Bradford Council reveals district's dog fouling hotspots (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Bradford Council reveals district's dog fouling hotspots
7:00am Monday 28th January 2013 in News
Coun Abdul Jabar in Great Horton, where the highest number of dog fouling complaints were received
Irresponsible owners who fail to clean up after their pets are being put under the spotlight after Bradford Council revealed a list of hotspots based on dog fouling complaints.
The Council has released a list of hot- spots, with 1,111 dog fouling reports received between January 1 and October 31 last year across the district, but officials have said catching offenders is ‘proving extremely difficult’.
A report about the issue, due to be discussed by Shipley Area Committee next week, says tackling the problem is a priority in the majority of wards in the area.
The report, prepared by a Council officer, said: “It is rare for a member of the public to know exactly who is responsible or they are reluctant to say who they are.
“The majority of dog walkers are out in the early morning and early evening and wardens have targeted early morning campaigns to address the issue.
“The service is aware of a number of hotspots and has targeted a number of initiatives on specific areas such as Roberts Park.”
Between January 1 and October 31 2012 there were 192 reports of dog fouling across the Baildon, Bingley, Bingley Rural, Shipley, Windhill and Wrose and Wharfedale wards. The highest number of complaints was 54 in Bingley.
Across the Bradford district there were 1,111 dog fouling reports, with Great Horton having the highest number at 65 and Wharfedale the lowest with seven.
Coun Kevin Warnes (Green, Shipley) said: “It’s one of these really difficult issues. You’ve got to witness people doing it to take action.”
Great Horton councillor Abdul Jabar (Lab) said he received lots of calls about dog fouling.
He said: “It’s a problem. I have calls from all over the ward. We do alert the wardens when we get complaints, but it’s very, very difficult because we don’t know what times the dog walkers are out to see them.”
His comments were echoed by Councillor Andrew Thorton, City Hall’s portfolio holder for the environment. He said that walkers who failed to clean up after their dogs could be issued with fines.
“If we have information, if people are prepared to say, ‘I saw so and so and they didn’t clear it up,’ then we can take action,” said Coun Thorton.
He added that the Council had increased the number of neighbourhood wardens who could issue fixed penalty notices.
The report, about street cleansing and Council warden services in Shipley, also refers to overgrown plants on pavements which stops them being cleaned properly. Committee members will also hear that fly-tipping has decreased.
The Shipley Area Committee meeting is on Wednesday at 6pm in the Queens Hall annexe, Main Street, Burley in Wharfedale.
Comments(55)
Joedavid
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8:31am Mon 28 Jan 13
webess
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8:35am Mon 28 Jan 13
I'm sick of dog owners insisting it's a small minority - it isn't. Most of them give a stuff about their pampered pets leaving nauseas piles of disease ridden faeces on our footpaths.
webess
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8:49am Mon 28 Jan 13
Joedavid wrote:Yeah..Come on Bradford Council, you're always boasting of your various "crackdowns" - have you ever taken any action against a single dog owner for fouling?
As action been taken against these dog owners and how many acted upon?
allannicho
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9:07am Mon 28 Jan 13
Cooperlane2
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9:27am Mon 28 Jan 13
I initially thought the list was for a special tourist guide attraction.
webess
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9:40am Mon 28 Jan 13
The word "could"issue FPN's implies they can but won't. Which begs the question as to why the council acts with zeal with car owners but will take zero action against dog owners?
Mik_e
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9:57am Mon 28 Jan 13
How is it difficult? The dogs and their owners are not invisible. The offences take place in public, not hidden from view. When I tried to report a dog fouling problem, I was told that the wardens only work Mon-Fri 9-5, perhaps if they worked early mornings and evenings they might actually do what they are paid to do and catch the culprits.
Not so simple
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10:14am Mon 28 Jan 13
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..put beepers and fax machines on the dogs bums so as soon as the poor beggar starts to loosen his bowels a beeper goes off at city hall who in turn will send a notice of intended prosecution to the dogs buttocks!
Forward thinking or what...ten years ahead when it comes to sh!te.
baccy2410
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10:26am Mon 28 Jan 13
BigFigure
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10:31am Mon 28 Jan 13
nowt fresh
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10:51am Mon 28 Jan 13
BigFigure wrote:Boundary changes mate..!!
Always thought Scholemoor Road was in Lidget Green.....silly me...
Andy2010
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11:17am Mon 28 Jan 13
webess
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11:36am Mon 28 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.
Albion.
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11:37am Mon 28 Jan 13
"He said: “It’s a problem. I have calls from all over the ward. We do alert the wardens when we get complaints, but it’s very, very difficult because we don’t know what times the dog walkers are out to see them.”"
What a pathetic response.
Farsley Bantam
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11:55am Mon 28 Jan 13
webess wrote:Eating dog turds on the way home? You should see someone about that
Andy2010 wrote: While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
Andy2010
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12:02pm Mon 28 Jan 13
webess wrote:Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road.
Andy2010 wrote:Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.
Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?
Bone_idle18
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12:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:Horse poo in the roads is potentially lethal for cyclist and motorcyclists.
webess wrote:Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road.
Andy2010 wrote:Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.
Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?
I've had a couple of near crashes skidding on host poo.
Bone_idle18
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12:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Victor Clayton
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12:51pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:horse poo - get a life
webess wrote:Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road. Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?Andy2010 wrote: While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
BD16
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12:56pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Bone_idle18 wrote:Host poo! What sort of parties do you go too?
Andy2010 wrote:Horse poo in the roads is potentially lethal for cyclist and motorcyclists. I've had a couple of near crashes skidding on host poo.webess wrote:Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road. Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?Andy2010 wrote: While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
Outraged English Subject
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1:18pm Mon 28 Jan 13
legallyblonde
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1:51pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:56pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Sort the major problems of the City out, stop trying to deflect attention onto lesser issues.
Andy2010
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1:59pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Victor Clayton wrote:Are you an offender ? Touched a nerve?
Andy2010 wrote:horse poo - get a life
webess wrote:Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road. Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?Andy2010 wrote: While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
RollandSmoke
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2:24pm Mon 28 Jan 13
david126
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2:25pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Avro
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2:54pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Avro
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2:57pm Mon 28 Jan 13
zippiehippie
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3:17pm Mon 28 Jan 13
"Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home" Hope you brushed your teeth after.
Patrick Bateman
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3:24pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Avro wrote:Yes, that surprised me too; particularly as I would have thought that the ward would have proportionately far less dogs (Asians not generally known for being dog-lovers). Less dogs but more dog muck? Draw your own conclusions..
Also interesting to see that the highest number of reports came for Great Horton!
Andy2010
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3:24pm Mon 28 Jan 13
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
Walruss
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4:33pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:It would appear that cats have more rights than Abu H and his family.
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
collos25
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5:04pm Mon 28 Jan 13
RollandSmoke
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5:48pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:Have a look see if there's a mainly white one with black patches on it's head. My Luka's been missing three and a half weeks now and the thought that he may be sh**ing in your garden has given me a renewed hope.
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
Outraged English Subject
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5:51pm Mon 28 Jan 13
WayneRouke
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6:10pm Mon 28 Jan 13
collos25 wrote:Well said.
Dogs or Horses it pails into insignifcance when compared with the rubbish and debris created and dumped by humans.I have never seen an animal fill the air with poisonous fumes or fill the rivers and streams with chemicals.Really dog fowling is just a drop in the ocean but it makes good headlines and as far as dog owners being nimbys surely that applies to all mankind.
Being a conscientious citizen, I recently reported an incident of fly tipping to the council.
I am now not one bit surprised why people cannot be bothered to do so. 38 minutes on the phone, ringing different people, passed from pillar to post, to be finally informed the council wont do it because the land is not owned by them.
I dont care who owns the land, I reported an incident of dumped rubbish, and wasted my own time and money doing so.
WR
emu999
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6:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13
seen it all before
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6:36pm Mon 28 Jan 13
12:02pm Mon 28 Jan 13
webess wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.
Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road.
Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?”
Cannot compare horse muck with dog sh*t ,. I would gladly pick up horse muck to make a good garden composte.
Dog sh*t is disgusting, and the owners should have the dogs taken off them and then distroyed, and iin some cases distroy the dogs as well.
Victor Clayton
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6:41pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:when was the last time you saw anyone rush out to collect dog **** for their roses? or anyone got blood poisoning from horse dropping on a football pitch? or anyone complain that they have stood in some horse poo and walked it through the house? just a silly comparison imo.
Victor Clayton wrote:Are you an offender ? Touched a nerve?
Andy2010 wrote:horse poo - get a life
webess wrote:Maybe it depends where you live but big steaming piles of horse turd just left in the middle of the road is disgusting...then cars have no choice but to drive through it spreading it further down the road. Why is nothing ever done about horse owners?Andy2010 wrote: While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.Horse muck isn't in the same league as dog mess, I used to enjoy walking to local chippy and eating them on the way home. It's so bad nowadays I'd be physically sick.
Outraged English Subject
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8:17pm Mon 28 Jan 13
WayneRouke wrote:Was it Bradford Council you reported it to? I did the same to Bradford Council twice, got same response, what a waste of my time and money, (Nothing we can do as it’s not our land) However when I reported some fly tipping in Shibden Valley HX3 to Halifax Council I was speaking to someone within twenty seconds, moreover, four days later I receive a call back saying action had been taken.
collos25 wrote:Well said.
Dogs or Horses it pails into insignifcance when compared with the rubbish and debris created and dumped by humans.I have never seen an animal fill the air with poisonous fumes or fill the rivers and streams with chemicals.Really dog fowling is just a drop in the ocean but it makes good headlines and as far as dog owners being nimbys surely that applies to all mankind.
Being a conscientious citizen, I recently reported an incident of fly tipping to the council.
I am now not one bit surprised why people cannot be bothered to do so. 38 minutes on the phone, ringing different people, passed from pillar to post, to be finally informed the council wont do it because the land is not owned by them.
I dont care who owns the land, I reported an incident of dumped rubbish, and wasted my own time and money doing so.
WR
ShineyDave
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10:26pm Mon 28 Jan 13
If something the size of the turds i've seen down Wyke Lane fell off the back of a wagon they'd be done for carrying an unsecure load and yet a Horse can empty it's load wherever it choses to with no comeback whatsoever.
to be harmed by Dog faeces you have to come in contact with it, unless you make a habit of touching it there's little risk.
zippy25
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10:27pm Mon 28 Jan 13
baccy2410 wrote:I agree baccy as i live in Thornton Market St is a dissgrace also a lot more parts in Thornton the same !!
Try checking out Market Street in Thornton it's like the dog loo of the village
Commonsensefirst
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11:56pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Avro
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8:36am Tue 29 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:I totally agree, cat crap is a disgusting discreet find when gardening, and they also dig your plants up in the process!
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
Andy2010
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8:50am Tue 29 Jan 13
Avro wrote:I got a nice cat surprise this morning with my front lawn covered in what only can be described as cat slurry....its disgusting having to clean up cat mess just because their lazy owners choose a pet they cant be bothered cleaning up after. I wouldnt mind so much if they dug up a little toilet to do it in but these disgusting creatures just do it in the middle of the lawn.
Andy2010 wrote:I totally agree, cat crap is a disgusting discreet find when gardening, and they also dig your plants up in the process!
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
I have tried everything to drive them away from them noise making things to pepper and various other things but nothing seems to work
Although I jest, ham covered in window cleaner might be next although might just upset the vermins stomach making the mess worse !!
Mutha.Slimer
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9:21am Tue 29 Jan 13
Andy2010 wrote:Not a legal offence for a horse to sh1t in public, never has been, one of those ancient rulings going back hundreds of years.
While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.
Andy2010
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9:49am Tue 29 Jan 13
Mutha.Slimer wrote:Thats why horse owners couldn't give a dam
Andy2010 wrote:Not a legal offence for a horse to sh1t in public, never has been, one of those ancient rulings going back hundreds of years.
While they are at it why not target horse owners as well. Fields and stables near me where they take their horses on the roads they just leave all the mess behind.
Commonsensefirst
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10:05pm Tue 29 Jan 13
Avro wrote:A pound shop in Bradford's Arndale Centre sells a Dog and Cat Repellent. It's great stuff. You sprinkle it on the path and part of the verge. The Dogs and Cats hate walking over the product and, for the most part, leave your garden alone. The only problem is that you need dry weather in which to use it. During rainy spells it's rendered useless.
Andy2010 wrote:I totally agree, cat crap is a disgusting discreet find when gardening, and they also dig your plants up in the process!
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
Andy2010
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11:06am Wed 30 Jan 13
Commonsensefirst wrote:So it works for about a week in a year lol
Avro wrote:A pound shop in Bradford's Arndale Centre sells a Dog and Cat Repellent. It's great stuff. You sprinkle it on the path and part of the verge. The Dogs and Cats hate walking over the product and, for the most part, leave your garden alone. The only problem is that you need dry weather in which to use it. During rainy spells it's rendered useless.
Andy2010 wrote:I totally agree, cat crap is a disgusting discreet find when gardening, and they also dig your plants up in the process!
RollandSmoke wrote:That should also apply to cats as well..
Dog fouling hotspots? Have they been thermal imaging the turds? There seems to be a glut of these stories over recent days, makes a change from the usual bullsh*t though. Seriously, pick up after your dog, those who do not are not responsible dog owners and should lose the animal and the right to keep any others.
Dirty little gits keep sh**ing in my garden but their owners being lazy cat owners obviously dont care
Outraged English Subject
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11:45am Thu 31 Jan 13
Outraged English Subject
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2:26pm Thu 31 Jan 13
Salts Fella
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4:36pm Thu 31 Jan 13
If they are too precious to pick up after Fido they shouldn't take it on in the first place. To ignore their responsibilities is plain anti-social. They must have no consideration for their neighbours and little empathy for anyone else.
Chances are, if they can't be bothered to pick up their mess, they probably don't bother worming the animal either.
It only takes one or two bad owners to give the rest a bad name - as dog mess tends to take about a month to break down - two poops a day equates to sixty piles of mess per dog per month - so one dog can soon litter a whole neighbourhood.
I am a dog owner, BTW, and I always clean up after my pooch wherever she poops - even in the local woods. I wouldn't want to step in it or have my dog dirtied by it, so I don't leave it to inconvenience others.
mrs walker
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10:28pm Fri 1 Feb 13
ShineyDave wrote:'Unless you come into contact with it there's little risk'
Agree with Bone_Idle and Andy2010, Horse muck in the road is absolutely lethal. Hit that on a Motorbike and you'll be off it in a breath.
If something the size of the turds i've seen down Wyke Lane fell off the back of a wagon they'd be done for carrying an unsecure load and yet a Horse can empty it's load wherever it choses to with no comeback whatsoever.
to be harmed by Dog faeces you have to come in contact with it, unless you make a habit of touching it there's little risk.
Like the huge numbers of people - almost always men - who seem to think it's acceptable to spit on the pavement, both faeces and phlegm transfer onto people's footwear. I usually wear my slippers in the house (lilac, fur trim, since you're wondering) but I don't ask guests to remove their shoes.
While I can see why motorcyclists and cyclists are inconvenienced by horse manure, it is rarely something that is trailed into a house on people's feet. And since cats bury theirs, it may be a pain - and unhygienic - for gardeners but is not the same public menace as dog faeces and human phlegm.
Incidentally the person who was throwing their dog poo over my garden wall in little peach coloured bags seems to have stopped the practice. Was it out of consideration or did Mr Walker catch you and feed it to you?
gladiator-mac
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8:40pm Fri 8 Feb 13
JAtkinson says...
8:03am Mon 28 Jan 13
Ba-bum, cha.