Property developers in talks with Bradford Council over land use

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: A supermarket is proposed for the Crossley Evans site A supermarket is proposed for the Crossley Evans site

Property developers Barratt and David Wilson Homes have told Bradford Council they are interested in building on land the authority owns, should a new supermarket plan for the area get the go-ahead.

If the ‘Shipley Link’ planning application goes through, recycling firm Crossley Evans could be moved from its home on Otley Road, Shipley, and a new supermarket, cafe and petrol station be built in its place.

Barratt and David Wilson Homes say replacing the scrapyard would bring “tremendous visual improvements” and help regenerate the area.

The Council is currently considering three planning applications for new supermarkets in the Shipley area – the one at the Crossley Evans site, another at the Cardinal shopfitters’ base at Airedale Mills and a third for a new Morrisons and 94 homes in the Crag Road area.

The managing director of Barratt and David Wilson Homes has written to Bradford Council about land on Crag Road in Windhill.

Ian Ruthven’s letter referred to a meeting between the company and Council representatives about opportunities in the Bradford area. It acknowledged that the Council is talking to Skipton Properties about its planning application for the Crag Road area.

It said: “Whilst we have no desire to disrupt these negotiations, I am, as promised, writing to you to confirm our interest in the site in the event that the Morrisons’ scheme doesn’t progress.”

The house builders have been speaking to GMI Developments, which is the firm behind the proposals to build a supermarket, cafe, petrol station, business units and new rail maintenance depot on the Crossley Evans site.

Mr Ruthven said: “We have been talking to GMI regarding its Shipley Link site and in the event that this scheme gets approval, then we think the Crag Road site would present an excellent opportunity for Barratt David Wilson to develop an (affordable) residential scheme in a very sustainable location which, taken together with the tremendous visual improvements which will be brought about by the proposed redevelopment of the scrap metal yard, could help to significantly regenerate this part of Shipley.”

Managing director of GMI Developments Chris Gilman said: “The Crag Road site wouldn’t make a very desirable residential scheme unless the scrapyard it presently overlooks is redeveloped, so this is the clear solution for bringing a comprehensive regeneration scheme to Shipley.”

But Matthew Evans, who runs Crossley Evans, said Mr Gilman’s comments showed a “lack of respect for the opinions of Shipley residents” who had supported the threatened firm.

Mr Evans said: “The weight of opinion is overwhelming in favour of the alternate planning applications, in particular that of local companies Morrisons and Skipton Properties.”

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10:29am Wed 4 Dec 13

allannicho says...

Very busy place for traffic already, heaven knows what it would be like if a Supermarket was built there.
Very busy place for traffic already, heaven knows what it would be like if a Supermarket was built there. allannicho

10:39am Wed 4 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Just give one of them a hand job and a few grams of their chossing (^^^^^^) I'm sure that sugar will sweeten the deal.

How is declaring a council official had **** on his computer a breach of the data protection act Mr Green? It wasn't a personal computer it was 'ours'

You are a laughing stock.
Just give one of them a hand job and a few grams of their chossing (^^^^^^) I'm sure that sugar will sweeten the deal. How is declaring a council official had **** on his computer a breach of the data protection act Mr Green? It wasn't a personal computer it was 'ours' You are a laughing stock. Prisoner Cell Block A

10:55am Wed 4 Dec 13

bcfc1903 says...

Looking at each plan....surely it's a no brainer that the Morrisons plan is head and shoulders above the other two.
Looking at each plan....surely it's a no brainer that the Morrisons plan is head and shoulders above the other two. bcfc1903

10:57am Wed 4 Dec 13

Albion. says...

I would favour the Morrisons development.... ..But then I'm not the one with a vote and the nudges on my shoulder and whispers in my ear.
I would favour the Morrisons development.... ..But then I'm not the one with a vote and the nudges on my shoulder and whispers in my ear. Albion.

11:34am Wed 4 Dec 13

Joedavid says...

Albion. wrote:
I would favour the Morrisons development.... ..But then I'm not the one with a vote and the nudges on my shoulder and whispers in my ear.
So your "boss" would like Tesco then like many others.
Well Morrisons must be the most expensive out of the big four. I do feel this big looking development proposal by Morroson looks like a spoiler to keep Tesco out. Also would the Morrison plan go ahead?
The Council must be sure a Westfield and Bingley (Sainsburys) situation does not happen.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I would favour the Morrisons development.... ..But then I'm not the one with a vote and the nudges on my shoulder and whispers in my ear.[/p][/quote]So your "boss" would like Tesco then like many others. Well Morrisons must be the most expensive out of the big four. I do feel this big looking development proposal by Morroson looks like a spoiler to keep Tesco out. Also would the Morrison plan go ahead? The Council must be sure a Westfield and Bingley (Sainsburys) situation does not happen. Joedavid

11:46am Wed 4 Dec 13

I'm sparticus says...

Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.
Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic. I'm sparticus

11:46am Wed 4 Dec 13

Albion. says...

Joedavid wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I would favour the Morrisons development.... ..But then I'm not the one with a vote and the nudges on my shoulder and whispers in my ear.
So your "boss" would like Tesco then like many others.
Well Morrisons must be the most expensive out of the big four. I do feel this big looking development proposal by Morroson looks like a spoiler to keep Tesco out. Also would the Morrison plan go ahead?
The Council must be sure a Westfield and Bingley (Sainsburys) situation does not happen.
Sorry, I don't understand that your post.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: I would favour the Morrisons development.... ..But then I'm not the one with a vote and the nudges on my shoulder and whispers in my ear.[/p][/quote]So your "boss" would like Tesco then like many others. Well Morrisons must be the most expensive out of the big four. I do feel this big looking development proposal by Morroson looks like a spoiler to keep Tesco out. Also would the Morrison plan go ahead? The Council must be sure a Westfield and Bingley (Sainsburys) situation does not happen.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I don't understand that your post. Albion.

11:48am Wed 4 Dec 13

Albion. says...

I'm sparticus wrote:
Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.
Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.
[quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.[/p][/quote]Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc. Albion.

2:06pm Wed 4 Dec 13

I'm sparticus says...

Albion. wrote:
I'm sparticus wrote:
Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.
Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.
I'm aware that road changes would be made for both the other suggested sites.My thought is that these changes will not come without causing huge delays during construction, nor are they guaranteed to improve the situation from what was there before once complete (as the current Saltaire roundabout works demonstrate). The Cardinal site currently has minimal passing traffic to disrupt while the development is carried out, and doesn't already have the problem of bottle-necking which could be made worse.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.[/p][/quote]Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.[/p][/quote]I'm aware that road changes would be made for both the other suggested sites.My thought is that these changes will not come without causing huge delays during construction, nor are they guaranteed to improve the situation from what was there before once complete (as the current Saltaire roundabout works demonstrate). The Cardinal site currently has minimal passing traffic to disrupt while the development is carried out, and doesn't already have the problem of bottle-necking which could be made worse. I'm sparticus

2:18pm Wed 4 Dec 13

basil fawlty says...

Albion. wrote:
I'm sparticus wrote: Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.
Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.
Junction improvements are neccessary now, before any development takes place, but I doubt that they would make a significant difference. So building a supermarket at the Crossley Evans site would surely make the situation far far worse and potentially have a disasterous impact on Shipley town centre as traffic gets even more snarled up.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.[/p][/quote]Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.[/p][/quote]Junction improvements are neccessary now, before any development takes place, but I doubt that they would make a significant difference. So building a supermarket at the Crossley Evans site would surely make the situation far far worse and potentially have a disasterous impact on Shipley town centre as traffic gets even more snarled up. basil fawlty

2:21pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Albion. says...

I'm sparticus wrote:
Albion. wrote:
I'm sparticus wrote:
Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.
Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.
I'm aware that road changes would be made for both the other suggested sites.My thought is that these changes will not come without causing huge delays during construction, nor are they guaranteed to improve the situation from what was there before once complete (as the current Saltaire roundabout works demonstrate). The Cardinal site currently has minimal passing traffic to disrupt while the development is carried out, and doesn't already have the problem of bottle-necking which could be made worse.
The current works at Saltaire, while disruptive at times, are already beneficial when no work is in progress. One example is that buses are keeping more to time. The Cardinal site doesn't have minimal passing traffic during rush hours, this has been the main point of argument of those objecting to other developments on Otley Road. Personally, I would grant both the Cardinal site and the Morrison one, but the between the lines message that comes across in previous reports, is that the council favours the Crossley site. I think Crossley's deserve better to be honest and although Cardinal wish to downsize, I think it would be easier for them to relocate than for Crossley's to. To me, the Morrison development would be the real jewel in the crown, but as I said "I wouldn't object to both.
[quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Having worked in the Shipley area since the mid nineties i believe that the best place logistically to develop would be on the Cardinal site. Both other sites are already terrible bottle necked and can only be worsened by increased traffic.[/p][/quote]Both of them are offering to make changes to junctions etc.[/p][/quote]I'm aware that road changes would be made for both the other suggested sites.My thought is that these changes will not come without causing huge delays during construction, nor are they guaranteed to improve the situation from what was there before once complete (as the current Saltaire roundabout works demonstrate). The Cardinal site currently has minimal passing traffic to disrupt while the development is carried out, and doesn't already have the problem of bottle-necking which could be made worse.[/p][/quote]The current works at Saltaire, while disruptive at times, are already beneficial when no work is in progress. One example is that buses are keeping more to time. The Cardinal site doesn't have minimal passing traffic during rush hours, this has been the main point of argument of those objecting to other developments on Otley Road. Personally, I would grant both the Cardinal site and the Morrison one, but the between the lines message that comes across in previous reports, is that the council favours the Crossley site. I think Crossley's deserve better to be honest and although Cardinal wish to downsize, I think it would be easier for them to relocate than for Crossley's to. To me, the Morrison development would be the real jewel in the crown, but as I said "I wouldn't object to both. Albion.

2:34pm Wed 4 Dec 13

joan milligan says...

tree lady. The Cardinal site is one the the best, Morrisons ticks a lot of boxes for me. No No No to moving Crossley - Evans this would be disloyal to firm who have been here 100 years the cost and disruption of moving plus the traffic involved would be horrendous. Please Councillors make sure the construction will go ahead with with guarantees in place before agreeing to anything.
tree lady. The Cardinal site is one the the best, Morrisons ticks a lot of boxes for me. No No No to moving Crossley - Evans this would be disloyal to firm who have been here 100 years the cost and disruption of moving plus the traffic involved would be horrendous. Please Councillors make sure the construction will go ahead with with guarantees in place before agreeing to anything. joan milligan

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