Portable camera to catch Bradford bus lane cheats (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Portable camera to catch Bradford bus lane cheats
8:00am Saturday 5th January 2013 in News
By Hannah Postles, T&A Reporter
Vehicles using the Bolton Road bus lane where the portable camera will be used
A new portable camera which will be moved around the district to catch motorists who flout bus lane rules will go live in Bradford later this month.
The camera will initially be used on the outbound section of Bolton Road towards its junction with the A650 Shipley Airedale Road – where Bradford Council highways staff say they have received reports of vehicles ignoring the restrictions – but can be moved anywhere where there is a bus lane in force.
The Telegraph & Argus last month exclusively revealed the authority had received £2.3 million in paid fines over two and a half years since switching on cameras to catch motorists who misuse bus lanes and the Council said it had led to a 90 per cent drop in drivers breaking the rules.
Councillor Andrew Thornton, the Council’s executive member for environment, sport and sustainability, said: “Dedicated bus lanes increase the reliability of bus services and speed up journey times, which encourages the use of public transport. Those drivers who ignore bus lane restrictions risk delaying public transport as well as being a source of frustration and annoyance to law-abiding road users.
“Cameras are a cost-effective means of tackling those drivers who don’t comply with the rules.”
Figures released to the T&A under Freedom of Information rules showed that from April 2010 to December 2012 a total of 92,923 fines had been sent out to motorists, equating to 700 fines and £17,000 in income a week.
The penalty for ignoring bus lane restrictions is £60 – with a discount of up to £30 for prompt payment – which the Council said is used to cover the cost of enforcing the restrictions and making other improvements to the road network in the district.
Cameras at 11 key locations across the district continue to catch out drivers who flout the rules which allow buses, hackney cabs and cycles to use the lanes in a bid to cut traffic congestion.
Some bus lanes, such as those on the A650 Manningham Lane, operate only during rush hours, while others, such as those on Market Street in the city centre, operate permanently.
The Council said additional warning signs will be put at the first mobile site to make sure motorists are not taken unawares by the introduction of the camera.
Comments(38)
webess
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9:10am Sat 5 Jan 13
tinytoonster
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9:12am Sat 5 Jan 13
i understand having bus lanes in town centres but that road cannot have many buses going up it?
we want to get to and from work too you know.
car and fuel tax pays a lot of government bills not just road repair, give us a break!!
Z.Raja
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9:13am Sat 5 Jan 13
tinytoonster
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9:14am Sat 5 Jan 13
webess wrote:they have to so they can subsidies public transport.
Would be interested to know if it's indeed true that the council are raking in more cash than the bus companies?
tinytoonster
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9:15am Sat 5 Jan 13
Z.Raja wrote:wont happen, too soft.
Great innovation to revenue purpose need. Bradford council can visit illegal retail type bazaar and can use cameras to identify the stall holders who are claiming benefits or not allowed to work in UK. These peoples are destroying Bradford legal trade. Use the sense and cameras to tackle this Black Trade Business. Even the council will not have to wait till 26th April 2013 hearing date. Monitor their business with cameras and the problem will be over within days.
collos25
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9:35am Sat 5 Jan 13
JAtkinson
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9:51am Sat 5 Jan 13
Willard
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10:26am Sat 5 Jan 13
webess
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11:13am Sat 5 Jan 13
Meanwhile Bradford council try to pretend it's all about easing traffic congestion and think we're dumb enough to believe them.
Rambo
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11:13am Sat 5 Jan 13
So why is nothing EVER done about it? I wonder.
Albion.
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11:28am Sat 5 Jan 13
tinytoonster wrote:If you drive in an active bus lane, you are punishing yourself! The penalties should be more severe.
yet more car driver punishing.
i understand having bus lanes in town centres but that road cannot have many buses going up it?
we want to get to and from work too you know.
car and fuel tax pays a lot of government bills not just road repair, give us a break!!
yezboss
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11:52am Sat 5 Jan 13
Secondly if they use that sign 'Bus Lasne Cameras' then appeal to the Adjudicator, it is unlawful. There is no such sign and the Council have to display a sign and the correct one which says 'Traffic Cameras' (all those signs are unlawful in this and every other City) To see the correct sign go to the Traffic Signs and General Direction Regs 2003.
It is paramount correct signs are displayed wherever for enforcment to be lawful.
E.G. The Highways Agency have just had to refund a lot of fines and cancel others because they were using the wrong speed limit sign in 'Managed Speed Limits' on some motorways. They have now amended the Regs to include the design of that sign otherwise they would have had to undertake a very costly exercise in sign font changing in that regard.
Also there is a precedent for that 'Bus Lane Cameras' sign being illegal.
See:-
Oxford CC v The Bus Lane Adjudicator heard in Birmingham Judical Review Court March 2010. There is a similar case elsewhere too.
I don't condone breaking the law but two wrongs do not make a right.
johnhem
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12:15pm Sat 5 Jan 13
The obvious
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1:48pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Joedavid
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3:49pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Rambo wrote:Because it is in BD3.
On one of my rare returns to Bradford I happened to drive down Leeds Road last week and experienced without a doubt the worst driving standards on one road I have ever experienced. You would find less recklessness in a warzone. And I know its been like this for years.
So why is nothing EVER done about it? I wonder.
The Hoffster
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4:37pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Rambo wrote:Because it'll start a race war.
On one of my rare returns to Bradford I happened to drive down Leeds Road last week and experienced without a doubt the worst driving standards on one road I have ever experienced. You would find less recklessness in a warzone. And I know its been like this for years.
So why is nothing EVER done about it? I wonder.
I thought that was obvious ? {confuddled}
arshid
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9:15pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Z.Raja wrote:Your name is of a Desi your complaints about illegal bazaars not for the first time tells me your a Gora
Great innovation to revenue purpose need. Bradford council can visit illegal retail type bazaar and can use cameras to identify the stall holders who are claiming benefits or not allowed to work in UK. These peoples are destroying Bradford legal trade. Use the sense and cameras to tackle this Black Trade Business. Even the council will not have to wait till 26th April 2013 hearing date. Monitor their business with cameras and the problem will be over within days.
Shelfrhino
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9:42pm Sat 5 Jan 13
The obvious wrote:Nice to know you're thinking of me Lux.
Idiots at city hall. Must have the same sh!t for brains that shelfrhino has as a family tree.
wobbley-bob
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10:40pm Sat 5 Jan 13
arshid wrote:And something tells me you're a Kanjar.
Z.Raja wrote:Your name is of a Desi your complaints about illegal bazaars not for the first time tells me your a Gora
Great innovation to revenue purpose need. Bradford council can visit illegal retail type bazaar and can use cameras to identify the stall holders who are claiming benefits or not allowed to work in UK. These peoples are destroying Bradford legal trade. Use the sense and cameras to tackle this Black Trade Business. Even the council will not have to wait till 26th April 2013 hearing date. Monitor their business with cameras and the problem will be over within days.
loftyme
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10:34am Sun 6 Jan 13
Rambo wrote:I wouldnt even walk down there mate, never mind drive throught the shi£ole
On one of my rare returns to Bradford I happened to drive down Leeds Road last week and experienced without a doubt the worst driving standards on one road I have ever experienced. You would find less recklessness in a warzone. And I know its been like this for years.
So why is nothing EVER done about it? I wonder.
arshid
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3:08pm Sun 6 Jan 13
wobbley-bob wrote:No need for name calling i only wanted to know if u were a Gora because a lot of racism on the post. here towards us desi's
arshid wrote:And something tells me you're a Kanjar.
Z.Raja wrote:Your name is of a Desi your complaints about illegal bazaars not for the first time tells me your a Gora
Great innovation to revenue purpose need. Bradford council can visit illegal retail type bazaar and can use cameras to identify the stall holders who are claiming benefits or not allowed to work in UK. These peoples are destroying Bradford legal trade. Use the sense and cameras to tackle this Black Trade Business. Even the council will not have to wait till 26th April 2013 hearing date. Monitor their business with cameras and the problem will be over within days.
loftyme
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3:47pm Sun 6 Jan 13
"A minor derogatory/joking word used by Indian people to refer to white people. "
its the same as referring to people from Pakistan as P*ki's
Brannigan
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4:38pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Albion.
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5:08pm Sun 6 Jan 13
Brannigan wrote:Not when the bus lanes are active.
Whats the rush with the bus. Most of the passengers are either going to court or signing on.
scanipoos
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6:23pm Sun 6 Jan 13
SinnerSaint
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7:44pm Sun 6 Jan 13
arshid wrote:Is it a problem to complain about something illegal? Or is it only ok to complain about it if it's "gora" people involved?
Z.Raja wrote:Your name is of a Desi your complaints about illegal bazaars not for the first time tells me your a Gora
Great innovation to revenue purpose need. Bradford council can visit illegal retail type bazaar and can use cameras to identify the stall holders who are claiming benefits or not allowed to work in UK. These peoples are destroying Bradford legal trade. Use the sense and cameras to tackle this Black Trade Business. Even the council will not have to wait till 26th April 2013 hearing date. Monitor their business with cameras and the problem will be over within days.
collos25
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7:51pm Sun 6 Jan 13
scanipoos wrote:You are talking about Bradford the home of every type of law breaker in the country the police do nothing the council do nothing so it gets worse every year.But having a mobile camera which is illegal to use to fetch prosecutions will solve all the problems.
The driving in some parts of our city are APPALLING. how some folk have passed their test I Dont know. (i wouldnt be supprised if they had) but is this sort of driving is ignored THIS is the outcome. Why are the police totally ignoring bad driving...I can only Guess
SinnerSaint
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8:05pm Sun 6 Jan 13
scanipoos wrote:The same reason why when certain postcodes in Bradford constantly top the league tables for uninsured drivers, it's heavily publicised in the national papers causing huge embarrassment to the city YET not a single thing is done about it.
The driving in some parts of our city are APPALLING. how some folk have passed their test I Dont know. (i wouldnt be supprised if they had) but is this sort of driving is ignored THIS is the outcome. Why are the police totally ignoring bad driving...I can only Guess
SinnerSaint
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12:14pm Mon 7 Jan 13
The Hoffster wrote:Hoffster! First shooting of the year in Girlington last night. A whole 359 days left for the other one to happen. You know, seeing as there are only two a year like you said before.
Rambo wrote:Because it'll start a race war.
On one of my rare returns to Bradford I happened to drive down Leeds Road last week and experienced without a doubt the worst driving standards on one road I have ever experienced. You would find less recklessness in a warzone. And I know its been like this for years.
So why is nothing EVER done about it? I wonder.
I thought that was obvious ? {confuddled}
#delusionaltit
modman61
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12:53pm Mon 7 Jan 13
flogem
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7:38pm Mon 7 Jan 13
modman61 wrote:A very good point it encourages undertaking.
More to the point, what about all the drivers who DON'T use bus lanes when they are not in force. They are as bad as the drivers if not worse than those who do use the bus lanes when they are in force!
GlobalSingh
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12:27am Wed 9 Jan 13
Mutha.Slimer
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10:42am Wed 9 Jan 13
SinnerSaint
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12:27pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Mutha.Slimer wrote:"Some people" just don't think the law applies to them. The same ones who think that taxing and insuring cars doesn't apply to them either.
What about drivers who drive on pavements and constantly go through red lights?, I see this EVERY afternoon, traffic lights at top of canterbury avenue when Grange school is kicking out, I can queue for 10 minutes and see "other drivers" come up the inside on the pavement or down the outside and straight through the red lights, this is happening EVERY DAY.
Huddsboy
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3:32pm Wed 9 Jan 13
flogem
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7:20pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Huddsboy wrote:Bad luck about the fixed penalty.
I've just received a fixed penalty notice. My crime ? Bank Holiday at 4.00pm on Xmas Day i drove in the bus lane. No bus services running, the road was deserted apart from me. A genuine mistake on my part as due to the road conditions i genuinely thought it was a Sunday. I wasn't trying to cheat or blatantly ignore the restrictions but this doesn't seem to count in the eyes of the authorities. I'm not local but Welcome to Bradford ? - No thankyou.
Not sure why the road conditions should have any bearing on which day of the week it is.
Huddsboy
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7:26am Fri 11 Jan 13
flogem wrote:"Road Conditions" meaning they were deserted, no one around be it cars, buses and pedestrians lulling me in to thinking it was Sunday afternoon.
Huddsboy wrote: I've just received a fixed penalty notice. My crime ? Bank Holiday at 4.00pm on Xmas Day i drove in the bus lane. No bus services running, the road was deserted apart from me. A genuine mistake on my part as due to the road conditions i genuinely thought it was a Sunday. I wasn't trying to cheat or blatantly ignore the restrictions but this doesn't seem to count in the eyes of the authorities. I'm not local but Welcome to Bradford ? - No thankyou.Bad luck about the fixed penalty. Not sure why the road conditions should have any bearing on which day of the week it is.
Joedavid says...
8:19am Sat 5 Jan 13