Work starts on project to deter Nab Wood speeders

A sign indicating the Nab Wood traffic-calming roadworks

The details of the Nab Wood scheme

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Aire/Worth Valley Reporter

Work on the long-awaited Nab Wood traffic calming scheme begins on Sunday and is set to disrupt traffic for six weekends to come.

Fast-flowing Moorhead Lane is to get three raised “plateaux” – one at its junction with Avondale Road, another at the junction with Ashfield Road plus a third at the location of a zebra crossing.

Yellow plastic humps in Avondale and Grosvenor Road will be replaced with black ones and 13 other humps will be installed across the rest of Moorhead and Nab Wood with another raised plateau on Nab Wood Drive.

The work has been scheduled to take place mostly at weekends to try and limit disruption to drivers, buses and businesses.

Bradford councillors say the scheme will deter commuting drivers from using the network of residential streets to bypass Saltaire’s crowded Bingley Road.

However construction work means that temporary road closures will take place on those roads included in the new scheme to enable staff to work in safety.

When asked by the Telegraph & Argus, some local believed that people, especially those with children, would welcome a scheme to slow traffic and were convinced it would help cut the number of “rat-runners”.

But others, including pensioner Andrew Parker, believed that drivers would still break speed limits by sprinting between obstacles.

“Moorhead Lane is a main road and humps won’t cure the problem.

“Drivers will just speed in the gaps between them and it will make it difficult for vehicles which sometimes have to go fast like ambulances and police cars,” said Mr Parker, of Avondale Road.

“Cameras are the only things that slow people down – and they don’t even have to be working to do that,” he added.

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9:30am Fri 11 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Instead of wasting money on this, please can we have the numerous pot holes in the roads fixed that are doing untold damage to so many vehicles.

Instead of penalising the many to try and stop the few, why not give the many who drive with care and attention the road repairs they pay their taxes for.
Instead of wasting money on this, please can we have the numerous pot holes in the roads fixed that are doing untold damage to so many vehicles. Instead of penalising the many to try and stop the few, why not give the many who drive with care and attention the road repairs they pay their taxes for. Thee Voice of Reason
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9:31am Fri 11 Jan 13

angry bradfordian says...

Moorhead Lane is the main road to get between Shipley and Heaton.
How can people using this road be called 'rat-runners'?

Why aren't pedestrians made to be more accountable for their actions? I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people wandering across the road just yards from a proper crossing.

The council aren't going to be happy until they've got more speed humps than potholes in the city.
Moorhead Lane is the main road to get between Shipley and Heaton. How can people using this road be called 'rat-runners'? Why aren't pedestrians made to be more accountable for their actions? I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people wandering across the road just yards from a proper crossing. The council aren't going to be happy until they've got more speed humps than potholes in the city. angry bradfordian
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10:00am Fri 11 Jan 13

I'm sparticus says...

Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.
Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving. I'm sparticus
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10:15am Fri 11 Jan 13

angry bradfordian says...

I'm sparticus wrote:
Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.
But Moorhead Lane isn't a rat run. If you were driving from Shipley/Saltaire towards Heaton/Toller Lane it is the main route and the only alternative is to drive all the way to Cottingley or back to Emm Lane.

Not very good for the environment!
[quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.[/p][/quote]But Moorhead Lane isn't a rat run. If you were driving from Shipley/Saltaire towards Heaton/Toller Lane it is the main route and the only alternative is to drive all the way to Cottingley or back to Emm Lane. Not very good for the environment! angry bradfordian
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10:26am Fri 11 Jan 13

Albion. says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
I'm sparticus wrote:
Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.
But Moorhead Lane isn't a rat run. If you were driving from Shipley/Saltaire towards Heaton/Toller Lane it is the main route and the only alternative is to drive all the way to Cottingley or back to Emm Lane.

Not very good for the environment!
It is a rat-run in respect of drivers using it and other roads in the area to avoid the roundabout.
This is just a continuation of plans which started last year and there have been road humps in the area for a long time.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.[/p][/quote]But Moorhead Lane isn't a rat run. If you were driving from Shipley/Saltaire towards Heaton/Toller Lane it is the main route and the only alternative is to drive all the way to Cottingley or back to Emm Lane. Not very good for the environment![/p][/quote]It is a rat-run in respect of drivers using it and other roads in the area to avoid the roundabout. This is just a continuation of plans which started last year and there have been road humps in the area for a long time. Albion.
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10:38am Fri 11 Jan 13

I'm sparticus says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
I'm sparticus wrote: Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.
But Moorhead Lane isn't a rat run. If you were driving from Shipley/Saltaire towards Heaton/Toller Lane it is the main route and the only alternative is to drive all the way to Cottingley or back to Emm Lane. Not very good for the environment!
It is used as a rat run. people who queue from Bradford toward Saltaire roundabout use Avondale Road and then turn right down Moorhead Lane to beat the rush to the roundabout. Saltaire roundabout is the problem and until the issues there are sorted(god knows how!!) there will always be quicker routes on the back roads.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.[/p][/quote]But Moorhead Lane isn't a rat run. If you were driving from Shipley/Saltaire towards Heaton/Toller Lane it is the main route and the only alternative is to drive all the way to Cottingley or back to Emm Lane. Not very good for the environment![/p][/quote]It is used as a rat run. people who queue from Bradford toward Saltaire roundabout use Avondale Road and then turn right down Moorhead Lane to beat the rush to the roundabout. Saltaire roundabout is the problem and until the issues there are sorted(god knows how!!) there will always be quicker routes on the back roads. I'm sparticus
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10:48am Fri 11 Jan 13

webess says...

Why don't Bradford Highways downsize itself to the extent it only repairs the existing road network?

Everyone's fed up of its crackpot, jerry built schemes which not only waste tax money but lead to more dangerous and congested roads..
Why don't Bradford Highways downsize itself to the extent it only repairs the existing road network? Everyone's fed up of its crackpot, jerry built schemes which not only waste tax money but lead to more dangerous and congested roads.. webess
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10:48am Fri 11 Jan 13

markjoe says...

I'm sparticus wrote:
Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.
Every day wear and tear isn't covered under manufacturers warranties so the cost replacing the bushes (not sure how its spelt) is classed as this.
[quote][p][bold]I'm sparticus[/bold] wrote: Many people nowadays have vehicles that have manufacturers warranty(ie company cars) and are therefore not detered by repair costs from driving over these obstacles at speed. I have always wondered how much noise they cause for residents particularly during the early hours, it must be horendous. It wont deter people from using these routes. I have sat in traffic around saltaire roundabout and any 'rat run' even one with speed obstacles is still a faster option than not moving.[/p][/quote]Every day wear and tear isn't covered under manufacturers warranties so the cost replacing the bushes (not sure how its spelt) is classed as this. markjoe
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10:53am Fri 11 Jan 13

markjoe says...

The main problem is Saltaire roundabout has been for sometime now and the Bingley by-pass hasn't done anything to resolve the problem. Its clear to see this when the weather turns snowy or icy and motorists stick to the main road, it simply comes to a stand-still. Bradford council is supposed to be in some sort of West Yorkshire transport scheme so why isn't money from this being used to start the proposed alterations to Saltaire roundabout then these so called raised-plateaux wouldn't be needed, the trees near Victoria Road wouldn't need cutting down either.
The main problem is Saltaire roundabout has been for sometime now and the Bingley by-pass hasn't done anything to resolve the problem. Its clear to see this when the weather turns snowy or icy and motorists stick to the main road, it simply comes to a stand-still. Bradford council is supposed to be in some sort of West Yorkshire transport scheme so why isn't money from this being used to start the proposed alterations to Saltaire roundabout then these so called raised-plateaux wouldn't be needed, the trees near Victoria Road wouldn't need cutting down either. markjoe
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11:19am Fri 11 Jan 13

Albion. says...

markjoe wrote:
The main problem is Saltaire roundabout has been for sometime now and the Bingley by-pass hasn't done anything to resolve the problem. Its clear to see this when the weather turns snowy or icy and motorists stick to the main road, it simply comes to a stand-still. Bradford council is supposed to be in some sort of West Yorkshire transport scheme so why isn't money from this being used to start the proposed alterations to Saltaire roundabout then these so called raised-plateaux wouldn't be needed, the trees near Victoria Road wouldn't need cutting down either.
The tree's near Victoria Road were cut down early morning two Sundays ago, with a sizeable Police presence.
[quote][p][bold]markjoe[/bold] wrote: The main problem is Saltaire roundabout has been for sometime now and the Bingley by-pass hasn't done anything to resolve the problem. Its clear to see this when the weather turns snowy or icy and motorists stick to the main road, it simply comes to a stand-still. Bradford council is supposed to be in some sort of West Yorkshire transport scheme so why isn't money from this being used to start the proposed alterations to Saltaire roundabout then these so called raised-plateaux wouldn't be needed, the trees near Victoria Road wouldn't need cutting down either.[/p][/quote]The tree's near Victoria Road were cut down early morning two Sundays ago, with a sizeable Police presence. Albion.
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12:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

webshow says...

webess wrote:
Why don't Bradford Highways downsize itself to the extent it only repairs the existing road network?

Everyone's fed up of its crackpot, jerry built schemes which not only waste tax money but lead to more dangerous and congested roads..
too right, this should also apply to
traffic wardens, there's too many wandering the streets like vultures
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: Why don't Bradford Highways downsize itself to the extent it only repairs the existing road network? Everyone's fed up of its crackpot, jerry built schemes which not only waste tax money but lead to more dangerous and congested roads..[/p][/quote]too right, this should also apply to traffic wardens, there's too many wandering the streets like vultures webshow
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1:52pm Fri 11 Jan 13

The obvious says...

webshow wrote:
webess wrote:
Why don't Bradford Highways downsize itself to the extent it only repairs the existing road network?

Everyone's fed up of its crackpot, jerry built schemes which not only waste tax money but lead to more dangerous and congested roads..
too right, this should also apply to
traffic wardens, there's too many wandering the streets like vultures
Too right. Blooming minge munching plans that are usually a waste of time and going to cause havoc for six weekends as the road works continue!

The Chinese are attempting to build the tallest building in the world in three months. Yes three months from start to finish....us Brits with our effin health and safety tosh are going to take over six weeks to calm traffic on a road.

Things are fecked at city hall. Blooming circus
[quote][p][bold]webshow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: Why don't Bradford Highways downsize itself to the extent it only repairs the existing road network? Everyone's fed up of its crackpot, jerry built schemes which not only waste tax money but lead to more dangerous and congested roads..[/p][/quote]too right, this should also apply to traffic wardens, there's too many wandering the streets like vultures[/p][/quote]Too right. Blooming minge munching plans that are usually a waste of time and going to cause havoc for six weekends as the road works continue! The Chinese are attempting to build the tallest building in the world in three months. Yes three months from start to finish....us Brits with our effin health and safety tosh are going to take over six weeks to calm traffic on a road. Things are fecked at city hall. Blooming circus The obvious
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