New map highlights energy bill hardship (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

They wouldn't be in fuel poverty if their household income was higher.

Shelfrhino wrote:
They wouldn't be in fuel poverty if their household income was higher.

This is what it's all about - obviously!

them ps3 and xboxes use a lot of electric!
go out to work and you will save energy!
our bills are lower, we both work!!
on a serious note, give the energy watchdogs more power to cut prices.

mad matt wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:
They wouldn't be in fuel poverty if their household income was higher.

This is what it's all about - obviously!

What an absolute ignorant ignorant idiot you are (part of the "I,m all right jack" brigade) you don't know anything about personal circumstance. There are people that work who can,t afford their fuel bills.

The energy watchdogs don't have teeth and the government couldn't care less or are scared to take on the energy giants.
The ordinary 'man in the street' can't fight this alone, so what is the answer?

undercliffebantam wrote:

mad matt wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:
They wouldn't be in fuel poverty if their household income was higher.

This is what it's all about - obviously!

What an absolute ignorant ignorant idiot you are (part of the "I,m all right jack" brigade) you don't know anything about personal circumstance. There are people that work who can,t afford their fuel bills.

Then people should either get a second job and or:

Ditch the mobile phones, satalite tv and internet subscriptions
Turn off the computer/laptops, ipad, ipods
Limit computer game playing time
Turn off the lights operating in every room of the house
Turn down the central heating
Start wearing winter clothing eg socks and long sleeve jumbers
Start cooking instead of buying ready made meals and take aways and buy supermarket everyday brands rather than branded food etc etc
.
And no - before you say it, I don't have it all but I do have a good sense of what I can and can't afford!! I also don't expect to have everything provided and available to me despite my circumstances.

I think these figures are very misleading. BD6 which includes Buttershaw is hardly not one of the areas who do not suffer fuel poverty. As for Manningham and Girlington only 6%, well surely this is misleading. We are always told that these are poor areas of the City and always being supplied with lots of funding from various "pots" so yet another example whereby the figures cannot be accurate?

My daughter is in high fuel poverty in a damp flat with a baby. Incommunities tell her to keep a window slightly open and the heating on 20 to stop the damage caused but she can't afford to. £40 a week goes on gas and electric already. The map says her area is not in poverty at all, but as the data is collected via the internet, it may well be that the really poor areas are not being reflected!

Invest in an electric heater. It's amazing how quickly the area warms up (and you can switch it off as soon that happens).

And we need to know *why* certain people are spending so much on fuel.

What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...

Depends what you call income.
A pensioner, state pension, big home, will onviously spend more if they heat the whole house.
Benefit claimants might not class the council tax benefit and housing allowance as income.
Energy companies only make about £50 per customer profit pa, so it's the basic commodity price driving this, plus the major new charges for 'green' subsidies.
The UK basically doesn't have a longterm energy policy.
Where are the Scottish and Welsh hydro schemes, Severn barrier, new nukes etc etc...instead we just have gas and wind turbines.

well my circunstance is one small oil free standing unit in one room turned on sparingly,a kettle and small fridge and it still runs to at least £15 in electric weekly.

No other options no gas.
Coal fire (unrestricted area)and that cannot be afforded daily with the price of a bag of coal compared to 5 years back.The coal is coming from columbia,poland and all round the world the coalman tells me.

yes it is a dreadfull problem.
4 years ago NPower put up prices without even telling their customers 25 per cent (end of august)and they always talk of the wholesale price to justify.

When the wholesale price falls the energy companies never reduce prices.

Another 10 per cent rise now.

And food going through the roof.
And fuel,car insurance,up up up.

People at the low end of income cannot absorb these increases without starving.
It"s eat or stay warm for many these days.
£70 pw (JSA standard rate)does not cover much these days.

And still we bring millions into the country when there is a 3 million dole qeue with thousands expected from Bulgaria and Rumania this year.

How can they expect to find anuthing other than a benefit system far better than in their own country.

There are no jobs here in Bradford or pretty much elsewhere in the north for those with little or no skills that do not even speaker da lingo.

Why is UKIP not making more ground.

Why are we still tying ourselves to the EEC.

The poor and needy are being attacked by this government.

Benefit savings would be far easier acheived by closing our borders to those arriving for a bit of the gravy train

Good old Maggie left a great legacy of "free market forces" that will drive down consumer costs she preached, Electric/Gas about 6 big providers working as a cartel (fixing prices) just the same as oil companies,water companies,train companies, please feel free to add to the list..!! but then again people earning over £1million a year will be O/K with their top rate of tax reducing to 45% from 50% don't you just love the "WERE ALL IN IT TOGETHER" comment Eton College educated David Cameron said, maybe some are in it more than others Mr Cameron??, some of the comments on here come straight out of "A Christmas Carol" are there not work houses,debtors prisons, this is Britain in the 21st century not Victorian Britain, unbelievable comments from some above..!!

2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

The Hoffster wrote:
Invest in an electric heater. It's amazing how quickly the area warms up (and you can switch it off as soon that happens).

And we need to know *why* certain people are spending so much on fuel.

What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...

The old and the sick also need heating especially at this time of year and they live in all areas of Bradford not just specified areas. Also babies and small children do not deserve to be left in the cold.

Yorkshire Lass wrote:

The Hoffster wrote:
Invest in an electric heater. It's amazing how quickly the area warms up (and you can switch it off as soon that happens).

And we need to know *why* certain people are spending so much on fuel.

What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...

The old and the sick also need heating especially at this time of year and they live in all areas of Bradford not just specified areas. Also babies and small children do not deserve to be left in the cold.

If you cannot afford to provide a warm and comfortable environment for your children without help, then you shouldn't be having them.
To many scroungers having kids they can't afford and expecting the likes of me and others to pay to feed them, house them and put clothes on their backs and put credit on their mobiles, pay for Sky tv, pay their council tax and housing benefit.

Well I'm sorry, but people like me and all the other hard working tax payers are sick of paying for the rabble to breed and produce another generation of leeches. A good hard freezing winter will maybe help thin the ranks out a bit and save us all a few quid.

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I love the guy who says these people should go out and get a job.

First of all some of these people already have a job.
Second, you do know which district we are in right? Jobs are very sparse, and thanks to the government companies are taking advantage of apprenticeship scheme, they get an apprentice, get them to do all the work then tell them there is no position available at the time or they arent what they are looking for, then get another person a week later as an apprentice.

But I guess their main point is that many of the unemployed are ethnics. Well in this recession and the racist view of many people they arent getting the job, the employers would rather employ "whites"; we all know this is the case, descrimination by race has been around for decades, it's just a lot higher now but the employers use other excuses not to hire them.

But to all those who say these people should go out and get a job, why dont you offer them one.

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Shelfrhino wrote:

Yorkshire Lass wrote:

The Hoffster wrote:
Invest in an electric heater. It's amazing how quickly the area warms up (and you can switch it off as soon that happens).

And we need to know *why* certain people are spending so much on fuel.

What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...

The old and the sick also need heating especially at this time of year and they live in all areas of Bradford not just specified areas. Also babies and small children do not deserve to be left in the cold.

If you cannot afford to provide a warm and comfortable environment for your children without help, then you shouldn't be having them.
To many scroungers having kids they can't afford and expecting the likes of me and others to pay to feed them, house them and put clothes on their backs and put credit on their mobiles, pay for Sky tv, pay their council tax and housing benefit.

Well I'm sorry, but people like me and all the other hard working tax payers are sick of paying for the rabble to breed and produce another generation of leeches. A good hard freezing winter will maybe help thin the ranks out a bit and save us all a few quid.

Well said.

justjustice wrote:
I love the guy who says these people should go out and get a job.

First of all some of these people already have a job.
Second, you do know which district we are in right? Jobs are very sparse, and thanks to the government companies are taking advantage of apprenticeship scheme, they get an apprentice, get them to do all the work then tell them there is no position available at the time or they arent what they are looking for, then get another person a week later as an apprentice.

But I guess their main point is that many of the unemployed are ethnics. Well in this recession and the racist view of many people they arent getting the job, the employers would rather employ "whites"; we all know this is the case, descrimination by race has been around for decades, it's just a lot higher now but the employers use other excuses not to hire them.

But to all those who say these people should go out and get a job, why dont you offer them one.

Unfortunately very true. We know the racism of many employers out there, and they do all they can to 'mask' it under various guises.

Sick animals.

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Sorry, still not getting it.
Never mind eh, I'm sure there will be a free "English as a second language course" near you somewhere.

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Sorry, still not getting it.
Never mind eh, I'm sure there will be a free "English as a second language course" near you somewhere.

Uou need it more than me mate also maybe some hearing aids too.....!

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Sorry, still not getting it.
Never mind eh, I'm sure there will be a free "English as a second language course" near you somewhere.

Maybe a pair of glasses too lol....

justjustice wrote:
I love the guy who says these people should go out and get a job.

First of all some of these people already have a job.
Second, you do know which district we are in right? Jobs are very sparse, and thanks to the government companies are taking advantage of apprenticeship scheme, they get an apprentice, get them to do all the work then tell them there is no position available at the time or they arent what they are looking for, then get another person a week later as an apprentice.

But I guess their main point is that many of the unemployed are ethnics. Well in this recession and the racist view of many people they arent getting the job, the employers would rather employ "whites"; we all know this is the case, descrimination by race has been around for decades, it's just a lot higher now but the employers use other excuses not to hire them.

But to all those who say these people should go out and get a job, why dont you offer them one.

Are u for real idiot? You will find its British whites born here who don't get the jobs. No wonder this country is ruined with people like you living here.

Pargie wrote:
My daughter is in high fuel poverty in a damp flat with a baby. Incommunities tell her to keep a window slightly open and the heating on 20 to stop the damage caused but she can't afford to. £40 a week goes on gas and electric already. The map says her area is not in poverty at all, but as the data is collected via the internet, it may well be that the really poor areas are not being reflected!

That is ridiculous. I know someone ;) a family of 4 who are in a 5 bed house with all the various other rooms, 2000sq ft floorspace, who is paying less than that and they can prove it. Instead of blaming others your daughter needs to learn how to manage her money as is usually the case when these situations arise. Maybe her address isn't on the map because everyone else in the area manages things properly, she should get some tips from her neighbours.

Birky_Neil wrote:

justjustice wrote:
I love the guy who says these people should go out and get a job.

First of all some of these people already have a job.
Second, you do know which district we are in right? Jobs are very sparse, and thanks to the government companies are taking advantage of apprenticeship scheme, they get an apprentice, get them to do all the work then tell them there is no position available at the time or they arent what they are looking for, then get another person a week later as an apprentice.

But I guess their main point is that many of the unemployed are ethnics. Well in this recession and the racist view of many people they arent getting the job, the employers would rather employ "whites"; we all know this is the case, descrimination by race has been around for decades, it's just a lot higher now but the employers use other excuses not to hire them.

But to all those who say these people should go out and get a job, why dont you offer them one.

Are u for real idiot? You will find its British whites born here who don't get the jobs. No wonder this country is ruined with people like you living here.

So true.......

Birky_Neil wrote:

justjustice wrote:
I love the guy who says these people should go out and get a job.

First of all some of these people already have a job.
Second, you do know which district we are in right? Jobs are very sparse, and thanks to the government companies are taking advantage of apprenticeship scheme, they get an apprentice, get them to do all the work then tell them there is no position available at the time or they arent what they are looking for, then get another person a week later as an apprentice.

But I guess their main point is that many of the unemployed are ethnics. Well in this recession and the racist view of many people they arent getting the job, the employers would rather employ "whites"; we all know this is the case, descrimination by race has been around for decades, it's just a lot higher now but the employers use other excuses not to hire them.

But to all those who say these people should go out and get a job, why dont you offer them one.

Are u for real idiot? You will find its British whites born here who don't get the jobs. No wonder this country is ruined with people like you living here.

*yawn* - another BNP/EDL supporter who likes to blame others for this pathetic life.

The Hoffster wrote:
Invest in an electric heater. It's amazing how quickly the area warms up (and you can switch it off as soon that happens).

And we need to know *why* certain people are spending so much on fuel.

What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...

What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...


Maybe some have a life like yours where they get up when they feel like it and don't bother getting a job and are on the pc 24/7??

How can one admit they don't work one month then attack others the next about their lifestyles?

Shelfrhino wrote:

Yorkshire Lass wrote:

The Hoffster wrote: Invest in an electric heater. It's amazing how quickly the area warms up (and you can switch it off as soon that happens). And we need to know *why* certain people are spending so much on fuel. What kind of lifestyle do they have, we wonder?...

The old and the sick also need heating especially at this time of year and they live in all areas of Bradford not just specified areas. Also babies and small children do not deserve to be left in the cold.

If you cannot afford to provide a warm and comfortable environment for your children without help, then you shouldn't be having them. To many scroungers having kids they can't afford and expecting the likes of me and others to pay to feed them, house them and put clothes on their backs and put credit on their mobiles, pay for Sky tv, pay their council tax and housing benefit. Well I'm sorry, but people like me and all the other hard working tax payers are sick of paying for the rabble to breed and produce another generation of leeches. A good hard freezing winter will maybe help thin the ranks out a bit and save us all a few quid.

What about those who had their children responsibly, while they were employed, those who lost their job through no fault of their own, some of whom have then lost their homes because they couldn't keep up their mortgage payments, should their kids be "thinned out". What about the many sick and disabled people who have been put throught he ringer by this government, had their money stopped by ATOS, will have to wait months for an appeal on next to nothing, or those who had employment with 'Remploy', but now have little or no prospect of finding a job at all, they are deemed 'fit for work' so they have to jump through hoops on a pittance! I suppose you think they should just go away quietly and die! You and Cameron both. You sicken me. Why not just set up death camps for them and have done with it ?

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

Moron.

Silsdenman wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

Moron.

Excuse me????

Welcome to third world Britain. In another fifty years nobody would ever believe we had an empire so vast that the sun never could have darkness over it. Within the last fifty years this great nation has entered the darkest part of he abyss. Let their be light please.

i have no problem with the elderly being helped as they really do need it. although i do believe that children should not forget that it is a duty to look after those who have brought them up, sometimes not eating themselves to feed feed the kids. i think its disgusting when at children just want to complain about the lack of help that the elderly get but just do the bear minimum for your own parents. some people just need to take a good hard look at themselves!!!
thats one good thing about asian communities, they really do look after the seniors, they take responsability!
then we have the scroungers!!! just stop helping them, i have a family opposite me, mum dad and 2 children, all i see them do is wake up early have a fag, while either me or the mrs are going to work and every now and then just go for a walk. thats just not on!!! i work 2 jobs, the wife works, we have a young child yet these scrags of society are living right opposite me in a house just like mine all by doing nothing.
HOW CAN THIS BE RIGHT!!!!!!

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Sorry, still not getting it.
Never mind eh, I'm sure there will be a free "English as a second language course" near you somewhere.

Maybe a pair of glasses too lol....

LMAO, you have got to love these arrogant "indigenous English" retards; sammy you may have gone to school but it certainly seems you did not learn much, your grammar is dreadful! You have heard on sentences right? Cos you certainly do not seem to know what punctuation is!

That's the best thing about these arrogant racist people like sammy, they claim to be "English", that those who come to England must speak proper English, yet they think the offal that comes out of their mouths is proper English; it isn't, it's and offence to the English language! In fact I have seen foreigners with strong accents speak better English that these illiterate chavs!
In fact the only time you used almost proper grammar was your last post of "Excuse me????"; we can forgive you for using multiple question marks, we can understand how you can become so easily confused from a single word.

Now instead of blaming others, why not blame the government for setting up such a system where those on benefits can live better lives that those who work.
For allowing the education system to fall to such extents that English people cannot even write a sentence in English!
Or companies for employing people who agree to work for less and longer hours than you are willing to work.
Or finally come to terms that Great Britain simply is not great any more. It is no longer the British Empire, it is just Britain; the rest of the world would just carry on if Britain were to just vanish into thin air.

The solution is improved energy efficiency measures with economy 7 electric running at least one large storage heater on full with the vent closed each night. This will cost 40 to 50 pounds per month and will provide round the clock heat throughout a flat or small one or two bed house. I know because I lived in a one bed flat and I ran only one large storage heater in a well insulated property and the whole flat would heat up brilliantly. You must close the vent on the heater in order to store enough heat through the night using eco 7 heating which is cheap. Open the vent during the day to allow heat to escape or keep it half open. At the moment I am living in a one bed flat owned by Manningham Housing and it is absolutely ridiculously expensive to heat up because it is not insulated, has old style radiators, is damp, moldy and I do not know how staff at manningham housing sleep at night knowing they are ripping their tenants off with sub standard properties. Some of you lot who have nothing nice to say need to shut the you know what up because if you said what you are saying in front of me, I'd probably find it hard to stop myself from swiping a back hand you disgusting lowlifes. I cannot believe how racist people are and so extremely insensitive towards each others' circumstances. There are no efffing jobs. Even for educated and experienced people like me. People become trapped into the benefit system threw no fault of their own and after a year or longer on benefits, you do become morally degraded and it shows and that further prevents gaining employment. You thick Bs. Stupid, nearly all of you. Pathetic comments above. This is Bradford. I've turned my back on Bradford after almost twenty years living here and wherever I go, I meet racist cold hearted, disgusting people in every walk of life, whether it's Housing Advisors who know little to nothing about housing issues, racism and negative discrimination from the job centre, employers, the police, colleges, the job ******* lot. I am ashamed of this place, I'm ashamed of Bradfordians, I'm sick of the God Damned mess, corruption at all levels, people pointing fingers. I am a law abiding citizen who goes out of his way and risks his life for his local community, I studied hard, got qualification but they are useless in a place run by gangster and quiet frankly evil characters who got their jobs not through qualifications but because of who they know regardless of how ignorant and stupid they really are. Hang your heads in shame. All of you. You make me sick. Everytime you come on here, this is all you hear. Nothing but BS. Pure Bradfordian BS. This is my experience of this place and it needs renaming as BadFord. Because it has been a very bad experience for me. I cannot wait to get the hell out of here, I truly cannot. I am at a stage where I will do anyhing, ANYTHING, to get enough money to escape this place. It has been hell. **** you Bradford and all bad Bradfordians. Be damned you besterds. Be Truly Damned. UY.

Oh dear, I forgot, I'm speaking to a brick wall again. Deaf ears and insensitive cold besterds.

justjustice wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Sorry, still not getting it.
Never mind eh, I'm sure there will be a free "English as a second language course" near you somewhere.

Maybe a pair of glasses too lol....

LMAO, you have got to love these arrogant "indigenous English" retards; sammy you may have gone to school but it certainly seems you did not learn much, your grammar is dreadful! You have heard on sentences right? Cos you certainly do not seem to know what punctuation is!

That's the best thing about these arrogant racist people like sammy, they claim to be "English", that those who come to England must speak proper English, yet they think the offal that comes out of their mouths is proper English; it isn't, it's and offence to the English language! In fact I have seen foreigners with strong accents speak better English that these illiterate chavs!
In fact the only time you used almost proper grammar was your last post of "Excuse me????"; we can forgive you for using multiple question marks, we can understand how you can become so easily confused from a single word.

Now instead of blaming others, why not blame the government for setting up such a system where those on benefits can live better lives that those who work.
For allowing the education system to fall to such extents that English people cannot even write a sentence in English!
Or companies for employing people who agree to work for less and longer hours than you are willing to work.
Or finally come to terms that Great Britain simply is not great any more. It is no longer the British Empire, it is just Britain; the rest of the world would just carry on if Britain were to just vanish into thin air.

Justjustice,where is your justice?All i want to say is that basicaly you are picking on a person who thought who's voice would be heard.Not my fault people like you seem to know alot more than we do.First of all i am a british citizen,i dont care how i type on here,second we are all entitled to comment on here and third shut your mouth!.I never tol anyone to comment so if something is itching up your backsides then go wash yourself as i cant be asked arguing with silly retarded people like you.Welcome to bradford.......Peace out!!!!

justjustice wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

I'm sorry, I only speak English and some Spanish, I haven't a clue what you are trying to communicate to me, but thanks for trying, I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to you.

Lol u see the problem with people like you is you DONT understand decent english so people like us have to fill you in.....well i guess u dont know what im still on about but anyways i do think you do need a dictionary from another planet to help you with your so called language from a different planet. :)

Sorry, still not getting it.
Never mind eh, I'm sure there will be a free "English as a second language course" near you somewhere.

Maybe a pair of glasses too lol....

LMAO, you have got to love these arrogant "indigenous English" retards; sammy you may have gone to school but it certainly seems you did not learn much, your grammar is dreadful! You have heard on sentences right? Cos you certainly do not seem to know what punctuation is!

That's the best thing about these arrogant racist people like sammy, they claim to be "English", that those who come to England must speak proper English, yet they think the offal that comes out of their mouths is proper English; it isn't, it's and offence to the English language! In fact I have seen foreigners with strong accents speak better English that these illiterate chavs!
In fact the only time you used almost proper grammar was your last post of "Excuse me????"; we can forgive you for using multiple question marks, we can understand how you can become so easily confused from a single word.

Now instead of blaming others, why not blame the government for setting up such a system where those on benefits can live better lives that those who work.
For allowing the education system to fall to such extents that English people cannot even write a sentence in English!
Or companies for employing people who agree to work for less and longer hours than you are willing to work.
Or finally come to terms that Great Britain simply is not great any more. It is no longer the British Empire, it is just Britain; the rest of the world would just carry on if Britain were to just vanish into thin air.

Justjustice,where is your justice?All i want to say is that basicaly you are picking on a person who thought who's voice would be heard.Not my fault people like you seem to know alot more than we do.First of all i am a british citizen,i dont care how i type on here,second we are all entitled to comment on here and third shut your mouth!.I never tol anyone to comment so if something is itching up your backsides then go wash yourself as i cant be asked arguing with silly retarded people like you.Welcome to bradford.......Peace out!!!!

EBE-3 wrote:
The solution is improved energy efficiency measures with economy 7 electric running at least one large storage heater on full with the vent closed each night. This will cost 40 to 50 pounds per month and will provide round the clock heat throughout a flat or small one or two bed house. I know because I lived in a one bed flat and I ran only one large storage heater in a well insulated property and the whole flat would heat up brilliantly. You must close the vent on the heater in order to store enough heat through the night using eco 7 heating which is cheap. Open the vent during the day to allow heat to escape or keep it half open. At the moment I am living in a one bed flat owned by Manningham Housing and it is absolutely ridiculously expensive to heat up because it is not insulated, has old style radiators, is damp, moldy and I do not know how staff at manningham housing sleep at night knowing they are ripping their tenants off with sub standard properties. Some of you lot who have nothing nice to say need to shut the you know what up because if you said what you are saying in front of me, I'd probably find it hard to stop myself from swiping a back hand you disgusting lowlifes. I cannot believe how racist people are and so extremely insensitive towards each others' circumstances. There are no efffing jobs. Even for educated and experienced people like me. People become trapped into the benefit system threw no fault of their own and after a year or longer on benefits, you do become morally degraded and it shows and that further prevents gaining employment. You thick Bs. Stupid, nearly all of you. Pathetic comments above. This is Bradford. I've turned my back on Bradford after almost twenty years living here and wherever I go, I meet racist cold hearted, disgusting people in every walk of life, whether it's Housing Advisors who know little to nothing about housing issues, racism and negative discrimination from the job centre, employers, the police, colleges, the job ******* lot. I am ashamed of this place, I'm ashamed of Bradfordians, I'm sick of the God Damned mess, corruption at all levels, people pointing fingers. I am a law abiding citizen who goes out of his way and risks his life for his local community, I studied hard, got qualification but they are useless in a place run by gangster and quiet frankly evil characters who got their jobs not through qualifications but because of who they know regardless of how ignorant and stupid they really are. Hang your heads in shame. All of you. You make me sick. Everytime you come on here, this is all you hear. Nothing but BS. Pure Bradfordian BS. This is my experience of this place and it needs renaming as BadFord. Because it has been a very bad experience for me. I cannot wait to get the hell out of here, I truly cannot. I am at a stage where I will do anyhing, ANYTHING, to get enough money to escape this place. It has been hell. **** you Bradford and all bad Bradfordians. Be damned you besterds. Be Truly Damned. UY.

You really need to get a grip.If your not happy here then get out of here.Everyone is struggling right now not just you.I work two jobs and i am still struggling! Also keep your stupid comments to yourself. And as for the rest your all dumb racist dogs get off your backside and go to work rather than comment on here as no one is listening to you. The last sentence i will ryt da way i want now haha im a proud sikh i dont care wot u dumb ppl write its my lyf and i will make sure ppl lyk u r out ov here!!!!

sammy33 wrote:

EBE-3 wrote: The solution is improved energy efficiency measures with economy 7 electric running at least one large storage heater on full with the vent closed each night. This will cost 40 to 50 pounds per month and will provide round the clock heat throughout a flat or small one or two bed house. I know because I lived in a one bed flat and I ran only one large storage heater in a well insulated property and the whole flat would heat up brilliantly. You must close the vent on the heater in order to store enough heat through the night using eco 7 heating which is cheap. Open the vent during the day to allow heat to escape or keep it half open. At the moment I am living in a one bed flat owned by Manningham Housing and it is absolutely ridiculously expensive to heat up because it is not insulated, has old style radiators, is damp, moldy and I do not know how staff at manningham housing sleep at night knowing they are ripping their tenants off with sub standard properties. Some of you lot who have nothing nice to say need to shut the you know what up because if you said what you are saying in front of me, I'd probably find it hard to stop myself from swiping a back hand you disgusting lowlifes. I cannot believe how racist people are and so extremely insensitive towards each others' circumstances. There are no efffing jobs. Even for educated and experienced people like me. People become trapped into the benefit system threw no fault of their own and after a year or longer on benefits, you do become morally degraded and it shows and that further prevents gaining employment. You thick Bs. Stupid, nearly all of you. Pathetic comments above. This is Bradford. I've turned my back on Bradford after almost twenty years living here and wherever I go, I meet racist cold hearted, disgusting people in every walk of life, whether it's Housing Advisors who know little to nothing about housing issues, racism and negative discrimination from the job centre, employers, the police, colleges, the job ******* lot. I am ashamed of this place, I'm ashamed of Bradfordians, I'm sick of the God Damned mess, corruption at all levels, people pointing fingers. I am a law abiding citizen who goes out of his way and risks his life for his local community, I studied hard, got qualification but they are useless in a place run by gangster and quiet frankly evil characters who got their jobs not through qualifications but because of who they know regardless of how ignorant and stupid they really are. Hang your heads in shame. All of you. You make me sick. Everytime you come on here, this is all you hear. Nothing but BS. Pure Bradfordian BS. This is my experience of this place and it needs renaming as BadFord. Because it has been a very bad experience for me. I cannot wait to get the hell out of here, I truly cannot. I am at a stage where I will do anyhing, ANYTHING, to get enough money to escape this place. It has been hell. **** you Bradford and all bad Bradfordians. Be damned you besterds. Be Truly Damned. UY.

You really need to get a grip.If your not happy here then get out of here.Everyone is struggling right now not just you.I work two jobs and i am still struggling! Also keep your stupid comments to yourself. And as for the rest your all dumb racist dogs get off your backside and go to work rather than comment on here as no one is listening to you. The last sentence i will ryt da way i want now haha im a proud sikh i dont care wot u dumb ppl write its my lyf and i will make sure ppl lyk u r out ov here!!!!

Please, if you do not like what I am saying then ignore it. You got two jobs and you cannot make ends meet??? Why don't you spend less on **** andmaybe somebody else can have your second job you greedy bear. I cannot wait to get away from people with your level of communication which proves me point further that Bradford is run by retards for retards and everybody needs to stay the hell away from here. You got two jobs, cannot spell and are probably **** at math, because your struggling on two pay packets. I think, people like you is what is wrong with Bradford, you obviously can't be doing your job properly if you can't read and write properly. Proud Sikh!! ha ha ha ha ha haha ha, keep repeating it to yourself over and over and over until you believe it. ha ha ha ha ha ha.

@sammy33, I mean all that in a benign way. Don't take it to heart. x. :)

EBE-3 wrote:
@sammy33, I mean all that in a benign way. Don't take it to heart. x. :)

You know what,no offence taken EBE as long as i am working and can pay my bills,it dont bother me.Also as long you can read what i write on here there should not be any problem.I thought we were all aloud to comment on here and i am someone new here i thought i could comment but i guess people who already comment here are the only ones aloud.

EBE-3 wrote:
The solution is improved energy efficiency measures with economy 7 electric running at least one large storage heater on full with the vent closed each night. This will cost 40 to 50 pounds per month and will provide round the clock heat throughout a flat or small one or two bed house. I know because I lived in a one bed flat and I ran only one large storage heater in a well insulated property and the whole flat would heat up brilliantly. You must close the vent on the heater in order to store enough heat through the night using eco 7 heating which is cheap. Open the vent during the day to allow heat to escape or keep it half open. At the moment I am living in a one bed flat owned by Manningham Housing and it is absolutely ridiculously expensive to heat up because it is not insulated, has old style radiators, is damp, moldy and I do not know how staff at manningham housing sleep at night knowing they are ripping their tenants off with sub standard properties. Some of you lot who have nothing nice to say need to shut the you know what up because if you said what you are saying in front of me, I'd probably find it hard to stop myself from swiping a back hand you disgusting lowlifes. I cannot believe how racist people are and so extremely insensitive towards each others' circumstances. There are no efffing jobs. Even for educated and experienced people like me. People become trapped into the benefit system threw no fault of their own and after a year or longer on benefits, you do become morally degraded and it shows and that further prevents gaining employment. You thick Bs. Stupid, nearly all of you. Pathetic comments above. This is Bradford. I've turned my back on Bradford after almost twenty years living here and wherever I go, I meet racist cold hearted, disgusting people in every walk of life, whether it's Housing Advisors who know little to nothing about housing issues, racism and negative discrimination from the job centre, employers, the police, colleges, the job ******* lot. I am ashamed of this place, I'm ashamed of Bradfordians, I'm sick of the God Damned mess, corruption at all levels, people pointing fingers. I am a law abiding citizen who goes out of his way and risks his life for his local community, I studied hard, got qualification but they are useless in a place run by gangster and quiet frankly evil characters who got their jobs not through qualifications but because of who they know regardless of how ignorant and stupid they really are. Hang your heads in shame. All of you. You make me sick. Everytime you come on here, this is all you hear. Nothing but BS. Pure Bradfordian BS. This is my experience of this place and it needs renaming as BadFord. Because it has been a very bad experience for me. I cannot wait to get the hell out of here, I truly cannot. I am at a stage where I will do anyhing, ANYTHING, to get enough money to escape this place. It has been hell. **** you Bradford and all bad Bradfordians. Be damned you besterds. Be Truly Damned. UY.

see ya

I don't get people saying they cannot get jobs! If you really want a job go and get one, either you have too high standards or are just bone idle. I wanted a second jobs around my current job, so as you can imagine very specific times. Yet after applying for hundreds of jobs I received responses and within a month I actually had a number of options. I'm not highly educated, I've got gcses and a levels but no degree and left school to work. Even my young brother who is studying was singing the same old song but after a stern word he soon put the effort in and within weeks was working!

Dojo121 wrote:
I don't get people saying they cannot get jobs! If you really want a job go and get one, either you have too high standards or are just bone idle. I wanted a second jobs around my current job, so as you can imagine very specific times. Yet after applying for hundreds of jobs I received responses and within a month I actually had a number of options. I'm not highly educated, I've got gcses and a levels but no degree and left school to work. Even my young brother who is studying was singing the same old song but after a stern word he soon put the effort in and within weeks was working!

well said

There are plenty of jobs out there but some...not all dont see the point in going to work for say an extra £30 a week compared to benefits....its bone idle laziness really

Dojo121 wrote:
I don't get people saying they cannot get jobs! If you really want a job go and get one, either you have too high standards or are just bone idle. I wanted a second jobs around my current job, so as you can imagine very specific times. Yet after applying for hundreds of jobs I received responses and within a month I actually had a number of options. I'm not highly educated, I've got gcses and a levels but no degree and left school to work. Even my young brother who is studying was singing the same old song but after a stern word he soon put the effort in and within weeks was working!

People cannot get jobs because the welfare system leaves them degraded and demoralised and depressed and when that happens you look bad. Also you become isolated within a subculture where you spend long periods of time without doing much with friends and living in poverty which further causes embarassment and a reluctance to present your self positively because you have been low nutrition food that affects your appearance and mood further undermining your chances to succeed. Then, after a year or so and with fierce competition from school leavers being taken on as apprentices and working for less, leaving all those already struggling in a dead end street. Then there comes a time when all things combined such as fuel poverty, food poverty, poor diets, poor quality living all conspires to bring you to your knees and become unemployable in the sight of employers who want sexy young talent who come from nice happy smiley families and no problems whatsoever. By this time you feel ill, look ill and taking care of yourself becomes almost not worth it. Then you withdraw from social eventand society because you feel embarrased that you are a burden on everybody else who looks upon you with contempt further hammering in the nails of the coffin that you shall die in a living death. Then, maybe you turn to drug or prostitution and other forms of deviance to support yourself which further **** you up. Then you end up on a sick note. Then you are fully conditioned to accept what you are and to go through the re-conditioning in order to slot back into society simply out of your reach becuase you are in it to your neck. All the while people are spitting at you and making remarks about how ***ed up you look. Then you die from either being killed, overdosing or suicide. And nobody gives a flying ****. You hearing this? Ya feel me?

I hear you, poor attitude, pure laziness! Like I said if you wanted a job, scrub up and get one. Sexy school leavers ha!!! Have you seen them, if you can't compete with school leavers then you really are selling yourself short!!!

EBE-3 wrote:

Dojo121 wrote: I don't get people saying they cannot get jobs! If you really want a job go and get one, either you have too high standards or are just bone idle. I wanted a second jobs around my current job, so as you can imagine very specific times. Yet after applying for hundreds of jobs I received responses and within a month I actually had a number of options. I'm not highly educated, I've got gcses and a levels but no degree and left school to work. Even my young brother who is studying was singing the same old song but after a stern word he soon put the effort in and within weeks was working!

People cannot get jobs because the welfare system leaves them degraded and demoralised and depressed and when that happens you look bad. Also you become isolated within a subculture where you spend long periods of time without doing much with friends and living in poverty which further causes embarassment and a reluctance to present your self positively because you have been low nutrition food that affects your appearance and mood further undermining your chances to succeed. Then, after a year or so and with fierce competition from school leavers being taken on as apprentices and working for less, leaving all those already struggling in a dead end street. Then there comes a time when all things combined such as fuel poverty, food poverty, poor diets, poor quality living all conspires to bring you to your knees and become unemployable in the sight of employers who want sexy young talent who come from nice happy smiley families and no problems whatsoever. By this time you feel ill, look ill and taking care of yourself becomes almost not worth it. Then you withdraw from social eventand society because you feel embarrased that you are a burden on everybody else who looks upon you with contempt further hammering in the nails of the coffin that you shall die in a living death. Then, maybe you turn to drug or prostitution and other forms of deviance to support yourself which further **** you up. Then you end up on a sick note. Then you are fully conditioned to accept what you are and to go through the re-conditioning in order to slot back into society simply out of your reach becuase you are in it to your neck. All the while people are spitting at you and making remarks about how ***ed up you look. Then you die from either being killed, overdosing or suicide. And nobody gives a flying ****. You hearing this? Ya feel me?

So from reading above it appears you not having a job is in no way your fault but the fault of everyones else

Get over yourself will ya

Get you lazy 4rse out there...knock on doors...introduce yourself to people....apply for anything and everything and a job will come.

Having such a negative outlook on the situation as it appears you have yes I agree will put employers off as who wants to employ someone who blames everyone but themselves. Get your 4rse in gear and at least act driven to secure a job. Or are you too "depressed" to work?. Tell you something working 60 hours a week and raising 4 jobs is "depressing" but most of us get on with it

EBE-3 wrote:

Dojo121 wrote: I don't get people saying they cannot get jobs! If you really want a job go and get one, either you have too high standards or are just bone idle. I wanted a second jobs around my current job, so as you can imagine very specific times. Yet after applying for hundreds of jobs I received responses and within a month I actually had a number of options. I'm not highly educated, I've got gcses and a levels but no degree and left school to work. Even my young brother who is studying was singing the same old song but after a stern word he soon put the effort in and within weeks was working!

People cannot get jobs because the welfare system leaves them degraded and demoralised and depressed and when that happens you look bad. Also you become isolated within a subculture where you spend long periods of time without doing much with friends and living in poverty which further causes embarassment and a reluctance to present your self positively because you have been low nutrition food that affects your appearance and mood further undermining your chances to succeed. Then, after a year or so and with fierce competition from school leavers being taken on as apprentices and working for less, leaving all those already struggling in a dead end street. Then there comes a time when all things combined such as fuel poverty, food poverty, poor diets, poor quality living all conspires to bring you to your knees and become unemployable in the sight of employers who want sexy young talent who come from nice happy smiley families and no problems whatsoever. By this time you feel ill, look ill and taking care of yourself becomes almost not worth it. Then you withdraw from social eventand society because you feel embarrased that you are a burden on everybody else who looks upon you with contempt further hammering in the nails of the coffin that you shall die in a living death. Then, maybe you turn to drug or prostitution and other forms of deviance to support yourself which further **** you up. Then you end up on a sick note. Then you are fully conditioned to accept what you are and to go through the re-conditioning in order to slot back into society simply out of your reach becuase you are in it to your neck. All the while people are spitting at you and making remarks about how ***ed up you look. Then you die from either being killed, overdosing or suicide. And nobody gives a flying ****. You hearing this? Ya feel me?

I get what you are saying here. But don't forget, however depressed, socially repressed, ill, sickly and messed up you are, according to ATOS, you are fit for work !
Whether any boss out there will agree and give you a job is another matter.
But then, the government has come up with schemes, whereby the bosses get you to slave for them for free. Further lowering your self worth. At the end of the scheme you are expendable, some other poor desperate will take your place. Camerons buddies will continue to line their pockets from the fruits of your labours, while the tax-payer pays the wage bill. But hey, to most of those commenting on here, better that you work for nothing, than you get benefits! Thats rigt isn't it comrades ?

For the haters: I am moderatley educated in ITC, , I sleep no more than 6 hours per day, I keep extremely fit and have presented myself to many employers and I make the effort to 'sexy' and 'gorgeous' . I had a good job but my honesty made me lose it. I had another job but they messed around with my wages making me earn far less than the hours I put it. I fix peoples computers, I am a professional decorator, a plaster, (a gigola), (I wish) and now I am considering becoming a **** star or selling myself on the streets. I am a very positive person and I am ultra realistic rather than negative and I am far from anything that is lazy. I write a blog, have recently started working online as an affiliate, I risk my life for others, worked for free for years and have done extensive voluntary work. I have applied to asda, who let you apply every six months and they tell you they are delighted to receive your application and then they take ten seconds to tell you to *off. I applied more times than I can count to Morries, Sainsburies and Tesco. I applied to restaurants even though I know I cannot afford to such low wages. Now I have rings under my eyes and the pain shows on my face because it leaves it's marks upon you and they are clearly readable and difficult to mask especially if you are relying on own branded low nutritional value garbage packaged in a factory where workers spit in your food because they know poor people are going to eat it.

But , thankfully for my humble self, I never give up and fight it through and I keep the faith and not deviate because I am morally grounded but a lesser man would do things I will not and that costs everybody.

They put me on a Work Programme, I did the Learn direct courses, got a few level 2 qualifications and hopefully I'll get something somewhere sometime soonish, hopefully before I die. x Love EBe. From A Galaxy many light years away and lost on planet earth looking for my way home! Peace an Love Y'all.

By paying your taxes in order to sustain a welfare system is in the own interests of a nation. The money ends up back in local businesses who just so happen to be your employers consolidating your future prospects by paying taxes and building a bigger business and so hence further employment. Where do you think my benefits go exactly, they go to local and big businesses who emply large numbers of people and my money ends up back in your pockets through sustained profits that leads to further develpoment. People, People please think and think hard about how you view others. It is the responsibility of those who are in positions of authority who help those lesser able to raise themselves up to your 'standards'. Don't knock us like you do because we lower ourselves and most of us stay on the straight and narrow and do not commit crimes to make money. You should feel proud that you are helping others who would otherwise die or become debilitated and a far bigger 'burden' (which in reality they are not) on society. I am thankful for my benefits and if some of you who are crying about paying taxes to help other, invite me round and I'll do work for you for free so long as you give me a good reference. I put back into society what it gives me, maybe more, and I do it selflessly, I pick litter up, I have confronted thieves, recovered expensive stolen goods and had them returned to whom they belong, I feed strays and manage to pay to charities and help whomsoever I can to repay my debt to you who have payed your taxes. I am grateful to you. I am not alone and there are others like me who do not feel it is right to scrounge and leech off of others without somehow putting something back.

My advice, get yourself online on reeds job site and apply apply apply, works every time, just put the time in

nowt fresh wrote:
Good old Maggie left a great legacy of "free market forces" that will drive down consumer costs she preached, Electric/Gas about 6 big providers working as a cartel (fixing prices) just the same as oil companies,water companies,train companies, please feel free to add to the list..!! but then again people earning over £1million a year will be O/K with their top rate of tax reducing to 45% from 50% don't you just love the "WERE ALL IN IT TOGETHER" comment Eton College educated David Cameron said, maybe some are in it more than others Mr Cameron??, some of the comments on here come straight out of "A Christmas Carol" are there not work houses,debtors prisons, this is Britain in the 21st century not Victorian Britain, unbelievable comments from some above..!!

Spot on
cartels eveywhere with government backing.
Yorkshire Water now owned by 4 big foreign banks.
YW made 303 million last year and paid 2 million corporation tax.

Osborne in charge of the countries finances is clueless.Rejected on leaving college by newspapers in his quest to become.....a journalist.

The only qualification he has to do the job he has is being Camerons Bullingdon Club buddy at Eton
Or should that be bully as they seek to rough up the poor.

Yes there has always been scroungers in this country and they are now joined by several million more from other countries who land here legally and illegally with little prospect of work.

The price we pay for treating them with contempt in ruling the world all those years back?

Who knows.

But its gone too far.Britain was no longer great years ago.

Now its just plain F****d.
And still we won"t get a vote on Europe.

Sadly Bradford has become poorer than many of those countries people are coming from.

Everyone from Bradford I have known over 50 years is depressed at how this City has become.

And every day it just gets a little worse

I hate to say it but history has shown a world war is often at the end of a world economic crisis as we are in.
God forbid.

birday wrote:

undercliffebantam wrote:

mad matt wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote: They wouldn't be in fuel poverty if their household income was higher.

This is what it's all about - obviously!

What an absolute ignorant ignorant idiot you are (part of the "I,m all right jack" brigade) you don't know anything about personal circumstance. There are people that work who can,t afford their fuel bills.

Then people should either get a second job and or: Ditch the mobile phones, satalite tv and internet subscriptions Turn off the computer/laptops, ipad, ipods Limit computer game playing time Turn off the lights operating in every room of the house Turn down the central heating Start wearing winter clothing eg socks and long sleeve jumbers Start cooking instead of buying ready made meals and take aways and buy supermarket everyday brands rather than branded food etc etc . And no - before you say it, I don't have it all but I do have a good sense of what I can and can't afford!! I also don't expect to have everything provided and available to me despite my circumstances.

wheres the second job today Birday.

This town has more closing daily to make attaining even a first job difficult.

Thought you were educated having read your posts for some time.

Clearly not in the harsh economic reality of whats going on in Bradford.

Within a few years there saying Bradford will have a population of 50 per cent under 25.

With little prospect of work.

Must go the police helicopters above.

The poor are obviously out seeing what PR3"s Blackberry"s laptops and any other value christmas presents can be burgled.

3 on our street in the last month or two.

As galloway said when there is no work the devil makes work.
Thats one thing is right on.

Now where is he these past few months?
Driving"t bus to free Palestine?

Leave that too to god.

Bradford folk need him here working on THEIR behalf and international celebrity status can be left the the likes of other failures as Blair Kinnock and Brown

Or many from the Tory party too

Let them eat cake

Picture this ; Cameron and Chancellor get drunk at the earth dumbit i mean summit, and to reduce our carbon foot print in the UK for good so none of us have an effect on globollock warming, i mean global warming ever again; Move the entire population to a warmer climate and let the border guards have a long break.

sammy33 wrote:

Silsdenman wrote:

sammy33 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
2 be honest,if there wer less ppl popping in from all over different countrys n taking up all our space facilities n our money then maybe our financial status wud get better!!their taking over everything us brittons need as no mata how hard working we are they still get the benefit 4 not working!!!! Wer british and living in poverty when all the asylum seekers are getting everything here!!!! Not being racist or anything but i think we deserve a wee bit more here.....

I take it you never bothered with going to school.

I did go school mate i dont need to type on here the way u educated people do.its a free country and we can type the way we want.....but still just to prove to you i have!! Try to understand the comment not the way words are put in.

Moron.

Excuse me????

No, I don't think you should be excused. Justjustice explained very eloquently below. Maybe you aren't a moron but unfortunately it's difficult to tell as you don't think that writing properly is necessary.

Few quick facts for the racist morons.

To the racist morons who keep blaming the 'foreigners' let me please set the record straight. Generally the people making such racist comments are Caucasian; meaning that these people migrated to the UK from the Caucas region of Georgia/Ossettia. Will all these Caucasian, racist pieces of pooh stop blaming the foreigners and take a look at your self and f off from the UK as you are the true immigigrant who is 100% illegal. Don't take my word from it just ask a solicitor or a decent historian what a caucasian is!

Secondly, the more people on the land makes it a lesser/more equal burden on the tax system and takes pressure off the others ( not the super rich of course as they are fat cats who just consume and suck this nations blood). For example this country has a massive national debt....the only way you so called racist Caucasions are going to pay this corrupt debt imposed upon its dumb people by successive corrupt governments is to open up the borders and let more migrants in. Some of these migrants are dark skinned and some are lighter skinned.

Do not forget, ask any economist or fiscal planner; and get ready for a wake up call.

for a country to survive it needs to have a healthy birth rate of 2.1 kids per family. The UK and most of European birth rates have been dropping to a point of no return.
Low birth rates mean that more of the people who live on the UK are becoming economic slaves to pay off the so called bogus national debt. The governments will have no choice but to continue letting more people in as they/the planners know that the only way to create future debt is to have a dumb population who is willing to continue to pay off bogus debts and act as a security/collateral.


Note of fact The UK is a limited company and each person with a national Insurance number and or Birth certificate has been passed in to slavery of this soulless corporation, all this has happened unknowingly and by the governments being underhand and full of deceit.

This is a vicious cycle that has ruined the European countries. Entire Europe including good old blighty has become a nation of slaves paying off debts for banks,failed policies and a pension bill which is just not doable with the current rates of tax. Expect more taxes in 2013 and expect further infringements of your rights under common law/magna carta and the bill of rights.

The UK has been bust since 1914 as we started to allow our currency to be manipulated and no longer backed by gold standard.

All this has gone on and all we have is a bunch of morons blaming each other about foreigners and economic policy. This shows how dumb the sheeple of the UK and Europe are whilst we keep affirming our status as slaves to the government.
Most of you just won't get any of this and neither will you do your research in to any thing I've said. If its not on the telly then surely it can't be true....to those morons I say you keep watching eastenders and co.
To those who wish to learn please check out a movement called ;

Freeman on the land

The British Constitution Group.

Max Kieser does Westminster.

Magna Carta

Bill of rights

Common Law

The obvious wrote:
Few quick facts for the racist morons.

To the racist morons who keep blaming the 'foreigners' let me please set the record straight. Generally the people making such racist comments are Caucasian; meaning that these people migrated to the UK from the Caucas region of Georgia/Ossettia. Will all these Caucasian, racist pieces of pooh stop blaming the foreigners and take a look at your self and f off from the UK as you are the true immigigrant who is 100% illegal. Don't take my word from it just ask a solicitor or a decent historian what a caucasian is!

Secondly, the more people on the land makes it a lesser/more equal burden on the tax system and takes pressure off the others ( not the super rich of course as they are fat cats who just consume and suck this nations blood). For example this country has a massive national debt....the only way you so called racist Caucasions are going to pay this corrupt debt imposed upon its dumb people by successive corrupt governments is to open up the borders and let more migrants in. Some of these migrants are dark skinned and some are lighter skinned.

Do not forget, ask any economist or fiscal planner; and get ready for a wake up call.

for a country to survive it needs to have a healthy birth rate of 2.1 kids per family. The UK and most of European birth rates have been dropping to a point of no return.
Low birth rates mean that more of the people who live on the UK are becoming economic slaves to pay off the so called bogus national debt. The governments will have no choice but to continue letting more people in as they/the planners know that the only way to create future debt is to have a dumb population who is willing to continue to pay off bogus debts and act as a security/collateral.



Note of fact The UK is a limited company and each person with a national Insurance number and or Birth certificate has been passed in to slavery of this soulless corporation, all this has happened unknowingly and by the governments being underhand and full of deceit.

This is a vicious cycle that has ruined the European countries. Entire Europe including good old blighty has become a nation of slaves paying off debts for banks,failed policies and a pension bill which is just not doable with the current rates of tax. Expect more taxes in 2013 and expect further infringements of your rights under common law/magna carta and the bill of rights.

The UK has been bust since 1914 as we started to allow our currency to be manipulated and no longer backed by gold standard.

All this has gone on and all we have is a bunch of morons blaming each other about foreigners and economic policy. This shows how dumb the sheeple of the UK and Europe are whilst we keep affirming our status as slaves to the government.
Most of you just won't get any of this and neither will you do your research in to any thing I've said. If its not on the telly then surely it can't be true....to those morons I say you keep watching eastenders and co.
To those who wish to learn please check out a movement called ;

Freeman on the land

The British Constitution Group.

Max Kieser does Westminster.

Magna Carta

Bill of rights

Common Law

Go on you people, show yourselves you ain't dumb by reading and making your own history for a change.

Freedom is one heck of an over used term....yet no one has true freedom from this economic slavery.

Wake up you sheeple.

Those that are awake please educate others.

Silsdenman cannot take it if anyone posts a comment (tut tut) your all racist i swear.I will post as i like you daft idiotic people!!

We can post as we like its a free country!!

Free country ? Try not paying your taxes as you'll soon see how free some morons really are.

Ps morons are the ones who think they are free and believe the media non sense.

I'm getting on a bit and people like me are also getting on a bit...soon it'll be a nation of non thinking moronic sheeple...that's the current/next generation.

I do pay my taxes im not on benefits and enjoy working two jobs so what is your problem.you dont pay my bills etc,i do yes!!go and get a life mr obvious and pick on someone else you moron!!i come on here to comment not to listen to your sad pathetic lecture!

SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE THESE DOGS A BONE THEIR RATTLING TOO MUCH......

Im out of here getting quite boring now ive done my bit.....forget all u faggots im gratefull to the queen for helping us british citizens as we are nothing without her.if it wasnt for her we would not be able to survive a day here between you racist faggots.i will be putting in a big complain.u ppl think ur the ones only aloud to post on here not
Us!!

Cant be asked wasting time here got better things to do.as long as i have lighted a spark haha im gone!!

sammy33 wrote:
Im out of here getting quite boring now ive done my bit.....forget all u faggots im gratefull to the queen for helping us british citizens as we are nothing without her.if it wasnt for her we would not be able to survive a day here between you racist faggots.i will be putting in a big complain.u ppl think ur the ones only aloud to post on here not
Us!!

Cant be asked wasting time here got better things to do.as long as i have lighted a spark haha im gone!!

Q.E.D.

sammy33 wrote:
Im out of here getting quite boring now ive done my bit.....forget all u faggots im gratefull to the queen for helping us british citizens as we are nothing without her.if it wasnt for her we would not be able to survive a day here between you racist faggots.i will be putting in a big complain.u ppl think ur the ones only aloud to post on here not
Us!!

Cant be asked wasting time here got better things to do.as long as i have lighted a spark haha im gone!!

Go on then, I'll have a guess.
Is it Serbian? I can tell it's Slav, it's just very hard to decipher, what with it having been written by somebody who is quite clearly on crystal meth.

Shelfrhino wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
Im out of here getting quite boring now ive done my bit.....forget all u faggots im gratefull to the queen for helping us british citizens as we are nothing without her.if it wasnt for her we would not be able to survive a day here between you racist faggots.i will be putting in a big complain.u ppl think ur the ones only aloud to post on here not
Us!!

Cant be asked wasting time here got better things to do.as long as i have lighted a spark haha im gone!!

Go on then, I'll have a guess.
Is it Serbian? I can tell it's Slav, it's just very hard to decipher, what with it having been written by somebody who is quite clearly on crystal meth.

Oh ur bak then....did ur missy giv u permission to com bak on here then hmmmmm....i thnk she fed u a bone haha.....u chav.....BDW I DONT UNDERSTAND WOT UR SAYING REPEAT IN ENGLISH PLZ....u know alotabout drugs dont u carry on taking em....

Silsdenman wrote:

sammy33 wrote:
Im out of here getting quite boring now ive done my bit.....forget all u faggots im gratefull to the queen for helping us british citizens as we are nothing without her.if it wasnt for her we would not be able to survive a day here between you racist faggots.i will be putting in a big complain.u ppl think ur the ones only aloud to post on here not
Us!!

Cant be asked wasting time here got better things to do.as long as i have lighted a spark haha im gone!!

Q.E.D.

****.... D.K.H....