Debenhams bid to expand planned Bradford store approved (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Bradford City will reach a major cup final before this places gets underway :p

The Council Leader tweeted yesterday saying 'They have publicly stated they will start in first half of this year & it is approx 18 month build'

So this would suggest it's going to be open by Christmas 2014. Nothing in this story to back up that suggestion though.

I want nothing more than for this development to start and for people to be able to shop in our city once again, unfortunately I do not have any faith in Westfield at all and I will believe it when I see the builders back on the site

Seeing is believing!!! Its either the council or westfield and one cannot trust neither of them. With Debenhams coming forward this far lets wait and see what excuses westfield come out with! Btw whats the progress with the Odeon- sold or is the council still paying out £750,000 on scaffolding! :)

It won't happen, ever, and the waiting for it never to happen is only prolonging the centre's decline.

It really needs line drawn under it for the City to move forward.

angry bradfordian wrote:
The Council Leader tweeted yesterday saying 'They have publicly stated they will start in first half of this year & it is approx 18 month build'

So this would suggest it's going to be open by Christmas 2014. Nothing in this story to back up that suggestion though.

In actual fact, Westfield's chief operating officer (Peter Miller) was quoted back in November saying:

"The second half of 2013 was the aim and when pressed he agreed that with a fair wind the shopping centre could be open by Christmas 2015. But obviously that depends on when construction starts and that, in turn, is dependent on reaching a certain amount of pre-lets."

Read the full story it here..

http://www.estatesga
zette.com/blogs/focu
s/2012/11/westfield-
bradford-open-by-chr
istmas-2015.html

Its the same old story from these clowns which includes David Green, because only when the prerequisite number of pre-lets has been reached will the build get underway!

The final paragraph from Duncan Bower in todays report says it all regarding the current status of pre-lets:

"We continue to experience strong retailer demand for this retail opportunity and expect to announce new retailers to join Debenhams, Marks & Spencer and Next in the coming months.”

So its a case no further tenants secured, and that the number of pre-lets is no further forward from those previously anounced many months ago!

angry bradfordian wrote:
The Council Leader tweeted yesterday saying 'They have publicly stated they will start in first half of this year & it is approx 18 month build' So this would suggest it's going to be open by Christmas 2014. Nothing in this story to back up that suggestion though.

Didn't they say it would start last February, and went on look north to say so last year.

#we'veheardallthisbo
lloxbefore

If it doesn't start before Croydon (2015) then we are knackered until 2020.

Avro wrote:

angry bradfordian wrote:
The Council Leader tweeted yesterday saying 'They have publicly stated they will start in first half of this year & it is approx 18 month build'

So this would suggest it's going to be open by Christmas 2014. Nothing in this story to back up that suggestion though.

In actual fact, Westfield's chief operating officer (Peter Miller) was quoted back in November saying:

"The second half of 2013 was the aim and when pressed he agreed that with a fair wind the shopping centre could be open by Christmas 2015. But obviously that depends on when construction starts and that, in turn, is dependent on reaching a certain amount of pre-lets."

Read the full story it here..

http://www.estatesga

zette.com/blogs/focu

s/2012/11/westfield-

bradford-open-by-chr

istmas-2015.html

Its the same old story from these clowns which includes David Green, because only when the prerequisite number of pre-lets has been reached will the build get underway!

The final paragraph from Duncan Bower in todays report says it all regarding the current status of pre-lets:

"We continue to experience strong retailer demand for this retail opportunity and expect to announce new retailers to join Debenhams, Marks & Spencer and Next in the coming months.”

So its a case no further tenants secured, and that the number of pre-lets is no further forward from those previously anounced many months ago!

So, in summary it's not likely to start in the first half of 2013 and it's not an 18 month build.

Apart from that, Green's tweet was completely correct!

I think I heard on a report about the new shopping centre in Leeds, that it is to be the only such mall to open in Western Europe this year, which all adds to the suggestion that such places are very much in decline.
Debenhams is all well and good, but are there any other shops signed up? And more to the point, are any of them going to be new to the city and not end up adding to the decline of places such as Darley Street and the Arndale Centre by simply transferring locations and leaving yet more empty properties behind? I hope it gets built but I don't see it as the saviour of the city centre (I don't think there is one).

angry bradfordian wrote:

Avro wrote:

angry bradfordian wrote:
The Council Leader tweeted yesterday saying 'They have publicly stated they will start in first half of this year & it is approx 18 month build'

So this would suggest it's going to be open by Christmas 2014. Nothing in this story to back up that suggestion though.

In actual fact, Westfield's chief operating officer (Peter Miller) was quoted back in November saying:

"The second half of 2013 was the aim and when pressed he agreed that with a fair wind the shopping centre could be open by Christmas 2015. But obviously that depends on when construction starts and that, in turn, is dependent on reaching a certain amount of pre-lets."

Read the full story it here..

http://www.estatesga


zette.com/blogs/focu


s/2012/11/westfield-


bradford-open-by-chr


istmas-2015.html

Its the same old story from these clowns which includes David Green, because only when the prerequisite number of pre-lets has been reached will the build get underway!

The final paragraph from Duncan Bower in todays report says it all regarding the current status of pre-lets:

"We continue to experience strong retailer demand for this retail opportunity and expect to announce new retailers to join Debenhams, Marks & Spencer and Next in the coming months.”

So its a case no further tenants secured, and that the number of pre-lets is no further forward from those previously anounced many months ago!

So, in summary it's not likely to start in the first half of 2013 and it's not an 18 month build.

Apart from that, Green's tweet was completely correct!

But was OLD news!

Albion. wrote:
I think I heard on a report about the new shopping centre in Leeds, that it is to be the only such mall to open in Western Europe this year, which all adds to the suggestion that such places are very much in decline.
Debenhams is all well and good, but are there any other shops signed up? And more to the point, are any of them going to be new to the city and not end up adding to the decline of places such as Darley Street and the Arndale Centre by simply transferring locations and leaving yet more empty properties behind? I hope it gets built but I don't see it as the saviour of the city centre (I don't think there is one).

Trinity Leeds has been almost fully let for many months and is currently 90% let, and due to open March 21st after having brought 3,000 jobs with it!

On the other hand Westfield Bradford is NO further forward in having secured tenants than it was 6 months ago!

Mo Bradford wrote:
Seeing is believing!!! Its either the council or westfield and one cannot trust neither of them. With Debenhams coming forward this far lets wait and see what excuses westfield come out with! Btw whats the progress with the Odeon- sold or is the council still paying out £750,000 on scaffolding! :)

Are you sure the Council is paying that on the Odeon when they do not own it?

This codswallop AGAIN! Wake me up if it ever gets built!

Given the global publicity Bradford will be receiving in the next month I bet Westfield are bricking it about negative publicity they will get. I urge every City fan who gets a camera thrust in his/her face in the next month to mention the 'hole' and who's intransigence is responsible for it. We shouldn't accept any soundbites from the Aussie shysters either. Only written "legally-binding" agreements. Loads of companies will want to get on board the Wembley express so let's make sure we collect the fares before it sets off! I bet the CO-OP have been chuffed with the publicity they've received so far.

Did you know that Germany was rebuilt quicker after the war than this shopping centre.

Dream on. More chance of aliens landing than Bradford council and its partners filling the intelligence gap in their heads or plugging the city centre from draining away!
For a positive spin; Now where did I put me Bradford blinkers.

Just a thought, but who's going to sign up to a long term lease in Westfield with Trinity Leeds due to open in March, and once the success of that has been evaluated, then there will be space in Eastgate Quarters to consider...

i use to dream about westfield starting to build, NOW am having nightmares!!

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.php?p=87737109

Check this place out ..they seam to keep up with the news