Just three out of 146 horses seized in Bradford are reclaimed

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: A stray horse A stray horse

Of 146 stray horses seized by Bradford Council in the past three years, only three have been reclaimed by their owners.

And since April 2011 the scheme to rid streets and spaces of illegally tethered and roaming horses has cost £214,755 of taxpayers’ money.

Concerned Baildon councillor and horse owner Debbie Davies asked at a full council meeting how much the Council spends each year on rounding up stray horses and if any of these costs are recovered from the owners of the horses.

And she has now got a detailed response which shows the lack of effort made to recover any of the impounded animals.

Coun Davies (Con, (Baildon) said: “I know that the job of seizing the horses has to go ahead as they can be serious danger to traffic.

“But it just seems so sad that people have animals that, when it comes down to it, they don’t really care about.

“Anyone can take a photo of themselves with their horse which could be used as evidence of ownership.

“I just fear it’s the case that people can’t be bothered.”

The information she received was:

  •   in 2011/12 the total spend was £78,532 and 39 horses were impounded
  •   in 2012/13 the total spend was £68,531 with 51 horses impounded
  •  to date in 2013/14 spend is £67,692 with 56 horses impounded
  •  in the three years out-lined above, only three horses have been re-claimed by their owners.

Explaining the cost totalling £214,755 the Council said: “The costs of impoundment operations include a 14-day livery period, in addition to the costs of the impoundment operation itself.”

During that 14-day period an owner can reclaim their horse subject to satisfactory proof of ownership, and payment of a release fee.

That fee comprises the cost of the impoundment operation plus the costs of returning the horse back to its owner. On the figures given, that means an average bill of at least £1,471 per horse.

At a recent environment and waste management meeting Coun Zameer Hussain Shah noted there was little incentive for people to pay such sums when a horse could be bought for £300.

John Major, the Council’s assistant director for environmental and regulatory services, told the meeting: “Not a lot of people come forward, but we believe this is something we have to take a lead on. We will not tolerate this sort of behaviour.”

When asked why it cost so much to impound a horse, Mr Major said the cost of manpower, vehicles, the 14-day livery period and the price of a vet check meant it was “not a cheap business”.

At the end of the 14-day period, the horses are re-homed or sold and only destroyed as a last resort, said Mr Major.

He also stressed the animals would not end up in the human food chain.

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7:15am Tue 7 Jan 14

Albion. says...

Why not just hand the job over to a contractor, they could sell them on or export them for meat? If a horse hasn't been reclaimed and a recovery fee paid within two days, the owner either doesn't care about or is incapable of looking after the horse.
Why not just hand the job over to a contractor, they could sell them on or export them for meat? If a horse hasn't been reclaimed and a recovery fee paid within two days, the owner either doesn't care about or is incapable of looking after the horse. Albion.

7:50am Tue 7 Jan 14

Apollo says...

Who is going to pay for a horse to get it out of the pound when it has no economic value - particularly given where these horses come from?

Short answer - no one.

The fact that the horses are impounded in the first place is a strong indication of the value of the horse to the owner.
Who is going to pay for a horse to get it out of the pound when it has no economic value - particularly given where these horses come from? Short answer - no one. The fact that the horses are impounded in the first place is a strong indication of the value of the horse to the owner. Apollo

8:17am Tue 7 Jan 14

Huneybunch says...

At the end of the day these horses are not all that well looked after, so why are the owners going to pay to get them out of the pound. Myself I cant see any reason for people to own a horse and then just leave it to roam about.
At the end of the day these horses are not all that well looked after, so why are the owners going to pay to get them out of the pound. Myself I cant see any reason for people to own a horse and then just leave it to roam about. Huneybunch

8:43am Tue 7 Jan 14

wobbley-bob says...

Give Findus a ring, I'm sure they could use them.
Give Findus a ring, I'm sure they could use them. wobbley-bob

8:47am Tue 7 Jan 14

yezboss says...

I wouldn't ever bother trying just sieze them and dispose. Thees people are just wasters anyway. Tatters mainly.
I wouldn't ever bother trying just sieze them and dispose. Thees people are just wasters anyway. Tatters mainly. yezboss

8:55am Tue 7 Jan 14

collos25 says...

The costs stated in the article are breathtaking there is a knackers yard not many miles from Bradford I am sure they would take them for minimul or no cost.
The costs stated in the article are breathtaking there is a knackers yard not many miles from Bradford I am sure they would take them for minimul or no cost. collos25

9:05am Tue 7 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

It,s about time we started eating horses in this Country, why not, it can be very nice. Good idea taking them off the streets, it must be pretty obvious the type of owners of these horses, so 48hrs max should be allowed, then straight to knackers yard, it would be the best for the horse in the long run.
Also I would like to see the same done for stray dogs and cats.
It,s about time we started eating horses in this Country, why not, it can be very nice. Good idea taking them off the streets, it must be pretty obvious the type of owners of these horses, so 48hrs max should be allowed, then straight to knackers yard, it would be the best for the horse in the long run. Also I would like to see the same done for stray dogs and cats. alive and awake

9:23am Tue 7 Jan 14

Joedavid says...

alive and awake wrote:
It,s about time we started eating horses in this Country, why not, it can be very nice. Good idea taking them off the streets, it must be pretty obvious the type of owners of these horses, so 48hrs max should be allowed, then straight to knackers yard, it would be the best for the horse in the long run. Also I would like to see the same done for stray dogs and cats.
Eating dogs and cats?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: It,s about time we started eating horses in this Country, why not, it can be very nice. Good idea taking them off the streets, it must be pretty obvious the type of owners of these horses, so 48hrs max should be allowed, then straight to knackers yard, it would be the best for the horse in the long run. Also I would like to see the same done for stray dogs and cats.[/p][/quote]Eating dogs and cats? Joedavid

10:33am Tue 7 Jan 14

MontyLeMar says...

If we really cared about these animals then a registered certificate of ownership and a microchip should be the minimum expected. If they really are a traffic hazzard then the owner should take out 3rd party insurance and give the horse an annual MOT at the local vet. Failing all that, give the owner 48 hours then hand the horse over to the nearest horse sanctuary.
If we really cared about these animals then a registered certificate of ownership and a microchip should be the minimum expected. If they really are a traffic hazzard then the owner should take out 3rd party insurance and give the horse an annual MOT at the local vet. Failing all that, give the owner 48 hours then hand the horse over to the nearest horse sanctuary. MontyLeMar

1:06pm Tue 7 Jan 14

shipley pride says...

Funny how it was left to the finder of an 8 Month old horse found wandering in Holmewood, to deal with, council were informed and never turned out, Police were informed, and said they'd help, the result was no help whatsoever and left to the finder and myself to find the owner, which we managed through face book. It took us 8 hours, thanks Bradford council!
Funny how it was left to the finder of an 8 Month old horse found wandering in Holmewood, to deal with, council were informed and never turned out, Police were informed, and said they'd help, the result was no help whatsoever and left to the finder and myself to find the owner, which we managed through face book. It took us 8 hours, thanks Bradford council! shipley pride

1:24pm Tue 7 Jan 14

basil fawlty says...

146 is an incredibly large number at it is hard to believe that there are so many people who have so little regard for the welfare of these animals. Incidentaly there is a large goat wandering around the Thorne Lane area off Howarth Road. It happily wanders around through people's gardens eating anything it fancies. Somebody local must own it and presumably keeps it for its milk. Unbelievable!
146 is an incredibly large number at it is hard to believe that there are so many people who have so little regard for the welfare of these animals. Incidentaly there is a large goat wandering around the Thorne Lane area off Howarth Road. It happily wanders around through people's gardens eating anything it fancies. Somebody local must own it and presumably keeps it for its milk. Unbelievable! basil fawlty

5:59pm Tue 7 Jan 14

upfieldjester says...

Sine they want to charge them £1500 to reclaim their horse or they can pay £300 for another horse its pretty obvious why they are left in the care of the council. How about just leaving them where they are rather than vacating the verge space for their next horse? In many cases these horses are ok, wearing their stolen rugs and quite happy to mow the verge saving the council a job. Most self respecting horses prefer to eat grass than run about in the road or being a 'danger' so I'd question how many of these horses really 'needed' to be removed. More like clueless council officers think they're teaching people a lesson by impounding property that can so easily be replaced...
Sine they want to charge them £1500 to reclaim their horse or they can pay £300 for another horse its pretty obvious why they are left in the care of the council. How about just leaving them where they are rather than vacating the verge space for their next horse? In many cases these horses are ok, wearing their stolen rugs and quite happy to mow the verge saving the council a job. Most self respecting horses prefer to eat grass than run about in the road or being a 'danger' so I'd question how many of these horses really 'needed' to be removed. More like clueless council officers think they're teaching people a lesson by impounding property that can so easily be replaced... upfieldjester

6:20pm Tue 7 Jan 14

cab18david says...

Give tesco a ring
Give tesco a ring cab18david

6:56pm Tue 7 Jan 14

MontyLeMar says...

upfieldjester wrote:
Sine they want to charge them £1500 to reclaim their horse or they can pay £300 for another horse its pretty obvious why they are left in the care of the council. How about just leaving them where they are rather than vacating the verge space for their next horse? In many cases these horses are ok, wearing their stolen rugs and quite happy to mow the verge saving the council a job. Most self respecting horses prefer to eat grass than run about in the road or being a 'danger' so I'd question how many of these horses really 'needed' to be removed. More like clueless council officers think they're teaching people a lesson by impounding property that can so easily be replaced...
I would put a big question mark over Councillor Zameer Hussain Shah's assertion that a horse could be bought for £300. Just watching the comments made by the Roley Stone Horse Sanctuary boss I am under the impression that the bottom has fallen out of the horse market and horses are changing hands for as little as £5. That wouldn't even cover feed and stabling for a day. It's no wonder people are abandoning them. Might all change though as we move into another economic boom and people feel richer.
[quote][p][bold]upfieldjester[/bold] wrote: Sine they want to charge them £1500 to reclaim their horse or they can pay £300 for another horse its pretty obvious why they are left in the care of the council. How about just leaving them where they are rather than vacating the verge space for their next horse? In many cases these horses are ok, wearing their stolen rugs and quite happy to mow the verge saving the council a job. Most self respecting horses prefer to eat grass than run about in the road or being a 'danger' so I'd question how many of these horses really 'needed' to be removed. More like clueless council officers think they're teaching people a lesson by impounding property that can so easily be replaced...[/p][/quote]I would put a big question mark over Councillor Zameer Hussain Shah's assertion that a horse could be bought for £300. Just watching the comments made by the Roley Stone Horse Sanctuary boss I am under the impression that the bottom has fallen out of the horse market and horses are changing hands for as little as £5. That wouldn't even cover feed and stabling for a day. It's no wonder people are abandoning them. Might all change though as we move into another economic boom and people feel richer. MontyLeMar

7:58pm Tue 7 Jan 14

alive and awake says...

MontyLeMar wrote:
upfieldjester wrote:
Sine they want to charge them £1500 to reclaim their horse or they can pay £300 for another horse its pretty obvious why they are left in the care of the council. How about just leaving them where they are rather than vacating the verge space for their next horse? In many cases these horses are ok, wearing their stolen rugs and quite happy to mow the verge saving the council a job. Most self respecting horses prefer to eat grass than run about in the road or being a 'danger' so I'd question how many of these horses really 'needed' to be removed. More like clueless council officers think they're teaching people a lesson by impounding property that can so easily be replaced...
I would put a big question mark over Councillor Zameer Hussain Shah's assertion that a horse could be bought for £300. Just watching the comments made by the Roley Stone Horse Sanctuary boss I am under the impression that the bottom has fallen out of the horse market and horses are changing hands for as little as £5. That wouldn't even cover feed and stabling for a day. It's no wonder people are abandoning them. Might all change though as we move into another economic boom and people feel richer.
can't even get £10 for a dartmoor pony. eat them.
[quote][p][bold]MontyLeMar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upfieldjester[/bold] wrote: Sine they want to charge them £1500 to reclaim their horse or they can pay £300 for another horse its pretty obvious why they are left in the care of the council. How about just leaving them where they are rather than vacating the verge space for their next horse? In many cases these horses are ok, wearing their stolen rugs and quite happy to mow the verge saving the council a job. Most self respecting horses prefer to eat grass than run about in the road or being a 'danger' so I'd question how many of these horses really 'needed' to be removed. More like clueless council officers think they're teaching people a lesson by impounding property that can so easily be replaced...[/p][/quote]I would put a big question mark over Councillor Zameer Hussain Shah's assertion that a horse could be bought for £300. Just watching the comments made by the Roley Stone Horse Sanctuary boss I am under the impression that the bottom has fallen out of the horse market and horses are changing hands for as little as £5. That wouldn't even cover feed and stabling for a day. It's no wonder people are abandoning them. Might all change though as we move into another economic boom and people feel richer.[/p][/quote]can't even get £10 for a dartmoor pony. eat them. alive and awake

10:41pm Tue 7 Jan 14

lazybeat says...

only one thing can be done, call tesco
only one thing can be done, call tesco lazybeat

7:35pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Banni2 says...

Once again the Council is taking the easy option, throwing rate payers money away.
Just set a contractor onto remove them to the nearest slaughterhouse and let them set a deal up to recover costs.

Maybe one of the scrap people could be the contractor?
Once again the Council is taking the easy option, throwing rate payers money away. Just set a contractor onto remove them to the nearest slaughterhouse and let them set a deal up to recover costs. Maybe one of the scrap people could be the contractor? Banni2

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