Plea for history of landmark building

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Landlord Stuart Carr outside the historic Park pub Landlord Stuart Carr outside the historic Park pub

One of Bradford’s landmark pubs reopens next week after a £150,000 make-over – and it is celebrating the new look by having its old name restored.

When the Park Hotel, in Keighley Road, opens its doors on Saturday it will be as The Turf. And licensee Stuart Carr wants to hear from Telegraph & Argus readers who can help him piece together the pub’s past.

A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894.

It was built opposite Lister Park after a toll road was created between Bradford and Bingley, suggesting it might have been a coaching inn.

Mr Carr, 42, said: “We are really keen to find out the history as we have very little information.

“I am very excited that the pub is going back to its original name. The Turf is what my generation remember it by and it is great we are going back to it.

“We’ve no idea where the name ‘The Turf’ came from. It makes you think of a patch of grass or something to do with horse racing, but we haven’t a clue what the link could be.”

Wear Inns, based in the North East and Yorkshire, bought the Park in October and shut it at the end of November for the refurbishment to take it back to a more traditional look.

The pub will be stocking cask ale from some Yorkshire micro-breweries and dishing up locally-sourced food. Mr Carr is also hoping to re-start sporting teams there.

“We want to get back to having sporting teams and would consider football, pool, darts or indeed any suggestions for other activities from our customers,” he said.

Anyone with any memories, photos or information about The Turf Tavern can e-mail turfbradford@wearinns.co.uk or go to Turf Tavern’s Facebook page.

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8:26am Sun 9 Dec 12

badford says...

Great pub back in late 80s early 90s lets hope the magic comes back .Taxi from town on regular basis !!!!
Great pub back in late 80s early 90s lets hope the magic comes back .Taxi from town on regular basis !!!! badford

9:04am Sun 9 Dec 12

Freddy says...

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Yes a great pub in the past.( But more recently an unfortunate dubious reputation in the clientèle it was attracting ).--Will it be open on Christmas Day ?. Will there be any food??
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To keep a Pub going today. There has to be great attractions and prices to attract. Unfortunately Supermarkets prices of Alcoholic beverages are destroying the need for expensive Pubs.
This Pub needs to create many diverse attractions--and engender a Local Community Meeting House/Spirit.. So people in that area can meet and greet, and get to know each other. There needs to be big screen television-Sports related programmes-major entertainment programmes etc.. PLUS CAN YOU GET SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR A SMOKERS ROOM ??.- Or can you make a really cosy outside area, for smokers to enjoy a pint and a fag!!!
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* Yes a great pub in the past.( But more recently an unfortunate dubious reputation in the clientèle it was attracting ).--Will it be open on Christmas Day ?. Will there be any food?? * To keep a Pub going today. There has to be great attractions and prices to attract. Unfortunately Supermarkets prices of Alcoholic beverages are destroying the need for expensive Pubs. This Pub needs to create many diverse attractions--and engender a Local Community Meeting House/Spirit.. So people in that area can meet and greet, and get to know each other. There needs to be big screen television-Sports related programmes-major entertainment programmes etc.. PLUS CAN YOU GET SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR A SMOKERS ROOM ??.- Or can you make a really cosy outside area, for smokers to enjoy a pint and a fag!!! * Freddy

9:31am Sun 9 Dec 12

mad matt says...

A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894.
If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894.
Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.
A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894. If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894. Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street. mad matt

10:00am Sun 9 Dec 12

collos25 says...

Give it a couple of years then it will be closed take about throwing good money down the drain.
Give it a couple of years then it will be closed take about throwing good money down the drain. collos25

10:34am Sun 9 Dec 12

Albion. says...

Good luck with the Turf, I hope it proves to be a decent, respectable and valued addition.
Good luck with the Turf, I hope it proves to be a decent, respectable and valued addition. Albion.

10:57am Sun 9 Dec 12

Avro says...

Great to see it coming back to life, but it will have to be doing something very special for it to survive in the long term and good luck to them..
Great to see it coming back to life, but it will have to be doing something very special for it to survive in the long term and good luck to them.. Avro

11:07am Sun 9 Dec 12

MontyLeMar says...

Good luck to them but I fear it's an area where the local population tend not to drink because of religious beliefs. What has happened to the Kings Arms, The Delvers and The Fountain just up Emm Lane is a warning. They were very busy pubs in the 60's, 70's and 80's with a thriving well-heeled local community, now look at them. Run down and struggling, The Fountain shut and burnt out. Whether it's just high prices or the local ethnicity I don't know but if they think The Turf is going to relive the heyday of the great British drinking tradition, forget it. I just hope Wear Inns haven't spent too much money. They may survive just like The Hare and Hounds on Toller Lane selling expensive pop and steaks.
Good luck to them but I fear it's an area where the local population tend not to drink because of religious beliefs. What has happened to the Kings Arms, The Delvers and The Fountain just up Emm Lane is a warning. They were very busy pubs in the 60's, 70's and 80's with a thriving well-heeled local community, now look at them. Run down and struggling, The Fountain shut and burnt out. Whether it's just high prices or the local ethnicity I don't know but if they think The Turf is going to relive the heyday of the great British drinking tradition, forget it. I just hope Wear Inns haven't spent too much money. They may survive just like The Hare and Hounds on Toller Lane selling expensive pop and steaks. MontyLeMar

12:44pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Is it haunted?
Is it haunted? Another Landless Peasant

4:34pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Brannigan says...

This is a most welcome addition to our choice of venues for a night out. With good management and marketing it will be a tremendous success. Good luck to all concerned.
This is a most welcome addition to our choice of venues for a night out. With good management and marketing it will be a tremendous success. Good luck to all concerned. Brannigan

4:42pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Shipleyvegas says...

collos25 wrote:
Give it a couple of years then it will be closed take about throwing good money down the drain.
Ah shush why can't you be pleased that there is a bit of investment going on?

Sounds like a good think for the pub, the area and the city to me.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: Give it a couple of years then it will be closed take about throwing good money down the drain.[/p][/quote]Ah shush why can't you be pleased that there is a bit of investment going on? Sounds like a good think for the pub, the area and the city to me. Shipleyvegas

5:43pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Mummys little Sunbeam says...

mad matt wrote:
A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894.
If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894.
Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.
There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.
[quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894. If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894. Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.[/p][/quote]There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane. Mummys little Sunbeam

8:03pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Outraged English Subject says...

Great news, I wish them all the best.
Great news, I wish them all the best. Outraged English Subject

8:39am Mon 10 Dec 12

yorkshiredude says...

Micro breweries? Sounds promising!
Micro breweries? Sounds promising! yorkshiredude

9:03am Mon 10 Dec 12

mad matt says...

Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
mad matt wrote:
A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894.
If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894.
Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.
There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.
That would be to catch any travellers coming up from Heaton then. Most of this history in on the first ordnance survey done for Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s for the battle of Bradford Moor.
[quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894. If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894. Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.[/p][/quote]There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.[/p][/quote]That would be to catch any travellers coming up from Heaton then. Most of this history in on the first ordnance survey done for Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s for the battle of Bradford Moor. mad matt

10:34am Mon 10 Dec 12

wja1966 says...

This used to be a good pub and then it got a lot of dodgy customers who regularly took cocaine openly on the tables as well as the toilets.
I stopped going in about 5 years ago but if this new landlord can be picky about the customers then it could become a great pub once again
This used to be a good pub and then it got a lot of dodgy customers who regularly took cocaine openly on the tables as well as the toilets. I stopped going in about 5 years ago but if this new landlord can be picky about the customers then it could become a great pub once again wja1966

12:58pm Mon 10 Dec 12

The Hoffster says...

mad matt wrote:
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
mad matt wrote:
A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894.
If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894.
Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.
There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.
That would be to catch any travellers coming up from Heaton then. Most of this history in on the first ordnance survey done for Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s for the battle of Bradford Moor.
Mr Cromwell will be happy to know that Asian folk have now taken over the area :D
[quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894. If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894. Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.[/p][/quote]There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.[/p][/quote]That would be to catch any travellers coming up from Heaton then. Most of this history in on the first ordnance survey done for Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s for the battle of Bradford Moor.[/p][/quote]Mr Cromwell will be happy to know that Asian folk have now taken over the area :D The Hoffster

1:12pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Albion. says...

The Hoffster wrote:
mad matt wrote:
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
mad matt wrote:
A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894.
If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894.
Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.
There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.
That would be to catch any travellers coming up from Heaton then. Most of this history in on the first ordnance survey done for Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s for the battle of Bradford Moor.
Mr Cromwell will be happy to know that Asian folk have now taken over the area :D
Good! Go and top yourself, then you can tell him.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mummys little Sunbeam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: A pub has stood on the site for more than 100 years with a foundation stone above the door dating the ‘Turf Tavern’ to 1894. If it was ever a coaching inn, then it must have been re-built as the Turf in 1894. Keighley Road itself is a relatively modern construction from Victorian times - the old Bradford to Keighley toll road used to run up Toller Lane, the toll gate was just above the junction with Church Street.[/p][/quote]There was also a toll gate at the junction of Leylands Lane / Toller Lane.[/p][/quote]That would be to catch any travellers coming up from Heaton then. Most of this history in on the first ordnance survey done for Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s for the battle of Bradford Moor.[/p][/quote]Mr Cromwell will be happy to know that Asian folk have now taken over the area :D[/p][/quote]Good! Go and top yourself, then you can tell him. Albion.

11:29pm Mon 10 Dec 12

angi. b says...

wja1966 wrote:
This used to be a good pub and then it got a lot of dodgy customers who regularly took cocaine openly on the tables as well as the toilets.
I stopped going in about 5 years ago but if this new landlord can be picky about the customers then it could become a great pub once again
It can be done....trust me, i know. i wish them good luck, its a beautiful building.
[quote][p][bold]wja1966[/bold] wrote: This used to be a good pub and then it got a lot of dodgy customers who regularly took cocaine openly on the tables as well as the toilets. I stopped going in about 5 years ago but if this new landlord can be picky about the customers then it could become a great pub once again[/p][/quote]It can be done....trust me, i know. i wish them good luck, its a beautiful building. angi. b

6:20am Tue 11 Dec 12

alfucham says...

MontyLeMar wrote:
Good luck to them but I fear it's an area where the local population tend not to drink because of religious beliefs. What has happened to the Kings Arms, The Delvers and The Fountain just up Emm Lane is a warning. They were very busy pubs in the 60's, 70's and 80's with a thriving well-heeled local community, now look at them. Run down and struggling, The Fountain shut and burnt out. Whether it's just high prices or the local ethnicity I don't know but if they think The Turf is going to relive the heyday of the great British drinking tradition, forget it. I just hope Wear Inns haven't spent too much money. They may survive just like The Hare and Hounds on Toller Lane selling expensive pop and steaks.
Ah all my old stomping ground.

Sadly the area is no longer populated by potential drinkers

The Park/Turf was the busiest place in Bradford for several years from the mid to late eighties.

But now with pints from the supermarket at 40p as opposed to £3.40p in pubs togerther with all the other social change these past ten years no amount of dressing up will bring back the halycon days.

They"ve gone forever and the pub is destined to follow the gin palaces of Hogarths Victoriana,the small cinema,the music hall,the fish N chip shop and the dodo.

See the gem the jacobs well boarded up again.

And the **** and bottle.

And the ring of Bells.

All cracking water holes 25 years back.
[quote][p][bold]MontyLeMar[/bold] wrote: Good luck to them but I fear it's an area where the local population tend not to drink because of religious beliefs. What has happened to the Kings Arms, The Delvers and The Fountain just up Emm Lane is a warning. They were very busy pubs in the 60's, 70's and 80's with a thriving well-heeled local community, now look at them. Run down and struggling, The Fountain shut and burnt out. Whether it's just high prices or the local ethnicity I don't know but if they think The Turf is going to relive the heyday of the great British drinking tradition, forget it. I just hope Wear Inns haven't spent too much money. They may survive just like The Hare and Hounds on Toller Lane selling expensive pop and steaks.[/p][/quote]Ah all my old stomping ground. Sadly the area is no longer populated by potential drinkers The Park/Turf was the busiest place in Bradford for several years from the mid to late eighties. But now with pints from the supermarket at 40p as opposed to £3.40p in pubs togerther with all the other social change these past ten years no amount of dressing up will bring back the halycon days. They"ve gone forever and the pub is destined to follow the gin palaces of Hogarths Victoriana,the small cinema,the music hall,the fish N chip shop and the dodo. See the gem the jacobs well boarded up again. And the **** and bottle. And the ring of Bells. All cracking water holes 25 years back. alfucham

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