Queensbury councillor says ‘Give us back the £10,000 for pitch’

SITE: David Ryan (left) and Councillor Paul Cromie on the site of the new pitch that is still strewn with rubble

SITE: David Ryan (left) and Councillor Paul Cromie on the site of the new pitch that is still strewn with rubble

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

A councillor in Queensbury has demanded a rugby club repays £10,000 of public funds after it failed to deliver a new pitch.

Queensbury Rugby Club was given the money in 2009 by Councillor Paul Cromie to help develop an additional pitch at its Hill Top Ground.

Coun Cromie (Ind) and his wife Councillor Lynda Cromie allocated £10,000 – out of a joint pot of £66,600 – to the club from money allocated to ward councillors following the sale of Leeds-Bradford Airport.

But, more than four years on, the club still has not developed the pitch – although treasurer Andy Thornton insists the money has been used for its intended purpose and that the project had just experienced delays.

Coun Cromie said: “I have instructed the area co-ordinator’s office to reclaim that money because the project has not been delivered.”

He added: “The way I look at it is the fact that it has not delivered the project that we allocated the money for. So, why? Where is it? We want it back so we can allocate the money to another deserving project in the village.

“The main thing is about getting the club up and running for the kids and community. We have got to move forward.”

Mr Thornton said all the money had been spent on pitch work, but that the project had suffered various setbacks.

He said: “The pitch is not finished, and there are several reasons going back over the years.”

First, said Mr Thornton, was a boundary dispute with a homeowner nearby who claimed he owned 30 metres of the field. That took two years to resolve, meaning work had to be stopped.

Then, the club discovered that the conditions of area it was going to improve were worse than they thought.

“A couple of areas were swamped,” he said. “One lad got his Range Rover stuck and needed a tractor to get him out.”

Mr Thornton said some work was carried out in 2011, including putting hardcore and soil down, and added that the club got a donation of soil in 2012.

“This turned out to have a lot more stone in than we wanted and then the summer of 2012 it never stopped raining,” he said.

In spring last year, Mr Thornton said a digger and dumper started turning soil out – work that he said is now two-thirds complete.

He added: “There has been plenty of work done. The money has been spent and I have got the invoices but the job isn’t finished.”

Mr Thornton said the club was holding events to raise the extra cash needed to complete the work. He added: “We are hoping to finish the pitch this summer ready in time for 2014/15 season.”

A Bradford Council spokesman said: “We are in contact with the club and seeking to resolve the issues around this funding.”

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8:15am Fri 17 Jan 14

angry bradfordian says...

The rugby club's reasoning seems completely plausible, so I'm not sure why the councillor needs to go to the paper to wash the dirty linen.

In my opinion it's just further evidence that the Airport money was wasted when you compare it to Leeds' investment in a nice new arena.
The rugby club's reasoning seems completely plausible, so I'm not sure why the councillor needs to go to the paper to wash the dirty linen. In my opinion it's just further evidence that the Airport money was wasted when you compare it to Leeds' investment in a nice new arena. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 4

8:19am Fri 17 Jan 14

Mike Strutter says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
The rugby club's reasoning seems completely plausible, so I'm not sure why the councillor needs to go to the paper to wash the dirty linen.

In my opinion it's just further evidence that the Airport money was wasted when you compare it to Leeds' investment in a nice new arena.
Do you live in Queensbury angry bradfordian ?

If I were the T&A I would maybe dig a bit deeper (excuse the pun) and ask where the hundreds of thousands of money that have been wasted on an unfinished clubhouse have gone.

I believe some of that was public funds so £10k is a drop in the ocean.

Maybe the reasoning isn't as plausible as you may think.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: The rugby club's reasoning seems completely plausible, so I'm not sure why the councillor needs to go to the paper to wash the dirty linen. In my opinion it's just further evidence that the Airport money was wasted when you compare it to Leeds' investment in a nice new arena.[/p][/quote]Do you live in Queensbury angry bradfordian ? If I were the T&A I would maybe dig a bit deeper (excuse the pun) and ask where the hundreds of thousands of money that have been wasted on an unfinished clubhouse have gone. I believe some of that was public funds so £10k is a drop in the ocean. Maybe the reasoning isn't as plausible as you may think. Mike Strutter
  • Score: 11

8:34am Fri 17 Jan 14

Apollo says...

Certainly the club house and its surrounding eyesore has taken longer to build than the pyramids.

As for the ground older residents will know that it is on top of what was a tip that was a quarry so drainage is always going to be an issue.

The club needs to get the area cleaned up, sorted out and in use as a matter of some urgency. This has all taken far too long.
Certainly the club house and its surrounding eyesore has taken longer to build than the pyramids. As for the ground older residents will know that it is on top of what was a tip that was a quarry so drainage is always going to be an issue. The club needs to get the area cleaned up, sorted out and in use as a matter of some urgency. This has all taken far too long. Apollo
  • Score: 12

9:45am Fri 17 Jan 14

Old Dave says...

The bigger question is where did all the other 10k sums go from the other ward councillors?

Perhaps some investigative journalism could be done, and a freedom of information request be done regarding this.

I'd like to bet that the money given to Queensbury ARLFC is among the better tales to be told when we look more deeply into this issue!
The bigger question is where did all the other 10k sums go from the other ward councillors? Perhaps some investigative journalism could be done, and a freedom of information request be done regarding this. I'd like to bet that the money given to Queensbury ARLFC is among the better tales to be told when we look more deeply into this issue! Old Dave
  • Score: 11

9:49am Fri 17 Jan 14

Old Dave says...

my basic maths skills tell me that if two councillors had 66,600 to give away to deserving projects, and there are about 60 councillors, then its not far off two million pounds that has been given away.

The article is written as if the councillors had given the money out of their own pockets. As Bradford taxpayers, its our money anyway!!!!!!
my basic maths skills tell me that if two councillors had 66,600 to give away to deserving projects, and there are about 60 councillors, then its not far off two million pounds that has been given away. The article is written as if the councillors had given the money out of their own pockets. As Bradford taxpayers, its our money anyway!!!!!! Old Dave
  • Score: 8

10:35am Fri 17 Jan 14

Albion. says...

Old Dave wrote:
my basic maths skills tell me that if two councillors had 66,600 to give away to deserving projects, and there are about 60 councillors, then its not far off two million pounds that has been given away.

The article is written as if the councillors had given the money out of their own pockets. As Bradford taxpayers, its our money anyway!!!!!!
The money was allocated from money that was allocated to the councillors for projects in their own area, the report makes that perfectly clear.
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: my basic maths skills tell me that if two councillors had 66,600 to give away to deserving projects, and there are about 60 councillors, then its not far off two million pounds that has been given away. The article is written as if the councillors had given the money out of their own pockets. As Bradford taxpayers, its our money anyway!!!!!![/p][/quote]The money was allocated from money that was allocated to the councillors for projects in their own area, the report makes that perfectly clear. Albion.
  • Score: 3

10:36am Fri 17 Jan 14

shipleybob says...

This whole story is a joke.If you we're going to build a big new club house and 2 sports fields.Shouldnt you have the money in place.
We now have a half built club house which is rumoured to have cost over £100k.
While some ground works were being done.We have been left with a building that no one can use and the children off queens bury have nowhere to go on a evening.
Apart from asking where all the money has gone.A bigger question would be.
City park £35million for a pond.Where as if that money was used for local project to get them finished and give the children of Bradford somewhere to go on a evening rather than walking the streets on a evening.

For me we need to look at local issues rather than throwing money into the city centre.Rant over
This whole story is a joke.If you we're going to build a big new club house and 2 sports fields.Shouldnt you have the money in place. We now have a half built club house which is rumoured to have cost over £100k. While some ground works were being done.We have been left with a building that no one can use and the children off queens bury have nowhere to go on a evening. Apart from asking where all the money has gone.A bigger question would be. City park £35million for a pond.Where as if that money was used for local project to get them finished and give the children of Bradford somewhere to go on a evening rather than walking the streets on a evening. For me we need to look at local issues rather than throwing money into the city centre.Rant over shipleybob
  • Score: 2

10:36am Fri 17 Jan 14

Albion. says...

Old Dave wrote:
The bigger question is where did all the other 10k sums go from the other ward councillors?

Perhaps some investigative journalism could be done, and a freedom of information request be done regarding this.

I'd like to bet that the money given to Queensbury ARLFC is among the better tales to be told when we look more deeply into this issue!
What "other 10K sums"?
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: The bigger question is where did all the other 10k sums go from the other ward councillors? Perhaps some investigative journalism could be done, and a freedom of information request be done regarding this. I'd like to bet that the money given to Queensbury ARLFC is among the better tales to be told when we look more deeply into this issue![/p][/quote]What "other 10K sums"? Albion.
  • Score: 2

11:10am Fri 17 Jan 14

Mike Strutter says...

shipleybob wrote:
This whole story is a joke.If you we're going to build a big new club house and 2 sports fields.Shouldnt you have the money in place.
We now have a half built club house which is rumoured to have cost over £100k.
While some ground works were being done.We have been left with a building that no one can use and the children off queens bury have nowhere to go on a evening.
Apart from asking where all the money has gone.A bigger question would be.
City park £35million for a pond.Where as if that money was used for local project to get them finished and give the children of Bradford somewhere to go on a evening rather than walking the streets on a evening.

For me we need to look at local issues rather than throwing money into the city centre.Rant over
£100k ?
Queensbury Celtic cost £250 k and that's a shed compared to this palacial stone built clubhouse.

I've heard from certain people that you could take your £100k and at least quadruple it , would be good to get that clarified.

I'm sure there was a T&A article a while ago where the councillors were asking where vast sums of cash had gone.
[quote][p][bold]shipleybob[/bold] wrote: This whole story is a joke.If you we're going to build a big new club house and 2 sports fields.Shouldnt you have the money in place. We now have a half built club house which is rumoured to have cost over £100k. While some ground works were being done.We have been left with a building that no one can use and the children off queens bury have nowhere to go on a evening. Apart from asking where all the money has gone.A bigger question would be. City park £35million for a pond.Where as if that money was used for local project to get them finished and give the children of Bradford somewhere to go on a evening rather than walking the streets on a evening. For me we need to look at local issues rather than throwing money into the city centre.Rant over[/p][/quote]£100k ? Queensbury Celtic cost £250 k and that's a shed compared to this palacial stone built clubhouse. I've heard from certain people that you could take your £100k and at least quadruple it , would be good to get that clarified. I'm sure there was a T&A article a while ago where the councillors were asking where vast sums of cash had gone. Mike Strutter
  • Score: 4

12:31pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Stan the Fan says...

I've heard a few comments around the village about how the rugby club is 'run' and that considerable amounts of money seem to have disappeared over the years.
Time for a bit of serious investigative journalism me thinks!
I've heard a few comments around the village about how the rugby club is 'run' and that considerable amounts of money seem to have disappeared over the years. Time for a bit of serious investigative journalism me thinks! Stan the Fan
  • Score: 10

1:52pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Ahrmen Aleg says...

The Council and Sport England who have funded extensively should take the site over complete it as a community asset and lease the thing back to the club and or others whose membership may support ongoing maintenance responsibilities
Sounds like this voluntary organisation has hit problems in numbers able to finish the project.
As many voluntary sports clubs experience.

The few "doers"have taken too much on.

Good intent gone wrong
The Council and Sport England who have funded extensively should take the site over complete it as a community asset and lease the thing back to the club and or others whose membership may support ongoing maintenance responsibilities Sounds like this voluntary organisation has hit problems in numbers able to finish the project. As many voluntary sports clubs experience. The few "doers"have taken too much on. Good intent gone wrong Ahrmen Aleg
  • Score: 6

2:10pm Fri 17 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

Old Dave wrote:
The bigger question is where did all the other 10k sums go from the other ward councillors?

Perhaps some investigative journalism could be done, and a freedom of information request be done regarding this.

I'd like to bet that the money given to Queensbury ARLFC is among the better tales to be told when we look more deeply into this issue!
Yes I agree, lets see a list of ALL the donation by every Councillor, me thinks this would make very interesting reading. Come on T&A get your act together.
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: The bigger question is where did all the other 10k sums go from the other ward councillors? Perhaps some investigative journalism could be done, and a freedom of information request be done regarding this. I'd like to bet that the money given to Queensbury ARLFC is among the better tales to be told when we look more deeply into this issue![/p][/quote]Yes I agree, lets see a list of ALL the donation by every Councillor, me thinks this would make very interesting reading. Come on T&A get your act together. alive and awake
  • Score: 3

3:03pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Andy Senior says...

How far is £10,000 supposed to go?
Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000?
I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!!
I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities.
If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper .
All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport.
I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.
How far is £10,000 supposed to go? Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000? I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!! I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities. If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper . All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport. I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's. Andy Senior
  • Score: 9

4:04pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Mike Strutter says...

Andy Senior wrote:
How far is £10,000 supposed to go?
Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000?
I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!!
I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities.
If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper .
All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport.
I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.
Hi Andy,

No mention in your post about where the vast amount of money donated from various bodies inc public for the completion of the clubhouse has gone.

Not a good advertisement for your fundraising events when it appears that some kind of financial mismagement has gone on somewhere along the line.

Why would anyone want to donate to the club now ?

Maybe you can correct all those (me included) who are under the impression money has been wasted. How about putting up an audited set of accounts for the clubhouse works so those wanting to donate can have confidence ?
[quote][p][bold]Andy Senior[/bold] wrote: How far is £10,000 supposed to go? Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000? I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!! I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities. If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper . All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport. I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.[/p][/quote]Hi Andy, No mention in your post about where the vast amount of money donated from various bodies inc public for the completion of the clubhouse has gone. Not a good advertisement for your fundraising events when it appears that some kind of financial mismagement has gone on somewhere along the line. Why would anyone want to donate to the club now ? Maybe you can correct all those (me included) who are under the impression money has been wasted. How about putting up an audited set of accounts for the clubhouse works so those wanting to donate can have confidence ? Mike Strutter
  • Score: 6

4:33pm Fri 17 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

Andy Senior wrote:
How far is £10,000 supposed to go?
Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000?
I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!!
I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities.
If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper .
All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport.
I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.
Good luck at Cedar Court, but Cedar Court? are they charging you?
[quote][p][bold]Andy Senior[/bold] wrote: How far is £10,000 supposed to go? Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000? I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!! I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities. If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper . All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport. I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.[/p][/quote]Good luck at Cedar Court, but Cedar Court? are they charging you? alive and awake
  • Score: 4

5:52pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Mike Strutter says...

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ar
chive/2007/07/24/156
8847.Club_wins_facil
ities_boost_backing/


So over half a million quid has been spent already

Questions need to be asked as to why Cllr Cromie awarded the money after this.
http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ar chive/2007/07/24/156 8847.Club_wins_facil ities_boost_backing/ So over half a million quid has been spent already Questions need to be asked as to why Cllr Cromie awarded the money after this. Mike Strutter
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Bateman123 says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Andy Senior wrote:
How far is £10,000 supposed to go?
Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000?
I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!!
I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities.
If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper .
All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport.
I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.
Hi Andy,

No mention in your post about where the vast amount of money donated from various bodies inc public for the completion of the clubhouse has gone.

Not a good advertisement for your fundraising events when it appears that some kind of financial mismagement has gone on somewhere along the line.

Why would anyone want to donate to the club now ?

Maybe you can correct all those (me included) who are under the impression money has been wasted. How about putting up an audited set of accounts for the clubhouse works so those wanting to donate can have confidence ?
That club has had over £700,000 over the years yes over Seven Hundred Thousand Pounds. PAY the money that field is an absolute mess. Maybe I should start a petition around the village and have you lot thrown off all together
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Senior[/bold] wrote: How far is £10,000 supposed to go? Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000? I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!! I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities. If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper . All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport. I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.[/p][/quote]Hi Andy, No mention in your post about where the vast amount of money donated from various bodies inc public for the completion of the clubhouse has gone. Not a good advertisement for your fundraising events when it appears that some kind of financial mismagement has gone on somewhere along the line. Why would anyone want to donate to the club now ? Maybe you can correct all those (me included) who are under the impression money has been wasted. How about putting up an audited set of accounts for the clubhouse works so those wanting to donate can have confidence ?[/p][/quote]That club has had over £700,000 over the years yes over Seven Hundred Thousand Pounds. PAY the money that field is an absolute mess. Maybe I should start a petition around the village and have you lot thrown off all together Bateman123
  • Score: 2

5:36pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Bateman123 says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
shipleybob wrote:
This whole story is a joke.If you we're going to build a big new club house and 2 sports fields.Shouldnt you have the money in place.
We now have a half built club house which is rumoured to have cost over £100k.
While some ground works were being done.We have been left with a building that no one can use and the children off queens bury have nowhere to go on a evening.
Apart from asking where all the money has gone.A bigger question would be.
City park £35million for a pond.Where as if that money was used for local project to get them finished and give the children of Bradford somewhere to go on a evening rather than walking the streets on a evening.

For me we need to look at local issues rather than throwing money into the city centre.Rant over
£100k ?
Queensbury Celtic cost £250 k and that's a shed compared to this palacial stone built clubhouse.

I've heard from certain people that you could take your £100k and at least quadruple it , would be good to get that clarified.

I'm sure there was a T&A article a while ago where the councillors were asking where vast sums of cash had gone.
This club has had over £700,000 it's a joke give them no more money. You can get this info off the sports council etc
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shipleybob[/bold] wrote: This whole story is a joke.If you we're going to build a big new club house and 2 sports fields.Shouldnt you have the money in place. We now have a half built club house which is rumoured to have cost over £100k. While some ground works were being done.We have been left with a building that no one can use and the children off queens bury have nowhere to go on a evening. Apart from asking where all the money has gone.A bigger question would be. City park £35million for a pond.Where as if that money was used for local project to get them finished and give the children of Bradford somewhere to go on a evening rather than walking the streets on a evening. For me we need to look at local issues rather than throwing money into the city centre.Rant over[/p][/quote]£100k ? Queensbury Celtic cost £250 k and that's a shed compared to this palacial stone built clubhouse. I've heard from certain people that you could take your £100k and at least quadruple it , would be good to get that clarified. I'm sure there was a T&A article a while ago where the councillors were asking where vast sums of cash had gone.[/p][/quote]This club has had over £700,000 it's a joke give them no more money. You can get this info off the sports council etc Bateman123
  • Score: 1

3:03pm Sun 19 Jan 14

rhino14 says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Andy Senior wrote:
How far is £10,000 supposed to go?
Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000?
I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!!
I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities.
If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper .
All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport.
I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.
Hi Andy,

No mention in your post about where the vast amount of money donated from various bodies inc public for the completion of the clubhouse has gone.

Not a good advertisement for your fundraising events when it appears that some kind of financial mismagement has gone on somewhere along the line.

Why would anyone want to donate to the club now ?

Maybe you can correct all those (me included) who are under the impression money has been wasted. How about putting up an audited set of accounts for the clubhouse works so those wanting to donate can have confidence ?
You wrote about people wanting to see there grandchildren playing the sport and should help with the project rather than act like petulant school kids.The trouble with that is knowing the clubs track record such grandchildren could be married with families by the time the work is done. This as usual will have nothing to do with you that of course is in the past well i believe like many others the club should be more open with what they do, also totally transparent ie when you have the fundraising show the profits made and then give us a date for the ground to be ready. This summer according to your treasurer Mr Thornton i do hope this happens but do just in case look forward to the splendid reason why it didn't.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Senior[/bold] wrote: How far is £10,000 supposed to go? Didn't the Scholemoor a pitch which was flat to start with unlike our fields cost the tax payer around £100,000? I am not interested in personal disputes that happened over a generation ago, that have disrupted the scheme at every turn!!! I coach QARLFC and am proud to do so alongside a team of dedicated volunteers, as per last weeks article we manage to turn out 3 open age teams week in week out with poor facilities. If people are truly wanting the project completing to aid their grand children playing the sport in Queensbury they should look to help instead of running around like petulant school kids stirring to get their pictures in the paper . All I am interested in is looking forward and so are the people and community of Queensbury to completing the works on the field allowing children & adults to enjoy playing sport. I would personally like to invite the individuals in the article to attend our next fundraising event at the cedar court on Saturday 15th February as we bid to raise monies towards gaining a realistic amount of money to complete the fieldwork's.[/p][/quote]Hi Andy, No mention in your post about where the vast amount of money donated from various bodies inc public for the completion of the clubhouse has gone. Not a good advertisement for your fundraising events when it appears that some kind of financial mismagement has gone on somewhere along the line. Why would anyone want to donate to the club now ? Maybe you can correct all those (me included) who are under the impression money has been wasted. How about putting up an audited set of accounts for the clubhouse works so those wanting to donate can have confidence ?[/p][/quote]You wrote about people wanting to see there grandchildren playing the sport and should help with the project rather than act like petulant school kids.The trouble with that is knowing the clubs track record such grandchildren could be married with families by the time the work is done. This as usual will have nothing to do with you that of course is in the past well i believe like many others the club should be more open with what they do, also totally transparent ie when you have the fundraising show the profits made and then give us a date for the ground to be ready. This summer according to your treasurer Mr Thornton i do hope this happens but do just in case look forward to the splendid reason why it didn't. rhino14
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3:18pm Sun 19 Jan 14

rhino14 says...

“£727,851,00”

THIS IS WHAT QUEENSBURY RUGBY CLUB IE QUEENSBURY SPORTS CLUB HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING BODIES TO BUILD A CLUBHOUSE
SPORT ENGLAND £397.000 BETWEEN 05/08/2009 TO 20/12/2010
BRADFORD COUNCIL £160.000 BETWEEN 15/09/2009 TO 05/11/2011
QUEENSBURY SPORTS CLUB ACCORDING TO THE BODIES ABOVE HAD PUT IN £125,851,00 THIS MONEY WAS FROM THE SALE OF QUEENSBURY CRICKET GROUND AT GRANBY FIELDS AND HAD TO BE PAYED TOWARDS THE PROJECT ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE ABOVE WE CANT GIVE DATES OF WHEN THIS HAPPENED ONLY THE CLUB CAN ANSWER THIS
ALSO £45,000 FROM STOCKFIELD GROUP
YES £727,851,00
ALREADY RECEIVED AND THE CLUBHOUSE IS A LONG LONG WAY TO BE FIT FOR PURPOSE
TO VERIFY THE ABOVE FIGURES ANYONE CAN CONTACT
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION @ BRADFORD COUNCIL OR AT SPORT ENGLAND ALL THE MONEY AS GONE AND LOOK WHAT WE HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT
PLEASE NOTE THAT NO ACTUAL OTHER MONIES WAS RAISED BY THE SPORTS CLUB THE MONEY PUT IN WAS FROM THE SALE OF THE CRICKET GROUND ONLY
“£727,851,00” THIS IS WHAT QUEENSBURY RUGBY CLUB IE QUEENSBURY SPORTS CLUB HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING BODIES TO BUILD A CLUBHOUSE SPORT ENGLAND £397.000 BETWEEN 05/08/2009 TO 20/12/2010 BRADFORD COUNCIL £160.000 BETWEEN 15/09/2009 TO 05/11/2011 QUEENSBURY SPORTS CLUB ACCORDING TO THE BODIES ABOVE HAD PUT IN £125,851,00 THIS MONEY WAS FROM THE SALE OF QUEENSBURY CRICKET GROUND AT GRANBY FIELDS AND HAD TO BE PAYED TOWARDS THE PROJECT ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE ABOVE WE CANT GIVE DATES OF WHEN THIS HAPPENED ONLY THE CLUB CAN ANSWER THIS ALSO £45,000 FROM STOCKFIELD GROUP YES £727,851,00 ALREADY RECEIVED AND THE CLUBHOUSE IS A LONG LONG WAY TO BE FIT FOR PURPOSE TO VERIFY THE ABOVE FIGURES ANYONE CAN CONTACT FREEDOM OF INFORMATION @ BRADFORD COUNCIL OR AT SPORT ENGLAND ALL THE MONEY AS GONE AND LOOK WHAT WE HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT PLEASE NOTE THAT NO ACTUAL OTHER MONIES WAS RAISED BY THE SPORTS CLUB THE MONEY PUT IN WAS FROM THE SALE OF THE CRICKET GROUND ONLY rhino14
  • Score: 2

3:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Bateman123 says...

This is why Queensbury Rugby club should be given no more money. Disband them take the ground off them. Then finish the field and club house into a community centre. Not a cash cow for its committee to rob blind
This is why Queensbury Rugby club should be given no more money. Disband them take the ground off them. Then finish the field and club house into a community centre. Not a cash cow for its committee to rob blind Bateman123
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8:31pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Mike Strutter says...

Bateman123 wrote:
This is why Queensbury Rugby club should be given no more money. Disband them take the ground off them. Then finish the field and club house into a community centre. Not a cash cow for its committee to rob blind
Still waiting for a response from Andy Senior
[quote][p][bold]Bateman123[/bold] wrote: This is why Queensbury Rugby club should be given no more money. Disband them take the ground off them. Then finish the field and club house into a community centre. Not a cash cow for its committee to rob blind[/p][/quote]Still waiting for a response from Andy Senior Mike Strutter
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1:23am Mon 20 Jan 14

bobbyo says...

Oh dear, sounds more like a proper police fraud investigation needed.
Oh dear, sounds more like a proper police fraud investigation needed. bobbyo
  • Score: 0

8:19am Mon 20 Jan 14

Quennie rugby mum says...

What everyone seems to be forgetting throughout all the negative press about Queensbury ARLFC and the separate Queensbury juniors is that whilst the many many years have passed since the clubhouse first started they have turned out team after team, played week in week out and produced excellent players including Super league players without ANY facilities.
This has all been down to the good people of Queensbury and neighbouring villages coming together as volunteers to coach and provide a safe environment for the children and adults of Queensbury to play the game of rugby.
As a parent of one of the players in the junior teams I am appalled that the councillors of Queensbury take any opportunity possible to show the club in a negative manner, they should be out there applauding all the club & players for what they do for the village and the positive effect it has for the future generations.
I know that the clubhouse is a eyesore and have many of times stood of a cold wet touch line looking longingly at it and wishing it would be open for the kids to use for rugby and the residents of Queensbury for community activities but until people start working together instead of airing old grievances then sadly nothing will change.
I would like to say a massive THANK YOU to each and every parent, players, coach & volunteer at Queensbury Juniors & open age for sticking with the club and providing much needed sporting teams for the people of Queensbury, perhaps the councillors would like to follow suit, after all we are the people who put you in your positions!!!
What everyone seems to be forgetting throughout all the negative press about Queensbury ARLFC and the separate Queensbury juniors is that whilst the many many years have passed since the clubhouse first started they have turned out team after team, played week in week out and produced excellent players including Super league players without ANY facilities. This has all been down to the good people of Queensbury and neighbouring villages coming together as volunteers to coach and provide a safe environment for the children and adults of Queensbury to play the game of rugby. As a parent of one of the players in the junior teams I am appalled that the councillors of Queensbury take any opportunity possible to show the club in a negative manner, they should be out there applauding all the club & players for what they do for the village and the positive effect it has for the future generations. I know that the clubhouse is a eyesore and have many of times stood of a cold wet touch line looking longingly at it and wishing it would be open for the kids to use for rugby and the residents of Queensbury for community activities but until people start working together instead of airing old grievances then sadly nothing will change. I would like to say a massive THANK YOU to each and every parent, players, coach & volunteer at Queensbury Juniors & open age for sticking with the club and providing much needed sporting teams for the people of Queensbury, perhaps the councillors would like to follow suit, after all we are the people who put you in your positions!!! Quennie rugby mum
  • Score: 0

10:32am Mon 20 Jan 14

Mike Strutter says...

Quennie rugby mum wrote:
What everyone seems to be forgetting throughout all the negative press about Queensbury ARLFC and the separate Queensbury juniors is that whilst the many many years have passed since the clubhouse first started they have turned out team after team, played week in week out and produced excellent players including Super league players without ANY facilities.
This has all been down to the good people of Queensbury and neighbouring villages coming together as volunteers to coach and provide a safe environment for the children and adults of Queensbury to play the game of rugby.
As a parent of one of the players in the junior teams I am appalled that the councillors of Queensbury take any opportunity possible to show the club in a negative manner, they should be out there applauding all the club & players for what they do for the village and the positive effect it has for the future generations.
I know that the clubhouse is a eyesore and have many of times stood of a cold wet touch line looking longingly at it and wishing it would be open for the kids to use for rugby and the residents of Queensbury for community activities but until people start working together instead of airing old grievances then sadly nothing will change.
I would like to say a massive THANK YOU to each and every parent, players, coach & volunteer at Queensbury Juniors & open age for sticking with the club and providing much needed sporting teams for the people of Queensbury, perhaps the councillors would like to follow suit, after all we are the people who put you in your positions!!!
All well and good but where has the £700k gone ?
[quote][p][bold]Quennie rugby mum[/bold] wrote: What everyone seems to be forgetting throughout all the negative press about Queensbury ARLFC and the separate Queensbury juniors is that whilst the many many years have passed since the clubhouse first started they have turned out team after team, played week in week out and produced excellent players including Super league players without ANY facilities. This has all been down to the good people of Queensbury and neighbouring villages coming together as volunteers to coach and provide a safe environment for the children and adults of Queensbury to play the game of rugby. As a parent of one of the players in the junior teams I am appalled that the councillors of Queensbury take any opportunity possible to show the club in a negative manner, they should be out there applauding all the club & players for what they do for the village and the positive effect it has for the future generations. I know that the clubhouse is a eyesore and have many of times stood of a cold wet touch line looking longingly at it and wishing it would be open for the kids to use for rugby and the residents of Queensbury for community activities but until people start working together instead of airing old grievances then sadly nothing will change. I would like to say a massive THANK YOU to each and every parent, players, coach & volunteer at Queensbury Juniors & open age for sticking with the club and providing much needed sporting teams for the people of Queensbury, perhaps the councillors would like to follow suit, after all we are the people who put you in your positions!!![/p][/quote]All well and good but where has the £700k gone ? Mike Strutter
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