Objections to plans for 124 homes in Queensbury

A planning application has been submitted for 124 homes to be built on a four-hectare green field site in Queensbury.

The detailed bid, which would see a mixture of two to five bedroom homes built on the site, follows outline planning approval in 2011 for 155 homes on the site.

At the time the last application sparked controversy over highways issues, with one ward Councillor Michael Walls urging planners to adjourn and visit the site so that they could “realise the horror of this scheme” because of the road problems in the area.

Now Bellway Homes has submitted an application for the derelict Harrowins Farm site in Brighouse Road. Documents accompanying the bid detail that “the proposed scheme achieves a balance between making efficient use of this sustainably located site and working with the site’s individual characteristics and acknowledging the character of the wider area”.

It adds: “The scheme proposes a mixture of accommodation in detached, semi-detached and terraced properties in a size range of two, three, four and five bedroom houses. It is considered that this mix will appeal to a range of different household types and sizes.”

A spokesman for the developer said it had submitted a detailed application for the greenfield site and depending on the outcome, would be hoping to be on site by June.

He said that out of the 124 homes, most would be three, four or five bed homes, and that there would also be some two and three bed homes made available at affordable prices.

Councillor Walls (Con, Queensbury) said he would be objecting to the scheme on issues including the traffic problems it would cause for the village, and on the lack of primary school places in the area.

He did, however, admit that Bellway Homes’s plans to limit access on to Park Lane to pedestrians and cycles was to be welcomed. “This was a meadow until it was allocated as phase two housing land, but there are doubts about the area in terms of flooding,” said Coun Walls.

“Another problem is that residents are already having difficulties getting their children into local primary schools, and although they could ask the developer to contribute financially, there are no proposals for a new school in the area, which is what is needed.”

The developer has agreed to contribute 18 two and three-bedroom homes as affordable housing at a discount of 35 per cent, as well as to provide a residential Metrocard scheme. Bradford Council is asking for £143,000 towards recreation, and £217,000 for education provision.

Comments(11)

angry bradfordian says...
11:37am Tue 26 Feb 13

"Now Bellway Homes has submitted an application for the derelict Harrowins Farm site in Brighouse Road"

How can a green field site be derelict? Or is this just part of the spin being put on the application?


I can't see £217,000 going very far towards educational provision. Assuming each of these family houses has 1 child then that's 4 extra teachers required to teach them so that money will only cover the staff costs of 1 year and assume no extra classrooms or facilities are needed.

Mike Strutter says...
12:16pm Tue 26 Feb 13

It's not derelict, it is still a meadow !!!

We've been here before and as there is already an application granted for 150 odd homes on this site then it will go through.

All the primary schools in Queensbury are full, in fact the council is wanting to expand Shibden Head primary by 400 pupils to accomodate the potential influx.

I don't have a problem with that, the kids need to go to school. What I do have a problem with is the fact that Queensbury because it has a fair few green fields seems to be a dumping ground to build the districts new houses.

I'm far from being a nimby but anyone who hasn't been to Queensbury, take a drive up there around 5.30pm and let me know if you think the road infrastructure can cope with the 500 odd new houses that have been passed and not yet built.

Also I've had a look at the drawings for the Bellway houses and they are awful ! Most of Queensbury is a conservation area where most houses are built in stone or stone effect. These are red brick, awful !

sorrow&anger says...
12:25pm Tue 26 Feb 13

angry bradfordian wrote:
"Now Bellway Homes has submitted an application for the derelict Harrowins Farm site in Brighouse Road"

How can a green field site be derelict? Or is this just part of the spin being put on the application?


I can't see £217,000 going very far towards educational provision. Assuming each of these family houses has 1 child then that's 4 extra teachers required to teach them so that money will only cover the staff costs of 1 year and assume no extra classrooms or facilities are needed.
Agree. Green fields can never be derelict. This is council planner speak.

Like may other schemes this is all about revenue generation. With the Council limited to a 1.9% rise in Council Tax it has to find the money it thinks it needs from somewhere. New homes equal more income, and since developers will only willing build on green fields the Council has no option but to grant planning approval.

From April business rates will no longer be pooled and distributed centrally. Bradford will lose heavily under this arrangement, Expect more green fields to be destroyed as City Hall works to close the income gap.

Bone_idle18 says...
12:33pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Looks ideal for housing, how can it be greenfield when it's already surrounded by houses and golf course?

Apollo says...
12:38pm Tue 26 Feb 13

This is a Green Belt site. It has nothing to do with it being derelict or having any other adjective applied to it.

It is Green Belt plain and simple. What bit of the title Harrowins Farm can the idiot planners not understand?

Access to the land has always been difficult. Access to 124 houses on/off the main Brighouse-Denholme Road would be impossible and there is no access off Park Lane.

The land is as low lying as anything can be in Queensbury with the possible excpetion of the Swamp/Beggerington area.

This application has chaos and disaster written all over it.

Michael Manus says...
2:13pm Tue 26 Feb 13

No matter how much we object these builds will go ahead. As long as people are paying council tax there is no way Bradford Council would object...easy money for them.

Bone_idle18 says...
3:05pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Never convinced by the traffic argument. Cote farm in Thackley is a far bigger development with a single access to one of the busiest roads in Bradford, but you never see a queue to get out onto the main road.

Why don't objectors just admit they're concerned about their house value when they're no longer adjacent to open fields?

Apollo says...
3:43pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Never convinced by the traffic argument. Cote farm in Thackley is a far bigger development with a single access to one of the busiest roads in Bradford, but you never see a queue to get out onto the main road. Why don't objectors just admit they're concerned about their house value when they're no longer adjacent to open fields?
Largely because there are no houses adjacent to these particular open fields.

Littlemoor Park one side, Golf course to other and roads to all other sides, albeit bad ones.

Of course you could just look on a map.

Mike Strutter says...
3:59pm Tue 26 Feb 13

I can't wait to see the residents get out of this estate when they get their first taste of a Queensbury winter !!!

Mike Strutter says...
4:02pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Never convinced by the traffic argument. Cote farm in Thackley is a far bigger development with a single access to one of the busiest roads in Bradford, but you never see a queue to get out onto the main road. Why don't objectors just admit they're concerned about their house value when they're no longer adjacent to open fields?
Not concerned about my house value at all.

More concerned that the roads are clogged up (will be even worse if Tesco ever build a petrol station), schools are full, dentists are full, doctors are full...........where do you want me to stop ?

Michael Manus says...
4:09pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Mike Strutter wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Never convinced by the traffic argument. Cote farm in Thackley is a far bigger development with a single access to one of the busiest roads in Bradford, but you never see a queue to get out onto the main road. Why don't objectors just admit they're concerned about their house value when they're no longer adjacent to open fields?
Not concerned about my house value at all.

More concerned that the roads are clogged up (will be even worse if Tesco ever build a petrol station), schools are full, dentists are full, doctors are full...........where do you want me to stop ?
Totally agree it's not about the value of the houses it's about the services in Queensbury being stretched to the absolute limit. At the moment it's minimum 2 weeks to get a doctors appointment and 4-5 for a dentist not to mention the waiting lists for all 3 primary schools. The roads are full to capacity and if you ever drive towards Queensbury at 5.30 you would know what I mean.

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