Row brews over delay to parking curbs at Grove House Primary School in Bradford

Councillor Howard Middleton outside Grove House Primary School

Councillor Howard Middleton outside Grove House Primary School

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

A Bradford councillor has criticised the authority’s procedures for dragging out the implementation of parking restrictions at a Bradford primary school.

Councillor Howard Middleton (Lib Dem, Bolton and Undercliffe) says Bradford Council has shown “no urgency” on implementing a single yellow line in Myers Lane to ease congestion outside Grove House Primary School, in Swain House, Bradford, during school hours.

Coun Middleton said the Bradford East Area Committee agreed funding two years ago and a consultation with residents was completed by this August.

He said following one objection the matter had to go back to the area committee and he expected it on the October agenda. But he said: “It didn’t go in October because we were told the meeting wasn’t going to happen. The chairman cancelled it on the grounds of no business, which was a surprise because we knew this was waiting and other things were waiting. Then we were told it couldn’t go to the November agenda because there was too many things on the agenda.”

Coun Middleton said the next meeting it could go to was in January, which he believes could mean the restrictions are not put in place until the spring half term.

He said: “It’s extremely frustrating for councillors and residents as well as the police and the Council who are have to spend a lot of time and resources.

“They are having to go up there all the time to try and manage the situation.”

Coun Middleton added: “The chairman doesn’t seem to have any urgency.”

Area committee chairman Councillor Mohammed Shafiq (Lab, Bradford Moor) said the report had not been brought to him before the October meeting was cancelled and if Coun Middleton had raised the issue with him he would have found the time to discuss at November’s meeting, which was held last Thursday.

He said: “What I would say to Coun Middleton is he’s right to raise his concerns that this item wasn’t heard at this meeting but equally, Coun Middleton could have contacted myself ensuring that the item was brought to the meeting last Thursday.”

Inspector Pete Tuff, of the Eccleshill Neighbourhood Policing Team, said: “We are asking for drivers’ co-operation in helping to provide a safer environment.

“Parents can do this by parking some distance away from the school entrances and walking the short distance to the school gates. I would also ask parents to consider leaving the car at home.”

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9:48am Sun 25 Nov 12

Joedavid says...

I do not drive passed this school but do others in Dudley Hill Road and Wrose Road and both are nightmares passing with parents cars at opening and closing times, they park on both sides of road and pull out with no regard for other road users.
One day something very serious is going to happen.
I do not drive passed this school but do others in Dudley Hill Road and Wrose Road and both are nightmares passing with parents cars at opening and closing times, they park on both sides of road and pull out with no regard for other road users. One day something very serious is going to happen. Joedavid
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9:51am Sun 25 Nov 12

kully says...

Political drama at each and every opportunity. Why can, t they work together for the benefit of children attending the school. I note chair of the committee is labour and ward councillor is from liberal. In my view given the urgency shown by councillor Howard, he has over looked and not bothered to talk to thechair of thecommitte whose remarks are positive. Move on from here and find a way to deal with this matter and stop
playing politics with our children.
Political drama at each and every opportunity. Why can, t they work together for the benefit of children attending the school. I note chair of the committee is labour and ward councillor is from liberal. In my view given the urgency shown by councillor Howard, he has over looked and not bothered to talk to thechair of thecommitte whose remarks are positive. Move on from here and find a way to deal with this matter and stop playing politics with our children. kully
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9:52am Sun 25 Nov 12

kully says...

Political drama at each and every opportunity. Why can, t they work together for the benefit of children attending the school. I note chair of the committee is labour and ward councillor is from liberal. In my view given the urgency shown by councillor Howard, he has over looked and not bothered to talk to thechair of thecommitte whose remarks are positive. Move on from here and find a way to deal with this matter and stop
playing politics with our children.
Political drama at each and every opportunity. Why can, t they work together for the benefit of children attending the school. I note chair of the committee is labour and ward councillor is from liberal. In my view given the urgency shown by councillor Howard, he has over looked and not bothered to talk to thechair of thecommitte whose remarks are positive. Move on from here and find a way to deal with this matter and stop playing politics with our children. kully
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9:59am Sun 25 Nov 12

mad matt says...

Ha - GOOD LUCK! It took us 7 years and a lot of help from Marsha Singh before the council would do anything to help with the traffic and parking problems where I live - now it is almost never policed, so we are nearly back to square one.
Ha - GOOD LUCK! It took us 7 years and a lot of help from Marsha Singh before the council would do anything to help with the traffic and parking problems where I live - now it is almost never policed, so we are nearly back to square one. mad matt
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10:05am Sun 25 Nov 12

carinthia says...

Even with the restrictions in place it makes no difference as parents ignore the lines unless there is a Civil enforcement officer on site.
Grove House primary school on Myers lane at kicking out time is horrendous with parents parking all along the yellow zig zag school road markings so a single yellow line will do nothing.
Its a case of i'm alright jack ,no consideration for others.
Even with the restrictions in place it makes no difference as parents ignore the lines unless there is a Civil enforcement officer on site. Grove House primary school on Myers lane at kicking out time is horrendous with parents parking all along the yellow zig zag school road markings so a single yellow line will do nothing. Its a case of i'm alright jack ,no consideration for others. carinthia
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10:21am Sun 25 Nov 12

cathi1 says...

My children went to Grove House. If I took the car to pick them up I parked a few streets away and walked the rest of they way. The parents that are causing the problems double park, park on the pavement and down the residents driveways. Most of the time they dont even bother to get out of their cars. I've had a number of arguements with these parents when theyve nearly run a child over or blocked the path. They dont care so a single yellow line wont help. When on a rare time a police officer has been there all they do is ask the driver if they would mind moving the car. If they just handed out fines people might get the message.
My children went to Grove House. If I took the car to pick them up I parked a few streets away and walked the rest of they way. The parents that are causing the problems double park, park on the pavement and down the residents driveways. Most of the time they dont even bother to get out of their cars. I've had a number of arguements with these parents when theyve nearly run a child over or blocked the path. They dont care so a single yellow line wont help. When on a rare time a police officer has been there all they do is ask the driver if they would mind moving the car. If they just handed out fines people might get the message. cathi1
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10:31am Sun 25 Nov 12

Walruss says...

It's disgraceful how mums have such disregard for other road users etc.

At my local primary school there is so little room to park that they resort to using my local pub's car park.

They then feel obliged to patronise the pub and bring their noisy and restless offspring into the pub.
It's disgraceful how mums have such disregard for other road users etc. At my local primary school there is so little room to park that they resort to using my local pub's car park. They then feel obliged to patronise the pub and bring their noisy and restless offspring into the pub. Walruss
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10:51am Sun 25 Nov 12

Albion. says...

Walruss wrote:
It's disgraceful how mums have such disregard for other road users etc.

At my local primary school there is so little room to park that they resort to using my local pub's car park.

They then feel obliged to patronise the pub and bring their noisy and restless offspring into the pub.
Haha! They'll use it as overspill classrooms next! 2+2= ?.....hic...
[quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote: It's disgraceful how mums have such disregard for other road users etc. At my local primary school there is so little room to park that they resort to using my local pub's car park. They then feel obliged to patronise the pub and bring their noisy and restless offspring into the pub.[/p][/quote]Haha! They'll use it as overspill classrooms next! 2+2= ?.....hic... Albion.
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11:01am Sun 25 Nov 12

loftyme says...

in the 70's, I went to a local middle school, and the council provided buses that picked up all the kids who were more than 1 mile away, they toured the local estates and streets stopping at normal bus stops,I presume all the middle schools did, no parking problems ever!,
What is the cost if broken down to Police/council parking enforcement/caretake
r/ and anyone else preventing the bad parking practices of parents?, plus the loss of life/serious injuries that occurs, bring back funded buses to the primary schools for all, if not, there will NEVER be a solution to this problem, because some parents dont care and will always park anywhere to collect their kids.
in the 70's, I went to a local middle school, and the council provided buses that picked up all the kids who were more than 1 mile away, they toured the local estates and streets stopping at normal bus stops,I presume all the middle schools did, no parking problems ever!, What is the cost if broken down to Police/council parking enforcement/caretake r/ and anyone else preventing the bad parking practices of parents?, plus the loss of life/serious injuries that occurs, bring back funded buses to the primary schools for all, if not, there will NEVER be a solution to this problem, because some parents dont care and will always park anywhere to collect their kids. loftyme
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11:21am Sun 25 Nov 12

The Hoffster says...

Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this.

Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?
Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this. Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ? The Hoffster
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11:44am Sun 25 Nov 12

thatsnotmyname says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this.

Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?
What this depends on is if your child gets into your local school or the next one 2 miles away...which is increasingly happening.

Also a lot of the asian community do not let there children (sorry girls) walk to school.

As some have pointed out, even with a single, double or zig zag line along with signs and posters outside schools some parents simply do not give a toss.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this. Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?[/p][/quote]What this depends on is if your child gets into your local school or the next one 2 miles away...which is increasingly happening. Also a lot of the asian community do not let there children (sorry girls) walk to school. As some have pointed out, even with a single, double or zig zag line along with signs and posters outside schools some parents simply do not give a toss. thatsnotmyname
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11:45am Sun 25 Nov 12

fantam says...

It's not Grove House but parents picking Hanson pupils up. What's the problem, it only lasts for 10 minutes,morning and afternoon
It's not Grove House but parents picking Hanson pupils up. What's the problem, it only lasts for 10 minutes,morning and afternoon fantam
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1:27pm Sun 25 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Did the T&A photographer work on the Hammer House films? He never fails to make the people in the photograph look like a sinister character that you would warn your kids to stay well away from.
Did the T&A photographer work on the Hammer House films? He never fails to make the people in the photograph look like a sinister character that you would warn your kids to stay well away from. RollandSmoke
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4:54pm Sun 25 Nov 12

webess says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this.

Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?
Well there's a paedo lurking at every corner these days, it must be true I read it in the Daily Mail.
Being ferried in mummy's 4x4 is quite a sensible alternative to a 5 minute walk.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this. Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?[/p][/quote]Well there's a paedo lurking at every corner these days, it must be true I read it in the Daily Mail. Being ferried in mummy's 4x4 is quite a sensible alternative to a 5 minute walk. webess
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5:12pm Sun 25 Nov 12

jojo1727 says...

same with the parking at the upper school i have the joy of trying to pass. rhodesway or dixons academy as it seems to be known is terrible and they are now intending to open a primary school! wheres the sense in that ??
if the emergency services needed to pass they wouldn't stand a chance funny how they have some kind of officer on the gates in the morning but no sign at pick up times. you'd think the council would jump at the chance to earn a bit of cash from parking fines ?
same with the parking at the upper school i have the joy of trying to pass. rhodesway or dixons academy as it seems to be known is terrible and they are now intending to open a primary school! wheres the sense in that ?? if the emergency services needed to pass they wouldn't stand a chance funny how they have some kind of officer on the gates in the morning but no sign at pick up times. you'd think the council would jump at the chance to earn a bit of cash from parking fines ? jojo1727
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5:12pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Albion. says...

webess wrote:
The Hoffster wrote:
Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this.

Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?
Well there's a paedo lurking at every corner these days, it must be true I read it in the Daily Mail.
Being ferried in mummy's 4x4 is quite a sensible alternative to a 5 minute walk.
Paedophilia was actually at it's worst during and immediately after world war two (in this country), Obviously any level is a level too high.
Modern mass information technology can distort so many things.
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: Yep; as someone mentioned, going back in time (about 25 years ago according to my good self), we had nothing like this. Everyone walked or took the buses. How hard can it be ?[/p][/quote]Well there's a paedo lurking at every corner these days, it must be true I read it in the Daily Mail. Being ferried in mummy's 4x4 is quite a sensible alternative to a 5 minute walk.[/p][/quote]Paedophilia was actually at it's worst during and immediately after world war two (in this country), Obviously any level is a level too high. Modern mass information technology can distort so many things. Albion.
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5:19pm Sun 25 Nov 12

webess says...

jojo1727 wrote:
same with the parking at the upper school i have the joy of trying to pass. rhodesway or dixons academy as it seems to be known is terrible and they are now intending to open a primary school! wheres the sense in that ??
if the emergency services needed to pass they wouldn't stand a chance funny how they have some kind of officer on the gates in the morning but no sign at pick up times. you'd think the council would jump at the chance to earn a bit of cash from parking fines ?
Council parking attendants tend to be deployed in a manner that brings in the cash without confronting drivers.
The issue of obstructing roads is irrelevant and the risk of confronting drivers too high, hence you rarely see parking tickets issued on the school run.
[quote][p][bold]jojo1727[/bold] wrote: same with the parking at the upper school i have the joy of trying to pass. rhodesway or dixons academy as it seems to be known is terrible and they are now intending to open a primary school! wheres the sense in that ?? if the emergency services needed to pass they wouldn't stand a chance funny how they have some kind of officer on the gates in the morning but no sign at pick up times. you'd think the council would jump at the chance to earn a bit of cash from parking fines ?[/p][/quote]Council parking attendants tend to be deployed in a manner that brings in the cash without confronting drivers. The issue of obstructing roads is irrelevant and the risk of confronting drivers too high, hence you rarely see parking tickets issued on the school run. webess
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10:31am Mon 26 Nov 12

Storck says...

It is not just Myers Lane that they block.

The part on both sides of the road down Grove House Road making it extremely dangerous going either way. They also block all the driveways and the junction Grove House Crescent.

It might be eased if all the schools did not end at the same time. As St.Francis further up Myers Lane seems to finish at the same time and the parking there is just as bad.
It is not just Myers Lane that they block. The part on both sides of the road down Grove House Road making it extremely dangerous going either way. They also block all the driveways and the junction Grove House Crescent. It might be eased if all the schools did not end at the same time. As St.Francis further up Myers Lane seems to finish at the same time and the parking there is just as bad. Storck
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