Anger at growing problem of cemetery fly-tipping (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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New group formed to protect Scholemoor Cemetery
7:00am Wednesday 2nd January 2013 in News
Waste dumped at Scholemoor Cemetery
Growing anger over “inexcusable” fly- tipping and general waste being dumped at a Bradford cemetery has led to a group being set up to try to combat the problem.
The Friends of Scholemoor Cemetery organisation has already had one meeting and will get together again in the coming weeks to try to tackle the problem.
Bereaved families have been faced with dumped materials on pathways – including car parts, mattresses and household materials used for home improvements – when they go to visit their loved ones.
The problem at the grounds in Necropolis Road is understood to have got worse after the registrar offices were closed in July. Some of the cemetery gates also remain open all night to allow people to visit their relatives at all hours.
Ghulam Rasul, the registrar at Bradford’s Council for Mosques, said it was happening on a regular basis.
He said that debris from gravediggers carrying out their work could not always be removed quickly because the cemetery bins were full of fly-tipped material, leaving families distraught.
“They are shocked and they shout at us,” he said.
“We can’t always move the mud straightaway because the baskets and bins are too full of rubbish. It makes our bins heavy and that is a big problem.
“The Council are doing their best but they can’t be there 24 hours a day. We used to lock the gates but then people wanted to visit really late so we decided we would keep it unlocked.
“All sorts of stuff is left, including tree branches, rubbish from home improvements, and all sorts of rubbish.
“It is not the majority, only a few people doing it.
“When we are digging graves they think we are getting rid of stuff, so they think we can get rid of theirs as well.
“But we have to pay to remove it. We have this problem in the Muslim section, but it is happening all over the cemetery.
“It is people who cannot afford to dump their rubbish and they take it to the cemetery instead. Why can’t they take it to the recycling centre?
“It is something that I cannot understand. The only thing we can do is educate people and we have this group with volunteers meeting to address it.”
Councillor Andrew Thornton, the executive member on Bradford Council with responsibility for cemeteries, said those caught fly-tipping would be dealt with through the courts.
“To dump things in this fashion is inexcusable,” he said. “I wasn’t aware that it was reaching this kind of level but knew we had issues with fly-tipping around the district. “Anyone with information can call the Council on (01274) 431000.”
Comments(45)
collos25
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7:54am Wed 2 Jan 13
Dinkydebz
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8:32am Wed 2 Jan 13
He does not seem to know the meaning of the word respect.
Joedavid
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9:13am Wed 2 Jan 13
Dinkydebz wrote:What was result of you reporting them?
I reported my neighbour for throwing his household rubbish over the cemetery wall. I saw him do it from my kitchen window.I was outraged!
He does not seem to know the meaning of the word respect.
Dinkydebz
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9:20am Wed 2 Jan 13
mad matt
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9:31am Wed 2 Jan 13
Dinkydebz
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9:35am Wed 2 Jan 13
Scum that dump rubbish in the cemetery should be dealt with or they will think they can continue to do it!
Mr_Army
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9:47am Wed 2 Jan 13
citizen smith
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9:51am Wed 2 Jan 13
In fact it is the lack of respect at all levels that is the root of the majority of problems in Bradford. Whether it is arrogant and illegal driving, parking on restricted areas outside schools, metal thefts, gravestone and stone thefts, blatant day-light drug-dealing..... a total lack of respect by many individuals is destroying the society and fabric of this city.
Dinkydebz
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9:53am Wed 2 Jan 13
citizen smith wrote:I totally agree
That is the key word in the problem here... RESPECT.
In fact it is the lack of respect at all levels that is the root of the majority of problems in Bradford. Whether it is arrogant and illegal driving, parking on restricted areas outside schools, metal thefts, gravestone and stone thefts, blatant day-light drug-dealing..... a total lack of respect by many individuals is destroying the society and fabric of this city.
Albion.
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11:05am Wed 2 Jan 13
idleone wrote:All that will do is give you some pictures (usually of dubious quality), there are already thousands of such pictures but very few prosecutions.
Very simple solution, Bradford council install CCTV at each entrance, link it to the camera room at Britannia house and that will sort it. Cheap and effective.
BigFigure
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11:53am Wed 2 Jan 13
mad matt wrote:When I reported seeing fly tippers in Queensbury they were on the scene within minutes and apprehended the culprits in the act...and they (the Council) rang back later that afternoon to thank me.....
This is typical of the response you get whenever you try to report things to the council - ZERO !
The obvious
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12:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Julie D
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12:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13
The Hoffster
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1:37pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Willard
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1:53pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Dinkydebz wrote:Add my agreement as well. Not even self respect is evident anymore with the way kids cover themselves in ink or metalwork and the way they talk to each other. It's hardly any surprise that we no longer have any values. The whole county is in a mess with its 'not my fault' and 'blame someone else' together with ' claim for some compo'....what a waste.
citizen smith wrote:I totally agree
That is the key word in the problem here... RESPECT.
In fact it is the lack of respect at all levels that is the root of the majority of problems in Bradford. Whether it is arrogant and illegal driving, parking on restricted areas outside schools, metal thefts, gravestone and stone thefts, blatant day-light drug-dealing..... a total lack of respect by many individuals is destroying the society and fabric of this city.
loftyme
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2:44pm Wed 2 Jan 13
The Hoffster wrote:Hoff, you really are a dic$head, why would it it be Europeans, BNP/EDL chav animals, or pikeys that are leaving household waste in the cemetary, its more likely to be the lazy tw$ts that live locally who cant be arsed going to the nearest council tip in their Subaru, init bro!.
Either eastern Europeans, BNP/EDL chav animals, or pikeys involved.
loftyme
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2:57pm Wed 2 Jan 13
The Hoffster
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2:57pm Wed 2 Jan 13
loftyme wrote:You seem to think very highly of the groups I mentioned.
The Hoffster wrote:Hoff, you really are a dic$head, why would it it be Europeans, BNP/EDL chav animals, or pikeys that are leaving household waste in the cemetary, its more likely to be the lazy tw$ts that live locally who cant be arsed going to the nearest council tip in their Subaru, init bro!.
Either eastern Europeans, BNP/EDL chav animals, or pikeys involved.
Are you one of them ?
ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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2:59pm Wed 2 Jan 13
loftyme
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3:10pm Wed 2 Jan 13
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Got that right, above post.
Shut the gates at five o clock, people can always walk through the side entrance. Why is it the council for mosques always seem to over'ride the practices that have worked so well in the past, i'm sure if we give it three months it will be every Muslims right to bury there rubbish there.
by the way Hoff, no where in my post have I spoken highly of the groups you mention in nearly every story you comment on, you seem obsessed with these people!.
arshid
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3:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13
BigFigure
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3:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13
loftyme wrote:Is that where you go dogging,mate?
I see rubbish that is tipped in Heaton woods every week, the most recent 2 days ago is a long low red settee, the type only used by one kind of culture here in bradford, says it all really.
loftyme
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3:53pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian
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4:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian
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4:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian
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4:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian
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4:04pm Wed 2 Jan 13
damraf
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5:16pm Wed 2 Jan 13
idleone wrote:the camera see a vehicle going in but does not prove that the items came from that vehicle. It will deter them but not stop them
Very simple solution, Bradford council install CCTV at each entrance, link it to the camera room at Britannia house and that will sort it. Cheap and effective.
arshid
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5:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian wrote:my mum is also buried there no longer live in Bradford moved out to the States long time ago but have visited every year since 2006 even if she wasn't buried there. still would be upset shame on all the culprits catch them lock them up post their pictures in the paper
My mother, step, father and my brother are interred in this cemetary.I have not visited recently due to illness, It would be very distressing to see dumped rubbish around the cemetery. How does one contact the recent group which has recently be set up? I totally agree with arshid they should be caught and taken to court and their photographs published in the newspapers.
arshid
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5:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian wrote:my mum is also buried there no longer live in Bradford moved out to the States long time ago but have visited every year since 2006 even if she wasn't buried there. still would be upset shame on all the culprits catch them lock them up post their pictures in the paper
My mother, step, father and my brother are interred in this cemetary.I have not visited recently due to illness, It would be very distressing to see dumped rubbish around the cemetery. How does one contact the recent group which has recently be set up? I totally agree with arshid they should be caught and taken to court and their photographs published in the newspapers.
arshid
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5:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13
bradfordian wrote:my mum is also buried there no longer live in Bradford moved out to the States long time ago but have visited every year since 2006 even if she wasn't buried there. still would be upset shame on all the culprits catch them lock them up post their pictures in the paper
My mother, step, father and my brother are interred in this cemetary.I have not visited recently due to illness, It would be very distressing to see dumped rubbish around the cemetery. How does one contact the recent group which has recently be set up? I totally agree with arshid they should be caught and taken to court and their photographs published in the newspapers.
arshid
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5:29pm Wed 2 Jan 13
arshid wrote:oops soory
bradfordian wrote:my mum is also buried there no longer live in Bradford moved out to the States long time ago but have visited every year since 2006 even if she wasn't buried there. still would be upset shame on all the culprits catch them lock them up post their pictures in the paper
My mother, step, father and my brother are interred in this cemetary.I have not visited recently due to illness, It would be very distressing to see dumped rubbish around the cemetery. How does one contact the recent group which has recently be set up? I totally agree with arshid they should be caught and taken to court and their photographs published in the newspapers.
lanzaman
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7:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13
TirNaNog
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8:03pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Albion.
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8:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13
TirNaNog wrote:There was no mention of racial or social categories until the post timed at 1.37.
So then, the consensus is it is the asians fault? That's a new one for this site. No,really! Even one goon can identify this from a style of sofa! Incredible! The previous owner may have paid someone to remove it in good faith but this tool knows better. He/she/it should consider a career with CSI. Shame shyte,different year! Another year closer to the grave.Tick,tock!
The obvious
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1:34am Thu 3 Jan 13
loftyme
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8:09am Thu 3 Jan 13
TirNaNog wrote:****£r, tirnignog, everyone knows what a Asian settee looks like you ****£r, we all know its locals that live near Scholemoor who dump their rubbish there, why would someone drive miles to leave it, you retard!
So then, the consensus is it is the asians fault? That's a new one for this site. No,really! Even one goon can identify this from a style of sofa! Incredible! The previous owner may have paid someone to remove it in good faith but this tool knows better. He/she/it should consider a career with CSI. Shame shyte,different year! Another year closer to the grave.Tick,tock!
wobbley-bob
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10:14am Thu 3 Jan 13
loftyme wrote:If you dare to drive around 'the maze', between Leeds Rd & Barkerend Rd, you'll see what kind of people dump their crap in the street, in the alleyways, or just pile it in their garden to rot.
TirNaNog wrote:****£r, tirnignog, everyone knows what a Asian settee looks like you ****£r, we all know its locals that live near Scholemoor who dump their rubbish there, why would someone drive miles to leave it, you retard!
So then, the consensus is it is the asians fault? That's a new one for this site. No,really! Even one goon can identify this from a style of sofa! Incredible! The previous owner may have paid someone to remove it in good faith but this tool knows better. He/she/it should consider a career with CSI. Shame shyte,different year! Another year closer to the grave.Tick,tock!
Not really the cleanest of people are they?
loftyme
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3:50pm Thu 3 Jan 13
wobbley-bob wrote:got that right mate, but people will still slag you off, or call you racist when all we do is state facts that everyone knows is true, you dont see shi£eoles like that in other "nice" areas of outer Bradford.
loftyme wrote:If you dare to drive around 'the maze', between Leeds Rd & Barkerend Rd, you'll see what kind of people dump their crap in the street, in the alleyways, or just pile it in their garden to rot.
TirNaNog wrote:****£r, tirnignog, everyone knows what a Asian settee looks like you ****£r, we all know its locals that live near Scholemoor who dump their rubbish there, why would someone drive miles to leave it, you retard!
So then, the consensus is it is the asians fault? That's a new one for this site. No,really! Even one goon can identify this from a style of sofa! Incredible! The previous owner may have paid someone to remove it in good faith but this tool knows better. He/she/it should consider a career with CSI. Shame shyte,different year! Another year closer to the grave.Tick,tock!
Not really the cleanest of people are they?
The obvious
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9:03pm Thu 3 Jan 13
loftyme wrote:Take your Bradford tints off moobs. The outer districts of Bradford which are flowing with whites are also suffering from fly tipping. Take a walk up baildon, the moors or head off to the streams near Leeds Bradford airport and you'll see tipped stuff everywhere! Wake up you pathetic racists. Shame to call these racists English as you are nothing but fascists who should be dumped into the channel.
wobbley-bob wrote:got that right mate, but people will still slag you off, or call you racist when all we do is state facts that everyone knows is true, you dont see shi£eoles like that in other "nice" areas of outer Bradford.
loftyme wrote:If you dare to drive around 'the maze', between Leeds Rd & Barkerend Rd, you'll see what kind of people dump their crap in the street, in the alleyways, or just pile it in their garden to rot.
TirNaNog wrote:****£r, tirnignog, everyone knows what a Asian settee looks like you ****£r, we all know its locals that live near Scholemoor who dump their rubbish there, why would someone drive miles to leave it, you retard!
So then, the consensus is it is the asians fault? That's a new one for this site. No,really! Even one goon can identify this from a style of sofa! Incredible! The previous owner may have paid someone to remove it in good faith but this tool knows better. He/she/it should consider a career with CSI. Shame shyte,different year! Another year closer to the grave.Tick,tock!
Not really the cleanest of people are they?
lazybeat
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10:16pm Thu 3 Jan 13
lazybeat
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10:17pm Thu 3 Jan 13
The obvious
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11:17pm Thu 3 Jan 13
lazybeat wrote:News flash
I thought scholemoor did have cctv. either way I hope every animal in the district pi*ses on their graves of these tippers when they drop dead.
CCTV seems only effective to prosecute motorists!
The authorities know the dodgy scum don't give a monkeys about fines and don't even bother turning up to court. Most agree to pay around the minimum of £7 per week if they get a fine.
The motorist and average citizen who is law abiding are cash cows and easy to prosecute, whilst the scumbags don't give a hoot and getaway with various acts of poor behaviour.
The authorities and the Police are not fit for purpose
Northern1
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12:06pm Sat 19 Jan 13
idleone says...
7:15am Wed 2 Jan 13