MPs unite in battle to save Media Museum

Bradford's National Media Museum

Bradford's National Media Museum

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MPs have vowed to fight to save Bradford’s flagship National Media Museum after a warning was issued by its parent group that it could close in the face of devastating budget cuts.

Ian Blatchford, the head of the Science Museum Group, said yesterday that if the Government’s latest spending review this month amounted to a ten per cent cut there would be “little choice other than to close one of our museums” as its structural deficit would rise from £2 million to £6m a year.

As well as the Bradford museum, the group runs the Science Museum in London, the National Rail Museum in York and the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester.

But fears have been raised about the Media Museum’s future because it spends 30 per cent more per visitor than any other museum in the group and it has already saved £250,000 since last year to safeguard its future after visitor numbers halved in a decade from a peak of a million.

Bradford South Labour MP Gerry Sutcliffe has vowed to get behind a campaign with fellow MPs, business leaders and Bradford Council, to save the museum.

He has also called a meeting with Culture Minister Ed Vaizey and Bradford West Respect MP George Galloway, who has already tabled a parliamentary motion to try to secure the museum’s future, and is planning to be outside it at noon on Saturday to show his support as part of a planned rally that he hopes will attract hundreds of people.

“To lose the museum would be a catastrophe,” Mr Sutcliffe said.

“If those elements in the London Science Museum who believe the north to be a cultural wasteland not worthy of hosting these great museums think we’ll let go of our jewels easily then they are in for a nasty shock.

“This would be a major blow to us as we are making ouselves a city of Culture and Media.

“I was annoyed that the BBC pulled out this year and believe the museum did not do enough to keep them there. The exhibits have not been updated for the last couple of years.

“This is all part of the plan to close it and take it down to London. Bradford is the most expensive one and I don’t think they will move York or the well-established one in Manchester.”

Mr Galloway described the museum as a Bradford jewel, “a timeless and unique cultural artefact which we cannot afford to lose and we won’t”.

He said: “This cannot be about cash, it’s about heritage and hope for the future. If the city centre is to revive, it is vital that investment is put into establishing a cultural quarter in which the National Media Museum will be a centrepiece.

“The museum needs more investment, not less.”

Shipley Conservative MP Philip Davies said: “I have spoken to Gerry about this and we will work closely together – and with the other local MPs – to do our very best for the Bradford district.

“Gerry and I are also both on the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee and Telegraph & Argus readers can be assured that we will both use our position on there to do our best to save the National Media Museum.”

Keighley Conservative MP Kris Hopkins added: “I see no reason whatsoever why it should be closed.

“I will be speaking to Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, with a request that the Government moves to ease any concerns that have been expressed.”

Bradford Council leader David Green said that his priority was saving all three museums and getting them under the Department for Business umbrella rather than Department for Culture, Media and Sport in a bid to access more funding.

He held crisis talks to that effect with leaders of York and Manchester councils and bosses from the Science Museum Group last week.

“We have three weeks to put forward our argument and lobby hard,” he said.

“That is what we are trying to do and not giving up the fight. We are in close contact with all the MPs and are fighting a concerted campaign from Bradford.

“There is a threat to the whole Science Museum Group if the government go ahead with the level of cuts being talked about.

“We will fight to keep the museum open in Bradford and we have been working with the museum director to see how to boost those numbers. I think locals are recognising if we don’t use it there is potential we will lose it.”

Bradford East Liberal Democrats MP David Ward met Business Secretary Vince Cable this week to garner support for that.

Mr Ward said.: “He indicated that anything science related would have a better chance of surviving budget reductions and I think it would be a tragedy if the museum did go.”

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7:34am Thu 6 Jun 13

Avro says...

Very nice of Ian Blatchford to accept a £25,000 pay rise whilst there are three failing museums on his watch!
Very nice of Ian Blatchford to accept a £25,000 pay rise whilst there are three failing museums on his watch! Avro
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7:38am Thu 6 Jun 13

realcitygent says...

maybe it would be a good idea to knock the building down,it would then fit in with the rest of the city centre,bradford has nothing to offer so maybe it maybe better to go somewhere were people will go visit it, we could open more pound shops in the building and maybe couple charity shops aswell
maybe it would be a good idea to knock the building down,it would then fit in with the rest of the city centre,bradford has nothing to offer so maybe it maybe better to go somewhere were people will go visit it, we could open more pound shops in the building and maybe couple charity shops aswell realcitygent
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7:49am Thu 6 Jun 13

Z.Raja says...

Bradford is history of the most incompetent council management of United Kingdom. The existence of such museums would have no positive growth effects on Bradford. Saving made through the closer of museum could be used to top up council management salaries.
Bradford is history of the most incompetent council management of United Kingdom. The existence of such museums would have no positive growth effects on Bradford. Saving made through the closer of museum could be used to top up council management salaries. Z.Raja
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8:00am Thu 6 Jun 13

Avro says...

Could it be that the falling viistor number is partly because Bradford is no longer a place that people want to visit?

Now if the city centre was sorted out it could be a different story, but as it is, why would anyone want to travel hundreds of miles to see a tired looking exhibition, in a city cente that has little on offer other than a free paddle in a pond, is it any wonder why visitor numbers are falling!

The knock on effect of years of Council incompetence and mismanagement is now taking its toll, and we just seem to wade from one disaster to another but never resolving any.

A £30 million+ pond at the heart, whilst all else around it rots!
Could it be that the falling viistor number is partly because Bradford is no longer a place that people want to visit? Now if the city centre was sorted out it could be a different story, but as it is, why would anyone want to travel hundreds of miles to see a tired looking exhibition, in a city cente that has little on offer other than a free paddle in a pond, is it any wonder why visitor numbers are falling! The knock on effect of years of Council incompetence and mismanagement is now taking its toll, and we just seem to wade from one disaster to another but never resolving any. A £30 million+ pond at the heart, whilst all else around it rots! Avro
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8:27am Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

Avro wrote:
Could it be that the falling viistor number is partly because Bradford is no longer a place that people want to visit?

Now if the city centre was sorted out it could be a different story, but as it is, why would anyone want to travel hundreds of miles to see a tired looking exhibition, in a city cente that has little on offer other than a free paddle in a pond, is it any wonder why visitor numbers are falling!

The knock on effect of years of Council incompetence and mismanagement is now taking its toll, and we just seem to wade from one disaster to another but never resolving any.

A £30 million+ pond at the heart, whilst all else around it rots!
still though....gives the council something nice to look at out of their windows
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Could it be that the falling viistor number is partly because Bradford is no longer a place that people want to visit? Now if the city centre was sorted out it could be a different story, but as it is, why would anyone want to travel hundreds of miles to see a tired looking exhibition, in a city cente that has little on offer other than a free paddle in a pond, is it any wonder why visitor numbers are falling! The knock on effect of years of Council incompetence and mismanagement is now taking its toll, and we just seem to wade from one disaster to another but never resolving any. A £30 million+ pond at the heart, whilst all else around it rots![/p][/quote]still though....gives the council something nice to look at out of their windows Andy2010
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8:31am Thu 6 Jun 13

JAtkinson says...

No Science Museum needs to go. If the politicians, community groups and newspapers of Bradford, Manchester and York work together, all three can and should be saved.

tinyurl.com/kzg6ej3
No Science Museum needs to go. If the politicians, community groups and newspapers of Bradford, Manchester and York work together, all three can and should be saved. tinyurl.com/kzg6ej3 JAtkinson
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8:33am Thu 6 Jun 13

DM says...

I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange. DM
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8:48am Thu 6 Jun 13

bd7 helper says...

Everything good in bradford is going any excuse
Everything good in bradford is going any excuse bd7 helper
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8:58am Thu 6 Jun 13

Mr. Shadrack says...

DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Exactly, make a start by getting down there on Saturday at 12:00 to show your support and signing the T & A and this petition:
http://you.38degrees
.org.uk/petitions/sa
ve-the-national-medi
a-museum-bradford
[quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Exactly, make a start by getting down there on Saturday at 12:00 to show your support and signing the T & A and this petition: http://you.38degrees .org.uk/petitions/sa ve-the-national-medi a-museum-bradford Mr. Shadrack
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9:05am Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Just ignore them, we see the usual suspects on here posting the same drivel most days. All the "My latest pound shop joke really funny type of stuff....".
[quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Just ignore them, we see the usual suspects on here posting the same drivel most days. All the "My latest pound shop joke really funny type of stuff....". webess
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9:35am Thu 6 Jun 13

schroeder says...

Surely the museum won't be closed for the sake of £4 million.

If the the cuts do happen then then each council could chip in a couple of million to safeguard all 3 museums.

They're all in a close promixity to each other, and people from all 3 cities visit each museum so each council should work together to resolve this.
Surely the museum won't be closed for the sake of £4 million. If the the cuts do happen then then each council could chip in a couple of million to safeguard all 3 museums. They're all in a close promixity to each other, and people from all 3 cities visit each museum so each council should work together to resolve this. schroeder
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9:37am Thu 6 Jun 13

Baildon girl says...

Such a shame if the museum goes (will be signing the petition).
Take my boys regually although personally i do find it a little tired and has been the same displays for years but they seem to always enjoy it and doesnt break the bank to take them there.
We recently went to the york museum in question and was really impressed with it had so much to offer so it would be a shame to get rid of either
Such a shame if the museum goes (will be signing the petition). Take my boys regually although personally i do find it a little tired and has been the same displays for years but they seem to always enjoy it and doesnt break the bank to take them there. We recently went to the york museum in question and was really impressed with it had so much to offer so it would be a shame to get rid of either Baildon girl
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9:49am Thu 6 Jun 13

Ingersti says...

DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
[quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION. Ingersti
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10:14am Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
[quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really Andy2010
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10:25am Thu 6 Jun 13

BertSanders says...

It will not make much difference to Bradford citizens and it is not much of an attraction for visitors. A saving that has to be made.
It will not make much difference to Bradford citizens and it is not much of an attraction for visitors. A saving that has to be made. BertSanders
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10:31am Thu 6 Jun 13

JAtkinson says...

The only way to save the museum and safeguard its future is to speak up now and make sure your voice is heard... then visit it.

No-one has mentioned that selling the London branch, which is on hugely expensive land, would generate enough income to move the London Science Museum to another city and safeguard all four museums for years and years to come.

tinyurl.com/kzg6ej3
The only way to save the museum and safeguard its future is to speak up now and make sure your voice is heard... then visit it. No-one has mentioned that selling the London branch, which is on hugely expensive land, would generate enough income to move the London Science Museum to another city and safeguard all four museums for years and years to come. tinyurl.com/kzg6ej3 JAtkinson
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10:37am Thu 6 Jun 13

Avro says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Well said Andy!

Only one of the three museums will close.
The NRM and Manchester museum have a rising number of visitors and are far better presented.

Certainly what Blatchford says about the Media museum having lost its way is fact, and considering that for the last 12 months its costs have been reduced by £250k it still has a falling visitor count, then no petition is going to save it, simply because its no longer viable as a business unless someone pumps in some serious money to re-launch it, in a hope that it works!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Well said Andy! Only one of the three museums will close. The NRM and Manchester museum have a rising number of visitors and are far better presented. Certainly what Blatchford says about the Media museum having lost its way is fact, and considering that for the last 12 months its costs have been reduced by £250k it still has a falling visitor count, then no petition is going to save it, simply because its no longer viable as a business unless someone pumps in some serious money to re-launch it, in a hope that it works! Avro
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10:44am Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning? webess
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10:56am Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
Joke?

Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent.

That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre

Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum.

But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?[/p][/quote]Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless Andy2010
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11:12am Thu 6 Jun 13

schroeder says...

BertSanders wrote:
It will not make much difference to Bradford citizens and it is not much of an attraction for visitors. A saving that has to be made.
You clearly know nothing. The vast majority of Bradford citizens would be devestated if it closed, and it was voted best indoor attraction in Yorkshire recently.
[quote][p][bold]BertSanders[/bold] wrote: It will not make much difference to Bradford citizens and it is not much of an attraction for visitors. A saving that has to be made.[/p][/quote]You clearly know nothing. The vast majority of Bradford citizens would be devestated if it closed, and it was voted best indoor attraction in Yorkshire recently. schroeder
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11:18am Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
Joke?

Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent.

That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre

Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum.

But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless
A concert venue might be viable if top acts performed for free - but they don't, they cost huge amounts of money.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?[/p][/quote]Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless[/p][/quote]A concert venue might be viable if top acts performed for free - but they don't, they cost huge amounts of money. webess
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11:26am Thu 6 Jun 13

schroeder says...

Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless
do you realise how much of a numpty you sound? you seriously think city park was created purely so they have a nicer view from city hall?

odeon looks set to be made into a concert hall anyway, without spending millions tax payers money.

moaners slate city park because they know it's great asset for bradford.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?[/p][/quote]Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless[/p][/quote]do you realise how much of a numpty you sound? you seriously think city park was created purely so they have a nicer view from city hall? odeon looks set to be made into a concert hall anyway, without spending millions tax payers money. moaners slate city park because they know it's great asset for bradford. schroeder
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11:35am Thu 6 Jun 13

justjustice says...

Surprise surprise, yesterday we have an article where they say they arent looking to close any of them yet, and today they already have a list as to why the media museum should close!

The situation Bradford is suffering must be brought to parliament, here we have a city which is being ignored and lacks funding and a competent council that the city centre is becoming a ghost town.

The media museum is one of the main "selling" points of Bradford even though it is so out of date, get rid of that and what do we have left? "Oh we used to have lots of mills in the day, they're all overpriced flats now though"
Surprise surprise, yesterday we have an article where they say they arent looking to close any of them yet, and today they already have a list as to why the media museum should close! The situation Bradford is suffering must be brought to parliament, here we have a city which is being ignored and lacks funding and a competent council that the city centre is becoming a ghost town. The media museum is one of the main "selling" points of Bradford even though it is so out of date, get rid of that and what do we have left? "Oh we used to have lots of mills in the day, they're all overpriced flats now though" justjustice
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11:38am Thu 6 Jun 13

Avro says...

webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
Joke?

Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent.

That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre

Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum.

But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless
A concert venue might be viable if top acts performed for free - but they don't, they cost huge amounts of money.
Which people will gladly pay to see in the same way that they pay to visit the Alhambra or any music venue, as it happens the Leeds arena has sold out on most of its listed events..
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?[/p][/quote]Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless[/p][/quote]A concert venue might be viable if top acts performed for free - but they don't, they cost huge amounts of money.[/p][/quote]Which people will gladly pay to see in the same way that they pay to visit the Alhambra or any music venue, as it happens the Leeds arena has sold out on most of its listed events.. Avro
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11:45am Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

schroeder wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless
do you realise how much of a numpty you sound? you seriously think city park was created purely so they have a nicer view from city hall?

odeon looks set to be made into a concert hall anyway, without spending millions tax payers money.

moaners slate city park because they know it's great asset for bradford.
An asset generates income

Please enlighten me where the pool is generating income vs cost?

You are truly deluded is you believe the mirror pool adds any commercial value

And as for the Odeon with the council running things wont ever get off the ground. 6 years ago O2 appraoched them with a cash and incentives deal to turn it into an academy but they are too stupid to realise a good deal when it smacks them in the face

With your love of the council I would actually question...Do you even live in Bradford?
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?[/p][/quote]Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless[/p][/quote]do you realise how much of a numpty you sound? you seriously think city park was created purely so they have a nicer view from city hall? odeon looks set to be made into a concert hall anyway, without spending millions tax payers money. moaners slate city park because they know it's great asset for bradford.[/p][/quote]An asset generates income Please enlighten me where the pool is generating income vs cost? You are truly deluded is you believe the mirror pool adds any commercial value And as for the Odeon with the council running things wont ever get off the ground. 6 years ago O2 appraoched them with a cash and incentives deal to turn it into an academy but they are too stupid to realise a good deal when it smacks them in the face With your love of the council I would actually question...Do you even live in Bradford? Andy2010
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11:48am Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

Avro wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Ingersti wrote:
DM wrote:
I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.
Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.
Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows

Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good.

Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated

Just another example of broken Bradford

And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless

When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really
Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?
Joke?

Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent.

That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre

Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum.

But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless
A concert venue might be viable if top acts performed for free - but they don't, they cost huge amounts of money.
Which people will gladly pay to see in the same way that they pay to visit the Alhambra or any music venue, as it happens the Leeds arena has sold out on most of its listed events..
Exactly

With its capicity the Odeon coudl be decent concert venue. Obviously not on the scale of the Leeds arena but some half decent bands could play there

Look at the "success" of the 80's do up in Odsal the other week. 10,000 attended and that was for a retro throwback event.

Obviously the idiots running the council really have no idea whats going on
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ingersti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DM[/bold] wrote: I try not to look at the comments section in the T&A as the unremitting cynicism and negativity is overwhelming and in this I havent been disappointed today. So can we please try to get behind our MPs, Council leader and business leaders and try to find a solution to this rather than constantly carp? I for one would be keen to join a positive initiative to save it rather than throw brickbats. How about a citizen's initiative to raise funding from us to access match funding and support for David Green's idea of trying to get extra funding by switching to the Department for Business. The media museum has a great deal to offer in terms of access to science and tech training and we could use this to our advantange.[/p][/quote]Quite! Its a shame the moaners don't put as much energy into supporting Bradford as they do putting it down - just imagine what we could do with all that positive energy rather than all that negativity sucking the life blood out of us (well, trying). Take a look in the mirror and see how sour it makes you look. Meanwhile, the positive people will be doing their best for the City. SIGN THE PETITION.[/p][/quote]Maybe its because all the "moaners" are sick of being positive when the local council does absolutely nothing unless its lining its own pockets or improving the view from their office windows Petition all you want but wont do the slightest bit of good. Visitor numbers are dwindling, it is losing money and its incredibly dated Just another example of broken Bradford And before you make comments like "your attitude wont get us anywhere".....well maybe not but after years and years of decline and supporting various "petitions" such as the Odeon one I feel this is absolutely pointless When a decision is made it is made....simple as that really[/p][/quote]Why then your feeble attempt at a joke at 8:27 this morning?[/p][/quote]Joke? Personally I find the council spending £30m on a pond right outside their windows as self indulgent. That money could have been spent on numerous other ventures which would not only bring on revenue but also increase the visitor numbers into the centre Odeon for example.....turn it into a concert venue and voila....visitors increase, hotel bookings go up, nightlife increases and maybe some would visit the Media museum. But oh no lets spend it on a nice looking pond which fair enough local residents can enjoy sometimes (in the summer) but in winter is practically useless[/p][/quote]A concert venue might be viable if top acts performed for free - but they don't, they cost huge amounts of money.[/p][/quote]Which people will gladly pay to see in the same way that they pay to visit the Alhambra or any music venue, as it happens the Leeds arena has sold out on most of its listed events..[/p][/quote]Exactly With its capicity the Odeon coudl be decent concert venue. Obviously not on the scale of the Leeds arena but some half decent bands could play there Look at the "success" of the 80's do up in Odsal the other week. 10,000 attended and that was for a retro throwback event. Obviously the idiots running the council really have no idea whats going on Andy2010
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11:55am Thu 6 Jun 13

justjustice says...

LMFAO so what didnt the T&A think the O2 deal was worthy to report? This is the first I've heard about it.

And yes, how could the council turn away such a large company which was willing to not only invest, but I assume restore the Odeon?! If they werent the council could have said they had to, but even if O2 still refused, isnt an occupied site which creates jobs better than a derelict.

This would have created events in the city which would have increased visitors! Seriously WTH goes on in the minds of Bradford councilors?!
LMFAO so what didnt the T&A think the O2 deal was worthy to report? This is the first I've heard about it. And yes, how could the council turn away such a large company which was willing to not only invest, but I assume restore the Odeon?! If they werent the council could have said they had to, but even if O2 still refused, isnt an occupied site which creates jobs better than a derelict. This would have created events in the city which would have increased visitors! Seriously WTH goes on in the minds of Bradford councilors?! justjustice
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11:58am Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

justjustice wrote:
LMFAO so what didnt the T&A think the O2 deal was worthy to report? This is the first I've heard about it.

And yes, how could the council turn away such a large company which was willing to not only invest, but I assume restore the Odeon?! If they werent the council could have said they had to, but even if O2 still refused, isnt an occupied site which creates jobs better than a derelict.

This would have created events in the city which would have increased visitors! Seriously WTH goes on in the minds of Bradford councilors?!
Because the T&A has a vested interest in the Odeon being knocked down and rebuilt. They have openly stated they wanted to move out of their current premises and where better than next to the Alhambra overlooking the pond

I only know about the deal because at the time worked at O2 and they saw a gap to having two academies working in tandem with Leeds. Acts would perform at both venues either on same evening or alternate
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: LMFAO so what didnt the T&A think the O2 deal was worthy to report? This is the first I've heard about it. And yes, how could the council turn away such a large company which was willing to not only invest, but I assume restore the Odeon?! If they werent the council could have said they had to, but even if O2 still refused, isnt an occupied site which creates jobs better than a derelict. This would have created events in the city which would have increased visitors! Seriously WTH goes on in the minds of Bradford councilors?![/p][/quote]Because the T&A has a vested interest in the Odeon being knocked down and rebuilt. They have openly stated they wanted to move out of their current premises and where better than next to the Alhambra overlooking the pond I only know about the deal because at the time worked at O2 and they saw a gap to having two academies working in tandem with Leeds. Acts would perform at both venues either on same evening or alternate Andy2010
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12:16pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Our whole family will sign the petition as i've just done. Personally i believe the decision was made a while back to close the Media Museum....the archives were removed from the district last year which i found odd to say the least. Hope i'm totally wrong. Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.
Our whole family will sign the petition as i've just done. Personally i believe the decision was made a while back to close the Media Museum....the archives were removed from the district last year which i found odd to say the least. Hope i'm totally wrong. Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground. bcfc1903
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12:30pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Rambo says...

I don't get it.

It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything.

Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution. Rambo
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12:35pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Stevie-C says...

Rambo wrote:
I don't get it.

It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything.

Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
Exactly. Cut our losses and shut the doors
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]Exactly. Cut our losses and shut the doors Stevie-C
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12:35pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Last figures released last year showed an increase in visitor numbers at the Media Museum. All museums that don't charge an entry fee lose money.
Last figures released last year showed an increase in visitor numbers at the Media Museum. All museums that don't charge an entry fee lose money. bcfc1903
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12:37pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

Rambo wrote:
I don't get it.

It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything.

Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
Exactly...its ok to be emotional about things like this but money isn't the answer to everything and sometimes things just run their course and you have to let go where they are no longer viable.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]Exactly...its ok to be emotional about things like this but money isn't the answer to everything and sometimes things just run their course and you have to let go where they are no longer viable. Andy2010
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12:42pm Thu 6 Jun 13

justjustice says...

Ha ha, how do you think London's museums and attractions are still open, they are failing yet because it's London they get money thrown at them from every direction; they can be the most unprofitable, money-losing museum in the entire country, but because they are in London they get a free-ride.

And these guys definitely want to move the media museum out of Bradford. With the old BBC centre just waiting to say hello it's clear that is where it will go. Why leave the "iconic" London building empty when they can keep it alive by making that the new Media Museum, and it makes sense, it is the old BBC headquarters, why shouldnt such a museum be in such a place.

Everyone wants out of Bradford, they just dont want the annoying pestering from the few locals and local papers. But when money can be made by moving, they will move. Yorkshire Bank are moving to Leeds, and for them it's a wise move, Leeds has more financial links than Bradford, business can be done a lot faster meaning lower costs and more profit.

I can bet you more people will sign the petition for the Media museum than have signed the government epetition to hold the council up for questioning regarding the Westfield blunder!
Ha ha, how do you think London's museums and attractions are still open, they are failing yet because it's London they get money thrown at them from every direction; they can be the most unprofitable, money-losing museum in the entire country, but because they are in London they get a free-ride. And these guys definitely want to move the media museum out of Bradford. With the old BBC centre just waiting to say hello it's clear that is where it will go. Why leave the "iconic" London building empty when they can keep it alive by making that the new Media Museum, and it makes sense, it is the old BBC headquarters, why shouldnt such a museum be in such a place. Everyone wants out of Bradford, they just dont want the annoying pestering from the few locals and local papers. But when money can be made by moving, they will move. Yorkshire Bank are moving to Leeds, and for them it's a wise move, Leeds has more financial links than Bradford, business can be done a lot faster meaning lower costs and more profit. I can bet you more people will sign the petition for the Media museum than have signed the government epetition to hold the council up for questioning regarding the Westfield blunder! justjustice
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12:43pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Last time i went to the Media Museum ...a IMAX 3D production...the place was rammed. Hardly a place not taking cash ... ....it certainly had not run it's course. SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!
Last time i went to the Media Museum ...a IMAX 3D production...the place was rammed. Hardly a place not taking cash ... ....it certainly had not run it's course. SIGN THE PETITION!!!!! bcfc1903
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12:50pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

justjustice wrote:
Ha ha, how do you think London's museums and attractions are still open, they are failing yet because it's London they get money thrown at them from every direction; they can be the most unprofitable, money-losing museum in the entire country, but because they are in London they get a free-ride.

And these guys definitely want to move the media museum out of Bradford. With the old BBC centre just waiting to say hello it's clear that is where it will go. Why leave the "iconic" London building empty when they can keep it alive by making that the new Media Museum, and it makes sense, it is the old BBC headquarters, why shouldnt such a museum be in such a place.

Everyone wants out of Bradford, they just dont want the annoying pestering from the few locals and local papers. But when money can be made by moving, they will move. Yorkshire Bank are moving to Leeds, and for them it's a wise move, Leeds has more financial links than Bradford, business can be done a lot faster meaning lower costs and more profit.

I can bet you more people will sign the petition for the Media museum than have signed the government epetition to hold the council up for questioning regarding the Westfield blunder!
Thats a good idea. The old BBC building would be perfect for a media museum
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Ha ha, how do you think London's museums and attractions are still open, they are failing yet because it's London they get money thrown at them from every direction; they can be the most unprofitable, money-losing museum in the entire country, but because they are in London they get a free-ride. And these guys definitely want to move the media museum out of Bradford. With the old BBC centre just waiting to say hello it's clear that is where it will go. Why leave the "iconic" London building empty when they can keep it alive by making that the new Media Museum, and it makes sense, it is the old BBC headquarters, why shouldnt such a museum be in such a place. Everyone wants out of Bradford, they just dont want the annoying pestering from the few locals and local papers. But when money can be made by moving, they will move. Yorkshire Bank are moving to Leeds, and for them it's a wise move, Leeds has more financial links than Bradford, business can be done a lot faster meaning lower costs and more profit. I can bet you more people will sign the petition for the Media museum than have signed the government epetition to hold the council up for questioning regarding the Westfield blunder![/p][/quote]Thats a good idea. The old BBC building would be perfect for a media museum Andy2010
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12:58pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Rambo says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Last time i went to the Media Museum ...a IMAX 3D production...the place was rammed. Hardly a place not taking cash ... ....it certainly had not run it's course. SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!
And the last time we were there went to see Polar Express in 3D our group of 6 were the only people in there.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Last time i went to the Media Museum ...a IMAX 3D production...the place was rammed. Hardly a place not taking cash ... ....it certainly had not run it's course. SIGN THE PETITION!!!!![/p][/quote]And the last time we were there went to see Polar Express in 3D our group of 6 were the only people in there. Rambo
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1:15pm Thu 6 Jun 13

justjustice says...

@Andy2010 which is why the Media museum will definitely be the one which will be closed when the time comes.
That and simply looking at the local economy, or the lack of it, they know they will not be making a profit here anytime soon. Would be more profitable to move it.

@Rambo This just means they need to better plan what to show. And that movie was really bad from what I hear anyway, so pretty just more cinemas were in the same boat.


Yet again it comes down to "What does Bradford offer?!"
@Andy2010 which is why the Media museum will definitely be the one which will be closed when the time comes. That and simply looking at the local economy, or the lack of it, they know they will not be making a profit here anytime soon. Would be more profitable to move it. @Rambo This just means they need to better plan what to show. And that movie was really bad from what I hear anyway, so pretty just more cinemas were in the same boat. Yet again it comes down to "What does Bradford offer?!" justjustice
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1:20pm Thu 6 Jun 13

scottie dog says...

Good god no wonder Bradford is looked upon as a no hope city with citizens like the moaners and no hopers on here, get off your backsides if you think the council is useless stand against them at the elections if you have a manifesto to do better I would vote for you, ah I can hear the usual excuse coming the main parties have to big a machine for us to compete against,losers before you start.
Good god no wonder Bradford is looked upon as a no hope city with citizens like the moaners and no hopers on here, get off your backsides if you think the council is useless stand against them at the elections if you have a manifesto to do better I would vote for you, ah I can hear the usual excuse coming the main parties have to big a machine for us to compete against,losers before you start. scottie dog
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1:21pm Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

Rambo wrote:
I don't get it.

It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything.

Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
Not sure how a museum with free entry will ever make money?

Royal Armouries in Leeds also has falling visitor numbers, not only that it's the subject of an investigation by National Audit office over its finances - guess you want to see that closed too?
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]Not sure how a museum with free entry will ever make money? Royal Armouries in Leeds also has falling visitor numbers, not only that it's the subject of an investigation by National Audit office over its finances - guess you want to see that closed too? webess
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1:25pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Rambo wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Last time i went to the Media Museum ...a IMAX 3D production...the place was rammed. Hardly a place not taking cash ... ....it certainly had not run it's course. SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!
And the last time we were there went to see Polar Express in 3D our group of 6 were the only people in there.
I'm a regular and it's been rammed 90% of the time with the odd seat spare on other occasions. The only time i've been to the other cinemas in the complex it was about half full for the film Melancholia. Personally unless Mr Pillpott was in charge i wouldn't trust the figures given, the place is always busy when we've been.... like i said SIGN THE PETITION.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Last time i went to the Media Museum ...a IMAX 3D production...the place was rammed. Hardly a place not taking cash ... ....it certainly had not run it's course. SIGN THE PETITION!!!!![/p][/quote]And the last time we were there went to see Polar Express in 3D our group of 6 were the only people in there.[/p][/quote]I'm a regular and it's been rammed 90% of the time with the odd seat spare on other occasions. The only time i've been to the other cinemas in the complex it was about half full for the film Melancholia. Personally unless Mr Pillpott was in charge i wouldn't trust the figures given, the place is always busy when we've been.... like i said SIGN THE PETITION. bcfc1903
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1:31pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition
Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition bcfc1903
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1:33pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

webess wrote:
Rambo wrote:
I don't get it.

It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything.

Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
Not sure how a museum with free entry will ever make money?

Royal Armouries in Leeds also has falling visitor numbers, not only that it's the subject of an investigation by National Audit office over its finances - guess you want to see that closed too?
but the Armouries also does a very profitable sideline in corporate do's.

Been to a couple there and were top notch
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]Not sure how a museum with free entry will ever make money? Royal Armouries in Leeds also has falling visitor numbers, not only that it's the subject of an investigation by National Audit office over its finances - guess you want to see that closed too?[/p][/quote]but the Armouries also does a very profitable sideline in corporate do's. Been to a couple there and were top notch Andy2010
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1:36pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”
Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition” bcfc1903
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1:40pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”
We heard you the 4th time
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”[/p][/quote]We heard you the 4th time Andy2010
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1:44pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition””

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Is that royal WE.....not everyones got good eyesight.
Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”” ** Is that royal WE.....not everyones got good eyesight. bcfc1903
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1:51pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Surely even if the Media Museum goes, Bradford is still the First UNESCO City of Film, it has the Alhambra Theatre, Cartwright Hall, City Park, The World Heritage site at Saltaire, The Birth place of the Bronte sisters in Thornton, Bronte Parsonage at Haworth and 6,300 listed buildings, surely Little Germany could be made much more of.

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SIGN THE PETITION
Surely even if the Media Museum goes, Bradford is still the First UNESCO City of Film, it has the Alhambra Theatre, Cartwright Hall, City Park, The World Heritage site at Saltaire, The Birth place of the Bronte sisters in Thornton, Bronte Parsonage at Haworth and 6,300 listed buildings, surely Little Germany could be made much more of. ** SIGN THE PETITION bcfc1903
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1:56pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Avro says...

26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition? Avro
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2:03pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol bcfc1903
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2:08pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
Does the one with least votes get closed down?


Game On
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]Does the one with least votes get closed down? Game On Andy2010
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2:27pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
Does the one with least votes get closed down?


Game On
You'll have to stop voting for 24 hours avro, to let us catch up.

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Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition””
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]Does the one with least votes get closed down? Game On[/p][/quote]You'll have to stop voting for 24 hours avro, to let us catch up. ** Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”” bcfc1903
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2:28pm Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

Andy2010 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
Does the one with least votes get closed down?


Game On
It's quite obvious from your posts that you're doing your upmost to talk up Leeds and talk down Bradford.

It seems you see yourself as some kind of smart Alec - Please give us an insight into your rather strange mindset?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]Does the one with least votes get closed down? Game On[/p][/quote]It's quite obvious from your posts that you're doing your upmost to talk up Leeds and talk down Bradford. It seems you see yourself as some kind of smart Alec - Please give us an insight into your rather strange mindset? webess
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3:00pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
Does the one with least votes get closed down?


Game On
It's quite obvious from your posts that you're doing your upmost to talk up Leeds and talk down Bradford.

It seems you see yourself as some kind of smart Alec - Please give us an insight into your rather strange mindset?
Fraid not I'm Bradford born and bred but anyone that's says the city is not dead in the water is kidding themselves.

Where have I mentioned moving anything to Leeds?

I yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's when the town centre was... well "ok" and the town had a nightlife etc etc etc. All this had died due to council incompetence and if you think I have a "strange mindset" for thinking this then either

1) You haven't lived in Bradford very long
2) You work for the council promoting the city
3) You have mental problems

So which one is it?
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]Does the one with least votes get closed down? Game On[/p][/quote]It's quite obvious from your posts that you're doing your upmost to talk up Leeds and talk down Bradford. It seems you see yourself as some kind of smart Alec - Please give us an insight into your rather strange mindset?[/p][/quote]Fraid not I'm Bradford born and bred but anyone that's says the city is not dead in the water is kidding themselves. Where have I mentioned moving anything to Leeds? I yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's when the town centre was... well "ok" and the town had a nightlife etc etc etc. All this had died due to council incompetence and if you think I have a "strange mindset" for thinking this then either 1) You haven't lived in Bradford very long 2) You work for the council promoting the city 3) You have mental problems So which one is it? Andy2010
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3:01pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Avro says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
York don't need an e-petition, because there is no way it will close, simply because it houses too many national treasures and its visitor count is on the increase.

It is indeed imperitive for the sake of Bradford that the Media Museum does not close, but being the least performing of all three, then I wouldn't put my life savings on it!
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]York don't need an e-petition, because there is no way it will close, simply because it houses too many national treasures and its visitor count is on the increase. It is indeed imperitive for the sake of Bradford that the Media Museum does not close, but being the least performing of all three, then I wouldn't put my life savings on it! Avro
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3:04pm Thu 6 Jun 13

rhinoshelf says...

Can't the media museum be renamed as The Black Hole?
If it can, then Bradford council could throw vast amounts of money at it like it does that other black hole in Bradford, the bulls.

Move the museum to Leeds.
Can't the media museum be renamed as The Black Hole? If it can, then Bradford council could throw vast amounts of money at it like it does that other black hole in Bradford, the bulls. Move the museum to Leeds. rhinoshelf
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3:11pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Bone_idle18 says...

On the BBC the actual story is that one of three MAY close if there are any FURTHER cuts to the budget.

There's a few if's and but's!
On the BBC the actual story is that one of three MAY close if there are any FURTHER cuts to the budget. There's a few if's and but's! Bone_idle18
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3:15pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bignozer says...

Just another nail in the coffin.
Just another nail in the coffin. bignozer
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3:46pm Thu 6 Jun 13

schroeder says...

Rambo wrote:
I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before!

people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before! people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that. schroeder
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4:23pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

schroeder wrote:
Rambo wrote:
I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before!

people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.
Yes but you can have 10 million visitors but if they dont spend any money when there it makes no difference whatsoever
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before! people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.[/p][/quote]Yes but you can have 10 million visitors but if they dont spend any money when there it makes no difference whatsoever Andy2010
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4:31pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Pondlover says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition””

**
Is that royal WE.....not everyones got good eyesight.
I think we have been here before...........a daft name has caused the "lost focus" of the "Media" museum. I totally agree about the Odeon but just call it what is would be, The Bradford Concert and Conference Centre!

It won't attract big acts, Leeds Arena now has those tied up, but, there are many many acts, the next tier down, it would be great to see peopel travelling by train TO Bradford FROM Leeds for a night out for once.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”” ** Is that royal WE.....not everyones got good eyesight.[/p][/quote]I think we have been here before...........a daft name has caused the "lost focus" of the "Media" museum. I totally agree about the Odeon but just call it what is would be, The Bradford Concert and Conference Centre! It won't attract big acts, Leeds Arena now has those tied up, but, there are many many acts, the next tier down, it would be great to see peopel travelling by train TO Bradford FROM Leeds for a night out for once. Pondlover
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4:38pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Pondlover says...

schroeder wrote:
Rambo wrote:
I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before!

people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.
But the previous years drops were 12% & 18%, last years small increase was 0.5%. (I think?) But at least that is good news.

It's tired, when was the last major new permanent display, 2006? I think the visitor drop will be mostly from local people, after all, it's all "new" to school trips. I can't see the locals making increased visits without new displays. (Investment)
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before! people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.[/p][/quote]But the previous years drops were 12% & 18%, last years small increase was 0.5%. (I think?) But at least that is good news. It's tired, when was the last major new permanent display, 2006? I think the visitor drop will be mostly from local people, after all, it's all "new" to school trips. I can't see the locals making increased visits without new displays. (Investment) Pondlover
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4:40pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Pondlover says...

PS Should have said, they need to change the name back ASAP, "Media" is a millstone around it's neck and a name it can never ever live up to, it's like a dog chasing it's tail.
PS Should have said, they need to change the name back ASAP, "Media" is a millstone around it's neck and a name it can never ever live up to, it's like a dog chasing it's tail. Pondlover
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5:08pm Thu 6 Jun 13

BertSanders says...

schroeder wrote:
BertSanders wrote:
It will not make much difference to Bradford citizens and it is not much of an attraction for visitors. A saving that has to be made.
You clearly know nothing. The vast majority of Bradford citizens would be devestated if it closed, and it was voted best indoor attraction in Yorkshire recently.
True I know nothing - except I feel that users should pay an entrance fee of 4m to cover the loss, and that the money saved might be used in a more purposeful direction. Many Bradford citizens are devestated already and cannot afford leisure events.
It is preferable that it remains open - but in no way critical.
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BertSanders[/bold] wrote: It will not make much difference to Bradford citizens and it is not much of an attraction for visitors. A saving that has to be made.[/p][/quote]You clearly know nothing. The vast majority of Bradford citizens would be devestated if it closed, and it was voted best indoor attraction in Yorkshire recently.[/p][/quote]True I know nothing - except I feel that users should pay an entrance fee of 4m to cover the loss, and that the money saved might be used in a more purposeful direction. Many Bradford citizens are devestated already and cannot afford leisure events. It is preferable that it remains open - but in no way critical. BertSanders
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5:20pm Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition. webess
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5:42pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

webess wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.
Doesn't matter which is signed as make no difference whatsoever
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter which is signed as make no difference whatsoever Andy2010
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5:50pm Thu 6 Jun 13

saleemy says...

Crapford does it again!

What will they do with the empty building, convert it into flats for more eastern europeans and drug dealers to use.

On a srrious note though, its like shutting down every single curry house or fast food dive in bradford.its part of bradford and if we lose it we are losing a part of whats left in our once great now crappy city.

People dont want to visit beadford "you mean lets go to thst s**t city thsts full of pa**s and poles" "no thanks"

3/4 of the city are dole dossers and half of them sre druggies so whos gonna go there?

They should get them red bus's that are used for tours and do dole dossing and drug and alcy spotting rides.
Crapford does it again! What will they do with the empty building, convert it into flats for more eastern europeans and drug dealers to use. On a srrious note though, its like shutting down every single curry house or fast food dive in bradford.its part of bradford and if we lose it we are losing a part of whats left in our once great now crappy city. People dont want to visit beadford "you mean lets go to thst s**t city thsts full of pa**s and poles" "no thanks" 3/4 of the city are dole dossers and half of them sre druggies so whos gonna go there? They should get them red bus's that are used for tours and do dole dossing and drug and alcy spotting rides. saleemy
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6:02pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Rambo says...

schroeder wrote:
Rambo wrote:
I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.
It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before!

people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.
I said last night it wouldn't surprise me if the total visitor figures are made up of Imax, Pictureville and Film Festival attendess.

If the figures are so high, one of top places out of London. etc. then surely it should have no problem getting at least some of the funds it need from generous donors/sponsors/comp
anies etc?

Like I said, I won't blindly sign a petition with no basis whatsoever. If the place is hemorrhaging money then the way it is run or funded must change, if a suggestion is given I would support it.
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. It's losing money, visitors are dropping... Unless there is a clear plan as how to save the Museum other than just throwing money at it I won't be signing anything. Even though cuts are being made which is out of their control, pumping money into something with dwindling visitor figures is not a solution.[/p][/quote]It had half a million visitors last year, hardly a "dwindling" figure, and that's up from the year before! people are comparing figures from the record high of 12 years ago and say visitors have halved without realising that was the year when it first became a free museum! so it obviously it had an influx of visitors because of that.[/p][/quote]I said last night it wouldn't surprise me if the total visitor figures are made up of Imax, Pictureville and Film Festival attendess. If the figures are so high, one of top places out of London. etc. then surely it should have no problem getting at least some of the funds it need from generous donors/sponsors/comp anies etc? Like I said, I won't blindly sign a petition with no basis whatsoever. If the place is hemorrhaging money then the way it is run or funded must change, if a suggestion is given I would support it. Rambo
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6:48pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
Does the one with least votes get closed down?


Game On
It's quite obvious from your posts that you're doing your upmost to talk up Leeds and talk down Bradford.

It seems you see yourself as some kind of smart Alec - Please give us an insight into your rather strange mindset?
Fraid not I'm Bradford born and bred but anyone that's says the city is not dead in the water is kidding themselves.

Where have I mentioned moving anything to Leeds?

I yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's when the town centre was... well "ok" and the town had a nightlife etc etc etc. All this had died due to council incompetence and if you think I have a "strange mindset" for thinking this then either

1) You haven't lived in Bradford very long
2) You work for the council promoting the city
3) You have mental problems

So which one is it?
How can Bradford be dead, it has an economy of 8.3 billion... and is forcast to be over 9 billion by 2016... on a par with Sheffield ....is that city also dead.

**

Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]Does the one with least votes get closed down? Game On[/p][/quote]It's quite obvious from your posts that you're doing your upmost to talk up Leeds and talk down Bradford. It seems you see yourself as some kind of smart Alec - Please give us an insight into your rather strange mindset?[/p][/quote]Fraid not I'm Bradford born and bred but anyone that's says the city is not dead in the water is kidding themselves. Where have I mentioned moving anything to Leeds? I yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's when the town centre was... well "ok" and the town had a nightlife etc etc etc. All this had died due to council incompetence and if you think I have a "strange mindset" for thinking this then either 1) You haven't lived in Bradford very long 2) You work for the council promoting the city 3) You have mental problems So which one is it?[/p][/quote]How can Bradford be dead, it has an economy of 8.3 billion... and is forcast to be over 9 billion by 2016... on a par with Sheffield ....is that city also dead. ** Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition” bcfc1903
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6:50pm Thu 6 Jun 13

chard501 says...

There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre. chard501
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6:57pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

Avro wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol
York don't need an e-petition, because there is no way it will close, simply because it houses too many national treasures and its visitor count is on the increase.

It is indeed imperitive for the sake of Bradford that the Media Museum does not close, but being the least performing of all three, then I wouldn't put my life savings on it!
The last figures released by the Media Museum last year also said visitor number were increasing, i don't want any of the museums in question to close. The whole thing is a complete farce...remember what Cameron said before the last general election, i'm **** sure he never mentioned closing the Media Museum..the fella's like all the rest are.. full of it. Thankfully i resisted voting for him...trouble is we've got a Leeds fan in charge of the Labour party, only a bufoon would admit to that, thousands of lost votes in Bradford alone. Deary me.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]Probably about 26,001.....come on they seem to be up and running before Bradford....how many have York got lol[/p][/quote]York don't need an e-petition, because there is no way it will close, simply because it houses too many national treasures and its visitor count is on the increase. It is indeed imperitive for the sake of Bradford that the Media Museum does not close, but being the least performing of all three, then I wouldn't put my life savings on it![/p][/quote]The last figures released by the Media Museum last year also said visitor number were increasing, i don't want any of the museums in question to close. The whole thing is a complete farce...remember what Cameron said before the last general election, i'm **** sure he never mentioned closing the Media Museum..the fella's like all the rest are.. full of it. Thankfully i resisted voting for him...trouble is we've got a Leeds fan in charge of the Labour party, only a bufoon would admit to that, thousands of lost votes in Bradford alone. Deary me. bcfc1903
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7:12pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
We've been regular visitors to the IMAX and the Media Museum has always been spotless and modern, we've been probably over a hundred times to various films and there hasn't been one incident, although i'm sure you can get them at all museums. Cannot understand why just on the films alone there isn't some sort of finance coming back to the Museum, it just doesn't add up. The new Star Trek movie is doing great business and it's far from cheap when looking at prices for admission to the Bradford mutiplex's.
[quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]We've been regular visitors to the IMAX and the Media Museum has always been spotless and modern, we've been probably over a hundred times to various films and there hasn't been one incident, although i'm sure you can get them at all museums. Cannot understand why just on the films alone there isn't some sort of finance coming back to the Museum, it just doesn't add up. The new Star Trek movie is doing great business and it's far from cheap when looking at prices for admission to the Bradford mutiplex's. bcfc1903
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7:15pm Thu 6 Jun 13

ravacity says...

chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
[quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt". ravacity
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7:30pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
Obviously the actual economy of the city is booming...as i said it's worth per annum 8.3 billion ...on a par with Sheffield. The city centre isn't great, if the Media museum closes there needs to be some hard work regarding the Odeon....it's not rocket science is it. Bradford didn't always have the media museum, it needs to get a refurbished Odeon up and running quickly, we need to help ourselves.

**
Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition”
[quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]Obviously the actual economy of the city is booming...as i said it's worth per annum 8.3 billion ...on a par with Sheffield. The city centre isn't great, if the Media museum closes there needs to be some hard work regarding the Odeon....it's not rocket science is it. Bradford didn't always have the media museum, it needs to get a refurbished Odeon up and running quickly, we need to help ourselves. ** Whatever happens it's absolutely imperitive that the Odeon is refurbished and made into a world class concert and conference centre. Call it the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe after the German/ German Jewish community who got little credit for the immense work they did in building Bradford from a town to a great city. Now is not the time to feel sorry for ourselves, Bradford needs strong leaders getting this project off the ground.” Sign the Petition” bcfc1903
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7:43pm Thu 6 Jun 13

ishtiaq.zahir says...

It shouldn't be allowed to close! If the politicians are worth their salt then this is an opportunity for them to do something useful locally.
It shouldn't be allowed to close! If the politicians are worth their salt then this is an opportunity for them to do something useful locally. ishtiaq.zahir
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8:12pm Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
Whenever there's bad news in the City, there's often posters coming out of the woodwork gloating over the matter.

I remember when the bakery on Gain Lane shut down a few years back there were a number posters taking the mick, yet when it re-opened a few months later there were about three comments, including one about Westfield.

Interesting thing is that it's often the native born Bradfordians who're the biggest whiners. They seem to over look the fact that people arrive in the city and grasp the opportunities (which are there)
[quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]Whenever there's bad news in the City, there's often posters coming out of the woodwork gloating over the matter. I remember when the bakery on Gain Lane shut down a few years back there were a number posters taking the mick, yet when it re-opened a few months later there were about three comments, including one about Westfield. Interesting thing is that it's often the native born Bradfordians who're the biggest whiners. They seem to over look the fact that people arrive in the city and grasp the opportunities (which are there) webess
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8:13pm Thu 6 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

ishtiaq.zahir wrote:
It shouldn't be allowed to close! If the politicians are worth their salt then this is an opportunity for them to do something useful locally.
Well said Ishtiaq, hopefully just for once our MP's will do a service for the city .. earn their wage and save the Media Museum.
[quote][p][bold]ishtiaq.zahir[/bold] wrote: It shouldn't be allowed to close! If the politicians are worth their salt then this is an opportunity for them to do something useful locally.[/p][/quote]Well said Ishtiaq, hopefully just for once our MP's will do a service for the city .. earn their wage and save the Media Museum. bcfc1903
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8:22pm Thu 6 Jun 13

webess says...

Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.
Doesn't matter which is signed as make no difference whatsoever
How come you've found the energy to post regarding this issue umpteen times today , but can't find time to sign a petition on the matter?

Some here think you want actually the MM to close so can wallow in a scouse-esque manner ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter which is signed as make no difference whatsoever[/p][/quote]How come you've found the energy to post regarding this issue umpteen times today , but can't find time to sign a petition on the matter? Some here think you want actually the MM to close so can wallow in a scouse-esque manner ;-) webess
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9:03am Fri 7 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
webess wrote:
Avro wrote:
26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition!

How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.
Doesn't matter which is signed as make no difference whatsoever
How come you've found the energy to post regarding this issue umpteen times today , but can't find time to sign a petition on the matter?

Some here think you want actually the MM to close so can wallow in a scouse-esque manner ;-)
Because I know a dead cause when I see one.

Fact is the museum is losing money and is very very dated

I dont just sign a petition for the sake of it do you?

As for if it closes then so be it. The City is long past dead now and if you think that some poor miserable attempt at lobbying the government with a 20k signed petition makes the slightest bit of difference then you are deluded

Top and bottom of it is sign all the petitions you want, lobby your MP's, march on Downing Street.....if a decision is already made or is going to be to shut it...it will shut
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: 26,000 in 24 hours have signed the Manchester Science museum petition! How many have signed the Bradford Media museum petition?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if some of the losers who post on here had signed the Manchester instead of Bradford petition.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter which is signed as make no difference whatsoever[/p][/quote]How come you've found the energy to post regarding this issue umpteen times today , but can't find time to sign a petition on the matter? Some here think you want actually the MM to close so can wallow in a scouse-esque manner ;-)[/p][/quote]Because I know a dead cause when I see one. Fact is the museum is losing money and is very very dated I dont just sign a petition for the sake of it do you? As for if it closes then so be it. The City is long past dead now and if you think that some poor miserable attempt at lobbying the government with a 20k signed petition makes the slightest bit of difference then you are deluded Top and bottom of it is sign all the petitions you want, lobby your MP's, march on Downing Street.....if a decision is already made or is going to be to shut it...it will shut Andy2010
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9:09am Fri 7 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
After two decades of change for the worst in the city yes I would say the people of Bradford can and are allowed a moan about things. Are you suggesting people should only post if they have something positive to say about Bradford.....if thats the case you might as well shut these boards down now as they will be no comments at all.

And no no one is reveling in Bradford's demise. But like I said after two decades of limitless immigration and the destruction of business and retail in the town the positiveness kinda gets kicks out of ya

Another old Bradford saying "flogging a dead horse"
[quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]After two decades of change for the worst in the city yes I would say the people of Bradford can and are allowed a moan about things. Are you suggesting people should only post if they have something positive to say about Bradford.....if thats the case you might as well shut these boards down now as they will be no comments at all. And no no one is reveling in Bradford's demise. But like I said after two decades of limitless immigration and the destruction of business and retail in the town the positiveness kinda gets kicks out of ya Another old Bradford saying "flogging a dead horse" Andy2010
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11:00am Mon 10 Jun 13

Oldwestbowling says...

ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
If you think that reading some of these comments is more upsetting than Bradford's decline....then you need your head read. You clearly don't know the City as it used to be or you wouldn't make such daft, over dramatised comments. As a Bradfordian who has lived here for over 60 years no comment could be more upsetting than the comparison of the great City centre we used to have against what we have now. It's soul destroying to see. And you think that a few positive comments will.....do what?
[quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]If you think that reading some of these comments is more upsetting than Bradford's decline....then you need your head read. You clearly don't know the City as it used to be or you wouldn't make such daft, over dramatised comments. As a Bradfordian who has lived here for over 60 years no comment could be more upsetting than the comparison of the great City centre we used to have against what we have now. It's soul destroying to see. And you think that a few positive comments will.....do what? Oldwestbowling
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11:37am Mon 10 Jun 13

bcfc1903 says...

I see my last post went down well, so well it disappeared. Would have loved to see the replys, can't beat a bit of t&a free speech lol....still at least we still have the Media Museum hopefully for a long time yet. Bradford of course is the first UNESCO City of Film, it has an economy worth 8.3 billion putting it on a par with SHEFFIELD and is forcast by 2016 to be over 9 billion, it has the Alhambra theatre, City Park, The Town Hall, 6,300 listed buildings, The Birth place of the Bronte Sisters in Thornton Vilage, The UNESCO World Heritage site at Saltaire and the Bronte Parsonage in Haworth. Little Germany could be made much more of. Now Avro...what do you think of that lot......
I see my last post went down well, so well it disappeared. Would have loved to see the replys, can't beat a bit of t&a free speech lol....still at least we still have the Media Museum hopefully for a long time yet. Bradford of course is the first UNESCO City of Film, it has an economy worth 8.3 billion putting it on a par with SHEFFIELD and is forcast by 2016 to be over 9 billion, it has the Alhambra theatre, City Park, The Town Hall, 6,300 listed buildings, The Birth place of the Bronte Sisters in Thornton Vilage, The UNESCO World Heritage site at Saltaire and the Bronte Parsonage in Haworth. Little Germany could be made much more of. Now Avro...what do you think of that lot...... bcfc1903
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12:26pm Mon 10 Jun 13

Andy2010 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
I see my last post went down well, so well it disappeared. Would have loved to see the replys, can't beat a bit of t&a free speech lol....still at least we still have the Media Museum hopefully for a long time yet. Bradford of course is the first UNESCO City of Film, it has an economy worth 8.3 billion putting it on a par with SHEFFIELD and is forcast by 2016 to be over 9 billion, it has the Alhambra theatre, City Park, The Town Hall, 6,300 listed buildings, The Birth place of the Bronte Sisters in Thornton Vilage, The UNESCO World Heritage site at Saltaire and the Bronte Parsonage in Haworth. Little Germany could be made much more of. Now Avro...what do you think of that lot......
Excellent post there

You really like that little Sheffield fact dont ya (thats if it is fact)

Anyway I digress

Lets look at whats on offer here

Alhambra - Nice..give you that...its a theatre (most cities have them)

City Park - A £25m pond basically...hhmmm not impressed

The Town Hall - WOW you really are scrapping the barrel when you list an council head office as a major attraction

Bronte - Aside from the bronte the parsonage Thornton doesnt really have much else and lets face it..seen it once seen it all

Saltaire - You might be interested to know but 40% of Saltaire residents actually work in Leeds and spend most of their time there. Most people who live in Saltaire have no interest in going to Bradford at all just the rents are cheaper than say Rodley on its on the train line to Leeds. Give you that though its a nice little village

Little Germany - our own little haven for drug factories and illegal drug dens. Nice

WOW with all the above you make Bradford sound amazing. If anyone ever critises Bradford again I will simply refer them to your amazing post and say " hey look what we have to offer". I'll be sure to keep them away from the delusional people who constantly moan about

No Shopping Centre
No Jobs
No Shops
No Retail
Grooming Gangs
Drugs
Gridlock potholed roads
etc etc etc etc etc
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I see my last post went down well, so well it disappeared. Would have loved to see the replys, can't beat a bit of t&a free speech lol....still at least we still have the Media Museum hopefully for a long time yet. Bradford of course is the first UNESCO City of Film, it has an economy worth 8.3 billion putting it on a par with SHEFFIELD and is forcast by 2016 to be over 9 billion, it has the Alhambra theatre, City Park, The Town Hall, 6,300 listed buildings, The Birth place of the Bronte Sisters in Thornton Vilage, The UNESCO World Heritage site at Saltaire and the Bronte Parsonage in Haworth. Little Germany could be made much more of. Now Avro...what do you think of that lot......[/p][/quote]Excellent post there You really like that little Sheffield fact dont ya (thats if it is fact) Anyway I digress Lets look at whats on offer here Alhambra - Nice..give you that...its a theatre (most cities have them) City Park - A £25m pond basically...hhmmm not impressed The Town Hall - WOW you really are scrapping the barrel when you list an council head office as a major attraction Bronte - Aside from the bronte the parsonage Thornton doesnt really have much else and lets face it..seen it once seen it all Saltaire - You might be interested to know but 40% of Saltaire residents actually work in Leeds and spend most of their time there. Most people who live in Saltaire have no interest in going to Bradford at all just the rents are cheaper than say Rodley on its on the train line to Leeds. Give you that though its a nice little village Little Germany - our own little haven for drug factories and illegal drug dens. Nice WOW with all the above you make Bradford sound amazing. If anyone ever critises Bradford again I will simply refer them to your amazing post and say " hey look what we have to offer". I'll be sure to keep them away from the delusional people who constantly moan about No Shopping Centre No Jobs No Shops No Retail Grooming Gangs Drugs Gridlock potholed roads etc etc etc etc etc Andy2010
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5:05pm Mon 10 Jun 13

Pondlover says...

Threads gone the same way as every other one does.............

Those that say everything is ok trotting out the same old but ever dwindling amount of positives. Then those that refuse to accept any positives whatsoever.

Nobody wants to accept reality, the bit in the middle, nobody wants to meet there, no wonder even the potential loss of the media musuem is met with apathy by the majority. It is such a hame..
Threads gone the same way as every other one does............. Those that say everything is ok trotting out the same old but ever dwindling amount of positives. Then those that refuse to accept any positives whatsoever. Nobody wants to accept reality, the bit in the middle, nobody wants to meet there, no wonder even the potential loss of the media musuem is met with apathy by the majority. It is such a hame.. Pondlover
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11:36am Tue 11 Jun 13

lonniejockstrap says...

ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
I agree about the reveling in any demise of the City, and its the usual bunch of critics who salivate all over the T@A website every time they smell bad news for Bradford. Andy 2010 even 'laughed out Loud' because bcfc 1903 and his wife bought goods from Bradford shops in order to help the local economy. Can you believe it! Well Andy, I live in Cumbria and my wife and I had a Bradford business carry out thousands of pounds worth of work on our property in order to support the Bradford economy so maybe you would like to 'lol' at that as well whilst claiming you 'yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's'. Do something positive instead of criticisng people who are trying to help.

You are of course perfectly entitled -as well as predictable- to attack efforts to help Bradford. There are a number of people like you who are experts at being negative, if you believe the City is dead and beyond resuscitation then why don't you walk away and leave those who are trying to revive it get on with it? You might be surprised to realise that those who are getting off their backsides to do what they can for Bradford -and those that CHOOSE to spend their money in Bradford rather than elsewhere- are also aware of the problems that exist so I hope you don't think your constant negative view is news to anyone who lives or has lived in Bradford. Some folks are prepared to at least try save something other than use their time attempting to further undermine the City.
[quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]I agree about the reveling in any demise of the City, and its the usual bunch of critics who salivate all over the T@A website every time they smell bad news for Bradford. Andy 2010 even 'laughed out Loud' because bcfc 1903 and his wife bought goods from Bradford shops in order to help the local economy. Can you believe it! Well Andy, I live in Cumbria and my wife and I had a Bradford business carry out thousands of pounds worth of work on our property in order to support the Bradford economy so maybe you would like to 'lol' at that as well whilst claiming you 'yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's'. Do something positive instead of criticisng people who are trying to help. You are of course perfectly entitled -as well as predictable- to attack efforts to help Bradford. There are a number of people like you who are experts at being negative, if you believe the City is dead and beyond resuscitation then why don't you walk away and leave those who are trying to revive it get on with it? You might be surprised to realise that those who are getting off their backsides to do what they can for Bradford -and those that CHOOSE to spend their money in Bradford rather than elsewhere- are also aware of the problems that exist so I hope you don't think your constant negative view is news to anyone who lives or has lived in Bradford. Some folks are prepared to at least try save something other than use their time attempting to further undermine the City. lonniejockstrap
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11:44am Tue 11 Jun 13

lonniejockstrap says...

Andy2010 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
I see my last post went down well, so well it disappeared. Would have loved to see the replys, can't beat a bit of t&a free speech lol....still at least we still have the Media Museum hopefully for a long time yet. Bradford of course is the first UNESCO City of Film, it has an economy worth 8.3 billion putting it on a par with SHEFFIELD and is forcast by 2016 to be over 9 billion, it has the Alhambra theatre, City Park, The Town Hall, 6,300 listed buildings, The Birth place of the Bronte Sisters in Thornton Vilage, The UNESCO World Heritage site at Saltaire and the Bronte Parsonage in Haworth. Little Germany could be made much more of. Now Avro...what do you think of that lot......
Excellent post there

You really like that little Sheffield fact dont ya (thats if it is fact)

Anyway I digress

Lets look at whats on offer here

Alhambra - Nice..give you that...its a theatre (most cities have them)

City Park - A £25m pond basically...hhmmm not impressed

The Town Hall - WOW you really are scrapping the barrel when you list an council head office as a major attraction

Bronte - Aside from the bronte the parsonage Thornton doesnt really have much else and lets face it..seen it once seen it all

Saltaire - You might be interested to know but 40% of Saltaire residents actually work in Leeds and spend most of their time there. Most people who live in Saltaire have no interest in going to Bradford at all just the rents are cheaper than say Rodley on its on the train line to Leeds. Give you that though its a nice little village

Little Germany - our own little haven for drug factories and illegal drug dens. Nice

WOW with all the above you make Bradford sound amazing. If anyone ever critises Bradford again I will simply refer them to your amazing post and say " hey look what we have to offer". I'll be sure to keep them away from the delusional people who constantly moan about

No Shopping Centre
No Jobs
No Shops
No Retail
Grooming Gangs
Drugs
Gridlock potholed roads
etc etc etc etc etc
I'm confused Andy, you provide a list: 'No Shopping Centre No Jobs No Shops No Retail' but you are against saving the Media Museum -going by your posts. Will you be adding the MM to your list in a year or so and blaming its loss on others?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: I see my last post went down well, so well it disappeared. Would have loved to see the replys, can't beat a bit of t&a free speech lol....still at least we still have the Media Museum hopefully for a long time yet. Bradford of course is the first UNESCO City of Film, it has an economy worth 8.3 billion putting it on a par with SHEFFIELD and is forcast by 2016 to be over 9 billion, it has the Alhambra theatre, City Park, The Town Hall, 6,300 listed buildings, The Birth place of the Bronte Sisters in Thornton Vilage, The UNESCO World Heritage site at Saltaire and the Bronte Parsonage in Haworth. Little Germany could be made much more of. Now Avro...what do you think of that lot......[/p][/quote]Excellent post there You really like that little Sheffield fact dont ya (thats if it is fact) Anyway I digress Lets look at whats on offer here Alhambra - Nice..give you that...its a theatre (most cities have them) City Park - A £25m pond basically...hhmmm not impressed The Town Hall - WOW you really are scrapping the barrel when you list an council head office as a major attraction Bronte - Aside from the bronte the parsonage Thornton doesnt really have much else and lets face it..seen it once seen it all Saltaire - You might be interested to know but 40% of Saltaire residents actually work in Leeds and spend most of their time there. Most people who live in Saltaire have no interest in going to Bradford at all just the rents are cheaper than say Rodley on its on the train line to Leeds. Give you that though its a nice little village Little Germany - our own little haven for drug factories and illegal drug dens. Nice WOW with all the above you make Bradford sound amazing. If anyone ever critises Bradford again I will simply refer them to your amazing post and say " hey look what we have to offer". I'll be sure to keep them away from the delusional people who constantly moan about No Shopping Centre No Jobs No Shops No Retail Grooming Gangs Drugs Gridlock potholed roads etc etc etc etc etc[/p][/quote]I'm confused Andy, you provide a list: 'No Shopping Centre No Jobs No Shops No Retail' but you are against saving the Media Museum -going by your posts. Will you be adding the MM to your list in a year or so and blaming its loss on others? lonniejockstrap
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11:47am Tue 11 Jun 13

lonniejockstrap says...

Oldwestbowling wrote:
ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
If you think that reading some of these comments is more upsetting than Bradford's decline....then you need your head read. You clearly don't know the City as it used to be or you wouldn't make such daft, over dramatised comments. As a Bradfordian who has lived here for over 60 years no comment could be more upsetting than the comparison of the great City centre we used to have against what we have now. It's soul destroying to see. And you think that a few positive comments will.....do what?
It is soul destroying to see what has been allowed to happen to Bradford over the years BUT there are still posters on here criticising folk who are trying to prevent further deterioration. Are you doing anything to fight for Bradford?
[quote][p][bold]Oldwestbowling[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]If you think that reading some of these comments is more upsetting than Bradford's decline....then you need your head read. You clearly don't know the City as it used to be or you wouldn't make such daft, over dramatised comments. As a Bradfordian who has lived here for over 60 years no comment could be more upsetting than the comparison of the great City centre we used to have against what we have now. It's soul destroying to see. And you think that a few positive comments will.....do what?[/p][/quote]It is soul destroying to see what has been allowed to happen to Bradford over the years BUT there are still posters on here criticising folk who are trying to prevent further deterioration. Are you doing anything to fight for Bradford? lonniejockstrap
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11:55am Tue 11 Jun 13

lonniejockstrap says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
ravacity wrote:
chard501 wrote:
There are two reasons for the museum's plight.

First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby.

Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink.

The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.
Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".
I agree about the reveling in any demise of the City, and its the usual bunch of critics who salivate all over the T@A website every time they smell bad news for Bradford. Andy 2010 even 'laughed out Loud' because bcfc 1903 and his wife bought goods from Bradford shops in order to help the local economy. Can you believe it! Well Andy, I live in Cumbria and my wife and I had a Bradford business carry out thousands of pounds worth of work on our property in order to support the Bradford economy so maybe you would like to 'lol' at that as well whilst claiming you 'yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's'. Do something positive instead of criticisng people who are trying to help.

You are of course perfectly entitled -as well as predictable- to attack efforts to help Bradford. There are a number of people like you who are experts at being negative, if you believe the City is dead and beyond resuscitation then why don't you walk away and leave those who are trying to revive it get on with it? You might be surprised to realise that those who are getting off their backsides to do what they can for Bradford -and those that CHOOSE to spend their money in Bradford rather than elsewhere- are also aware of the problems that exist so I hope you don't think your constant negative view is news to anyone who lives or has lived in Bradford. Some folks are prepared to at least try save something other than use their time attempting to further undermine the City.
ps apologies ravacity, if this post appeared to be mostly directed at you. I was supporting your post but my comments were mainly for the attention of Andy 2010.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ravacity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chard501[/bold] wrote: There are two reasons for the museum's plight. First, imax-side I've found the museum to be a bit outdated and ever so slighty grubby. Second, it's the old city-centre problem. I think people in Bradford sometimes underestimate just how bad a state the centre is in. Boarded-up shops, deserted streets, unpleasant types of people lurking about.....and you wonder why no one from outside Bradford wants to go for a family trip to the museum. The last time I was there I drove. The car park had three scruffers drinking cans of lager at 11am on a sunday morning. Inside the museum the guards had to kick out a bunch of scruffers for running amok whilst drinking large cans of energy drink. The museum is at fault for the state of it but the council has to take responsibility for destroying the footfall in the centre.[/p][/quote]Really sad and upsetting watching bradfords decline over recent years, even more upsetting is reading the comments, Bradford people seem to be revelling even rejoicing in the towns demise,i don't understand the need to comment at all, if you've fallen out with Bradford and in love with the utopia down road then fair enough,an old Bradford saying "if you've nowt good to say then say nowt".[/p][/quote]I agree about the reveling in any demise of the City, and its the usual bunch of critics who salivate all over the T@A website every time they smell bad news for Bradford. Andy 2010 even 'laughed out Loud' because bcfc 1903 and his wife bought goods from Bradford shops in order to help the local economy. Can you believe it! Well Andy, I live in Cumbria and my wife and I had a Bradford business carry out thousands of pounds worth of work on our property in order to support the Bradford economy so maybe you would like to 'lol' at that as well whilst claiming you 'yearn for the city to be back to how it was 80/90's'. Do something positive instead of criticisng people who are trying to help. You are of course perfectly entitled -as well as predictable- to attack efforts to help Bradford. There are a number of people like you who are experts at being negative, if you believe the City is dead and beyond resuscitation then why don't you walk away and leave those who are trying to revive it get on with it? You might be surprised to realise that those who are getting off their backsides to do what they can for Bradford -and those that CHOOSE to spend their money in Bradford rather than elsewhere- are also aware of the problems that exist so I hope you don't think your constant negative view is news to anyone who lives or has lived in Bradford. Some folks are prepared to at least try save something other than use their time attempting to further undermine the City.[/p][/quote]ps apologies ravacity, if this post appeared to be mostly directed at you. I was supporting your post but my comments were mainly for the attention of Andy 2010. lonniejockstrap
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