Tories hit out at Labour's budget plans

Tory leader on Bradford Council Glen Miller Tory leader on Bradford Council Glen Miller

Conservatives on Bradford Council have criticised the Labour-run authority’s proposals to increase council tax by 1.99 per cent for 2013/14.

It follows two years of freezes, paid for by a Government grant, equivalent to a 2.5 per cent rise. But this year the same offer was reduced to the equivalent of a one per cent rise, with the added complication that a referendum must be held by any authority wanting to increase council tax by two per cent or more.

Communities Secretary Eric Pickles MP has accused councils of “dodging democracy” by avoiding triggering the public vote, as they look to increase council tax by just under the threshold.

Councillor Glen Miller, leader of Bradford’s Conservative group said that if the Government offers a helping hand, it should be accepted, and accused Labour of stopping the residents of the district from having a referendum on the issue.

“It seems wrong to increase council tax by as much as the council is allowed to do, without having to hold a referendum, simply to raise £1 million,” said Coun Miller.

“While increasing the council tax by this amount will take £2.6m from the pockets of hard pressed local families, it will only provide the council with £1m more than if it did not increase the tax at all and instead accepted the government grant available to keep the tax the same as it is now.

“The Council will say that it is increasing the tax now as it needs the money in future years, but we all know that savings need to be made over the next few years, so why be anticipating spending more money?”

Comments(13)

Biker71 says...
8:32am Tue 26 Feb 13

Councillors and/ or MP's acting underhandedly? noooooooooo impossible.

allinittogether says...
9:13am Tue 26 Feb 13

A Tory politician actually wanting a referendum. Hmmm!
Come the big referendum in 2015 pal your lot will be history.

angry bradfordian says...
9:42am Tue 26 Feb 13

Another excellent example of our politicians playing party politics rather than looking after the city's interests.

He's going on about 'hard pressed' families as though it's the end of the world and we're only talking around 20 quid a year per house!

Biker71 says...
9:55am Tue 26 Feb 13

angry bradfordian wrote:
Another excellent example of our politicians playing party politics rather than looking after the city's interests.

He's going on about 'hard pressed' families as though it's the end of the world and we're only talking around 20 quid a year per house!
Plus we are hard pressed because of his ConDem bosses ripping the country off as much as possible...

Albion. says...
10:41am Tue 26 Feb 13

Biker71 wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
Another excellent example of our politicians playing party politics rather than looking after the city's interests.

He's going on about 'hard pressed' families as though it's the end of the world and we're only talking around 20 quid a year per house!
Plus we are hard pressed because of his ConDem bosses ripping the country off as much as possible...
It is to be expected that the opposition will criticise policy rather than support it, we get the same merry-go-round at national level. When (or if) the ridiculous Ed. gets into power, there will be no less number of complaints or criticism, either from his opponents or on public forums such as this.

David Shaw says...
2:40pm Tue 26 Feb 13

when the primary source of income is Taxation, then surely it has to go up to cover short falls. I don't like it, however it needs to be done.

BertSanders says...
3:10pm Tue 26 Feb 13

It is I believe the maximum charge allowed - Bradford is a poor City and they will have an oversized welfare bill - it is frightening to wonder what the real rate bill will be if or when we get out of austerity mode or get a new Labour administration. It has to be collected to ensure some sort of normality. We have been living beyond our means for years - and there will be major changes ahead - whoever is in Government
I notice someone thinks a General Strike will solve things - if you have a job I suggest you ignore that idea.

Cityman23 says...
5:34pm Tue 26 Feb 13

This Tory group leader has got some 'brass neck" as they say in these parts.

We've had 'austerity' from the 'get-go' of the Coalition government, with them leaning mighty heavily on local councils, 'till the pips sqeak'!

The austerity measures haven't worked and with no growth at all, Britain has lost its 'triple A status' which all along Osbourne said he was doing some things to prevent happening!

Has borrowing of central government gone down? No, in fact it's gone up and the public services cuts just keep coming. Even Philip Davies MP (right wing Tory) openly admitted borrowing was burgeoning, at a public meeting recently.

The councils have been carrying out Tory policy (under duress) if they didn't they'd be pushed aside/taken to court and a faceless administrator brought in.

And now when the ONLY choice is either to start cutting even more or raise council tax, the council has opted for the latter to save vital services. Further cutting would no doubt enflame the public even more.

Strange that anti-Yorkshire Tory MP Eric Pickles (he said he prefers the 'south') resists plans to reduce emptying of bins from once a week to every two, ( he doesn't seem to a agree with re-cycling) when recycling is the ONLY option for the future (in term's of the environment/keeping landfill down/costs down. Mr P (a climate change denier like Philip Davies, I've no doubt)

And now...the Tory leader wants to spend more money on an unnecessary referendum. Pity we couldn't have had one on what the Tories are trying to do to the NHS with their legislation 'bashed' through parliament (when no voter was told this was their plan at the 2010 General election). In fact Mr Cameron promised " No Top down changes to the NHS!" His b** should certainly be on fire"

Yes, The Tories-the party who likes to define themselves as 'safe custodians of the public purse', but when they get the chance, it's usually all about 'which of their friends is going to make a 'fast buck!'

Mr Glen Miller...(wasn't he a bandleader)..perhaps you should try 'trumpeting another tune'-one that has a chance of being believed!

Cityman23 says...
6:39pm Tue 26 Feb 13

BertSanders wrote:
It is I believe the maximum charge allowed - Bradford is a poor City and they will have an oversized welfare bill - it is frightening to wonder what the real rate bill will be if or when we get out of austerity mode or get a new Labour administration. It has to be collected to ensure some sort of normality. We have been living beyond our means for years - and there will be major changes ahead - whoever is in Government
I notice someone thinks a General Strike will solve things - if you have a job I suggest you ignore that idea.
Do you know what Council Taxes are used for?

Welfare-benefits etc is the responsibility
of Central Govt. not local govt.


The Council deals with education, emptying bins, bulk refuse, libraries, building control, business rates, pest control, social services, highways locally, museums, theatres, swimming pools and other amenities, care homes etc etc etc

All things we've used, are using, or.. may use in the future!!

BertSanders says...
7:28pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Cityman23 wrote:
BertSanders wrote:
It is I believe the maximum charge allowed - Bradford is a poor City and they will have an oversized welfare bill - it is frightening to wonder what the real rate bill will be if or when we get out of austerity mode or get a new Labour administration. It has to be collected to ensure some sort of normality. We have been living beyond our means for years - and there will be major changes ahead - whoever is in Government
I notice someone thinks a General Strike will solve things - if you have a job I suggest you ignore that idea.
Do you know what Council Taxes are used for?

Welfare-benefits etc is the responsibility
of Central Govt. not local govt.


The Council deals with education, emptying bins, bulk refuse, libraries, building control, business rates, pest control, social services, highways locally, museums, theatres, swimming pools and other amenities, care homes etc etc etc

All things we've used, are using, or.. may use in the future!!
Thank you for correction - in the circumstances I would have thought economies could be made, as a large raft of expenditure that makes Bradford
different, must be welfare payments which you inform are Goverment responsibility.
I am grateful to have been corrected.

room111124 says...
9:47pm Tue 26 Feb 13

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

Cityman23 says...
10:04pm Tue 26 Feb 13

BertSanders wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
BertSanders wrote:
It is I believe the maximum charge allowed - Bradford is a poor City and they will have an oversized welfare bill - it is frightening to wonder what the real rate bill will be if or when we get out of austerity mode or get a new Labour administration. It has to be collected to ensure some sort of normality. We have been living beyond our means for years - and there will be major changes ahead - whoever is in Government
I notice someone thinks a General Strike will solve things - if you have a job I suggest you ignore that idea.
Do you know what Council Taxes are used for?

Welfare-benefits etc is the responsibility
of Central Govt. not local govt.


The Council deals with education, emptying bins, bulk refuse, libraries, building control, business rates, pest control, social services, highways locally, museums, theatres, swimming pools and other amenities, care homes etc etc etc


All things we've used, are using, or.. may use in the future!!
Thank you for correction - in the circumstances I would have thought economies could be made, as a large raft of expenditure that makes Bradford
different, must be welfare payments which you inform are Goverment responsibility.
I am grateful to have been corrected.
To be fair, Housing Benefit is usually administered by the local authority along with Council Tax benefit. Housing Benefit however is paid directly to eg landlords (who usually just happen to be charging pretty high rents knowing they will get their 'money.')

Outraged English Subject says...
1:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

PMQ’s what a farce no wonder local governments copy central, a case of monkey see monkey do!

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