Property website is branded a waste of cash by Bradford councillor (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

"they just have to publicise it and get people on it."

So where is the link to the website! Or even it's name!

"A “Rightmove” style website "

Ok thanks I'll find it.

If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

The legalisation of cannabis would simply create a "don't care" society where those who have hoodwinked the system, by convincing assessors that the word "work" brings them out in spots or brings on their nervous diarrhoea (much as the above poster).
A better idea would be to convert some of these premisses into holding centres, where those who have been ordered to leave the country, can be held until forcibly removed and those who have been given bail, simply because there are no places in prison for them, could be held and prevented from further wrongdoing.

Albion. wrote:
The legalisation of cannabis would simply create a "don't care" society where those who have hoodwinked the system, by convincing assessors that the word "work" brings them out in spots or brings on their nervous diarrhoea (much as the above poster).
A better idea would be to convert some of these premisses into holding centres, where those who have been ordered to leave the country, can be held until forcibly removed and those who have been given bail, simply because there are no places in prison for them, could be held and prevented from further wrongdoing.

Again with the personal attacks. As you've admitted that you have no problem claiming your winter fuel allowence as you see it as your entitlement I was wondering if you have tried claiming for your spinal deficiency? It's a foolish man who advertises his wealth then indulges in slander.

There’s that old bad smell again!

Earth calling. Being said without prejudice and taken from good sources.

I have been an avid visitor to various pubs a d bars in the city, some of these are frequented by council staff and ex council staff. These bars also have employees of MP's and councillors popping in and having a few pints in between the snail pace of work. Beleive me there are an awful lot of disgruntled staff which have finally started to awake from the slumber imposed upon them by the fact they work with or have worked with the council.

Many openly slate the council and it's various departments.

One shocking fact was how cleverly and without much hinderence the council privatised it's housing stock of around 26,000 properties right under the noses of the people of Bradford whilst hiding behind the mask of stock transfer.

One example is the housing stock of Bradford council.

This stock is now in the hands of a private company....run by the same people who used to run it when it was under the councils asset.

The whole point of privatisation of the housing stock was to get the estates modernised and build more dwellings.

It's happened...build a few properties, modernise a few and demolish or sell off the rest! Many more still require modernising, many more still need to be built. This was supposed to occur within ten years or was it five...never mind as with everything this slack council does it just messes it up.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the Incommunities owes? Owes to bankers. Also ask how many staff have been made redundant or have left in the past decade. Also check how much money was spenton the modernisation and aquision of its new premises and HQ. how much grants it recieved to move out of old council offices? the numbers will make you sick.

The entire episode of BCHT and Incommunities stinks in my opinion. The involvement of the blessings from the council also stink.

The MP's of Bradford and district do not seem to be bothered that hundreds of millions of pounds of housing stock which returns millions in rent every year was sold off...let alone without the consent of the majority of bradfordians.

Yes, we the Bradfordians were never asked about our housing stock. These morons just decided to ask a handful of tenants via the "consultations" and many unkept promises with sweetness for various residents groups to vote in favour.

This is blatant underhand dealing and stinks of corruption and a rushed decision to abandon the housing stock, the same housing stock which belongs to all residents of Bradford..past residents and future residents.

I say again, get rid of the MP's and councillors at the next election as from the last fifty years we can see that these vandals, economic hooligans have no intention to allow this city or it's suburbs to flourish or prosper.

I have attended many meetings, wrote various letters on various matters..,,the council,Incommunitie
s and other depts are blatanyly frustrating to work with....delay after delay, investigation after investigation, costings and surveys after costings and surveys (odeon and Westfield). What a bunch of jokers...no offence to circus clowns and stand up funny people.

I dare anyone to ask a few questions to the housing provider.

Q1 how many households voted 'for' stock transfer? How many households were entitled to vote? Do the record and counts/audits still exist?

Q2 how much money was borrowed from the various lenders and how much more is expected to be borrowed?

Q3 how much money do you currently owe to the various lenders/partners?

Q4 how many directors and cheif execs have come and gone? What was their redundancy/retiremen
t/pay offs?

Q5 how many properties have you made since 1975?

Q6 how many have you demolished since 2002?

Q7 how many are awaiting strategic decisions, laying around empty? Or have in the past?

Q8 how did the current group cheif executive get her job? Can you clarify her progress from the days she started working and her super fast rise to her current job?

Q9 who are the present people on the shadow board? Actually how many boards do you have?

q10 who were the people from the council asking for stock transfer to occur? Where are they now?

Q 11 how many properties and land have been sold or leased out to others via tenders or private agreements?

Q12 how many of your properties since 2002 have been given out via this term management let? How many we're given out prior to 2002? How many people do you have on the housing list...how many are homeless?

Q13 how much rent do you collect per year from the properties, each year since 2002? How much rent is outstanding or owed or each year? How much debt was written off when when the housing became private in 2002? How much debt do you right off per year and hw much is spent in terms of resources chasing these debts...in house debt procedures and selling debt to outside companies to collect etc....per year breakdown

Q14 how do you expect this universal credit scheme to effect your business in terms of resources and effort needed to collect rent and how it will effect the arrears figure.

Q15 how many court appearances for eviction, rental payment agreements and notice to quit, notice of seeking possession have been issued per year since 2002? What were the figures prior to 2002?

Q16 how many restructures have taken place since the restructure of transfer from the council. Group restructures and area restructures? What were the costs of these restructures?

Q17 how many of your staff including directors etc taken time off sick? How much of that was related to stress,illness and how much time was taken off due to investigations. What staff criticisms have you received for these investigations. ( note ask for all figures before and after stock transfer)

Once you are lucky enough to get these answers, you need more then luck...ask to see the audit reports for the last decade and have good laugh at its areas of improvement!

Of course I say all this without prejudice as that's how their employees say it..they are too scared or intimated to speak out or even question. Those that do are often seen leaving their jobs soon after.

The varisty,queens and other local city centre establishments are good spot to catch these ex and current employees who will open your eyes to wastage....best to do your own investigations rather then rely on the one sided positiveness of marketing and media.

Not so simple wrote:
Earth calling. Being said without prejudice and taken from good sources.

I have been an avid visitor to various pubs a d bars in the city, some of these are frequented by council staff and ex council staff. These bars also have employees of MP's and councillors popping in and having a few pints in between the snail pace of work. Beleive me there are an awful lot of disgruntled staff which have finally started to awake from the slumber imposed upon them by the fact they work with or have worked with the council.

Many openly slate the council and it's various departments.

One shocking fact was how cleverly and without much hinderence the council privatised it's housing stock of around 26,000 properties right under the noses of the people of Bradford whilst hiding behind the mask of stock transfer.

One example is the housing stock of Bradford council.

This stock is now in the hands of a private company....run by the same people who used to run it when it was under the councils asset.

The whole point of privatisation of the housing stock was to get the estates modernised and build more dwellings.

It's happened...build a few properties, modernise a few and demolish or sell off the rest! Many more still require modernising, many more still need to be built. This was supposed to occur within ten years or was it five...never mind as with everything this slack council does it just messes it up.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the Incommunities owes? Owes to bankers. Also ask how many staff have been made redundant or have left in the past decade. Also check how much money was spenton the modernisation and aquision of its new premises and HQ. how much grants it recieved to move out of old council offices? the numbers will make you sick.

The entire episode of BCHT and Incommunities stinks in my opinion. The involvement of the blessings from the council also stink.

The MP's of Bradford and district do not seem to be bothered that hundreds of millions of pounds of housing stock which returns millions in rent every year was sold off...let alone without the consent of the majority of bradfordians.

Yes, we the Bradfordians were never asked about our housing stock. These morons just decided to ask a handful of tenants via the "consultations" and many unkept promises with sweetness for various residents groups to vote in favour.

This is blatant underhand dealing and stinks of corruption and a rushed decision to abandon the housing stock, the same housing stock which belongs to all residents of Bradford..past residents and future residents.

I say again, get rid of the MP's and councillors at the next election as from the last fifty years we can see that these vandals, economic hooligans have no intention to allow this city or it's suburbs to flourish or prosper.

I have attended many meetings, wrote various letters on various matters..,,the council,Incommunitie

s and other depts are blatanyly frustrating to work with....delay after delay, investigation after investigation, costings and surveys after costings and surveys (odeon and Westfield). What a bunch of jokers...no offence to circus clowns and stand up funny people.

I dare anyone to ask a few questions to the housing provider.

Q1 how many households voted 'for' stock transfer? How many households were entitled to vote? Do the record and counts/audits still exist?

Q2 how much money was borrowed from the various lenders and how much more is expected to be borrowed?

Q3 how much money do you currently owe to the various lenders/partners?

Q4 how many directors and cheif execs have come and gone? What was their redundancy/retiremen

t/pay offs?

Q5 how many properties have you made since 1975?

Q6 how many have you demolished since 2002?

Q7 how many are awaiting strategic decisions, laying around empty? Or have in the past?

Q8 how did the current group cheif executive get her job? Can you clarify her progress from the days she started working and her super fast rise to her current job?

Q9 who are the present people on the shadow board? Actually how many boards do you have?

q10 who were the people from the council asking for stock transfer to occur? Where are they now?

Q 11 how many properties and land have been sold or leased out to others via tenders or private agreements?

Q12 how many of your properties since 2002 have been given out via this term management let? How many we're given out prior to 2002? How many people do you have on the housing list...how many are homeless?

Q13 how much rent do you collect per year from the properties, each year since 2002? How much rent is outstanding or owed or each year? How much debt was written off when when the housing became private in 2002? How much debt do you right off per year and hw much is spent in terms of resources chasing these debts...in house debt procedures and selling debt to outside companies to collect etc....per year breakdown

Q14 how do you expect this universal credit scheme to effect your business in terms of resources and effort needed to collect rent and how it will effect the arrears figure.

Q15 how many court appearances for eviction, rental payment agreements and notice to quit, notice of seeking possession have been issued per year since 2002? What were the figures prior to 2002?

Q16 how many restructures have taken place since the restructure of transfer from the council. Group restructures and area restructures? What were the costs of these restructures?

Q17 how many of your staff including directors etc taken time off sick? How much of that was related to stress,illness and how much time was taken off due to investigations. What staff criticisms have you received for these investigations. ( note ask for all figures before and after stock transfer)

Once you are lucky enough to get these answers, you need more then luck...ask to see the audit reports for the last decade and have good laugh at its areas of improvement!

Of course I say all this without prejudice as that's how their employees say it..they are too scared or intimated to speak out or even question. Those that do are often seen leaving their jobs soon after.

The varisty,queens and other local city centre establishments are good spot to catch these ex and current employees who will open your eyes to wastage....best to do your own investigations rather then rely on the one sided positiveness of marketing and media.

Ps no harm in asking questions or making inquires.

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

saddo - there is more to life that a drug fuelled one. Some of us live in the real world, work for a living and pay our taxes to keep people like you. AND PROUD OF IT!

Not so simple wrote:

Not so simple wrote:
Earth calling. Being said without prejudice and taken from good sources.

I have been an avid visitor to various pubs a d bars in the city, some of these are frequented by council staff and ex council staff. These bars also have employees of MP's and councillors popping in and having a few pints in between the snail pace of work. Beleive me there are an awful lot of disgruntled staff which have finally started to awake from the slumber imposed upon them by the fact they work with or have worked with the council.

Many openly slate the council and it's various departments.

One shocking fact was how cleverly and without much hinderence the council privatised it's housing stock of around 26,000 properties right under the noses of the people of Bradford whilst hiding behind the mask of stock transfer.

One example is the housing stock of Bradford council.

This stock is now in the hands of a private company....run by the same people who used to run it when it was under the councils asset.

The whole point of privatisation of the housing stock was to get the estates modernised and build more dwellings.

It's happened...build a few properties, modernise a few and demolish or sell off the rest! Many more still require modernising, many more still need to be built. This was supposed to occur within ten years or was it five...never mind as with everything this slack council does it just messes it up.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the Incommunities owes? Owes to bankers. Also ask how many staff have been made redundant or have left in the past decade. Also check how much money was spenton the modernisation and aquision of its new premises and HQ. how much grants it recieved to move out of old council offices? the numbers will make you sick.

The entire episode of BCHT and Incommunities stinks in my opinion. The involvement of the blessings from the council also stink.

The MP's of Bradford and district do not seem to be bothered that hundreds of millions of pounds of housing stock which returns millions in rent every year was sold off...let alone without the consent of the majority of bradfordians.

Yes, we the Bradfordians were never asked about our housing stock. These morons just decided to ask a handful of tenants via the "consultations" and many unkept promises with sweetness for various residents groups to vote in favour.

This is blatant underhand dealing and stinks of corruption and a rushed decision to abandon the housing stock, the same housing stock which belongs to all residents of Bradford..past residents and future residents.

I say again, get rid of the MP's and councillors at the next election as from the last fifty years we can see that these vandals, economic hooligans have no intention to allow this city or it's suburbs to flourish or prosper.

I have attended many meetings, wrote various letters on various matters..,,the council,Incommunitie


s and other depts are blatanyly frustrating to work with....delay after delay, investigation after investigation, costings and surveys after costings and surveys (odeon and Westfield). What a bunch of jokers...no offence to circus clowns and stand up funny people.

I dare anyone to ask a few questions to the housing provider.

Q1 how many households voted 'for' stock transfer? How many households were entitled to vote? Do the record and counts/audits still exist?

Q2 how much money was borrowed from the various lenders and how much more is expected to be borrowed?

Q3 how much money do you currently owe to the various lenders/partners?

Q4 how many directors and cheif execs have come and gone? What was their redundancy/retiremen


t/pay offs?

Q5 how many properties have you made since 1975?

Q6 how many have you demolished since 2002?

Q7 how many are awaiting strategic decisions, laying around empty? Or have in the past?

Q8 how did the current group cheif executive get her job? Can you clarify her progress from the days she started working and her super fast rise to her current job?

Q9 who are the present people on the shadow board? Actually how many boards do you have?

q10 who were the people from the council asking for stock transfer to occur? Where are they now?

Q 11 how many properties and land have been sold or leased out to others via tenders or private agreements?

Q12 how many of your properties since 2002 have been given out via this term management let? How many we're given out prior to 2002? How many people do you have on the housing list...how many are homeless?

Q13 how much rent do you collect per year from the properties, each year since 2002? How much rent is outstanding or owed or each year? How much debt was written off when when the housing became private in 2002? How much debt do you right off per year and hw much is spent in terms of resources chasing these debts...in house debt procedures and selling debt to outside companies to collect etc....per year breakdown

Q14 how do you expect this universal credit scheme to effect your business in terms of resources and effort needed to collect rent and how it will effect the arrears figure.

Q15 how many court appearances for eviction, rental payment agreements and notice to quit, notice of seeking possession have been issued per year since 2002? What were the figures prior to 2002?

Q16 how many restructures have taken place since the restructure of transfer from the council. Group restructures and area restructures? What were the costs of these restructures?

Q17 how many of your staff including directors etc taken time off sick? How much of that was related to stress,illness and how much time was taken off due to investigations. What staff criticisms have you received for these investigations. ( note ask for all figures before and after stock transfer)

Once you are lucky enough to get these answers, you need more then luck...ask to see the audit reports for the last decade and have good laugh at its areas of improvement!

Of course I say all this without prejudice as that's how their employees say it..they are too scared or intimated to speak out or even question. Those that do are often seen leaving their jobs soon after.

The varisty,queens and other local city centre establishments are good spot to catch these ex and current employees who will open your eyes to wastage....best to do your own investigations rather then rely on the one sided positiveness of marketing and media.

Ps no harm in asking questions or making inquires.

Admire your spirit but honestly I think the decent people of this City know what you are saying but really the rot set in years ago and is too far gone to put right. What a shame!

Yorkshire Lass wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

Not so simple wrote:
Earth calling. Being said without prejudice and taken from good sources.

I have been an avid visitor to various pubs a d bars in the city, some of these are frequented by council staff and ex council staff. These bars also have employees of MP's and councillors popping in and having a few pints in between the snail pace of work. Beleive me there are an awful lot of disgruntled staff which have finally started to awake from the slumber imposed upon them by the fact they work with or have worked with the council.

Many openly slate the council and it's various departments.

One shocking fact was how cleverly and without much hinderence the council privatised it's housing stock of around 26,000 properties right under the noses of the people of Bradford whilst hiding behind the mask of stock transfer.

One example is the housing stock of Bradford council.

This stock is now in the hands of a private company....run by the same people who used to run it when it was under the councils asset.

The whole point of privatisation of the housing stock was to get the estates modernised and build more dwellings.

It's happened...build a few properties, modernise a few and demolish or sell off the rest! Many more still require modernising, many more still need to be built. This was supposed to occur within ten years or was it five...never mind as with everything this slack council does it just messes it up.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the Incommunities owes? Owes to bankers. Also ask how many staff have been made redundant or have left in the past decade. Also check how much money was spenton the modernisation and aquision of its new premises and HQ. how much grants it recieved to move out of old council offices? the numbers will make you sick.

The entire episode of BCHT and Incommunities stinks in my opinion. The involvement of the blessings from the council also stink.

The MP's of Bradford and district do not seem to be bothered that hundreds of millions of pounds of housing stock which returns millions in rent every year was sold off...let alone without the consent of the majority of bradfordians.

Yes, we the Bradfordians were never asked about our housing stock. These morons just decided to ask a handful of tenants via the "consultations" and many unkept promises with sweetness for various residents groups to vote in favour.

This is blatant underhand dealing and stinks of corruption and a rushed decision to abandon the housing stock, the same housing stock which belongs to all residents of Bradford..past residents and future residents.

I say again, get rid of the MP's and councillors at the next election as from the last fifty years we can see that these vandals, economic hooligans have no intention to allow this city or it's suburbs to flourish or prosper.

I have attended many meetings, wrote various letters on various matters..,,the council,Incommunitie



s and other depts are blatanyly frustrating to work with....delay after delay, investigation after investigation, costings and surveys after costings and surveys (odeon and Westfield). What a bunch of jokers...no offence to circus clowns and stand up funny people.

I dare anyone to ask a few questions to the housing provider.

Q1 how many households voted 'for' stock transfer? How many households were entitled to vote? Do the record and counts/audits still exist?

Q2 how much money was borrowed from the various lenders and how much more is expected to be borrowed?

Q3 how much money do you currently owe to the various lenders/partners?

Q4 how many directors and cheif execs have come and gone? What was their redundancy/retiremen



t/pay offs?

Q5 how many properties have you made since 1975?

Q6 how many have you demolished since 2002?

Q7 how many are awaiting strategic decisions, laying around empty? Or have in the past?

Q8 how did the current group cheif executive get her job? Can you clarify her progress from the days she started working and her super fast rise to her current job?

Q9 who are the present people on the shadow board? Actually how many boards do you have?

q10 who were the people from the council asking for stock transfer to occur? Where are they now?

Q 11 how many properties and land have been sold or leased out to others via tenders or private agreements?

Q12 how many of your properties since 2002 have been given out via this term management let? How many we're given out prior to 2002? How many people do you have on the housing list...how many are homeless?

Q13 how much rent do you collect per year from the properties, each year since 2002? How much rent is outstanding or owed or each year? How much debt was written off when when the housing became private in 2002? How much debt do you right off per year and hw much is spent in terms of resources chasing these debts...in house debt procedures and selling debt to outside companies to collect etc....per year breakdown

Q14 how do you expect this universal credit scheme to effect your business in terms of resources and effort needed to collect rent and how it will effect the arrears figure.

Q15 how many court appearances for eviction, rental payment agreements and notice to quit, notice of seeking possession have been issued per year since 2002? What were the figures prior to 2002?

Q16 how many restructures have taken place since the restructure of transfer from the council. Group restructures and area restructures? What were the costs of these restructures?

Q17 how many of your staff including directors etc taken time off sick? How much of that was related to stress,illness and how much time was taken off due to investigations. What staff criticisms have you received for these investigations. ( note ask for all figures before and after stock transfer)

Once you are lucky enough to get these answers, you need more then luck...ask to see the audit reports for the last decade and have good laugh at its areas of improvement!

Of course I say all this without prejudice as that's how their employees say it..they are too scared or intimated to speak out or even question. Those that do are often seen leaving their jobs soon after.

The varisty,queens and other local city centre establishments are good spot to catch these ex and current employees who will open your eyes to wastage....best to do your own investigations rather then rely on the one sided positiveness of marketing and media.

Ps no harm in asking questions or making inquires.

Admire your spirit but honestly I think the decent people of this City know what you are saying but really the rot set in years ago and is too far gone to put right. What a shame!

With an extremely unhappy heart I have to agree.

Yorkshire Lass wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

saddo - there is more to life that a drug fuelled one. Some of us live in the real world, work for a living and pay our taxes to keep people like you. AND PROUD OF IT!

So we should carry on with the highly unsuccessful and expensive failed policy that we have been persuing for decades so as to appease your prejudices?
I thought you were paying your taxes to fund illegal wars and bail out bankers, am I wrong?

Yorkshire Lass wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

Not so simple wrote:
Earth calling. Being said without prejudice and taken from good sources.

I have been an avid visitor to various pubs a d bars in the city, some of these are frequented by council staff and ex council staff. These bars also have employees of MP's and councillors popping in and having a few pints in between the snail pace of work. Beleive me there are an awful lot of disgruntled staff which have finally started to awake from the slumber imposed upon them by the fact they work with or have worked with the council.

Many openly slate the council and it's various departments.

One shocking fact was how cleverly and without much hinderence the council privatised it's housing stock of around 26,000 properties right under the noses of the people of Bradford whilst hiding behind the mask of stock transfer.

One example is the housing stock of Bradford council.

This stock is now in the hands of a private company....run by the same people who used to run it when it was under the councils asset.

The whole point of privatisation of the housing stock was to get the estates modernised and build more dwellings.

It's happened...build a few properties, modernise a few and demolish or sell off the rest! Many more still require modernising, many more still need to be built. This was supposed to occur within ten years or was it five...never mind as with everything this slack council does it just messes it up.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to how much the Incommunities owes? Owes to bankers. Also ask how many staff have been made redundant or have left in the past decade. Also check how much money was spenton the modernisation and aquision of its new premises and HQ. how much grants it recieved to move out of old council offices? the numbers will make you sick.

The entire episode of BCHT and Incommunities stinks in my opinion. The involvement of the blessings from the council also stink.

The MP's of Bradford and district do not seem to be bothered that hundreds of millions of pounds of housing stock which returns millions in rent every year was sold off...let alone without the consent of the majority of bradfordians.

Yes, we the Bradfordians were never asked about our housing stock. These morons just decided to ask a handful of tenants via the "consultations" and many unkept promises with sweetness for various residents groups to vote in favour.

This is blatant underhand dealing and stinks of corruption and a rushed decision to abandon the housing stock, the same housing stock which belongs to all residents of Bradford..past residents and future residents.

I say again, get rid of the MP's and councillors at the next election as from the last fifty years we can see that these vandals, economic hooligans have no intention to allow this city or it's suburbs to flourish or prosper.

I have attended many meetings, wrote various letters on various matters..,,the council,Incommunitie



s and other depts are blatanyly frustrating to work with....delay after delay, investigation after investigation, costings and surveys after costings and surveys (odeon and Westfield). What a bunch of jokers...no offence to circus clowns and stand up funny people.

I dare anyone to ask a few questions to the housing provider.

Q1 how many households voted 'for' stock transfer? How many households were entitled to vote? Do the record and counts/audits still exist?

Q2 how much money was borrowed from the various lenders and how much more is expected to be borrowed?

Q3 how much money do you currently owe to the various lenders/partners?

Q4 how many directors and cheif execs have come and gone? What was their redundancy/retiremen



t/pay offs?

Q5 how many properties have you made since 1975?

Q6 how many have you demolished since 2002?

Q7 how many are awaiting strategic decisions, laying around empty? Or have in the past?

Q8 how did the current group cheif executive get her job? Can you clarify her progress from the days she started working and her super fast rise to her current job?

Q9 who are the present people on the shadow board? Actually how many boards do you have?

q10 who were the people from the council asking for stock transfer to occur? Where are they now?

Q 11 how many properties and land have been sold or leased out to others via tenders or private agreements?

Q12 how many of your properties since 2002 have been given out via this term management let? How many we're given out prior to 2002? How many people do you have on the housing list...how many are homeless?

Q13 how much rent do you collect per year from the properties, each year since 2002? How much rent is outstanding or owed or each year? How much debt was written off when when the housing became private in 2002? How much debt do you right off per year and hw much is spent in terms of resources chasing these debts...in house debt procedures and selling debt to outside companies to collect etc....per year breakdown

Q14 how do you expect this universal credit scheme to effect your business in terms of resources and effort needed to collect rent and how it will effect the arrears figure.

Q15 how many court appearances for eviction, rental payment agreements and notice to quit, notice of seeking possession have been issued per year since 2002? What were the figures prior to 2002?

Q16 how many restructures have taken place since the restructure of transfer from the council. Group restructures and area restructures? What were the costs of these restructures?

Q17 how many of your staff including directors etc taken time off sick? How much of that was related to stress,illness and how much time was taken off due to investigations. What staff criticisms have you received for these investigations. ( note ask for all figures before and after stock transfer)

Once you are lucky enough to get these answers, you need more then luck...ask to see the audit reports for the last decade and have good laugh at its areas of improvement!

Of course I say all this without prejudice as that's how their employees say it..they are too scared or intimated to speak out or even question. Those that do are often seen leaving their jobs soon after.

The varisty,queens and other local city centre establishments are good spot to catch these ex and current employees who will open your eyes to wastage....best to do your own investigations rather then rely on the one sided positiveness of marketing and media.

Ps no harm in asking questions or making inquires.

Admire your spirit but honestly I think the decent people of this City know what you are saying but really the rot set in years ago and is too far gone to put right. What a shame!

Agree, the rot set in years ago and the folk of this city are used to failure, stench of corruption,oversight from our so called public and private bodies.

This city deserves much better then the current set of tripe we have running the show.

Most of this information was gathered after years of listening to employees and other public sector workers. These voices are easily silenced by bureaucratic red tape.

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

There is that much corruption in this city in all departments that the powers that be dare not investigate it.

collos25 wrote:
There is that much corruption in this city in all departments that the powers that be dare not investigate it.

Investigate? They have no idea how to investigate. They investigate themselves, set their own investigational paths as to who and what to investigate,what to ask and what not to ask. I have known of investigations where those potentially implicated are setting the criteria for the investigation....tal
k about conflict of interests.

Stinks and proper stinks!

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

Yes I've seen it. I've also seen articles on Cancer Research UK that say much the same about the properties of cannabis as Rick Simpson. I'm very much for real as I believe the only way of tackling the crime that revolves around the supply chain is to take the trade out of their hands. If we were to adopt a taxed and regulated system it would bring in around £6.7bn in tax per year as well as freeing up our police, courts and prison services to deal with crimes with victims.

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

Yes I've seen it. I've also seen articles on Cancer Research UK that say much the same about the properties of cannabis as Rick Simpson. I'm very much for real as I believe the only way of tackling the crime that revolves around the supply chain is to take the trade out of their hands. If we were to adopt a taxed and regulated system it would bring in around £6.7bn in tax per year as well as freeing up our police, courts and prison services to deal with crimes with victims.

Agree with you on Take the trade out of their hands?

No chance.

First understand the opiate wars.

Then understand who "their hands " are in terms of the opiate wars, a certain American chap called Mr Russell who used his smuggler money to create secret societies namely the skull and bones...the members of this society then arranged a war on terror and now control the opium,ganja,coke producing countries in the world...just a coincidence:

No way the govt or any other agency would allow crime to drop. They need the police to enforce their illegal laws upon the poor,misinformed citizens who are really called freeman on the land.
No way would any health watchdog allow the profits of big pharmaceuticals drop.

Many think tanks which are government inspired are and have suggsted that population fall/cull is the best way to reduce global warming and relieve the pressure on the planet.
Complete nonsense but you gotta take into account who is backing these groups and boy are these guys serious.

This Simpson chap from the run from the cure series....has over 5000 proven cases of people who have been cured using this herb, yet the lawyers and health and safety folk from each country are dying to lock this guy up.

We all have a right,god given right to self medicate. Don't let any power say otherwise as that's a breach of our constitution .

The sooner we learn and understand our rights and laws..common law, the sooner we can stop the abuse of power by the powers that be.

Shame is that only a handful of people are aware of this and they are also fast disappearing generation after generation.

The new ones need spoon feeding...to an extent it's ok, but they have got to learn to learn for themselves and understand what is human law and what is company law. We humans are much higher then any company.

These things always happen when I'm short of cash. Destiny suggests that one day I'll get lucky!

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

Yes I've seen it. I've also seen articles on Cancer Research UK that say much the same about the properties of cannabis as Rick Simpson. I'm very much for real as I believe the only way of tackling the crime that revolves around the supply chain is to take the trade out of their hands. If we were to adopt a taxed and regulated system it would bring in around £6.7bn in tax per year as well as freeing up our police, courts and prison services to deal with crimes with victims.

Agree with you on Take the trade out of their hands?

No chance.

First understand the opiate wars.

Then understand who "their hands " are in terms of the opiate wars, a certain American chap called Mr Russell who used his smuggler money to create secret societies namely the skull and bones...the members of this society then arranged a war on terror and now control the opium,ganja,coke producing countries in the world...just a coincidence:

No way the govt or any other agency would allow crime to drop. They need the police to enforce their illegal laws upon the poor,misinformed citizens who are really called freeman on the land.
No way would any health watchdog allow the profits of big pharmaceuticals drop.

Many think tanks which are government inspired are and have suggsted that population fall/cull is the best way to reduce global warming and relieve the pressure on the planet.
Complete nonsense but you gotta take into account who is backing these groups and boy are these guys serious.

This Simpson chap from the run from the cure series....has over 5000 proven cases of people who have been cured using this herb, yet the lawyers and health and safety folk from each country are dying to lock this guy up.

We all have a right,god given right to self medicate. Don't let any power say otherwise as that's a breach of our constitution .

The sooner we learn and understand our rights and laws..common law, the sooner we can stop the abuse of power by the powers that be.

Shame is that only a handful of people are aware of this and they are also fast disappearing generation after generation.

The new ones need spoon feeding...to an extent it's ok, but they have got to learn to learn for themselves and understand what is human law and what is company law. We humans are much higher then any company.

Believe me I know exactly what you are saying. I'm aware of the goals of agenda 21. I'm aware of the Skull and Bones and the hypocracy of American Presidents shaking hands with Israeli prime ministers after their father/grandfather Prescott had funded the Nazis through the union banking corperation. I'm aware of how the drugs war was started as a way for the Americans to discourage immigration and how the paper and petrochemical industries backed it so as to end competition from hemp. I'm aware that the police enforce corperate law and entrap you using legal fictions to make believe that these laws apply to you. I'm also aware that historically the biggest opium dealers are the British government. To me all these thing are a given, what I don't understand is why people continue to accept this crap and attack anyone who suggests there may be another way.

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

Yes I've seen it. I've also seen articles on Cancer Research UK that say much the same about the properties of cannabis as Rick Simpson. I'm very much for real as I believe the only way of tackling the crime that revolves around the supply chain is to take the trade out of their hands. If we were to adopt a taxed and regulated system it would bring in around £6.7bn in tax per year as well as freeing up our police, courts and prison services to deal with crimes with victims.

Agree with you on Take the trade out of their hands?

No chance.

First understand the opiate wars.

Then understand who "their hands " are in terms of the opiate wars, a certain American chap called Mr Russell who used his smuggler money to create secret societies namely the skull and bones...the members of this society then arranged a war on terror and now control the opium,ganja,coke producing countries in the world...just a coincidence:

No way the govt or any other agency would allow crime to drop. They need the police to enforce their illegal laws upon the poor,misinformed citizens who are really called freeman on the land.
No way would any health watchdog allow the profits of big pharmaceuticals drop.

Many think tanks which are government inspired are and have suggsted that population fall/cull is the best way to reduce global warming and relieve the pressure on the planet.
Complete nonsense but you gotta take into account who is backing these groups and boy are these guys serious.

This Simpson chap from the run from the cure series....has over 5000 proven cases of people who have been cured using this herb, yet the lawyers and health and safety folk from each country are dying to lock this guy up.

We all have a right,god given right to self medicate. Don't let any power say otherwise as that's a breach of our constitution .

The sooner we learn and understand our rights and laws..common law, the sooner we can stop the abuse of power by the powers that be.

Shame is that only a handful of people are aware of this and they are also fast disappearing generation after generation.

The new ones need spoon feeding...to an extent it's ok, but they have got to learn to learn for themselves and understand what is human law and what is company law. We humans are much higher then any company.

Believe me I know exactly what you are saying. I'm aware of the goals of agenda 21. I'm aware of the Skull and Bones and the hypocracy of American Presidents shaking hands with Israeli prime ministers after their father/grandfather Prescott had funded the Nazis through the union banking corperation. I'm aware of how the drugs war was started as a way for the Americans to discourage immigration and how the paper and petrochemical industries backed it so as to end competition from hemp. I'm aware that the police enforce corperate law and entrap you using legal fictions to make believe that these laws apply to you. I'm also aware that historically the biggest opium dealers are the British government. To me all these thing are a given, what I don't understand is why people continue to accept this crap and attack anyone who suggests there may be another way.

Because most individuals are fundamentally scared; and domestication is an integral part of human nature. You can see how the states offer of false security and a subservient life is appealing to the masses. Society is born! When WE know we are all just trying to get along. (No tory pun intended) Anyone outside this group (society) is outside the group and an easy target.

Outraged English Subject wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

Yes I've seen it. I've also seen articles on Cancer Research UK that say much the same about the properties of cannabis as Rick Simpson. I'm very much for real as I believe the only way of tackling the crime that revolves around the supply chain is to take the trade out of their hands. If we were to adopt a taxed and regulated system it would bring in around £6.7bn in tax per year as well as freeing up our police, courts and prison services to deal with crimes with victims.

Agree with you on Take the trade out of their hands?

No chance.

First understand the opiate wars.

Then understand who "their hands " are in terms of the opiate wars, a certain American chap called Mr Russell who used his smuggler money to create secret societies namely the skull and bones...the members of this society then arranged a war on terror and now control the opium,ganja,coke producing countries in the world...just a coincidence:

No way the govt or any other agency would allow crime to drop. They need the police to enforce their illegal laws upon the poor,misinformed citizens who are really called freeman on the land.
No way would any health watchdog allow the profits of big pharmaceuticals drop.

Many think tanks which are government inspired are and have suggsted that population fall/cull is the best way to reduce global warming and relieve the pressure on the planet.
Complete nonsense but you gotta take into account who is backing these groups and boy are these guys serious.

This Simpson chap from the run from the cure series....has over 5000 proven cases of people who have been cured using this herb, yet the lawyers and health and safety folk from each country are dying to lock this guy up.

We all have a right,god given right to self medicate. Don't let any power say otherwise as that's a breach of our constitution .

The sooner we learn and understand our rights and laws..common law, the sooner we can stop the abuse of power by the powers that be.

Shame is that only a handful of people are aware of this and they are also fast disappearing generation after generation.

The new ones need spoon feeding...to an extent it's ok, but they have got to learn to learn for themselves and understand what is human law and what is company law. We humans are much higher then any company.

Believe me I know exactly what you are saying. I'm aware of the goals of agenda 21. I'm aware of the Skull and Bones and the hypocracy of American Presidents shaking hands with Israeli prime ministers after their father/grandfather Prescott had funded the Nazis through the union banking corperation. I'm aware of how the drugs war was started as a way for the Americans to discourage immigration and how the paper and petrochemical industries backed it so as to end competition from hemp. I'm aware that the police enforce corperate law and entrap you using legal fictions to make believe that these laws apply to you. I'm also aware that historically the biggest opium dealers are the British government. To me all these thing are a given, what I don't understand is why people continue to accept this crap and attack anyone who suggests there may be another way.

Because most individuals are fundamentally scared; and domestication is an integral part of human nature. You can see how the states offer of false security and a subservient life is appealing to the masses. Society is born! When WE know we are all just trying to get along. (No tory pun intended) Anyone outside this group (society) is outside the group and an easy target.

Put it simply, your either in the elitist group or your are out of it.

Basically if you have a heart then you will never be in these groups!

Outraged English Subject wrote:
There’s that old bad smell again!

Along with the sock puppet.

Albion. wrote:

Outraged English Subject wrote:
There’s that old bad smell again!

Along with the sock puppet.

The “old smell” refers to the stench of cannabis which as a self-admitted long term USER! You should be fully aware of! Talk about calling the kettle black. You are surely living up to the description asinine.

Not so simple wrote:

Outraged English Subject wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
If you could only convince David Cameron to change his stance as one of the only people in the country who doesn't favour a change in the law regarding cannabis, you could offer these buildings with a licence to use them as dispensaries with grow rooms on the upper floors. They would be snapped up in no time

You for real?

Wonder if you've seen "run from the cure"

Yes I've seen it. I've also seen articles on Cancer Research UK that say much the same about the properties of cannabis as Rick Simpson. I'm very much for real as I believe the only way of tackling the crime that revolves around the supply chain is to take the trade out of their hands. If we were to adopt a taxed and regulated system it would bring in around £6.7bn in tax per year as well as freeing up our police, courts and prison services to deal with crimes with victims.

Agree with you on Take the trade out of their hands?

No chance.

First understand the opiate wars.

Then understand who "their hands " are in terms of the opiate wars, a certain American chap called Mr Russell who used his smuggler money to create secret societies namely the skull and bones...the members of this society then arranged a war on terror and now control the opium,ganja,coke producing countries in the world...just a coincidence:

No way the govt or any other agency would allow crime to drop. They need the police to enforce their illegal laws upon the poor,misinformed citizens who are really called freeman on the land.
No way would any health watchdog allow the profits of big pharmaceuticals drop.

Many think tanks which are government inspired are and have suggsted that population fall/cull is the best way to reduce global warming and relieve the pressure on the planet.
Complete nonsense but you gotta take into account who is backing these groups and boy are these guys serious.

This Simpson chap from the run from the cure series....has over 5000 proven cases of people who have been cured using this herb, yet the lawyers and health and safety folk from each country are dying to lock this guy up.

We all have a right,god given right to self medicate. Don't let any power say otherwise as that's a breach of our constitution .

The sooner we learn and understand our rights and laws..common law, the sooner we can stop the abuse of power by the powers that be.

Shame is that only a handful of people are aware of this and they are also fast disappearing generation after generation.

The new ones need spoon feeding...to an extent it's ok, but they have got to learn to learn for themselves and understand what is human law and what is company law. We humans are much higher then any company.

Believe me I know exactly what you are saying. I'm aware of the goals of agenda 21. I'm aware of the Skull and Bones and the hypocracy of American Presidents shaking hands with Israeli prime ministers after their father/grandfather Prescott had funded the Nazis through the union banking corperation. I'm aware of how the drugs war was started as a way for the Americans to discourage immigration and how the paper and petrochemical industries backed it so as to end competition from hemp. I'm aware that the police enforce corperate law and entrap you using legal fictions to make believe that these laws apply to you. I'm also aware that historically the biggest opium dealers are the British government. To me all these thing are a given, what I don't understand is why people continue to accept this crap and attack anyone who suggests there may be another way.

Because most individuals are fundamentally scared; and domestication is an integral part of human nature. You can see how the states offer of false security and a subservient life is appealing to the masses. Society is born! When WE know we are all just trying to get along. (No tory pun intended) Anyone outside this group (society) is outside the group and an easy target.

Put it simply, your either in the elitist group or your are out of it.

Basically if you have a heart then you will never be in these groups!

Agree.