Police sniffer dogs seek drugs at Keighley station

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Police sniffer dogs were on the hunt for illegal substances at Keighley Train Station and identified ten people who have recently come into contact with drugs.

Rail users were greeted with the sight of the sniffer dogs yesterday as part of an operation to cut down on nuisance drug taking after complaints from passengers and residents about alleged substance misuse.

Keighley Neighbourhood Policing Team (NPT) and a West Yorkshire Police dog were based in the station for three hours.

Officers stopped passengers if the dog reacted to the possible smell of cannabis on their clothes, and ten people were identified as recently having been in contact with drugs. Although no arrests were made, police issued several warnings.

They also kept their eye out for any anti-social behaviour at or around the station.

Eight officers from the NPT were involved, working with British Transport Police (BTP).

The officers also patrolled in nearby Dalton Lane and surrounding streets.

NPT constable Tanveer Hussain said the team was responding to concerns raised by several train passengers and residents over the nuisance behaviour of some of their fellow passengers, which included open drug taking.

After the operation, he said: “Crimes of this nature won’t be tolerated. The operation was very successful, it addressed some of the concerns passed to us by rail users. We will try and do regular operations like this to keep people satisfied the problem is being dealt with.

“Part of the campaign is that word gets out and it sends a message that we won’t tolerate this.”

Marten Lougee, vice-chairman of the Aire Valley Rail Users Group, lives in Keighley and has also worked with BTP on a national independent advisory group. He said while drug use was not a problem unique to any one station, such operations were vital to maintaining confidence in the rail system.

He said: “I welcome operations like this, it is a vital part in keeping the railway safe for commuters and passengers.

“This is the type of work done by British Transport Police around the country to keep the system safe for everyone. It lets drug users know there are no-go areas.”

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9:08am Thu 6 Dec 12

cheeky1 says...

Another useful thing dogs do!!so all you people who hate dogs there's one for you!!and all the good work they do in Afganistan!with our soldiers!
Another useful thing dogs do!!so all you people who hate dogs there's one for you!!and all the good work they do in Afganistan!with our soldiers! cheeky1
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10:35am Thu 6 Dec 12

Albion. says...

cheeky1 wrote:
Another useful thing dogs do!!so all you people who hate dogs there's one for you!!and all the good work they do in Afganistan!with our soldiers!
Fully agree!
Good to see they were responding to public concern.
Doubtless the resident scrounger will see it as victimisation.
[quote][p][bold]cheeky1[/bold] wrote: Another useful thing dogs do!!so all you people who hate dogs there's one for you!!and all the good work they do in Afganistan!with our soldiers![/p][/quote]Fully agree! Good to see they were responding to public concern. Doubtless the resident scrounger will see it as victimisation. Albion.
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11:06am Thu 6 Dec 12

Bone_idle18 says...

cheeky1 wrote:
Another useful thing dogs do!!so all you people who hate dogs there's one for you!!and all the good work they do in Afganistan!with our soldiers!
Same was as a gun in useful if a tiger is charging towards you :)
[quote][p][bold]cheeky1[/bold] wrote: Another useful thing dogs do!!so all you people who hate dogs there's one for you!!and all the good work they do in Afganistan!with our soldiers![/p][/quote]Same was as a gun in useful if a tiger is charging towards you :) Bone_idle18
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1:29pm Thu 6 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

And the cost of the operation that led to no arrests?
alleged substance misuse? The only thing being alleged here are the complaints from passengers and residents (unless Rob Higgie's been traveling or moved from his house in Baildon) and that any drug use is misuse. Drugs are a fact of life for many people and I fail to see how giving someone a criminal record and reducing their employability will help in their rehabilitation, if indeed the effects of their drug of choice are sufficiently detramental to their health and well-being for rehab to be needed.
Prejudice and ignorance at it's best.
#Breakingthetaboo

Keeps you in a job though doesn't it?
Eight officers from the NPT were involved, working with British Transport Police
“Part of the campaign is that word gets out and it sends a message that we won’t tolerate this.”
Well with Old people being attacked by gangs of elusive youth that for some reason police can't identify word has got out of how you are wasting time and taxpayers money and any right thinking person should be saying "we won't tolerate this"
And the cost of the operation that led to no arrests? alleged substance misuse? The only thing being alleged here are the complaints from passengers and residents (unless Rob Higgie's been traveling or moved from his house in Baildon) and that any drug use is misuse. Drugs are a fact of life for many people and I fail to see how giving someone a criminal record and reducing their employability will help in their rehabilitation, if indeed the effects of their drug of choice are sufficiently detramental to their health and well-being for rehab to be needed. Prejudice and ignorance at it's best. #Breakingthetaboo Keeps you in a job though doesn't it? Eight officers from the NPT were involved, working with British Transport Police “Part of the campaign is that word gets out and it sends a message that we won’t tolerate this.” Well with Old people being attacked by gangs of elusive youth that for some reason police can't identify word has got out of how you are wasting time and taxpayers money and any right thinking person should be saying "we won't tolerate this" RollandSmoke
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1:33pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

What a complete and utter waste of valuable Police resources, of time and public money. Why do they waste their time persecuting the harmless cannabis using public whilst OAPs are getting beaten and murdered?

LEGALIZE CANNABIS !!!
What a complete and utter waste of valuable Police resources, of time and public money. Why do they waste their time persecuting the harmless cannabis using public whilst OAPs are getting beaten and murdered? LEGALIZE CANNABIS !!! Another Landless Peasant
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1:35pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere. Another Landless Peasant
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1:45pm Thu 6 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
The fascists are coming and their wallets are getting fat, I might have a run out to Keighley, If they stop me and I tell them what I really think of them it may ensure I get a Christmas dinner this year.
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.[/p][/quote]The fascists are coming and their wallets are getting fat, I might have a run out to Keighley, If they stop me and I tell them what I really think of them it may ensure I get a Christmas dinner this year. RollandSmoke
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1:46pm Thu 6 Dec 12

SinnerSaint says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
They weren't just looking for cannabis!! You're just complaining because you're a t1t with a guilty conscience!

"I'll spend my money elsewhere". Haha.. You're always moaning that you haven't got any money you scrounging tosser! I'm sure the retailers in Keighley are in total despair reading that!
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.[/p][/quote]They weren't just looking for cannabis!! You're just complaining because you're a t1t with a guilty conscience! "I'll spend my money elsewhere". Haha.. You're always moaning that you haven't got any money you scrounging tosser! I'm sure the retailers in Keighley are in total despair reading that! SinnerSaint
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1:50pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Albion. says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
And the cost of the operation that led to no arrests?
alleged substance misuse? The only thing being alleged here are the complaints from passengers and residents (unless Rob Higgie's been traveling or moved from his house in Baildon) and that any drug use is misuse. Drugs are a fact of life for many people and I fail to see how giving someone a criminal record and reducing their employability will help in their rehabilitation, if indeed the effects of their drug of choice are sufficiently detramental to their health and well-being for rehab to be needed.
Prejudice and ignorance at it's best.
#Breakingthetaboo

Keeps you in a job though doesn't it?
Eight officers from the NPT were involved, working with British Transport Police
“Part of the campaign is that word gets out and it sends a message that we won’t tolerate this.”
Well with Old people being attacked by gangs of elusive youth that for some reason police can't identify word has got out of how you are wasting time and taxpayers money and any right thinking person should be saying "we won't tolerate this"
Well that lets you out.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: And the cost of the operation that led to no arrests? alleged substance misuse? The only thing being alleged here are the complaints from passengers and residents (unless Rob Higgie's been traveling or moved from his house in Baildon) and that any drug use is misuse. Drugs are a fact of life for many people and I fail to see how giving someone a criminal record and reducing their employability will help in their rehabilitation, if indeed the effects of their drug of choice are sufficiently detramental to their health and well-being for rehab to be needed. Prejudice and ignorance at it's best. #Breakingthetaboo Keeps you in a job though doesn't it? Eight officers from the NPT were involved, working with British Transport Police “Part of the campaign is that word gets out and it sends a message that we won’t tolerate this.” Well with Old people being attacked by gangs of elusive youth that for some reason police can't identify word has got out of how you are wasting time and taxpayers money and any right thinking person should be saying "we won't tolerate this"[/p][/quote]Well that lets you out. Albion.
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1:52pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Albion. says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
Oh! So you'll be raiding the skips of Bradford instead?
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Well I certainly won't be visiting Keighley to do my Christmas shopping. I'll spend my money elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Oh! So you'll be raiding the skips of Bradford instead? Albion.
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2:11pm Thu 6 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost? RollandSmoke
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2:27pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Albion. says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy.
You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened.
It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others.
If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre.
Still getting in Capper's place are you?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?[/p][/quote]No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy. You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened. It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others. If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre. Still getting in Capper's place are you? Albion.
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2:54pm Thu 6 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy.
You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened.
It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others.
If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre.
Still getting in Capper's place are you?
Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored.

“I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh

Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?[/p][/quote]No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy. You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened. It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others. If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre. Still getting in Capper's place are you?[/p][/quote]Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored. “I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals. RollandSmoke
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3:14pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Albion. says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy.
You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened.
It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others.
If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre.
Still getting in Capper's place are you?
Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored.

“I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh

Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.
You support crime and anarchy by trading with criminals and supporting certain ant-establishment movements.
Yes things for you might be different if certain substances were legalised....But they haven't been.....Yet!
CCCTV doesn't make a lot of things safer, you have seen the poor results on lots of systems yourself, it has had some successes, but lots of failures.
I was in a bank in the centre of Bradford a while ago, a guy came in and stole some money! They told me that I might have to be a witness and that everything was on CCCTV, I never heard any more and the pictures could have been anyone, you still have to know who it was doing the wrongdoing.
ALP is always keen on mentioning Amsterdam. But the (semi) legal cannabis in coffee houses there is still supplied by criminals.
Also we get people going on about the comparison of alcohol and cannabis but alcohol has been part of society here from before the first recording of history. It's fair enough if people are against it, but if you are, I don't see how two (legal) wrongs make a right.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?[/p][/quote]No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy. You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened. It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others. If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre. Still getting in Capper's place are you?[/p][/quote]Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored. “I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.[/p][/quote]You support crime and anarchy by trading with criminals and supporting certain ant-establishment movements. Yes things for you might be different if certain substances were legalised....But they haven't been.....Yet! CCCTV doesn't make a lot of things safer, you have seen the poor results on lots of systems yourself, it has had some successes, but lots of failures. I was in a bank in the centre of Bradford a while ago, a guy came in and stole some money! They told me that I might have to be a witness and that everything was on CCCTV, I never heard any more and the pictures could have been anyone, you still have to know who it was doing the wrongdoing. ALP is always keen on mentioning Amsterdam. But the (semi) legal cannabis in coffee houses there is still supplied by criminals. Also we get people going on about the comparison of alcohol and cannabis but alcohol has been part of society here from before the first recording of history. It's fair enough if people are against it, but if you are, I don't see how two (legal) wrongs make a right. Albion.
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3:31pm Thu 6 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy.
You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened.
It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others.
If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre.
Still getting in Capper's place are you?
Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored.

“I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh

Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.
You support crime and anarchy by trading with criminals and supporting certain ant-establishment movements.
Yes things for you might be different if certain substances were legalised....But they haven't been.....Yet!
CCCTV doesn't make a lot of things safer, you have seen the poor results on lots of systems yourself, it has had some successes, but lots of failures.
I was in a bank in the centre of Bradford a while ago, a guy came in and stole some money! They told me that I might have to be a witness and that everything was on CCCTV, I never heard any more and the pictures could have been anyone, you still have to know who it was doing the wrongdoing.
ALP is always keen on mentioning Amsterdam. But the (semi) legal cannabis in coffee houses there is still supplied by criminals.
Also we get people going on about the comparison of alcohol and cannabis but alcohol has been part of society here from before the first recording of history. It's fair enough if people are against it, but if you are, I don't see how two (legal) wrongs make a right.
That's because they arn't legal issues they are health issues. The legal issues revolve around the supply chain and can easily be resolved by licensing production. In the Ervine Welsh quote the substance abuse starts long before it becomes a matter that the police would have any interested in. The problem with substance abuse is one that lies within the user regardless of legality but the law may actually deter people who's usage is getting out of hand from seeking the help they need.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?[/p][/quote]No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy. You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened. It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others. If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre. Still getting in Capper's place are you?[/p][/quote]Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored. “I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.[/p][/quote]You support crime and anarchy by trading with criminals and supporting certain ant-establishment movements. Yes things for you might be different if certain substances were legalised....But they haven't been.....Yet! CCCTV doesn't make a lot of things safer, you have seen the poor results on lots of systems yourself, it has had some successes, but lots of failures. I was in a bank in the centre of Bradford a while ago, a guy came in and stole some money! They told me that I might have to be a witness and that everything was on CCCTV, I never heard any more and the pictures could have been anyone, you still have to know who it was doing the wrongdoing. ALP is always keen on mentioning Amsterdam. But the (semi) legal cannabis in coffee houses there is still supplied by criminals. Also we get people going on about the comparison of alcohol and cannabis but alcohol has been part of society here from before the first recording of history. It's fair enough if people are against it, but if you are, I don't see how two (legal) wrongs make a right.[/p][/quote]That's because they arn't legal issues they are health issues. The legal issues revolve around the supply chain and can easily be resolved by licensing production. In the Ervine Welsh quote the substance abuse starts long before it becomes a matter that the police would have any interested in. The problem with substance abuse is one that lies within the user regardless of legality but the law may actually deter people who's usage is getting out of hand from seeking the help they need. RollandSmoke
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3:47pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Albion. says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy.
You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened.
It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others.
If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre.
Still getting in Capper's place are you?
Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored.

“I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh

Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.
You support crime and anarchy by trading with criminals and supporting certain ant-establishment movements.
Yes things for you might be different if certain substances were legalised....But they haven't been.....Yet!
CCCTV doesn't make a lot of things safer, you have seen the poor results on lots of systems yourself, it has had some successes, but lots of failures.
I was in a bank in the centre of Bradford a while ago, a guy came in and stole some money! They told me that I might have to be a witness and that everything was on CCCTV, I never heard any more and the pictures could have been anyone, you still have to know who it was doing the wrongdoing.
ALP is always keen on mentioning Amsterdam. But the (semi) legal cannabis in coffee houses there is still supplied by criminals.
Also we get people going on about the comparison of alcohol and cannabis but alcohol has been part of society here from before the first recording of history. It's fair enough if people are against it, but if you are, I don't see how two (legal) wrongs make a right.
That's because they arn't legal issues they are health issues. The legal issues revolve around the supply chain and can easily be resolved by licensing production. In the Ervine Welsh quote the substance abuse starts long before it becomes a matter that the police would have any interested in. The problem with substance abuse is one that lies within the user regardless of legality but the law may actually deter people who's usage is getting out of hand from seeking the help they need.
Quite, there is certainly a question of motivation. And I would support better facilities for people who wish to reclaim their former selves.
The criminal fraternity who have made money out of drug supply, won't just give up and go home if legalisation of one substance was brought in, people are inventing new highs at a rapid rate and there will always be the element who wish to experiment or take things further.
As I said earlier "if people don't make a song and dance out of their drug taking, they probably won't have many problems", but some do, and that is what lead the action in this report.
If everything was legal or illegal, we would still never reach agreement and neither would a good many others. Everyone has their own viewpoint but if you really want to make a difference, you need to Lobby in the right places, the relentless daily pressure group tactics that some practice on here, do nothing but create antagonism.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?[/p][/quote]No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy. You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened. It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others. If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre. Still getting in Capper's place are you?[/p][/quote]Yes he's very accomodating to the "senior members of his faculty" is our Mick. And you can feel safe in the knowledge that the CCTV is always working and the footage will be monitored. “I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ . . .” Irvine Welsh Your suggestion that I support crime and anarchy make no sense when I am arguing for control and regulation to take the trade out of the hands of criminals.[/p][/quote]You support crime and anarchy by trading with criminals and supporting certain ant-establishment movements. Yes things for you might be different if certain substances were legalised....But they haven't been.....Yet! CCCTV doesn't make a lot of things safer, you have seen the poor results on lots of systems yourself, it has had some successes, but lots of failures. I was in a bank in the centre of Bradford a while ago, a guy came in and stole some money! They told me that I might have to be a witness and that everything was on CCCTV, I never heard any more and the pictures could have been anyone, you still have to know who it was doing the wrongdoing. ALP is always keen on mentioning Amsterdam. But the (semi) legal cannabis in coffee houses there is still supplied by criminals. Also we get people going on about the comparison of alcohol and cannabis but alcohol has been part of society here from before the first recording of history. It's fair enough if people are against it, but if you are, I don't see how two (legal) wrongs make a right.[/p][/quote]That's because they arn't legal issues they are health issues. The legal issues revolve around the supply chain and can easily be resolved by licensing production. In the Ervine Welsh quote the substance abuse starts long before it becomes a matter that the police would have any interested in. The problem with substance abuse is one that lies within the user regardless of legality but the law may actually deter people who's usage is getting out of hand from seeking the help they need.[/p][/quote]Quite, there is certainly a question of motivation. And I would support better facilities for people who wish to reclaim their former selves. The criminal fraternity who have made money out of drug supply, won't just give up and go home if legalisation of one substance was brought in, people are inventing new highs at a rapid rate and there will always be the element who wish to experiment or take things further. As I said earlier "if people don't make a song and dance out of their drug taking, they probably won't have many problems", but some do, and that is what lead the action in this report. If everything was legal or illegal, we would still never reach agreement and neither would a good many others. Everyone has their own viewpoint but if you really want to make a difference, you need to Lobby in the right places, the relentless daily pressure group tactics that some practice on here, do nothing but create antagonism. Albion.
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5:51pm Thu 6 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

As regular readers of the comments section will be aware it is rare that we are able to comment on the stories where they tell us a couple of plants is a factory or that the person growing them to supply their personal needs is a worse criminal for trying to keep his money out of the hands of criminal gangs than he would have been by going to them. There is a logic to the continued policy of prohibition but it is a twisted perverse logic that has nothing whatsoever with health or reducing societal harm. There is not and has never been a war on drugs it has only ever been a war on drug users. It is a prejudice and should be frowned on in much the same way as racism, homophobia or the stigmatization of mental health. The only weapon I have to try and end the attack is freedom of speech and the hope that public opinion may change.
I make no apologies for using the T&A's comment section as a platform to reach a wider audience. I get nothing from doing this other than the satisfaction of believing I'm doing the right thing. Hopefully soon progress will be made.
As regular readers of the comments section will be aware it is rare that we are able to comment on the stories where they tell us a couple of plants is a factory or that the person growing them to supply their personal needs is a worse criminal for trying to keep his money out of the hands of criminal gangs than he would have been by going to them. There is a logic to the continued policy of prohibition but it is a twisted perverse logic that has nothing whatsoever with health or reducing societal harm. There is not and has never been a war on drugs it has only ever been a war on drug users. It is a prejudice and should be frowned on in much the same way as racism, homophobia or the stigmatization of mental health. The only weapon I have to try and end the attack is freedom of speech and the hope that public opinion may change. I make no apologies for using the T&A's comment section as a platform to reach a wider audience. I get nothing from doing this other than the satisfaction of believing I'm doing the right thing. Hopefully soon progress will be made. RollandSmoke
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11:10pm Thu 6 Dec 12

i hate bradford says...

Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?
No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy.
You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened.
It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others.
If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre.
Still getting in Capper's place are you?
Pray tell Albion how on earth do you know of the lovely Mr Capper?

Very telling I have got to say.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: If anyone believes this is a good way for police to be spending their time and the supposedly limited resources please comment with something a bit better thought out than the usual you smoke weed therefore you must be a bit thick comments. Albion, I know you can do better, is it that you are perfectly aware that the argument for prohibition has been lost?[/p][/quote]No, It's that I'm perfectly aware that you and others support crime and anarchy. You haven't the sense you were born with, If the people who have been the cause of this action in the report, were discrete and went about their business in an orderly fashion, this wouldn't have happened. It's the same on here, this isn't a place for you and certain others to promote your agenda, it is a place to comment on reports and the opinions of others. If people want to moan about the legalising of selected drugs or moan about the government (when they know perfectly well that Ed(s) Balls and the cartoonesque Miliband would be far worse) they should do so on appropriate forums and threads. It's not so much you as your adopted hombre. Still getting in Capper's place are you?[/p][/quote]Pray tell Albion how on earth do you know of the lovely Mr Capper? Very telling I have got to say. i hate bradford
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12:05pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

"Thieves are leaving taxpayers with a £250,000 annual bill because of the sheer volume of Yorkshire stone and metal they keep stealing from Bradford landmarks and roads."


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STOP WASTING TIME ON CANNABIS AND CATCH THE REAL CRIMINALS !!!
"Thieves are leaving taxpayers with a £250,000 annual bill because of the sheer volume of Yorkshire stone and metal they keep stealing from Bradford landmarks and roads." http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10097975.Brazen_t heft_of_metal_and_st one_costs_taxpayers_ __250_000_a_year/ STOP WASTING TIME ON CANNABIS AND CATCH THE REAL CRIMINALS !!! Another Landless Peasant
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