Nab Wood residents' fury over speed humps removal (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

"to the fury of those residents delighted by their immediate success"
How were wrongly installed humps a success when they damaged cars that weren't speeding?

Last time this story was published I was wondering if the T&A would find out if anyone working for the council had been disciplined for this debacle. These are qualified people and there's no doubt it would be a disciplinary offence in a private company and money had been wantonly wasted for what appears to work that was either wrongly designed or supervised.
This however if the council where it seems to be fine to waste money.

If you look after your kids properly in the first place, they wouldn't be wandering around in the roads by themselves in the first place.

Sorry if that seems harsh but I'm a parent myself and I would let my little one roam around the street by herself regardless of how busy or quiet the road in question is.

I for one am happy these have now been removed, I took one look at them and did a 3 point turn in the road, no matter how slow or fast I would have gone over these speed bumps I would have destroyed the underside of my car!

bennyG wrote:
If you look after your kids properly in the first place, they wouldn't be wandering around in the roads by themselves in the first place.

Sorry if that seems harsh but I'm a parent myself and I would let my little one roam around the street by herself regardless of how busy or quiet the road in question is.

I for one am happy these have now been removed, I took one look at them and did a 3 point turn in the road, no matter how slow or fast I would have gone over these speed bumps I would have destroyed the underside of my car!

Totally agree!

We are taught to obey road signs, so maybe people are actually speeding up when they see the 'ramp' sign pictured because they see this as an instruction. That is all, thank you.

angry bradfordian wrote:
"to the fury of those residents delighted by their immediate success"
How were wrongly installed humps a success when they damaged cars that weren't speeding?

Last time this story was published I was wondering if the T&A would find out if anyone working for the council had been disciplined for this debacle. These are qualified people and there's no doubt it would be a disciplinary offence in a private company and money had been wantonly wasted for what appears to work that was either wrongly designed or supervised.
This however if the council where it seems to be fine to waste money.

“It has been a debacle, but they do need to be re-profiled to the correct dimensions and that may mean the contractor replacing them at their expense."
This is a nothing story anyway as we were told before that they are to be replaced.

One day, someone will realise that the faster you go over speed humps/cushions, the less you feel them & the less damage is done to vehicles.
That's why I cane it when I see them.

20mph isn't enforceable anyway, no one has ever been 'done' for breaking a 20mph limit, they just got 'advice'. The actual limit is 30mph, so no faster than 35 & you'll be ok. :)

bennyG wrote:
If you look after your kids properly in the first place, they wouldn't be wandering around in the roads by themselves in the first place.

Sorry if that seems harsh but I'm a parent myself and I would let my little one roam around the street by herself regardless of how busy or quiet the road in question is.

I for one am happy these have now been removed, I took one look at them and did a 3 point turn in the road, no matter how slow or fast I would have gone over these speed bumps I would have destroyed the underside of my car!

I could not agree more! Oh and she mentions having an ordinary car, and completely fails to recognise that other people have different cars that would be damaged at ANY speed. There should be at least one parent, NOT grand parent at home to raise their children until they are old enough to walk to school themselves; I was eight years old when this was the case.

Bring back Tufty!

It is a shame that drivers must be forced to obey the law via humps and ever reducing speed limits.

It's about time we stuck gps devices on all cars which can limit vehicles automatically. Anyone found to be tampering their device would serve a severe prison sentence for blatant disregard of other's safety.

Afterall, if a dangerous/illegal driver does 80mph in a 30 zone, what makes these people think they will do 20?!

justjustice wrote:
It is a shame that drivers must be forced to obey the law via humps and ever reducing speed limits.

It's about time we stuck gps devices on all cars which can limit vehicles automatically. Anyone found to be tampering their device would serve a severe prison sentence for blatant disregard of other's safety.

Afterall, if a dangerous/illegal driver does 80mph in a 30 zone, what makes these people think they will do 20?!

Are you just plain stupid?? Limiting cars would actually be dangerous. What if someone is sat an inch off your bumper (happens every day in bradford) and you want to speed up to move out of the way and avoid an accident waiting to happen, but wait you can't because your limited. Fantastic idea.

Its not speed that kills its driving irresponsibly that kills.

Its like the age old argument, its not guns that kill people its people that kill people.

Drive responsibly for your surroundings and pay enough attention and you can easily avoid 99.9% of accidents.

Like I said before if parents are doing their job properly, kids wouldn't be in the road on they're own in the first place to get run over by a car!

why should anyone at the council be punished, it was a contractor who put the humps in not the council, its the contractor that removed them not the council. The council acted quickly when the fault was discovered and dealt with it how can the council be at fault

How on earth can a contractor make such a basic mistake? The humps are specified to be a certain size and that is it. It's not as if these are the first humps ever installed in the history of humps. Whoever is responsible should be sent to prison forever and deprived of all their assets for being terminally stupid.

The plans read inches and the contractor read feet, simples, do not be too hard on them. ;-)

damraf wrote:
why should anyone at the council be punished, it was a contractor who put the humps in not the council, its the contractor that removed them not the council. The council acted quickly when the fault was discovered and dealt with it how can the council be at fault

In the original story a couple of weeks ago the council said it had been caused by the profile of the road been abnormal and nothing to do with the humps themselves. This story says the contractor MAY have to pay for the repairs so it's obviously not clearly the contractors fault.

In law, as the client it's the council's responsibility to design the scheme safely and supervise the works. This is the case for anything from a house extension to a skyscraper.
The fact these humps were incorrect was only highlighted by people complaining their councillors.

Having been a resident of Nab Wood for near on 30 years I think I can say with confidence that these speed humps are not needed. The area has been a 30mph area for all the time I have lived there, I went to school at Nab Wood Middle and regularly walked up through the neighbourhood and not seen drivers speed to be an issue. I went over one of these speed humps at the bottom of New Close Road at 15mph and the car felt like it left the ground. The area that needed seeing to was the junction of Moorhead and Ashfield, nothing more nothing less.

TMNabWood wrote:
Having been a resident of Nab Wood for near on 30 years I think I can say with confidence that these speed humps are not needed. The area has been a 30mph area for all the time I have lived there, I went to school at Nab Wood Middle and regularly walked up through the neighbourhood and not seen drivers speed to be an issue. I went over one of these speed humps at the bottom of New Close Road at 15mph and the car felt like it left the ground. The area that needed seeing to was the junction of Moorhead and Ashfield, nothing more nothing less.

You will probably find that they are needed when people start looking for alternative routes when Saltaire roundabout is altered.

Albion. wrote:

TMNabWood wrote:
Having been a resident of Nab Wood for near on 30 years I think I can say with confidence that these speed humps are not needed. The area has been a 30mph area for all the time I have lived there, I went to school at Nab Wood Middle and regularly walked up through the neighbourhood and not seen drivers speed to be an issue. I went over one of these speed humps at the bottom of New Close Road at 15mph and the car felt like it left the ground. The area that needed seeing to was the junction of Moorhead and Ashfield, nothing more nothing less.

You will probably find that they are needed when people start looking for alternative routes when Saltaire roundabout is altered.

You mean the alternative routes that have been going on for 30 years? Nab Wood has always been a rat run and never had any issues on speed or accidents. These speed humps are NOT needed, plain and simple. As for saltaire roundabout, there's more chance Westfield completing bradford city center as originally promised than Saltaire rounadbout being altered.

TMNabWood wrote:

Albion. wrote:

TMNabWood wrote:
Having been a resident of Nab Wood for near on 30 years I think I can say with confidence that these speed humps are not needed. The area has been a 30mph area for all the time I have lived there, I went to school at Nab Wood Middle and regularly walked up through the neighbourhood and not seen drivers speed to be an issue. I went over one of these speed humps at the bottom of New Close Road at 15mph and the car felt like it left the ground. The area that needed seeing to was the junction of Moorhead and Ashfield, nothing more nothing less.

You will probably find that they are needed when people start looking for alternative routes when Saltaire roundabout is altered.

You mean the alternative routes that have been going on for 30 years? Nab Wood has always been a rat run and never had any issues on speed or accidents. These speed humps are NOT needed, plain and simple. As for saltaire roundabout, there's more chance Westfield completing bradford city center as originally promised than Saltaire rounadbout being altered.

Nonsense! And once work on the roundabout does start, you will find many more than ever before, looking for alternatives.

Albion. wrote:

TMNabWood wrote:

Albion. wrote:

TMNabWood wrote:
Having been a resident of Nab Wood for near on 30 years I think I can say with confidence that these speed humps are not needed. The area has been a 30mph area for all the time I have lived there, I went to school at Nab Wood Middle and regularly walked up through the neighbourhood and not seen drivers speed to be an issue. I went over one of these speed humps at the bottom of New Close Road at 15mph and the car felt like it left the ground. The area that needed seeing to was the junction of Moorhead and Ashfield, nothing more nothing less.

You will probably find that they are needed when people start looking for alternative routes when Saltaire roundabout is altered.

You mean the alternative routes that have been going on for 30 years? Nab Wood has always been a rat run and never had any issues on speed or accidents. These speed humps are NOT needed, plain and simple. As for saltaire roundabout, there's more chance Westfield completing bradford city center as originally promised than Saltaire rounadbout being altered.

Nonsense! And once work on the roundabout does start, you will find many more than ever before, looking for alternatives.

Which bit is nonesense? the fact that Nab Wood has been used as a rat run for 30 years, or accidents involving speed have been few and far between in those 30 years? The saltaire roundabout plan has been stuck on the drawing board for years, it was talked about ATLEAST 10 years ago when the bingley bypass was opened. Saltaire roundabout improvements will not happen in the next 10 years. Have you not noticed a story today that the council are applying for funding for a supposed bottle neck on canal road at Arnold Laver? Why there? Why not saltaire? Bradford council are hoping that a saltaire and shipley bypass can be agreed before they change saltaire roundabout.