in the very negative way the T&A have headlined it. Hopefully, the club's line on it will prove to be the one that best reflects the substance of what has happened.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: Death by a thousand cuts. If we were an animal, we'd have been put down by now. How can we expect the players to raise themselves for the season's start ( if we make it! ) with this continuing ducking an diving going on in the background. I'm thoroughly sick and tired of the laughing stock that we've become.[/p][/quote]Hardly, though. If I was a player, provided there are no sanctions from the RFL then I would be feeling far more secure today than yesterday. At a stroke, the ownership debacle that has dogged the club for months is resolved. And whatever the club owed to OK (because he did NOT invest in the club just loaned it money) is now history. So the financial position of his employer is improved dramatically too. If this is structured and handled right (and it better be - there is no excuse for it not to be), then the only loss of any substance will be to OK, and maybe to any dodgy creditors that arose on his watch. Which is why I assume the club is headlining today's developments as completing the ownership change, rather than in the very negative way the T&A have headlined it. Hopefully, the club's line on it will prove to be the one that best reflects the substance of what has happened. Adeybull

6:13pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Lythambull says...

Adeybull wrote:
btw, the headline on this article is extremely unhelpful, and is hardly neutral reporting IMO. Very disappointing.
Agreed, it doesn't take much to start the hissy fits and stern "I told you so"'s ;)

I guess all fans of the bulls are crossing their fingers that we don't get a points deduction but if that's something that comes about the only way to face it is together and head on.

I'd personally like to thank the poster who didn't know who the Bluesox were. That was Halifax a few years ago btw, and hardly cements your position as a knowledgable contributor, does it?! ;)

Also, since quite a few City fans seem to want to sully our name and revel in our misfortune I'm sure you were already aware that the Bulls have won a competitive home game more recently than you. That was last season.

So glad to see we can all stick together, eh people?
[quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: btw, the headline on this article is extremely unhelpful, and is hardly neutral reporting IMO. Very disappointing.[/p][/quote]Agreed, it doesn't take much to start the hissy fits and stern "I told you so"'s ;) I guess all fans of the bulls are crossing their fingers that we don't get a points deduction but if that's something that comes about the only way to face it is together and head on. I'd personally like to thank the poster who didn't know who the Bluesox were. That was Halifax a few years ago btw, and hardly cements your position as a knowledgable contributor, does it?! ;) Also, since quite a few City fans seem to want to sully our name and revel in our misfortune I'm sure you were already aware that the Bulls have won a competitive home game more recently than you. That was last season. So glad to see we can all stick together, eh people? Lythambull

6:20pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Pablo says...

Adeybull wrote:
I can't really be bothered responding to much of the above. Some folk are talking sense; most of the usual suspects are at best ill-informed or misguided, and at worst malicious. That does not mean that, in amongst, the usual suspects do not raise some valid questions and points. Its just a pity that, in too many cases, they detract from valid questions by their general attitude and sometimes clear schadenfreude.

If it transpires that the genuine creditors are settled with by the new company, so the only loss is to OK and maybe to any toxic "funny" creditors that arose on his watch, then the net result of what has happened will merely be that a club owner has had to write off his investment in a club (shares and loans). Happens all the time. No loss of credibility to the game, no financial loss to valid creditors. No reason therefore for any points deduction. Just an extreme way of forcing through an ownership change. And ensuring it is on a more secure financial footing going forward.

If it was to transpire that the new company does not intend to settle with the valid creditors, then that would be a different situation and the usual suspects would have a much better case. But, until or unless we learn otherwise, I am taking the club statement as saying that they intend to settle with the creditors. It may well be that the price the new company paid for the assets took account of just that, although only the parties to the transaction will know.

I suspect the company would have had only a very short future anyway had it continued to be run by OK.

Sutcliffe WAS a director, btw. All the directors - past and present - will face investigation by the administrator, who is required to report on their conduct. If they have always acted in good faith, honestly and in accordance with their legal and fiduciary responsibilities, then they will have nothing to worry about.
Some good points adey.

However, the major problem still exists. The majority of spectator income for the season has already been received but there remains hefty ongoing expense in terms of player and staff wages. Robbie Paul's promise of "exciting" partnership news two weeks ago turned out to be a non event. Unless the new regime have the wherewithal to cover the shortfall, it'll only be a matter of months before the final nail in the coffin. I sincerely hope there's a big pot of cash waiting to be invested.
[quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: I can't really be bothered responding to much of the above. Some folk are talking sense; most of the usual suspects are at best ill-informed or misguided, and at worst malicious. That does not mean that, in amongst, the usual suspects do not raise some valid questions and points. Its just a pity that, in too many cases, they detract from valid questions by their general attitude and sometimes clear schadenfreude. If it transpires that the genuine creditors are settled with by the new company, so the only loss is to OK and maybe to any toxic "funny" creditors that arose on his watch, then the net result of what has happened will merely be that a club owner has had to write off his investment in a club (shares and loans). Happens all the time. No loss of credibility to the game, no financial loss to valid creditors. No reason therefore for any points deduction. Just an extreme way of forcing through an ownership change. And ensuring it is on a more secure financial footing going forward. If it was to transpire that the new company does not intend to settle with the valid creditors, then that would be a different situation and the usual suspects would have a much better case. But, until or unless we learn otherwise, I am taking the club statement as saying that they intend to settle with the creditors. It may well be that the price the new company paid for the assets took account of just that, although only the parties to the transaction will know. I suspect the company would have had only a very short future anyway had it continued to be run by OK. Sutcliffe WAS a director, btw. All the directors - past and present - will face investigation by the administrator, who is required to report on their conduct. If they have always acted in good faith, honestly and in accordance with their legal and fiduciary responsibilities, then they will have nothing to worry about.[/p][/quote]Some good points adey. However, the major problem still exists. The majority of spectator income for the season has already been received but there remains hefty ongoing expense in terms of player and staff wages. Robbie Paul's promise of "exciting" partnership news two weeks ago turned out to be a non event. Unless the new regime have the wherewithal to cover the shortfall, it'll only be a matter of months before the final nail in the coffin. I sincerely hope there's a big pot of cash waiting to be invested. Pablo

6:28pm Fri 31 Jan 14

The Man From the Pru says...

So I read on, Wiki, on Companies House, that OK is SOLE director on buying the club. In other publications, it was stated that GS was the Honorary Chair. So, plus OK had said that he was the ONLY director. So I'm attacked for reading the wrong info. That's what Others did as well, if you read back records,. All hail TVOR he his right always, so therefore all others are wrong. But yours and TVORs obsession with Viking borders on the ridiculous or the morbid. You both have a problem, as do all bullies, you can give but can't take it.
So I read on, Wiki, on Companies House, that OK is SOLE director on buying the club. In other publications, it was stated that GS was the Honorary Chair. So, plus OK had said that he was the ONLY director. So I'm attacked for reading the wrong info. That's what Others did as well, if you read back records,. All hail TVOR he his right always, so therefore all others are wrong. But yours and TVORs obsession with Viking borders on the ridiculous or the morbid. You both have a problem, as do all bullies, you can give but can't take it. The Man From the Pru

6:37pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

Pablo wrote:
Adeybull wrote:
I can't really be bothered responding to much of the above. Some folk are talking sense; most of the usual suspects are at best ill-informed or misguided, and at worst malicious. That does not mean that, in amongst, the usual suspects do not raise some valid questions and points. Its just a pity that, in too many cases, they detract from valid questions by their general attitude and sometimes clear schadenfreude.

If it transpires that the genuine creditors are settled with by the new company, so the only loss is to OK and maybe to any toxic "funny" creditors that arose on his watch, then the net result of what has happened will merely be that a club owner has had to write off his investment in a club (shares and loans). Happens all the time. No loss of credibility to the game, no financial loss to valid creditors. No reason therefore for any points deduction. Just an extreme way of forcing through an ownership change. And ensuring it is on a more secure financial footing going forward.

If it was to transpire that the new company does not intend to settle with the valid creditors, then that would be a different situation and the usual suspects would have a much better case. But, until or unless we learn otherwise, I am taking the club statement as saying that they intend to settle with the creditors. It may well be that the price the new company paid for the assets took account of just that, although only the parties to the transaction will know.

I suspect the company would have had only a very short future anyway had it continued to be run by OK.

Sutcliffe WAS a director, btw. All the directors - past and present - will face investigation by the administrator, who is required to report on their conduct. If they have always acted in good faith, honestly and in accordance with their legal and fiduciary responsibilities, then they will have nothing to worry about.
Some good points adey.

However, the major problem still exists. The majority of spectator income for the season has already been received but there remains hefty ongoing expense in terms of player and staff wages. Robbie Paul's promise of "exciting" partnership news two weeks ago turned out to be a non event. Unless the new regime have the wherewithal to cover the shortfall, it'll only be a matter of months before the final nail in the coffin. I sincerely hope there's a big pot of cash waiting to be invested.
The thing is, how do you know they have not already balanced the books, with the cuts already made and whatever income streams have been put in place (announced or otherwise)?

Talking to them (as I have, on quite a few occasions now), what comes across pretty clearly is that they believe they HAVE balanced the books. As Paul Medley said on Wednesday night, these are the first owners he has worked for who know how to say "no" - and DO say "no". He said all the previous owners had said "yes" far too often, and then not been able to deliver. With the consequences that have been all to clerar. He said he had far more confidence in these guys than any of the predecessors.

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating, obviously, and it is totally understandable why many people will be sceptical until they see actions and results not just words. We have all been burned before, and I am certainly not taking everything said as gospel. As I said at the meeting on Wednesday, all I can say is that the current guys inspire me with more confidence than any of their recent predecessors. We can only hope that that confidence will prove to be justified.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: I can't really be bothered responding to much of the above. Some folk are talking sense; most of the usual suspects are at best ill-informed or misguided, and at worst malicious. That does not mean that, in amongst, the usual suspects do not raise some valid questions and points. Its just a pity that, in too many cases, they detract from valid questions by their general attitude and sometimes clear schadenfreude. If it transpires that the genuine creditors are settled with by the new company, so the only loss is to OK and maybe to any toxic "funny" creditors that arose on his watch, then the net result of what has happened will merely be that a club owner has had to write off his investment in a club (shares and loans). Happens all the time. No loss of credibility to the game, no financial loss to valid creditors. No reason therefore for any points deduction. Just an extreme way of forcing through an ownership change. And ensuring it is on a more secure financial footing going forward. If it was to transpire that the new company does not intend to settle with the valid creditors, then that would be a different situation and the usual suspects would have a much better case. But, until or unless we learn otherwise, I am taking the club statement as saying that they intend to settle with the creditors. It may well be that the price the new company paid for the assets took account of just that, although only the parties to the transaction will know. I suspect the company would have had only a very short future anyway had it continued to be run by OK. Sutcliffe WAS a director, btw. All the directors - past and present - will face investigation by the administrator, who is required to report on their conduct. If they have always acted in good faith, honestly and in accordance with their legal and fiduciary responsibilities, then they will have nothing to worry about.[/p][/quote]Some good points adey. However, the major problem still exists. The majority of spectator income for the season has already been received but there remains hefty ongoing expense in terms of player and staff wages. Robbie Paul's promise of "exciting" partnership news two weeks ago turned out to be a non event. Unless the new regime have the wherewithal to cover the shortfall, it'll only be a matter of months before the final nail in the coffin. I sincerely hope there's a big pot of cash waiting to be invested.[/p][/quote]The thing is, how do you know they have not already balanced the books, with the cuts already made and whatever income streams have been put in place (announced or otherwise)? Talking to them (as I have, on quite a few occasions now), what comes across pretty clearly is that they believe they HAVE balanced the books. As Paul Medley said on Wednesday night, these are the first owners he has worked for who know how to say "no" - and DO say "no". He said all the previous owners had said "yes" far too often, and then not been able to deliver. With the consequences that have been all to clerar. He said he had far more confidence in these guys than any of the predecessors. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating, obviously, and it is totally understandable why many people will be sceptical until they see actions and results not just words. We have all been burned before, and I am certainly not taking everything said as gospel. As I said at the meeting on Wednesday, all I can say is that the current guys inspire me with more confidence than any of their recent predecessors. We can only hope that that confidence will prove to be justified. Adeybull

6:38pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
So I read on, Wiki, on Companies House, that OK is SOLE director on buying the club. In other publications, it was stated that GS was the Honorary Chair. So, plus OK had said that he was the ONLY director. So I'm attacked for reading the wrong info. That's what Others did as well, if you read back records,. All hail TVOR he his right always, so therefore all others are wrong. But yours and TVORs obsession with Viking borders on the ridiculous or the morbid. You both have a problem, as do all bullies, you can give but can't take it.
Adeybull confirms Sutcliffe was a director. Is he a troll as you call anyone who says different to you?
Why you getting upset anyhow for been proven to quote rubbish. If you don't want to look stupid don't quote stupid things as gospel.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: So I read on, Wiki, on Companies House, that OK is SOLE director on buying the club. In other publications, it was stated that GS was the Honorary Chair. So, plus OK had said that he was the ONLY director. So I'm attacked for reading the wrong info. That's what Others did as well, if you read back records,. All hail TVOR he his right always, so therefore all others are wrong. But yours and TVORs obsession with Viking borders on the ridiculous or the morbid. You both have a problem, as do all bullies, you can give but can't take it.[/p][/quote]Adeybull confirms Sutcliffe was a director. Is he a troll as you call anyone who says different to you? Why you getting upset anyhow for been proven to quote rubbish. If you don't want to look stupid don't quote stupid things as gospel. Thee Voice of Reason

6:44pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
So I read on, Wiki, on Companies House, that OK is SOLE director on buying the club. In other publications, it was stated that GS was the Honorary Chair. So, plus OK had said that he was the ONLY director. So I'm attacked for reading the wrong info. That's what Others did as well, if you read back records,. All hail TVOR he his right always, so therefore all others are wrong. But yours and TVORs obsession with Viking borders on the ridiculous or the morbid. You both have a problem, as do all bullies, you can give but can't take it.
Talking of obsession, the only one on here appears to be yours with me.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: So I read on, Wiki, on Companies House, that OK is SOLE director on buying the club. In other publications, it was stated that GS was the Honorary Chair. So, plus OK had said that he was the ONLY director. So I'm attacked for reading the wrong info. That's what Others did as well, if you read back records,. All hail TVOR he his right always, so therefore all others are wrong. But yours and TVORs obsession with Viking borders on the ridiculous or the morbid. You both have a problem, as do all bullies, you can give but can't take it.[/p][/quote]Talking of obsession, the only one on here appears to be yours with me. Thee Voice of Reason

6:49pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bcfc1903 says...

I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!! bcfc1903

6:49pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bcfc1903 says...

I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!! bcfc1903

6:57pm Fri 31 Jan 14

tinytoonster says...

Lythambull wrote:
Adeybull wrote:
btw, the headline on this article is extremely unhelpful, and is hardly neutral reporting IMO. Very disappointing.
Agreed, it doesn't take much to start the hissy fits and stern "I told you so"'s ;)

I guess all fans of the bulls are crossing their fingers that we don't get a points deduction but if that's something that comes about the only way to face it is together and head on.

I'd personally like to thank the poster who didn't know who the Bluesox were. That was Halifax a few years ago btw, and hardly cements your position as a knowledgable contributor, does it?! ;)

Also, since quite a few City fans seem to want to sully our name and revel in our misfortune I'm sure you were already aware that the Bulls have won a competitive home game more recently than you. That was last season.

So glad to see we can all stick together, eh people?
just because people do not know who bluesox were does not make his or her comments less important.
its a bradford concern not just rugby.
regardless of what the few strange bulls fans on here like to think.
most people do not want to lose odsal or the rugby.
otherwise we could end up with an housing estate or worse, supermarket on our doorstep!
better the devil you know.
at least adeybull is talking sense.
[quote][p][bold]Lythambull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: btw, the headline on this article is extremely unhelpful, and is hardly neutral reporting IMO. Very disappointing.[/p][/quote]Agreed, it doesn't take much to start the hissy fits and stern "I told you so"'s ;) I guess all fans of the bulls are crossing their fingers that we don't get a points deduction but if that's something that comes about the only way to face it is together and head on. I'd personally like to thank the poster who didn't know who the Bluesox were. That was Halifax a few years ago btw, and hardly cements your position as a knowledgable contributor, does it?! ;) Also, since quite a few City fans seem to want to sully our name and revel in our misfortune I'm sure you were already aware that the Bulls have won a competitive home game more recently than you. That was last season. So glad to see we can all stick together, eh people?[/p][/quote]just because people do not know who bluesox were does not make his or her comments less important. its a bradford concern not just rugby. regardless of what the few strange bulls fans on here like to think. most people do not want to lose odsal or the rugby. otherwise we could end up with an housing estate or worse, supermarket on our doorstep! better the devil you know. at least adeybull is talking sense. tinytoonster

6:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
Don't see how?

He was looking to sell a company that had a net worth of maybe around MINUS £1.2m, for an undisclosed sum PLUS repayment of most of the money he had put in.

Bit like me trying to sell you a car that had pretty well been written off for more than it was worth anyway, AND asking you to then pay off the HP on it.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!![/p][/quote]Don't see how? He was looking to sell a company that had a net worth of maybe around MINUS £1.2m, for an undisclosed sum PLUS repayment of most of the money he had put in. Bit like me trying to sell you a car that had pretty well been written off for more than it was worth anyway, AND asking you to then pay off the HP on it. Adeybull

7:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Adeybull wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
Don't see how?

He was looking to sell a company that had a net worth of maybe around MINUS £1.2m, for an undisclosed sum PLUS repayment of most of the money he had put in.

Bit like me trying to sell you a car that had pretty well been written off for more than it was worth anyway, AND asking you to then pay off the HP on it.
Some on here might take up that deal. The first post praises OK even though you find the club in such a state.
[quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!![/p][/quote]Don't see how? He was looking to sell a company that had a net worth of maybe around MINUS £1.2m, for an undisclosed sum PLUS repayment of most of the money he had put in. Bit like me trying to sell you a car that had pretty well been written off for more than it was worth anyway, AND asking you to then pay off the HP on it.[/p][/quote]Some on here might take up that deal. The first post praises OK even though you find the club in such a state. Thee Voice of Reason

7:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
Your right your clearly no expert.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!![/p][/quote]Your right your clearly no expert. Thee Voice of Reason

7:13pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Reading Bullette says...

Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.
Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law. Reading Bullette

7:27pm Fri 31 Jan 14

billybobbull says...

http://www.therfl.co
.uk/news/article/294
07/bulls-change-of-o
wnership-confirmed

Seems it is sorted to some extent. The original business 'OK Bulls' came into to being to save the Bulls. It did it's job. Thank you Mr Khan.

The new company wants to take the Bradford Bulls brand further. To do that it must prove it has the right directors with passion and business acumen to do just that. I believe it may have just that. Robbie is on hand to supply the passion.

As we move forward we realise this is mainly about business and money. Without the right business model and the money to support that the CLUB is going to struggle. OK has some, but not other attributes, BUT thank you Omar for stepping up to the plate when we needed a Bradford business to do so.
Let's move forward optimistically, with an eye on a Community Ownership model just in case
http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/294 07/bulls-change-of-o wnership-confirmed Seems it is sorted to some extent. The original business 'OK Bulls' came into to being to save the Bulls. It did it's job. Thank you Mr Khan. The new company wants to take the Bradford Bulls brand further. To do that it must prove it has the right directors with passion and business acumen to do just that. I believe it may have just that. Robbie is on hand to supply the passion. As we move forward we realise this is mainly about business and money. Without the right business model and the money to support that the CLUB is going to struggle. OK has some, but not other attributes, BUT thank you Omar for stepping up to the plate when we needed a Bradford business to do so. Let's move forward optimistically, with an eye on a Community Ownership model just in case billybobbull

7:51pm Fri 31 Jan 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Like Adeybull and Reading I to have not been on here for a while.What amazes me is how the usual know alls gather their information.Whilst I was recently back in Bradford guess who had a comment to write on every headline in the Telegraph.Yes,Mr T.V.O.R. with his usual claptrap.Amazing how some people know everything about everything but in actual fact know nothing.Nice to see some comments from people in the know.Thats me done now for the season.Will continue to watch on Sky over here and ignore the Telegraph know alls.
Like Adeybull and Reading I to have not been on here for a while.What amazes me is how the usual know alls gather their information.Whilst I was recently back in Bradford guess who had a comment to write on every headline in the Telegraph.Yes,Mr T.V.O.R. with his usual claptrap.Amazing how some people know everything about everything but in actual fact know nothing.Nice to see some comments from people in the know.Thats me done now for the season.Will continue to watch on Sky over here and ignore the Telegraph know alls. spanglishbull.uk

8:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

billybobbull wrote:
http://www.therfl.co

.uk/news/article/294

07/bulls-change-of-o

wnership-confirmed

Seems it is sorted to some extent. The original business 'OK Bulls' came into to being to save the Bulls. It did it's job. Thank you Mr Khan.

The new company wants to take the Bradford Bulls brand further. To do that it must prove it has the right directors with passion and business acumen to do just that. I believe it may have just that. Robbie is on hand to supply the passion.

As we move forward we realise this is mainly about business and money. Without the right business model and the money to support that the CLUB is going to struggle. OK has some, but not other attributes, BUT thank you Omar for stepping up to the plate when we needed a Bradford business to do so.
Let's move forward optimistically, with an eye on a Community Ownership model just in case
THANK YOU MR. KHAN? ffs. wake up. this is the most devious way possible of getting Rugby out of Odsal iit stinks , but it will go ahead. RIP Bradford Bulls.
[quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/294 07/bulls-change-of-o wnership-confirmed Seems it is sorted to some extent. The original business 'OK Bulls' came into to being to save the Bulls. It did it's job. Thank you Mr Khan. The new company wants to take the Bradford Bulls brand further. To do that it must prove it has the right directors with passion and business acumen to do just that. I believe it may have just that. Robbie is on hand to supply the passion. As we move forward we realise this is mainly about business and money. Without the right business model and the money to support that the CLUB is going to struggle. OK has some, but not other attributes, BUT thank you Omar for stepping up to the plate when we needed a Bradford business to do so. Let's move forward optimistically, with an eye on a Community Ownership model just in case[/p][/quote]THANK YOU MR. KHAN? ffs. wake up. this is the most devious way possible of getting Rugby out of Odsal iit stinks , but it will go ahead. RIP Bradford Bulls. alive and awake

8:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

Looks like a certain rat breeder is going to be busy breeding his resident vermin and selling them to labs and his pals restaurants in order to pay off the council's loan.
Looks like a certain rat breeder is going to be busy breeding his resident vermin and selling them to labs and his pals restaurants in order to pay off the council's loan. Alhaurinrhino

8:30pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bcfc1903 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
Your right your clearly no expert.
Yeah, probably not my best post, should have stuck to my last sentence lol
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!![/p][/quote]Your right your clearly no expert.[/p][/quote]Yeah, probably not my best post, should have stuck to my last sentence lol bcfc1903

8:48pm Fri 31 Jan 14

portugalbull says...

Adeybull wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Death by a thousand cuts. If we were an animal, we'd have been put down by now.

How can we expect the players to raise themselves for the season's start ( if we make it! ) with this continuing ducking an diving going on in the background.

I'm thoroughly sick and tired of the laughing stock that we've become.
Hardly, though.

If I was a player, provided there are no sanctions from the RFL then I would be feeling far more secure today than yesterday.

At a stroke, the ownership debacle that has dogged the club for months is resolved. And whatever the club owed to OK (because he did NOT invest in the club just loaned it money) is now history. So the financial position of his employer is improved dramatically too.

If this is structured and handled right (and it better be - there is no excuse for it not to be), then the only loss of any substance will be to OK, and maybe to any dodgy creditors that arose on his watch. Which is why I assume the club is headlining today's developments as completing the ownership change, rather than in the very negative way the T&A have headlined it. Hopefully, the club's line on it will prove to be the one that best reflects the substance of what has happened.
Good post. Hopefully NO restrictions ie points deduction from RFL as similar to takeover of Salford where creditors were transferred and got paid. New company has stated this will be the case.
Only wish we had sugar daddy amongst our new directors.
[quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: Death by a thousand cuts. If we were an animal, we'd have been put down by now. How can we expect the players to raise themselves for the season's start ( if we make it! ) with this continuing ducking an diving going on in the background. I'm thoroughly sick and tired of the laughing stock that we've become.[/p][/quote]Hardly, though. If I was a player, provided there are no sanctions from the RFL then I would be feeling far more secure today than yesterday. At a stroke, the ownership debacle that has dogged the club for months is resolved. And whatever the club owed to OK (because he did NOT invest in the club just loaned it money) is now history. So the financial position of his employer is improved dramatically too. If this is structured and handled right (and it better be - there is no excuse for it not to be), then the only loss of any substance will be to OK, and maybe to any dodgy creditors that arose on his watch. Which is why I assume the club is headlining today's developments as completing the ownership change, rather than in the very negative way the T&A have headlined it. Hopefully, the club's line on it will prove to be the one that best reflects the substance of what has happened.[/p][/quote]Good post. Hopefully NO restrictions ie points deduction from RFL as similar to takeover of Salford where creditors were transferred and got paid. New company has stated this will be the case. Only wish we had sugar daddy amongst our new directors. portugalbull

9:04pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Reading Bullette wrote:
Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.
You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks.

Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest?
[quote][p][bold]Reading Bullette[/bold] wrote: Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.[/p][/quote]You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks. Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest? Papa Smurfs Wig

9:10pm Fri 31 Jan 14

raisemeup says...

To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present.
Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only.

Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach.
We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ.
And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity.
The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year)
may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?
To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present. Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only. Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach. We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ. And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity. The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year) may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.? raisemeup

9:26pm Fri 31 Jan 14

BD16 says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Reading Bullette wrote:
Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.
You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks.

Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest?
Touch of hypocrisy from the Reading Bullette there Papa Smurf. He/She was one of those on the Bantams pouring scorn on the problems City had at the time.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reading Bullette[/bold] wrote: Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.[/p][/quote]You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks. Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest?[/p][/quote]Touch of hypocrisy from the Reading Bullette there Papa Smurf. He/She was one of those on the Bantams pouring scorn on the problems City had at the time. BD16

9:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

raisemeup wrote:
To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present.
Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only.

Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach.
We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ.
And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity.
The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year)
may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?
Best post on here today. Well said sir.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present. Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only. Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach. We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ. And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity. The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year) may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?[/p][/quote]Best post on here today. Well said sir. Adeybull

9:39pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted.

Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!!
Your right your clearly no expert.
Yeah, probably not my best post, should have stuck to my last sentence lol
But was a genuine post and clearly well meant. Which is why I said a bit in response to your first point..

I shoiuld also have thanked you for your second, generous point. Can I please take the opportunity to do so now.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I'm no expert on finance but it looks like Omar Khan has been royally shafted. Hope the club can survive, they have done the City of Bradford proud in the past. Good luck Bulls fans, keep fighting for your club!!!!![/p][/quote]Your right your clearly no expert.[/p][/quote]Yeah, probably not my best post, should have stuck to my last sentence lol[/p][/quote]But was a genuine post and clearly well meant. Which is why I said a bit in response to your first point.. I shoiuld also have thanked you for your second, generous point. Can I please take the opportunity to do so now. Adeybull

11:18pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Reading Bullette wrote:
Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.
You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks.

Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest?
[quote][p][bold]Reading Bullette[/bold] wrote: Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.[/p][/quote]You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks. Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest? Papa Smurfs Wig

11:27pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

BD16 wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Reading Bullette wrote: Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.
You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks. Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest?
Touch of hypocrisy from the Reading Bullette there Papa Smurf. He/She was one of those on the Bantams pouring scorn on the problems City had at the time.
Ah righty, well it seems the situation has become a bottom biter the other way around
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reading Bullette[/bold] wrote: Not been on here for a while but the usual sensible posters, addeybull etc are still here together with all the usual gutter snipes and sewage dwellers. Omar has not been shafted at all. He has had a lot out if the club as the administrator will prove. There will be no points deduction, all creditors, inc the council, will be paid in full. The process has already started. Onward and upwards for the 'legally run Bulls' from now on. Whitcut, Sutcliffe and Khan need seriously looking at by the law.[/p][/quote]You should have been around ten years ago when the Bulls fans were ripping into the City fans about the 2004 administration. Some would say the Bulls fans deserve everything they get and with the council always willing to help the Bulls and not City, then that stinks. Will Dave Green speak up about this debt and put the council tax payers minds at rest?[/p][/quote]Touch of hypocrisy from the Reading Bullette there Papa Smurf. He/She was one of those on the Bantams pouring scorn on the problems City had at the time.[/p][/quote]Ah righty, well it seems the situation has become a bottom biter the other way around Papa Smurfs Wig

11:36pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bradfordbronco says...

116 comments. Everyone out of the woodwork. Some new names, some old "favourites" even some old favourites under new names. Its all so excitingl!! TVOR was almost giggy at the beginning, this was his chance to point out, would you believe, That he was right and told us all so. He then got a bit more despondent when he realised what he thought was bad news, was starting to look like good news! Good posts from Raise, Adey and even a bantam (BCFC1903)showing some sense! Might review my opinion of the Harry Potter supporters

Hope the actual season is as entertaining as the off season has been. Good luck to the new guys, Thanks to them and the RFL for sitting down and sorting out the problems. We can now move forward and start to build for the future at long last. Its now up to the players and more importantly the supporters to do their bit now. COYB
116 comments. Everyone out of the woodwork. Some new names, some old "favourites" even some old favourites under new names. Its all so excitingl!! TVOR was almost giggy at the beginning, this was his chance to point out, would you believe, That he was right and told us all so. He then got a bit more despondent when he realised what he thought was bad news, was starting to look like good news! Good posts from Raise, Adey and even a bantam (BCFC1903)showing some sense! Might review my opinion of the Harry Potter supporters Hope the actual season is as entertaining as the off season has been. Good luck to the new guys, Thanks to them and the RFL for sitting down and sorting out the problems. We can now move forward and start to build for the future at long last. Its now up to the players and more importantly the supporters to do their bit now. COYB bradfordbronco

11:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Adeybull says...

I see the T&A has changed the headline from the scandalously negative one from earlier?

Better late than never I guess. But not something I will forget in a hurry.
I see the T&A has changed the headline from the scandalously negative one from earlier? Better late than never I guess. But not something I will forget in a hurry. Adeybull

12:43am Sat 1 Feb 14

Adeybull says...

And the new story, just up (after midnight...) sheds a load of light on issues raised on here.

Most significantly, that it was the moneylender debeture holder who put the club into administration, not the directors. That could prove extremely significant. I'll just leave it at that.

And that a points deduction is NOT mandatory, but discetionary depending on the circumstances. And that the board hope that by resolving the situation with the creditors, a points deduction can be avoided.,

Much more positive. MIUCH more.
And the new story, just up (after midnight...) sheds a load of light on issues raised on here. Most significantly, that it was the moneylender debeture holder who put the club into administration, not the directors. That could prove extremely significant. I'll just leave it at that. And that a points deduction is NOT mandatory, but discetionary depending on the circumstances. And that the board hope that by resolving the situation with the creditors, a points deduction can be avoided., Much more positive. MIUCH more. Adeybull

1:48am Sat 1 Feb 14

Storck says...

Plus the new article states that RFL have not yet agreed to the change of ownership etc. so we will all have to wait and see.

This could get very messy with OK getting his legal team involved, challenging the administration etc and then when the other clubs start putting their views to the RFL.
Plus the new article states that RFL have not yet agreed to the change of ownership etc. so we will all have to wait and see. This could get very messy with OK getting his legal team involved, challenging the administration etc and then when the other clubs start putting their views to the RFL. Storck

2:09am Sat 1 Feb 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Adeybull wrote:
And the new story, just up (after midnight...) sheds a load of light on issues raised on here.

Most significantly, that it was the moneylender debeture holder who put the club into administration, not the directors. That could prove extremely significant. I'll just leave it at that.

And that a points deduction is NOT mandatory, but discetionary depending on the circumstances. And that the board hope that by resolving the situation with the creditors, a points deduction can be avoided.,

Much more positive. MIUCH more.
Thank god that bag of rubbish s drawing to a close Adey.
Hop my posts helped send him on his way.
There will still be the little matter of HMRC to deal with who are owed n excess of £600k.
Even last week he was phoning all and sundry touting the sale of the Bulls for an enormous sum with all paperwork to be dealt with later.
As usual.Paperwork did not appear a strong point

For Cash of course.As usual.

You deserve a seat on the board.If you dare take one.

I can now retire.One leg short.

But happy in the knowledge that my old nemesis Sheff Bull,Viking an Raisemeup may have a future.Good luck boys.

So this is Arhmen Aleg and one leg missing Arhmen Noleg wishing the Bulls a happier future than the past few years.

If Adey has confidence In the new lot that will do for me.

Lets hope the Bradford Council loan s honoured by those who secured it.
New Labour in the wake of Pete Seegars death need to resurrect their old hymn...."WE SHALL OVERCOME"

Which the Bulls are on their way to (hip hip hooray)

And to leave some very former high profile politicians with some searching questions to be answered.Over to you Gerry.

COYB This is Arhmen Aleg signing off with a contribution to a job well done.

Now wheres that Whitcut fellow. xxx

FANS UNITE BEHIND PEOPLE ADEY IS CONFIDENT ABOUT

AND GOOD LUCK ****
[quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: And the new story, just up (after midnight...) sheds a load of light on issues raised on here. Most significantly, that it was the moneylender debeture holder who put the club into administration, not the directors. That could prove extremely significant. I'll just leave it at that. And that a points deduction is NOT mandatory, but discetionary depending on the circumstances. And that the board hope that by resolving the situation with the creditors, a points deduction can be avoided., Much more positive. MIUCH more.[/p][/quote]Thank god that bag of rubbish s drawing to a close Adey. Hop my posts helped send him on his way. There will still be the little matter of HMRC to deal with who are owed n excess of £600k. Even last week he was phoning all and sundry touting the sale of the Bulls for an enormous sum with all paperwork to be dealt with later. As usual.Paperwork did not appear a strong point For Cash of course.As usual. You deserve a seat on the board.If you dare take one. I can now retire.One leg short. But happy in the knowledge that my old nemesis Sheff Bull,Viking an Raisemeup may have a future.Good luck boys. So this is Arhmen Aleg and one leg missing Arhmen Noleg wishing the Bulls a happier future than the past few years. If Adey has confidence In the new lot that will do for me. Lets hope the Bradford Council loan s honoured by those who secured it. New Labour in the wake of Pete Seegars death need to resurrect their old hymn...."WE SHALL OVERCOME" Which the Bulls are on their way to (hip hip hooray) And to leave some very former high profile politicians with some searching questions to be answered.Over to you Gerry. COYB This is Arhmen Aleg signing off with a contribution to a job well done. Now wheres that Whitcut fellow. xxx FANS UNITE BEHIND PEOPLE ADEY IS CONFIDENT ABOUT AND GOOD LUCK **** Arhmen Noleg

2:37am Sat 1 Feb 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Storck wrote:
Plus the new article states that RFL have not yet agreed to the change of ownership etc. so we will all have to wait and see.

This could get very messy with OK getting his legal team involved, challenging the administration etc and then when the other clubs start putting their views to the RFL.
Money?Lawyers are very expensive.

I"d give up if I were he.

No point.

A pigs ear does not slice far enough to pay the court issue fee.

Laugh....out...court
[quote][p][bold]Storck[/bold] wrote: Plus the new article states that RFL have not yet agreed to the change of ownership etc. so we will all have to wait and see. This could get very messy with OK getting his legal team involved, challenging the administration etc and then when the other clubs start putting their views to the RFL.[/p][/quote]Money?Lawyers are very expensive. I"d give up if I were he. No point. A pigs ear does not slice far enough to pay the court issue fee. Laugh....out...court Arhmen Noleg

4:59am Sat 1 Feb 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

I have just read through all "Adeybulls" comments and appraisal of the situation unfolding and the fantastically positive turn out for the relaunch of Bullbuilder.

INSPIRING.

Now all cut out the arguing,cut out the nonsense and get behind this logical man who has decency and politeness and intelligence in all he offers and take this club back where it belongs.

It must have near **** broke his heart to see such talent natured and brought through by his like ,desert the club through the mismanagement and posturing of those now slowly been left with no place to go and no place to hide.

You cannot bring back Whitehead,Bateman Kop and Burgess.

Who knows if what might have been with proper management at the helm.

The Bulls look finally as if they have that chance.

I am going to bed feeling very positive at the future.

To think Omar Khan bypassed these people in favour of his own stooges.

The history man.

God bless Adeybull and long live the Bulls xx
I have just read through all "Adeybulls" comments and appraisal of the situation unfolding and the fantastically positive turn out for the relaunch of Bullbuilder. INSPIRING. Now all cut out the arguing,cut out the nonsense and get behind this logical man who has decency and politeness and intelligence in all he offers and take this club back where it belongs. It must have near **** broke his heart to see such talent natured and brought through by his like ,desert the club through the mismanagement and posturing of those now slowly been left with no place to go and no place to hide. You cannot bring back Whitehead,Bateman Kop and Burgess. Who knows if what might have been with proper management at the helm. The Bulls look finally as if they have that chance. I am going to bed feeling very positive at the future. To think Omar Khan bypassed these people in favour of his own stooges. The history man. God bless Adeybull and long live the Bulls xx Arhmen Noleg

5:03am Sat 1 Feb 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Arhmen Noleg wrote:
I have just read through all "Adeybulls" comments and appraisal of the situation unfolding and the fantastically positive turn out for the relaunch of Bullbuilder.

INSPIRING.

Now all cut out the arguing,cut out the nonsense and get behind this logical man who has decency and politeness and intelligence in all he offers and take this club back where it belongs.

It must have near **** broke his heart to see such talent natured and brought through by his like ,desert the club through the mismanagement and posturing of those now slowly been left with no place to go and no place to hide.

You cannot bring back Whitehead,Bateman Kop and Burgess.

Who knows if what might have been with proper management at the helm.

The Bulls look finally as if they have that chance.

I am going to bed feeling very positive at the future.

To think Omar Khan bypassed these people in favour of his own stooges.

The history man.

God bless Adeybull and long live the Bulls xx
Sorry I should have pointed out on RLfans.com RAB.

And on here.
So much common sense,common courtesy and bright enthusiastic ideas.

The Eleventh Earl Of Mars will forever take on different meaning as I play that famous Genesis track.

Go Adey Go.

Positivity incarnate.

I may finally lose my misanthropy with people like him in the world.xx
[quote][p][bold]Arhmen Noleg[/bold] wrote: I have just read through all "Adeybulls" comments and appraisal of the situation unfolding and the fantastically positive turn out for the relaunch of Bullbuilder. INSPIRING. Now all cut out the arguing,cut out the nonsense and get behind this logical man who has decency and politeness and intelligence in all he offers and take this club back where it belongs. It must have near **** broke his heart to see such talent natured and brought through by his like ,desert the club through the mismanagement and posturing of those now slowly been left with no place to go and no place to hide. You cannot bring back Whitehead,Bateman Kop and Burgess. Who knows if what might have been with proper management at the helm. The Bulls look finally as if they have that chance. I am going to bed feeling very positive at the future. To think Omar Khan bypassed these people in favour of his own stooges. The history man. God bless Adeybull and long live the Bulls xx[/p][/quote]Sorry I should have pointed out on RLfans.com RAB. And on here. So much common sense,common courtesy and bright enthusiastic ideas. The Eleventh Earl Of Mars will forever take on different meaning as I play that famous Genesis track. Go Adey Go. Positivity incarnate. I may finally lose my misanthropy with people like him in the world.xx Arhmen Noleg

6:22am Sat 1 Feb 14

tyker2 says...

so no approval from the RFL. It will be decided next week? i.e very close to the new season.

This is a highly dangerous situation and brinkmanship by the new Board who appear to have been untruthful in their own web site announcement since withdrawn. his appeared to be their statement initially

"BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration.

OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points"
so no approval from the RFL. It will be decided next week? i.e very close to the new season. This is a highly dangerous situation and brinkmanship by the new Board who appear to have been untruthful in their own web site announcement since withdrawn. his appeared to be their statement initially "BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points" tyker2

8:05am Sat 1 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

In neither story does it mention that HMRC have filed a winding up order against OK Bulls Ltd, only BaconBantam has linked that info.
Khan playing dumb once again in the new story.
In neither story does it mention that HMRC have filed a winding up order against OK Bulls Ltd, only BaconBantam has linked that info. Khan playing dumb once again in the new story. Thee Voice of Reason

8:19am Sat 1 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Btw do the RFL actually know what is going on, this is a strange statement on their website and one that does not tie in with all that is being said.

http://www.therfl.co
.uk/news/article/294
10/rfl-statement-bra
dford-bulls
Btw do the RFL actually know what is going on, this is a strange statement on their website and one that does not tie in with all that is being said. http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/294 10/rfl-statement-bra dford-bulls Thee Voice of Reason

9:01am Sat 1 Feb 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Btw do the RFL actually know what is going on, this is a strange statement on their website and one that does not tie in with all that is being said. http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/294 10/rfl-statement-bra dford-bulls
Yes they know what is going on with the Bulls saying what they have but all this "talking with the RFL" seems to be a bit distant.

This is what they said:

"The RFL understands that the Bradford Bulls have today been taken into, and out of administration. This is a breach of the RFL byelaws and therefore the Board will seek further clarification in the matter before considering the appropriate course of action."

Has Noleg gone to bed yet? ha ha.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Btw do the RFL actually know what is going on, this is a strange statement on their website and one that does not tie in with all that is being said. http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/294 10/rfl-statement-bra dford-bulls[/p][/quote]Yes they know what is going on with the Bulls saying what they have but all this "talking with the RFL" seems to be a bit distant. This is what they said: "The RFL understands that the Bradford Bulls have today been taken into, and out of administration. This is a breach of the RFL byelaws and therefore the Board will seek further clarification in the matter before considering the appropriate course of action." Has Noleg gone to bed yet? ha ha. Papa Smurfs Wig

10:04am Sat 1 Feb 14

mines a pint says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate.
RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.
read the article you fool it clearly states

"the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors."

you really are a tool
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate. RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.[/p][/quote]read the article you fool it clearly states "the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors." you really are a tool mines a pint

11:09am Sat 1 Feb 14

Storck says...

mines a pint wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate.
RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.
read the article you fool it clearly states

"the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors."

you really are a tool
There is a difference to working with current creditors and paying current creditors in full. If it was the second option surely that is what they would have said. Working with them suggests trying to do a deal and wipe out some of the debt.

More worrying is the statement on the RFL, I think they have put that out to refute the previous statements on the Bulls site
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: So big debts run up and wiped off again. A second clean slate. RFL won't let this slip by, expect a points deduction no matter what picture they are painting here.[/p][/quote]read the article you fool it clearly states "the board of directors have stated their intentions to continue to work with creditors." you really are a tool[/p][/quote]There is a difference to working with current creditors and paying current creditors in full. If it was the second option surely that is what they would have said. Working with them suggests trying to do a deal and wipe out some of the debt. More worrying is the statement on the RFL, I think they have put that out to refute the previous statements on the Bulls site Storck

11:34am Sat 1 Feb 14

raisemeup says...

Just a quick appraisal>
Adey, Armen is right you have been a constant and firm believer in the rightness of the cause. You have and still have the desire for the Bulls to progress , but you do not castigate others who are trying to make sense of the situation. But recognise those who are there to just take a swipe at our misfortune. I will look forward to working with you and others who represent the true nature of supporters. ie BullBuilder.
Cheers and COYB
Just a quick appraisal> Adey, Armen is right you have been a constant and firm believer in the rightness of the cause. You have and still have the desire for the Bulls to progress , but you do not castigate others who are trying to make sense of the situation. But recognise those who are there to just take a swipe at our misfortune. I will look forward to working with you and others who represent the true nature of supporters. ie BullBuilder. Cheers and COYB raisemeup

11:34am Sat 1 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
Mr Capp wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: 13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.
Why should they worry. They have had our sky money!
Because £50k each is nothing compared to £1.2m written off, twice.
Why don't you get your facts right sunbeam. Here's a clue, look at your last word - now instead of applying it to a 'written off' figure which is also incorrect, apply it to the '£50k' figure. At least then you'd be half right.... for a change!
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Capp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: 13 clubs in super league will be currently asking wtf is going on.[/p][/quote]Why should they worry. They have had our sky money![/p][/quote]Because £50k each is nothing compared to £1.2m written off, twice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you get your facts right sunbeam. Here's a clue, look at your last word - now instead of applying it to a 'written off' figure which is also incorrect, apply it to the '£50k' figure. At least then you'd be half right.... for a change! Sheffieldbull

1:22pm Sat 1 Feb 14

BD16 says...

Adeybull wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present.
Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only.

Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach.
We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ.
And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity.
The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year)
may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?
Best post on here today. Well said sir.
Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.
[quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present. Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only. Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach. We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ. And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity. The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year) may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?[/p][/quote]Best post on here today. Well said sir.[/p][/quote]Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids. BD16

1:44pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

BD16 wrote:
Adeybull wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present.
Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only.

Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach.
We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ.
And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity.
The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year)
may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?
Best post on here today. Well said sir.
Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.
200k Could keep a youth center open. But what it did was allowed Gerry and his mates to live it large at the bulls for the last year.
The silence on how a loan for a company with no financial history and is now in admin within 1.5 years was authorised is deafening.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present. Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only. Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach. We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ. And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity. The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year) may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?[/p][/quote]Best post on here today. Well said sir.[/p][/quote]Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.[/p][/quote]200k Could keep a youth center open. But what it did was allowed Gerry and his mates to live it large at the bulls for the last year. The silence on how a loan for a company with no financial history and is now in admin within 1.5 years was authorised is deafening. Thee Voice of Reason

1:44pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

BD16 wrote:
Adeybull wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present.
Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only.

Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach.
We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ.
And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity.
The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year)
may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?
Best post on here today. Well said sir.
Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.
200k Could keep a youth center open. But what it did was allowed Gerry and his mates to live it large at the bulls for the last year.
The silence on how a loan for a company with no financial history and is now in admin within 1.5 years was authorised is deafening.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present. Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only. Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach. We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ. And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity. The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year) may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?[/p][/quote]Best post on here today. Well said sir.[/p][/quote]Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.[/p][/quote]200k Could keep a youth center open. But what it did was allowed Gerry and his mates to live it large at the bulls for the last year. The silence on how a loan for a company with no financial history and is now in admin within 1.5 years was authorised is deafening. Thee Voice of Reason

7:36pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

BD16 wrote:
Adeybull wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present.
Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only.

Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach.
We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ.
And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity.
The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year)
may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?
Best post on here today. Well said sir.
Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.
I would second that Raisemeup.

I question where I would have been brought up in the back streets of Manningham Bradford 8 with Nobby and proud of it without the moral guidance of one Trevor Foster and Rob Powell at Bradford Police Boys Club and later with Jack Wheelhouse at Sedgbergh Boys Club and later Mansell Dargue at Campion YC.


Its just a pity he money was not "Grant Aided" to Bullbuider instead of given to OK to help him buy his £100 investment and run up massive debt in 12 months some of which is not even Rugby related.

You must be aware from Adeys post OK saw little in the value of Bullbuilder preferring to surround himself with failures.
Who were declared unfit for purpose by the RFL 15 months too late.

Ah the power and the glory.

Amen.
With the like of Adey back in the fold I may even start to get along with you.

You at times have tried to defend he undefendable.

Hopefully good men are taking the helm.
And we must surely agree for once.That has been long overdue x
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adeybull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: To put things in perspective I have been to the funeral of our very own Fred Robinson today. It was sad, and also happy because as Fred would have said it's a good party with all my friends past and present. Lot's of the people who mattered and who still matter to the club, were at the funeral, in fact it was standing room only. Unfortunately having read some of the posters on here today turns my stomach. We at the Bulls as supporters which includes Directors, past and present where united in the one thing that binds us all together at the Bulls and no doubt at Brad. City. ie the desire to save our community which revolves around many things in a City or a Town, in our case it's our club. So you lot, If you can't moderate your venom, please sod off PDQ. And to quote the immortal words of Fred." If it isn't right its wrong!" We are only trying to fix it for our fellow supporters, and their kids and future generations that will surely follow us in our love of our chosen sport, if given the chance and the opportunity. So I ask what's £200k in the overall scheme of things. Most councils would think it a good investment to save our kids from a life of crime (see the Keighley Cougars initiative) or them being taught the values of Heart Health and the importance of physical activity. The Bulls foundation reported 52,000 school age children has paased through the many programmes they run every year (that's 52,000 per year) may i ask all those that sit in the ivory tower of self rightness> What have you done for your City or your club, or to help the youth of the City.?[/p][/quote]Best post on here today. Well said sir.[/p][/quote]Got too disagree there regarding the 200k. That was money loaned to a business to help it trade when they probably couldn't get credit anywhere else and as such had absolutely nothing to do with promoting health or any other form of well being in kids.[/p][/quote]I would second that Raisemeup. I question where I would have been brought up in the back streets of Manningham Bradford 8 with Nobby and proud of it without the moral guidance of one Trevor Foster and Rob Powell at Bradford Police Boys Club and later with Jack Wheelhouse at Sedgbergh Boys Club and later Mansell Dargue at Campion YC. Its just a pity he money was not "Grant Aided" to Bullbuider instead of given to OK to help him buy his £100 investment and run up massive debt in 12 months some of which is not even Rugby related. You must be aware from Adeys post OK saw little in the value of Bullbuilder preferring to surround himself with failures. Who were declared unfit for purpose by the RFL 15 months too late. Ah the power and the glory. Amen. With the like of Adey back in the fold I may even start to get along with you. You at times have tried to defend he undefendable. Hopefully good men are taking the helm. And we must surely agree for once.That has been long overdue x Arhmen Noleg

12:13pm Mon 3 Feb 14

johnboy7971 says...

good result in last friendly
good result in last friendly johnboy7971

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