Group bids for support for entertainment plans

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: How the former Odeon could look under the bid How the former Odeon could look under the bid

A new plan to restore Bradford’s former Odeon building is to be revealed in detail at a launch event.

But first the Telegraph & Argus can provide a glimpse into how the building could look under the Bradford Live restoration plans.

The scheme aims to show how a world class live music venue, which would hold 3,500 people, could be created within the 1930s building.

It is the result of two years’ work by Bradford businessman Lee Craven to find a modern, viable use for the building, which has lain empty for a decade.

Mr Craven, a director of family textile firm Jessgrove, based in Great Horton, told the T&A he had first become interested in the future of the Odeon after taking on an earlier Bradford cinema restoration project – The Plaza at Cross Lane – which is now home to the Joshua Project.

He said: “When we managed to find the experts who could advise us, I asked whether a viable use could be found for the Odeon building. They came back and said we think it would work well as a live venue of that size.”

One sticking point could be the structural condition of the building, as Mr Craven’s team has not had access to it.

“We won’t know for sure until our engineers have been in, but nothing has come up so far that’s not insurmountable,” he said.

The businessman has put together a team including the country’s leading experts in auditorium renovation and restoration, and in the financing and management of live performance venues.

They hope to use a public-private financing model, similar to that used in the creation of the Leeds Arena and the refurbishment of the Barbican in York, to restore the Odeon.

Full details of the scheme are expected to be unveiled at the meeting, which takes place at the Midland Hotel at 10am on Wednesday.

The opportunity to save the 1930s building comes after the Homes and Communities Agency, which owns it, terminated a long-standing legal agreement in September with developer Langtree, which had wanted to demolish the building and build a £40 million New Victoria Place development of offices, a hotel and apartments.

Bradford Council is considering an offer from the HCA to take the building on for £1 plus £100,000 of maintenance cash.

In order to make a decision, the authority has appointed consultants White Young Green to undertake a structural survey of the building, the results of which are expected back early in the new year.

Mark Nicholson, a member of Bradford Odeon Rescue Group, said: “We are excited by the announcement of this proposal by a Bradford businessman to return the building back to one of its former uses.

“As the authority and historical custodian of the Odeon building, we were approached by the team behind this proposal in its very early stages and we were able to provide them with full technical information regarding the building's construction and layout via the blueprints and photos in our archive.”

A spokesman for Bradford One, which wants to bring the disused building into community ownership and turn it into a music and cultural venue, said they welcome the plan as it suggests there is a viable future for the former Odeon as a live entertainment venue.

“We do not see this as a rival bid to the plans we are drawing up ourselves, but another option for what we all want to see – a restored Odeon building.

“Ultimately the public will decide which plan they feel will suit our city best. Whichever plan goes forward, Bradford One will be fully behind it.

“We wish the team behind Bradford Live all the best and have already had contact with them to offer our support for their plans.

“To now be in a position where there are multiple bids to regenerate the Odeon is an absolute dream come true.

“We couldn’t imagine such a turnaround just a few months ago during the fight to stop demolition.”

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7:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

djmoulson says...

Fantastic news, I've thought for some time we should have an 'arts' quarter with the Media Museum, Picturville, Alhambra as the focal point, this could be the kick start that area of Bradord needs to regenerate and bring back missing footfall.
Fantastic news, I've thought for some time we should have an 'arts' quarter with the Media Museum, Picturville, Alhambra as the focal point, this could be the kick start that area of Bradord needs to regenerate and bring back missing footfall. djmoulson

8:36am Sat 8 Dec 12

wobbley-bob says...

Great news...... But watch all the red tape clog the idea up.
Great news...... But watch all the red tape clog the idea up. wobbley-bob

8:38am Sat 8 Dec 12

porkfat says...

The best idea so far, All this City needs is some vision, some aspiration and a council leader who looks like a credible person to do business with (loose the ear ring muppet) and it could be turned around.
The best idea so far, All this City needs is some vision, some aspiration and a council leader who looks like a credible person to do business with (loose the ear ring muppet) and it could be turned around. porkfat

8:39am Sat 8 Dec 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

A bit of common sense with regards to the odeon, its only taken 12 years.
A bit of common sense with regards to the odeon, its only taken 12 years. Thee Voice of Reason

8:41am Sat 8 Dec 12

jozieme says...

Great news that the Odean could be restored to it's original size, what a theatre it was.As a kid i remember the hundreds milling outside who couldn't get a seat to see Frankie Lane(1950's) I saw Buddy Holly and the Crickets in a packed audience. of 3000 plus....as well as Eddie Cochrane and Gene Vincent. and many more ..Modern Bands and artistes can command the same support .. given the right venue and this theatre could be that venue. In the film'Field of Dreams' If You Build it they will come ' was the theme and it could apply here to the Odeon.I hope that Bradford Council eventually sees sense and backs this restoration.,
Great news that the Odean could be restored to it's original size, what a theatre it was.As a kid i remember the hundreds milling outside who couldn't get a seat to see Frankie Lane(1950's) I saw Buddy Holly and the Crickets in a packed audience. of 3000 plus....as well as Eddie Cochrane and Gene Vincent. and many more ..Modern Bands and artistes can command the same support .. given the right venue and this theatre could be that venue. In the film'Field of Dreams' If You Build it they will come ' was the theme and it could apply here to the Odeon.I hope that Bradford Council eventually sees sense and backs this restoration., jozieme

8:51am Sat 8 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

Yes more good news on the New Victoria being restored.
Glad the 3 groups involved are on the same side, would be nice if somehow they could all three do the restoration together.
Yes more good news on the New Victoria being restored. Glad the 3 groups involved are on the same side, would be nice if somehow they could all three do the restoration together. Joedavid

8:54am Sat 8 Dec 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

If it proven it can be restored the T&A will have some serioua egg on their faces as they have reported for years that it should be knocked down as the councils mouth piece.
If it proven it can be restored the T&A will have some serioua egg on their faces as they have reported for years that it should be knocked down as the councils mouth piece. Thee Voice of Reason

10:05am Sat 8 Dec 12

Sally Way says...

We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her.

Demolish the odeon now and build something nice.

I also have good childhood times in the
Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out.

Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.
We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her. Demolish the odeon now and build something nice. I also have good childhood times in the Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out. Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it. Sally Way

10:13am Sat 8 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

Sally Way wrote:
We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her.

Demolish the odeon now and build something nice.

I also have good childhood times in the
Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out.

Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.
Knock it down because you think it is ugly, well let me tell you the Alhambra was ugly then 30 or so years ago, so look how that was improved on the outside.
You would have knocked that down!
[quote][p][bold]Sally Way[/bold] wrote: We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her. Demolish the odeon now and build something nice. I also have good childhood times in the Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out. Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.[/p][/quote]Knock it down because you think it is ugly, well let me tell you the Alhambra was ugly then 30 or so years ago, so look how that was improved on the outside. You would have knocked that down! Joedavid

10:17am Sat 8 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

Is Bradford Live on Twitter?
Do they have a web-site too?
Is Bradford Live on Twitter? Do they have a web-site too? Joedavid

10:18am Sat 8 Dec 12

vax2002 says...

The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer.
Please do not follow them.
If someone wants to build a music venue, let them take the rough with the smooth and fund the whole show.
Sign the building over on a lease.
Councillors are not clever enough to negotiate with businessmen, a few good lunches and they are always left holding the baby.
The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer. Please do not follow them. If someone wants to build a music venue, let them take the rough with the smooth and fund the whole show. Sign the building over on a lease. Councillors are not clever enough to negotiate with businessmen, a few good lunches and they are always left holding the baby. vax2002

10:34am Sat 8 Dec 12

Rambo says...

"The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer."

Source please?
"The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer." Source please? Rambo

10:37am Sat 8 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

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10:39am Sat 8 Dec 12

angry bradfordian says...

It'll be interesting to see the results of their structural survey.
If it suggests it's not in too bad a state to save then the quangos who've been telling us it's past saving should be brought to account.
It'll be interesting to see the results of their structural survey. If it suggests it's not in too bad a state to save then the quangos who've been telling us it's past saving should be brought to account. angry bradfordian

10:44am Sat 8 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

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Sorry Sally Way do not think that link works hope this will. http://www.gilldemol itions.co.uk/images/ archive-gallery-imag es/1984-Alhambra-The atre-Bradford.jpg Joedavid

11:03am Sat 8 Dec 12

vax2002 says...

Rambo wrote:
"The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer."

Source please?
Tin foil hat ?
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: "The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer." Source please?[/p][/quote]Tin foil hat ? vax2002

11:14am Sat 8 Dec 12

webess says...

Rambo wrote:
"The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer."

Source please?
In a public/private "partnership" it's invariably the case that the profits are privatised and the losses socialised. Way of the world...
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: "The Leeds arena has saddled the council tax payer with a huge 50 million pound debt that send the profits in to the pockets of big businesses and the bills to the tax payer." Source please?[/p][/quote]In a public/private "partnership" it's invariably the case that the profits are privatised and the losses socialised. Way of the world... webess

11:18am Sat 8 Dec 12

MontyLeMar says...

I like those artists' impressions, they give the city a bit of... style. I would suggest Mr Craven reserve a small portion of the project so that enthusiastic Bradfordians can buy some shares in the scheme. If this works then we can just fill in The Hole and build a new train station so that all the fans can get from Leeds and Manchester in double quick time.
I like those artists' impressions, they give the city a bit of... style. I would suggest Mr Craven reserve a small portion of the project so that enthusiastic Bradfordians can buy some shares in the scheme. If this works then we can just fill in The Hole and build a new train station so that all the fans can get from Leeds and Manchester in double quick time. MontyLeMar

11:28am Sat 8 Dec 12

MontyLeMar says...

Sally Way wrote:
We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her.

Demolish the odeon now and build something nice.

I also have good childhood times in the
Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out.

Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.
It's all very well saying "Knock it down and build something nice" but I think you will agree that most of what has been built recently in the centre of Bradford has been far from nice - eg Rawson. It's mostly been functional and cheap, designed to maximise profits for the landlords and minimise construction costs. I disagree with you on the appearance too. Brick is still a very attractive architectural feature.
[quote][p][bold]Sally Way[/bold] wrote: We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her. Demolish the odeon now and build something nice. I also have good childhood times in the Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out. Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.[/p][/quote]It's all very well saying "Knock it down and build something nice" but I think you will agree that most of what has been built recently in the centre of Bradford has been far from nice - eg Rawson. It's mostly been functional and cheap, designed to maximise profits for the landlords and minimise construction costs. I disagree with you on the appearance too. Brick is still a very attractive architectural feature. MontyLeMar

2:32pm Sat 8 Dec 12

djmoulson says...

MontyLeMar wrote:
Sally Way wrote:
We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her.

Demolish the odeon now and build something nice.

I also have good childhood times in the
Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out.

Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.
It's all very well saying "Knock it down and build something nice" but I think you will agree that most of what has been built recently in the centre of Bradford has been far from nice - eg Rawson. It's mostly been functional and cheap, designed to maximise profits for the landlords and minimise construction costs. I disagree with you on the appearance too. Brick is still a very attractive architectural feature.
Agreed...as The Victoria Quarter in Leeds is, well...plain ugly isn't it!!! Brick can look good if the right stone materials are utilised also.
[quote][p][bold]MontyLeMar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Way[/bold] wrote: We will spend ten years trying to save her, spend hundreds of thousands and then decide to demolish her. Demolish the odeon now and build something nice. I also have good childhood times in the Odeon but I moved on when odeon cinema moved out. Its an ugly red brick building can't understand why people are putting so much energy into it.[/p][/quote]It's all very well saying "Knock it down and build something nice" but I think you will agree that most of what has been built recently in the centre of Bradford has been far from nice - eg Rawson. It's mostly been functional and cheap, designed to maximise profits for the landlords and minimise construction costs. I disagree with you on the appearance too. Brick is still a very attractive architectural feature.[/p][/quote]Agreed...as The Victoria Quarter in Leeds is, well...plain ugly isn't it!!! Brick can look good if the right stone materials are utilised also. djmoulson

3:00pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent. Another Landless Peasant

5:02pm Sat 8 Dec 12

collos25 says...

What a load of **** Bradford council are incabable of making a correct decision of any kind.Or perhaps they make the right decisions for their wallets.
What a load of **** Bradford council are incabable of making a correct decision of any kind.Or perhaps they make the right decisions for their wallets. collos25

8:30pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Shelfrhino says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit.
It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it. Shelfrhino

11:52am Sun 9 Dec 12

nowt fresh says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)). nowt fresh

12:57pm Sun 9 Dec 12

bcfc1903 says...

Great idea....would love this to come to fruition. For me a world class concert and conference centre with a 3,500 capacity is what the city centre needs along with Westfield, bringing people into Bradford on afternoons and evenings. You would then get the added bonus of folk spending money in local hotels, restaurants and shops. It really is a no brainer without the need of any rocket scientists to work it out...yes maybe just maybe even Bradford council may see the light..just for once. As you may or may not know as i've commented on ideas for the Odeon building before...i'd call the building the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe as a tribute to the German/German Jewish migrants who did so very much to build the town of Bradford into a great city.
Great idea....would love this to come to fruition. For me a world class concert and conference centre with a 3,500 capacity is what the city centre needs along with Westfield, bringing people into Bradford on afternoons and evenings. You would then get the added bonus of folk spending money in local hotels, restaurants and shops. It really is a no brainer without the need of any rocket scientists to work it out...yes maybe just maybe even Bradford council may see the light..just for once. As you may or may not know as i've commented on ideas for the Odeon building before...i'd call the building the Delius, Rothenstein and Wolfe as a tribute to the German/German Jewish migrants who did so very much to build the town of Bradford into a great city. bcfc1903

6:00pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Mummys little Sunbeam says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).[/p][/quote]and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living. Mummys little Sunbeam

6:11pm Sun 9 Dec 12

nowt fresh says...

Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.
Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.
[quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).[/p][/quote]and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.[/p][/quote]Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??. nowt fresh

7:30pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Shelfrhino says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.
Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.
We live in hope..

You have me all wrong by the way.
If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy.
I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short,
I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).[/p][/quote]and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.[/p][/quote]Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.[/p][/quote]We live in hope.. You have me all wrong by the way. If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy. I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short, I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;) Shelfrhino

8:15pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Outraged English Subject says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.
Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.
We live in hope..

You have me all wrong by the way.
If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy.
I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short,
I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)
MMMMmmmmmm.....
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).[/p][/quote]and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.[/p][/quote]Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.[/p][/quote]We live in hope.. You have me all wrong by the way. If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy. I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short, I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)[/p][/quote]MMMMmmmmmm..... Outraged English Subject

8:26pm Sun 9 Dec 12

nowt fresh says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.
Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.
We live in hope.. You have me all wrong by the way. If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy. I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short, I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)
Youv'e got the names wrong Shelfrhino maybe it should be Shelfies Assassins or Shelfies Servants you should have been around in Oswald Mosley's time he would havebeen a great role model for you :-)).
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).[/p][/quote]and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.[/p][/quote]Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.[/p][/quote]We live in hope.. You have me all wrong by the way. If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy. I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short, I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)[/p][/quote]Youv'e got the names wrong Shelfrhino maybe it should be Shelfies Assassins or Shelfies Servants you should have been around in Oswald Mosley's time he would havebeen a great role model for you :-)). nowt fresh

9:04pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Shelfrhino says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.
Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.
In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).
and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.
Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.
We live in hope.. You have me all wrong by the way. If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy. I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short, I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)
Youv'e got the names wrong Shelfrhino maybe it should be Shelfies Assassins or Shelfies Servants you should have been around in Oswald Mosley's time he would havebeen a great role model for you :-)).
I put Shelfies Staff to begin with, then I remembered Shelfies Assistants have to exist first before the more efficient Shelfies Staffies can come into their own ( plus, black Hugo Boss shirts take longer to save up for) :-))
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: I hope there will be scope for community use, so people can stage all-nighters in aid of Rock Against The Tories (R.A.T.T.) or anti-Big Society, and anti-Bedroom Tax gigs and raves. It could become a focal point of organized dissent.[/p][/quote]Alternatively they could house you and all the other benefit claiming losers in it and save a fortune on housing benefit. It could be your own little commune and you could be in communist/ socialist nirvana or what ever you chose to call it.[/p][/quote]In all the threads in the T&A you come across as a very angry individual Shelfrhino, Christmas is around the corner try taking some of the comments by posters on these boards with a pinch of salt, instead of coming across as "Scrooge" (are there no prisons or work houses) for these people :-)).[/p][/quote]and in all his posts, ALP comes across as a workshy layabout who thinks the world owes him a living.[/p][/quote]Maybe as I suggest take his posts with a pinch of salt there are plenty of wind up merchants on these boards, I'm sure if he is as you say above Mr Cameron will soon be cutting his benifits ??.[/p][/quote]We live in hope.. You have me all wrong by the way. If I manage to get the cash together I will be active in the community helping the homeless beggars and the workshy. I will employ a group of like minded people with similar idea's to mine and call them Shelfies Assistants or SA for short, I would fork out for uniforms for them, something like brown shirts with fetching, black calf length boots would be good I reckon ;)[/p][/quote]Youv'e got the names wrong Shelfrhino maybe it should be Shelfies Assassins or Shelfies Servants you should have been around in Oswald Mosley's time he would havebeen a great role model for you :-)).[/p][/quote]I put Shelfies Staff to begin with, then I remembered Shelfies Assistants have to exist first before the more efficient Shelfies Staffies can come into their own ( plus, black Hugo Boss shirts take longer to save up for) :-)) Shelfrhino

1:28pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Andy2010 says...

Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off.

Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.
Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off. Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds. Andy2010

2:29pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Albion. says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off.

Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.
Gareth Gates.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off. Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.[/p][/quote]Gareth Gates. Albion.

2:35pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

Albion. wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off.

Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.
Gareth Gates.
Kimberly Walsh a better choice.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off. Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.[/p][/quote]Gareth Gates.[/p][/quote]Kimberly Walsh a better choice. Joedavid

4:28pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Andy2010 says...

Joedavid wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off. Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.
Gareth Gates.
Kimberly Walsh a better choice.
god please no none of them....in fact no-one associated with Bradford please just for the sake of it....go for someone who is up to date at least to at least get the youngsters interested in the venue before they start rolling out the older bands for the likes of myself
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: Fantastic news and what I have felt most would have hoped for as numerous people been banding this idea around for some time...lets hope they pull it off. Mind you Leeds get Elton John to open their arena....wonder who we could have for Bradford as 3500 isnt "that" bigger crowd. Mind you would be able to sell out numerous artists like the O2 academy does in Leeds.[/p][/quote]Gareth Gates.[/p][/quote]Kimberly Walsh a better choice.[/p][/quote]god please no none of them....in fact no-one associated with Bradford please just for the sake of it....go for someone who is up to date at least to at least get the youngsters interested in the venue before they start rolling out the older bands for the likes of myself Andy2010

6:51pm Mon 10 Dec 12

bcfc1903 says...

Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.
Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out. bcfc1903

8:16pm Mon 10 Dec 12

nowt fresh says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.
Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.[/p][/quote]Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)). nowt fresh

8:21pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

So back in time you both go, as I recall in those old days it was a first and second house so if you wish to repeat that too it would be 7000+ seats for a night at the New Victoria with the pop stars.
So back in time you both go, as I recall in those old days it was a first and second house so if you wish to repeat that too it would be 7000+ seats for a night at the New Victoria with the pop stars. Joedavid

8:47pm Mon 10 Dec 12

nowt fresh says...

Joedavid wrote:
So back in time you both go, as I recall in those old days it was a first and second house so if you wish to repeat that too it would be 7000+ seats for a night at the New Victoria with the pop stars.
Fair do's now Joedavid I remember it being called "TheGaumont" but "The New Victoria" was before my time although along with the above mentioned I also saw The Beatles,The Stones,Bill Haley,Gene Vincent,Ike & Tina Turner and many more..!! great days great menories :-)).
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: So back in time you both go, as I recall in those old days it was a first and second house so if you wish to repeat that too it would be 7000+ seats for a night at the New Victoria with the pop stars.[/p][/quote]Fair do's now Joedavid I remember it being called "TheGaumont" but "The New Victoria" was before my time although along with the above mentioned I also saw The Beatles,The Stones,Bill Haley,Gene Vincent,Ike & Tina Turner and many more..!! great days great menories :-)). nowt fresh

9:13pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Joedavid says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
So back in time you both go, as I recall in those old days it was a first and second house so if you wish to repeat that too it would be 7000+ seats for a night at the New Victoria with the pop stars.
Fair do's now Joedavid I remember it being called "TheGaumont" but "The New Victoria" was before my time although along with the above mentioned I also saw The Beatles,The Stones,Bill Haley,Gene Vincent,Ike & Tina Turner and many more..!! great days great menories :-)).
The name was changed from the New Victoria to the Gaumont in 1950, of course people referred it as the "New Vic".
Yes I'm old enough to remember the original name, although it was the Gaumont when I first went inside.
When restored back to as it was in the 1930's I do hope it will still be called the New Victoria thus that is what I refer to it as that. Indeed when restored it will be NEW!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: So back in time you both go, as I recall in those old days it was a first and second house so if you wish to repeat that too it would be 7000+ seats for a night at the New Victoria with the pop stars.[/p][/quote]Fair do's now Joedavid I remember it being called "TheGaumont" but "The New Victoria" was before my time although along with the above mentioned I also saw The Beatles,The Stones,Bill Haley,Gene Vincent,Ike & Tina Turner and many more..!! great days great menories :-)).[/p][/quote]The name was changed from the New Victoria to the Gaumont in 1950, of course people referred it as the "New Vic". Yes I'm old enough to remember the original name, although it was the Gaumont when I first went inside. When restored back to as it was in the 1930's I do hope it will still be called the New Victoria thus that is what I refer to it as that. Indeed when restored it will be NEW! Joedavid

6:07am Tue 11 Dec 12

alfucham says...

nowt fresh wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.
Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).
quite a shock to me too.

Did Bradfords own john Verity not join up with Free at some point mid seventies.

Yes BCFc 1903 you have gone up in estimation.

The Germans have their place in history.

Nuff said.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.[/p][/quote]Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).[/p][/quote]quite a shock to me too. Did Bradfords own john Verity not join up with Free at some point mid seventies. Yes BCFc 1903 you have gone up in estimation. The Germans have their place in history. Nuff said. alfucham

7:43pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bcfc1903 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.
Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).
Yeah bang on the money there Nowt Fresh (lol new romantic)...with my age and music. It was St George's Hall nt....i was (and am) such a massive fan of Free i walked into their University gig in Bradford around 1972 through the side entrance as the concert was sold out. Was amazed that no one pulled me up as i made my way to the stage then into the crowd. My all time favourite guitarist Paul Kossoff. Be my friend(F), Shooting Star(BC)....(always wondered if PK was the subject of that song)....love those songs and the others you mentioned. The Hunter was a signal for mass hysteria back in the day...still buzzing about yesterdays result..as the t&a says...INCREDIBLE.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.[/p][/quote]Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).[/p][/quote]Yeah bang on the money there Nowt Fresh (lol new romantic)...with my age and music. It was St George's Hall nt....i was (and am) such a massive fan of Free i walked into their University gig in Bradford around 1972 through the side entrance as the concert was sold out. Was amazed that no one pulled me up as i made my way to the stage then into the crowd. My all time favourite guitarist Paul Kossoff. Be my friend(F), Shooting Star(BC)....(always wondered if PK was the subject of that song)....love those songs and the others you mentioned. The Hunter was a signal for mass hysteria back in the day...still buzzing about yesterdays result..as the t&a says...INCREDIBLE. bcfc1903

8:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bcfc1903 says...

alfucham wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.
Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).
quite a shock to me too.

Did Bradfords own john Verity not join up with Free at some point mid seventies.

Yes BCFc 1903 you have gone up in estimation.

The Germans have their place in history.

Nuff said.
John Verity joined Argent in the mid seventies alf.

**

The Bradford German community migrated to Bradford in the 19th century..most were Jewish and most were involved in the export of woolen goods through their textile export houses in the town. You may know this already but they were at the forefront of building Bradford into a rich city...unfortunately the community was destroyed by the outbreak of the first world war with it being too small to ride out the anti German feeling around that time. I think it's safe to say that without the first world war intervening...Bradfo
rd would be today the dominant city in West Yorkshire.
[quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.[/p][/quote]Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).[/p][/quote]quite a shock to me too. Did Bradfords own john Verity not join up with Free at some point mid seventies. Yes BCFc 1903 you have gone up in estimation. The Germans have their place in history. Nuff said.[/p][/quote]John Verity joined Argent in the mid seventies alf. ** The Bradford German community migrated to Bradford in the 19th century..most were Jewish and most were involved in the export of woolen goods through their textile export houses in the town. You may know this already but they were at the forefront of building Bradford into a rich city...unfortunately the community was destroyed by the outbreak of the first world war with it being too small to ride out the anti German feeling around that time. I think it's safe to say that without the first world war intervening...Bradfo rd would be today the dominant city in West Yorkshire. bcfc1903

4:45pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Perhaps Billy Bragg would like to do a gig in Bradford?
Perhaps Billy Bragg would like to do a gig in Bradford? Another Landless Peasant

6:16pm Thu 13 Dec 12

nowt fresh says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.
Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).
Yeah bang on the money there Nowt Fresh (lol new romantic)...with my age and music. It was St George's Hall nt....i was (and am) such a massive fan of Free i walked into their University gig in Bradford around 1972 through the side entrance as the concert was sold out. Was amazed that no one pulled me up as i made my way to the stage then into the crowd. My all time favourite guitarist Paul Kossoff. Be my friend(F), Shooting Star(BC)....(always wondered if PK was the subject of that song)....love those songs and the others you mentioned. The Hunter was a signal for mass hysteria back in the day...still buzzing about yesterdays result..as the t&a says...INCREDIBLE.
Think your comment re Paul Kossoff and Shooting Star could well be true the words are very poignant and sum up the mans very short life, I went to see the original Bad Company at "The Manchester Apollo" in the early 70s ? and the place was rocking not the biggest of venues but the atmosphere fantastic, both great bands..!!
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Paul Rodgers would be a great choice for the first artist at a refurbished Odeon building. The Free and Bad Company front man would easily fill 3,500 seats in Bradford that is for sure. I'm old enough to remember the riotous concerts Free held at St Georges Hall in 1970...those were filled to the rafters. The lovely and talented Bradford lass Kimberly Walsh and her band Girls Aloud would do the same and easily sell the proposed 3,500 seat concert hall out.[/p][/quote]Now that would bring back some memories bcfc1903 Paul Rodgers...!!,the last time I saw Rodgers live was when he performed before for bloody Status Quo in Sheffield the Quo fans were hardly respectful blowing up their "plastic air guitars" whilst the great man performed Wishing Well,My Brother Jake,Shooting Star,The Hunter,Be My Friend ETC ETC, funny how you visualise people bcfc1903 I honestly took you for a mid 40s New Romantic type of guy but if you saw Free and Bad Company at the Old Gaumont you must be pushing 60 mate, who'd believe we both had Free/Bad Company and BradfordCity in common ;-)).[/p][/quote]Yeah bang on the money there Nowt Fresh (lol new romantic)...with my age and music. It was St George's Hall nt....i was (and am) such a massive fan of Free i walked into their University gig in Bradford around 1972 through the side entrance as the concert was sold out. Was amazed that no one pulled me up as i made my way to the stage then into the crowd. My all time favourite guitarist Paul Kossoff. Be my friend(F), Shooting Star(BC)....(always wondered if PK was the subject of that song)....love those songs and the others you mentioned. The Hunter was a signal for mass hysteria back in the day...still buzzing about yesterdays result..as the t&a says...INCREDIBLE.[/p][/quote]Think your comment re Paul Kossoff and Shooting Star could well be true the words are very poignant and sum up the mans very short life, I went to see the original Bad Company at "The Manchester Apollo" in the early 70s ? and the place was rocking not the biggest of venues but the atmosphere fantastic, both great bands..!! nowt fresh

4:59pm Fri 14 Dec 12

bcfc1903 says...

Never seen Bad Company live NF, but did buy their first couple or maybe three albums. I've got all Free's back catalogue of music... i guess i've bought their stuff twice over having got the original stuff on vinyl then got the remasters on CD. Last saw Koss perform at St George's Hall with his last band Back Street Crawler in 75, about a year before he passed away....a great gig..Paul was superb that night...the crowd reaction was passionate and was recorded that night and used on the bands live album 'Live at Croydon'...which i believe was released after Paul's death. The book 'Heavy Load' by David Clayton and Todd K. Smith gives a brilliant insight into the whole band and really does hammer home the drug turmoil Paul Kossoff was going through..the section on his passing is a real emotional read. I don't usually recommend stuff but if you are a fan of Free it's a book you need to read. The best way i can describe Paul's playing is that through his fingers there was a highway to his soul...
Never seen Bad Company live NF, but did buy their first couple or maybe three albums. I've got all Free's back catalogue of music... i guess i've bought their stuff twice over having got the original stuff on vinyl then got the remasters on CD. Last saw Koss perform at St George's Hall with his last band Back Street Crawler in 75, about a year before he passed away....a great gig..Paul was superb that night...the crowd reaction was passionate and was recorded that night and used on the bands live album 'Live at Croydon'...which i believe was released after Paul's death. The book 'Heavy Load' by David Clayton and Todd K. Smith gives a brilliant insight into the whole band and really does hammer home the drug turmoil Paul Kossoff was going through..the section on his passing is a real emotional read. I don't usually recommend stuff but if you are a fan of Free it's a book you need to read. The best way i can describe Paul's playing is that through his fingers there was a highway to his soul... bcfc1903

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