Pub's Wembley trip is in doubt over Bradford City tickets (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

webess wrote:
To be fair questions needs to be asked of the ticket allocation at Wembley.

The ground holds 90,000 - yet us and the Swans are getting just over 30,000 each. Where are the rest going?

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Why is this news.
Fans jump on bandwagon but have to wait whilst season ticket holders get their allocation first.
Thats not news.
Are they suggesting they have as much right as the 10000 who bought season tickets and turn up every week to watch crap like fleetwood and acrington?

oreilly.john.1990@go
oglemail.com wrote:
This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.

oreilly.john.1990@go
oglemail.com wrote:
This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.

OutOfBradford wrote:
8451 season ticket holders.

3 each = 25353 tickets.

31851 allocation

Remainder: 6498 tickets.

And that's if every Season Ticket holder buys all three of their allocation. Which they won't.

Not sure why the panic. PLENTY of tickets to go around for both Season Ticket holders and none season ticket holders.

I reckon they'll be 7k-8k left over when they go on General Sale.

Having said that, this woman's a bit of a mentalist if she thought she would just walk up to the ticket office and buy 55 tickets to herself! I don't even know where to begin with that!

Rich73 wrote:
proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets

Rambo wrote:

Rich73 wrote: proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets

Lets start a Facebook page and get a millionl likes, lets send donations. Hell, lets send our tickets to these poor sods. Come on everyone, GET THE 55 to WEMBLEY!

Rambo wrote:
Who gives a monkeys about Exeter and Oxford? They're not important... ----- You know after reading again what is this woman trying to do? Blame the club for her own stupidity? Trying to make a quick buck and it backfired? "if tickets do not go on general sale." Well they are, you would have known if you'd taken 5 minutes to read the website or a paper, or find out from one of these amazing 40 fans. She only found out about the ticketing system last night? Does she even know what shape a football is? This story just stinks of woman realises how stupid she has been, tries to blame everyone else. God knows what she thought she could achieve by going to the local paper. Charity? And according to the article she started taking payment "as soon as the bantams secured their spot". Were they all drunk?

Rich73 wrote:
just pray the 40 loyal supporters get their tickets & not the 15 who have jumped on the bandwagon

Rich73 wrote:
I'm being sarcastic

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
“Just because people aren’t season ticket holders doesn’t mean they’re not fans.”

True, but why should they be given priortity over fans who turn up week in week out to support the club. They are where they are, at the back of the queue where they deserve to be.

Bingban wrote:
C'mon Hannah isnt it the Second West pub? Where does this storey come from. Guess after these comments Ms Johnson aint so keen on coming forward with a correction

flapper1 wrote:
So fed up with people putting their sob stories in press and facebook hoping someone is gonna feel sorry for them then say ok you can have 55 tickets or whatever.So thick to book coaches and hotels without match tickets.

bantam style wrote:
Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55

bcfc1903 wrote:
Including ST/ flexi's i've heard David Baldwin say the club had nearer 10,000 holders of both. Regarding folk who haven't got either...i think there will be a good 5 or 6,000 left. Of the nine season tickets and flexi's we've got throughout our extended family in England and Ireland ..which gives us the opportunity to buy 27 tickets... we're actually purchasing nineteen...so don't panic...

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We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!

bantam style wrote:
Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

Rambo wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher.

And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.

Rambo wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher.

And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.

Shadrach Dingle wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.

I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Lets clear a few things up, there will be tickets on general sale.
We could sell out a semi final in our own city.
We got 4k for the 3rd round at home.

So bearing this in mind how come many who can't make it to VP for a semi final can suddenly make a final?
Season tickets are looked after without them there is no club. If a fan turns up to pay on the gate as they make out then they are stupid if they didn't think a flexicard was worth getting as it pays itself back after jusr 3 games at 25quid.
The people of this pub live in Bradford.
I would rather the exiled bantams get first choice who can't make games due to distance rather than a coach load who want a day out who live with walking distance of VP.
The woman is an idiot if she thought they would all be put on general sale to anyone.

PaddyBantam wrote:
But on that point Rambo - Do you get it?

bantam idiot wrote:
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know

bantam idiot wrote:
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bantam idiot wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know

Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.

bantam idiot wrote:
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know

nottrue92 wrote:
Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick!

CG1963 wrote:

nottrue92 wrote:
Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick!

Well then we will see you at Fleetwood? cant afford next home game but hey thats life!

bantam style wrote:
To all u clowns who r slagging the landlady off. Get a grip. Your all putting her down for being loyal and standing by her customers. And good on her. Dont het me wrong eberybody is entitled to a opinon. But i think they have it all wrong by allowing 3 tickets per season ticket holder or flexi ****. It should be 2 that would be alot fairer. Take my mate for example. He has bee going to city for over 40 years and he got made redundant last year and money was tight so he dindt buy a season ticket??? Wheres the sense in that?? He will now struggle to het to wembley to see wat he has dreamt about all his life. And me, i am in my mid 20s and i have been going home n away since i was 4 with my family i have had a season ticket18 year of my life and because i now hav my own house to run i can only afford to go to a few games. that do not make me a glory supporter.

CG1963 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bantam idiot wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know

Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.

5 thousand DUE for general sale? Do you work for the T&A or are you DBs spokesperson?. B.I said she enquired as to how she could buy tickets AFTER s/t and flexi holders and was told "not one would be on general sale".

arm grab man wrote:
How many of this bus load will be at the Gillingham game ?

Also does she and the T & A really think she is being harshly treat and should have the same right as a season ticket i think not.

Also if a third of this bus load had season tickets they could have bought the rest with their allocation and i bet they were amongst the half wits abusing the staff at VP yesterday

CG1963 wrote:

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .

Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Shadrach Dingle wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.

I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.

One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP.
The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final.
These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.

macca1969 wrote:

CG1963 wrote:

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .

Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.

Obviously supporting another team as city charge only 20 quid for games. Didn't even charge 30 quid for the semi final

Old Dave wrote:
In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real!

Old Dave wrote:
In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real!

Shadrach Dingle wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Shadrach Dingle wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.

I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.

One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP.
The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final.
These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.

That's funny but they're just the kind of fans you've been deriding and having a go at. In your world there's obviously one set of rules for your mates and one set of rules for everyone else. Aren't you the lucky one.

NorthernBull wrote:
it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ...

entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ...

doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!!

that is what you call missing a trick ..

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .

seasonticketholder wrote:

NorthernBull wrote:
it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ...

entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ...

doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!!

that is what you call missing a trick ..

Eloquent and correct.

Oldwestbowling wrote:
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.

Shadrach Dingle wrote:

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .

How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'.

The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans.

There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.

bantam idiot wrote:
do you lot not listen she did not try to ticket jump she asked how to buy them when they went on general sale

Shadrach Dingle wrote:

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .

How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'.

The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans.

There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest.

Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow.

There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade.

We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets?

I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed.

The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket.

This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest.

Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow.

There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade.

We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets?

I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards.

Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size.

#clueless

KnightMcCall wrote:

Oldwestbowling wrote:
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.

You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...

Oldwestbowling wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Oldwestbowling wrote:
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.

You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...

Perhaps you should read what's written before you spout off with silly insults. I wrote "If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers?". The operative word being "DON'T" meaning DO NOT!!

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club.

How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income?

Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth.

It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m.

Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too?

If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

czechbantam wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.

Andy2010 wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.

Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh

czechbantam wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.

Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh

Andy Get a life, mate

Andy2010 wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.

Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh

Andy Get a life, mate

Sorry please explain Why is it amongst a certain element of city supporters that unless you are praising the ground Parky walks on or hanging out in your season ticket gangs that you arent a fan and can never be one. Just goes to show I suppose.

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.

You said,

"What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club"

25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.

What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)

Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.

You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.

Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless

#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here

For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.

Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please

What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.

I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here

You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.

Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.

You said, "What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club" 25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.

I hope for your own santiy you arent a business advisor of any sorts...and oh dear god please dont tell me your a management accountant

czechbantam wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.

joeybcfc wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.

No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.

joeybcfc wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.

No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here.
As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.

Andy2010 wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.

No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.

For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky

Andy2010 wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

czechbantam wrote:

joeybcfc wrote:

PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket

Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.

What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.

No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.

For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky

bemusedbylife wrote:
Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????

bantam idiot wrote:
come on t&a put a stop to this womans persecution & print what she actually said & did

Danstarr69 wrote:

bemusedbylife wrote:
Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????

I will answer for them.

"Yes if we get a Premier League team in a cup. I only get time off work for big games. During the league games on Saturday's and Tuesday's they make me work, so it's pointless buying a Flexicard. It's also too expensive, even though they have the cheapest season tickets in the football league. I'd rather drink than go to a league game anyway. Another reason is I live 2 miles away from the ground which is too far for me to travel, even on my days off"

bantam idiot wrote:
can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information
she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so

Danstarr69 wrote:

bantam idiot wrote:
can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information
she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so

Funny how you never mentioned these 14 season tickets the 1st time you commented. I'm guessing that's because its bol*ocks. And I'm also guessing 'Bantam Style' is your alias seen as you commented at the same time describing the other 100+ commenters as 'clowns'

I'd stick to listening/watching us in the Second West if I were you, with your 53 mates and Hitler. (See http://YouTube/TheSe

condWest to get the joke)