Traders are playing a two-year survival game in Bradford, meeting is told tonight

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Business owners in Bradford city centre are playing a “two-year survival game” as they wait for the Westfield development.

An open meeting for city centre businesses at the Midland Hotel tonight heard that firms are desperate for increased footfall.

Security, environmental issues, low quality shops, a lack of mainstream businesses, and apathy and the atmosphere in the city centre were also raised as prominent concerns by the 15 people who turned up to the Bradford Council-run event.

A need for more office-based businesses in the city centre to boost spending was also encouraged.

George Kudelnitzky, who runs Coffee Bianco and George Alexander Hairdressing in the city centre, said: “My colleagues in business in the city centre are desperate and are playing a two-year survival game between now and getting the Westfield shopping centre open.

“But the notion that Bradford is finished is rubbish.

“This is just the beginning for Bradford.

“We just need to see them start the Westfield centre. It does not even need to be built yet.

“To get the feelgood factor we just need to see the yellow jackets so we know it is being built.”

The meeting heard that the Bradford district is huge and vast and very wealthy, but all the spending goes to Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield.

It was also claimed that Bradford just needs one major player to move to the city and then others will follow suit.

Some businesses advocated early-evening opening, as well as trading to fit around Bradford Council events in the city centre.

Mr Kudelnitzky said: “We really need the mainstream fashion-based shops, such as H&M and Republic.”

A lack of eateries and big-name food chains was also bemoaned, with Pizza Express and Pret-A-Manger among firms touted.

Councillor Dave Green, leader of Bradford Council, said: “Things are moving in Bradford city centre.

“But the council can only do so much. We can encourage with events, we will bust a gut to get businesses into the city centre, but we need your help to get customers through the doors and loosening their purse strings.”

He added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

“It is the edge of the jigsaw. We need to put the picture in the middle.

“Businesses have survived the worst times in Bradford, now stay around for the good times.”

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12:09am Wed 21 Nov 12

rattusrattus says...

Build it and they will COME!
Build it and they will COME! rattusrattus
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12:22am Wed 21 Nov 12

Rambo says...

I like how they list of name of chain stores and eateries.

A sign of the times maybe, but its absolutely pathetic when people are having to almost beg large national chains to the white knight of the city.

You want a clone town like so many others? Fine. But the owner of a business like Coffee Bianco should be worried that big chains would steal what little custom they do have.

I've been in this business before. The general public are bye and large, stupid when it comes to selecting a big name over an unknown or independent.

One thing that made Bradford shopping great in its prime was the quality independent shops. Just bussing in a load of large, national chains with no interest in the area other than profits is akin to selling this city up the river.

I do think Broadway will sort itself out in a few years. Bradford will resemble a clone town with the same generic shops everywhere else.
I like how they list of name of chain stores and eateries. A sign of the times maybe, but its absolutely pathetic when people are having to almost beg large national chains to the white knight of the city. You want a clone town like so many others? Fine. But the owner of a business like Coffee Bianco should be worried that big chains would steal what little custom they do have. I've been in this business before. The general public are bye and large, stupid when it comes to selecting a big name over an unknown or independent. One thing that made Bradford shopping great in its prime was the quality independent shops. Just bussing in a load of large, national chains with no interest in the area other than profits is akin to selling this city up the river. I do think Broadway will sort itself out in a few years. Bradford will resemble a clone town with the same generic shops everywhere else. Rambo
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6:27am Wed 21 Nov 12

Albion. says...

Fifteen people turned up!
That says it all really.
Fifteen people turned up! That says it all really. Albion.
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6:57am Wed 21 Nov 12

idleone says...

Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.
Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems. No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago. idleone
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7:46am Wed 21 Nov 12

Joedavid says...

Would closing illegal markets/bazars help?
Would closing illegal markets/bazars help? Joedavid
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8:02am Wed 21 Nov 12

SinnerSaint says...

idleone wrote:
Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.
This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.

Pret A Manger? Hahaha!

Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get major retailers interested in coming to Westfield.

I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built
[quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems. No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.[/p][/quote]This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger? Hahaha! Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get major retailers interested in coming to Westfield. I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built SinnerSaint
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8:10am Wed 21 Nov 12

SinnerSaint says...

idleone wrote:
Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.
This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha!

Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius!

I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.
[quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems. No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.[/p][/quote]This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha! Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius! I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built. SinnerSaint
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8:55am Wed 21 Nov 12

angry bradfordian says...

Surely aiming at getting a Pizza Express shouldn't be that much to aspire to?
A quick look on their website suggests there are 7 in Leeds! If Wakefield and Halifax have both got one then surely Bradford could keep one running?
However, I don't understand how a new pizza restaurant is going to improve the trade of a hairdressers- who goes for a pizza and then suddenly realises they need a quick trim?
Surely aiming at getting a Pizza Express shouldn't be that much to aspire to? A quick look on their website suggests there are 7 in Leeds! If Wakefield and Halifax have both got one then surely Bradford could keep one running? However, I don't understand how a new pizza restaurant is going to improve the trade of a hairdressers- who goes for a pizza and then suddenly realises they need a quick trim? angry bradfordian
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9:28am Wed 21 Nov 12

Z.Raja says...

Councillor Dave Green, leader of Bradford Council, said“Businesses have survived the worst times in Bradford, now stay around for the good times.”...is totally baseless. Have the Bradford council closed the illegally trading stall type retail market TRADEX? If the answer is no, then there is a lot more worse to come for Bradford Businesses.
Councillor Dave Green, leader of Bradford Council, said“Businesses have survived the worst times in Bradford, now stay around for the good times.”...is totally baseless. Have the Bradford council closed the illegally trading stall type retail market TRADEX? If the answer is no, then there is a lot more worse to come for Bradford Businesses. Z.Raja
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9:44am Wed 21 Nov 12

Avro says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
idleone wrote:
Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.
This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha!

Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius!

I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.
Spot on!

Westfield have spent more than 10 years trying to attract enough tenants for the build to get under way, where Westfield have now admiteed defeat in having sold the site to Meyer Bergman!
Nothing has changed but the name, and if Westfield could not crack this nut in over 10 years, then why should Bergman fair any better?

So lets wind this forward, Bergman have reported a start in the second half of 2013, which must go ahead if the build is to be completed by the end of 2015 for the scheme to qualify for the £17.6m Regional Growth Fund money, but the build can only proceed once Bergman have enough pre-lets to make it viable.
Basically the pressure to secure tenants is now greater than it ever was before, because there is now a deadline to meet.

So lets see what mid 2013 brings, because the clock is most certainly counting down!
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems. No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.[/p][/quote]This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha! Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius! I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.[/p][/quote]Spot on! Westfield have spent more than 10 years trying to attract enough tenants for the build to get under way, where Westfield have now admiteed defeat in having sold the site to Meyer Bergman! Nothing has changed but the name, and if Westfield could not crack this nut in over 10 years, then why should Bergman fair any better? So lets wind this forward, Bergman have reported a start in the second half of 2013, which must go ahead if the build is to be completed by the end of 2015 for the scheme to qualify for the £17.6m Regional Growth Fund money, but the build can only proceed once Bergman have enough pre-lets to make it viable. Basically the pressure to secure tenants is now greater than it ever was before, because there is now a deadline to meet. So lets see what mid 2013 brings, because the clock is most certainly counting down! Avro
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10:14am Wed 21 Nov 12

Joedavid says...

The New Victoria/Odeon got more chance of completion than Westfield, give the £17.6m to that Project.
The New Victoria/Odeon got more chance of completion than Westfield, give the £17.6m to that Project. Joedavid
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11:15am Wed 21 Nov 12

Avro says...

The money is ringfenced as a rate relief scheme for Westfield tenants.
Its not a simple case of handing it to the Odeon instead, and where currently there is no plan for the Odeon let alone any urgency to take ownership of what could turn out to be a white elephant.
The money is ringfenced as a rate relief scheme for Westfield tenants. Its not a simple case of handing it to the Odeon instead, and where currently there is no plan for the Odeon let alone any urgency to take ownership of what could turn out to be a white elephant. Avro
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11:34am Wed 21 Nov 12

Albion. says...

Avro wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
idleone wrote:
Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.
This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha!

Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius!

I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.
Spot on!

Westfield have spent more than 10 years trying to attract enough tenants for the build to get under way, where Westfield have now admiteed defeat in having sold the site to Meyer Bergman!
Nothing has changed but the name, and if Westfield could not crack this nut in over 10 years, then why should Bergman fair any better?

So lets wind this forward, Bergman have reported a start in the second half of 2013, which must go ahead if the build is to be completed by the end of 2015 for the scheme to qualify for the £17.6m Regional Growth Fund money, but the build can only proceed once Bergman have enough pre-lets to make it viable.
Basically the pressure to secure tenants is now greater than it ever was before, because there is now a deadline to meet.

So lets see what mid 2013 brings, because the clock is most certainly counting down!
And who is building the centre?
Who is responsible for recruiting tenants and running the centre on completion?
Erm, Westfield!
The only difference is that they have reduced their financial risk.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems. No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.[/p][/quote]This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha! Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius! I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.[/p][/quote]Spot on! Westfield have spent more than 10 years trying to attract enough tenants for the build to get under way, where Westfield have now admiteed defeat in having sold the site to Meyer Bergman! Nothing has changed but the name, and if Westfield could not crack this nut in over 10 years, then why should Bergman fair any better? So lets wind this forward, Bergman have reported a start in the second half of 2013, which must go ahead if the build is to be completed by the end of 2015 for the scheme to qualify for the £17.6m Regional Growth Fund money, but the build can only proceed once Bergman have enough pre-lets to make it viable. Basically the pressure to secure tenants is now greater than it ever was before, because there is now a deadline to meet. So lets see what mid 2013 brings, because the clock is most certainly counting down![/p][/quote]And who is building the centre? Who is responsible for recruiting tenants and running the centre on completion? Erm, Westfield! The only difference is that they have reduced their financial risk. Albion.
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11:48am Wed 21 Nov 12

SinnerSaint says...

Albion. wrote:
Avro wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
idleone wrote:
Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems.

No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.
This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha!

Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius!

I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.
Spot on!

Westfield have spent more than 10 years trying to attract enough tenants for the build to get under way, where Westfield have now admiteed defeat in having sold the site to Meyer Bergman!
Nothing has changed but the name, and if Westfield could not crack this nut in over 10 years, then why should Bergman fair any better?

So lets wind this forward, Bergman have reported a start in the second half of 2013, which must go ahead if the build is to be completed by the end of 2015 for the scheme to qualify for the £17.6m Regional Growth Fund money, but the build can only proceed once Bergman have enough pre-lets to make it viable.
Basically the pressure to secure tenants is now greater than it ever was before, because there is now a deadline to meet.

So lets see what mid 2013 brings, because the clock is most certainly counting down!
And who is building the centre?
Who is responsible for recruiting tenants and running the centre on completion?
Erm, Westfield!
The only difference is that they have reduced their financial risk.
Exactly! It's a move of incredible business dexterity.

They have several large shopping centres in the US, Australia, New Zealand as well as the UK. They have relationships with all the major retailers as well as the high end designers. Yet they tried and tried but in the end offloaded the financial risk to someone else, taking on the management of the centre instead.

It would be interesting to know the financials in terms of their costs to date and what they recovered on the sale. My money is on there being quite a deficit.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dave Green added: “When Westfield is built, it will not be the answer to all Bradford’s problems. No, the problem the will be the fact al the decent people wil have left Bradford or started shopping elsewhere. Will Eastern Europeans and asylum seekers care about Pret a manger or H&M ...... Get real, the council crucified Bradford when it compulsory purchased dozens of LOCAL traders and put them out if business 8 years ago.[/p][/quote]This would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Pret A Manger - Bradford's saviour? Hahaha! Yesterday's visit to London was a desperate attempt to get retailers interested in coming to Westfield. Do you not think that Westfield already went through an exercise to attract major retailers and drew a blank (even with enticements and sweeteners) which is why building didn't start and they were frantically trying to offload the site behind the scenes? Luckily for them, they found some Aussies dumb enough to believe it could prosper, to take it off their hands while they get paid to manage it - genius! I wouldn't pin all your hopes on Westfield being a golden goose... I still have doubts that it'll even get built.[/p][/quote]Spot on! Westfield have spent more than 10 years trying to attract enough tenants for the build to get under way, where Westfield have now admiteed defeat in having sold the site to Meyer Bergman! Nothing has changed but the name, and if Westfield could not crack this nut in over 10 years, then why should Bergman fair any better? So lets wind this forward, Bergman have reported a start in the second half of 2013, which must go ahead if the build is to be completed by the end of 2015 for the scheme to qualify for the £17.6m Regional Growth Fund money, but the build can only proceed once Bergman have enough pre-lets to make it viable. Basically the pressure to secure tenants is now greater than it ever was before, because there is now a deadline to meet. So lets see what mid 2013 brings, because the clock is most certainly counting down![/p][/quote]And who is building the centre? Who is responsible for recruiting tenants and running the centre on completion? Erm, Westfield! The only difference is that they have reduced their financial risk.[/p][/quote]Exactly! It's a move of incredible business dexterity. They have several large shopping centres in the US, Australia, New Zealand as well as the UK. They have relationships with all the major retailers as well as the high end designers. Yet they tried and tried but in the end offloaded the financial risk to someone else, taking on the management of the centre instead. It would be interesting to know the financials in terms of their costs to date and what they recovered on the sale. My money is on there being quite a deficit. SinnerSaint
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11:49am Wed 21 Nov 12

chris & pauline says...

just fill in the hole in broadway and turn it into a car park,i live in halifax and i need some where to park my car so i can catch a bus to leeds to to do all my shopping :@)
just fill in the hole in broadway and turn it into a car park,i live in halifax and i need some where to park my car so i can catch a bus to leeds to to do all my shopping :@) chris & pauline
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11:55am Wed 21 Nov 12

SinnerSaint says...

It's even cleverer than I thought as Meyer Bergman are buying the completed project. Westfield should make a profit on the real estate development as well as the management contract.

Hat's off, now go and sell some sand to the Arabs!!
It's even cleverer than I thought as Meyer Bergman are buying the completed project. Westfield should make a profit on the real estate development as well as the management contract. Hat's off, now go and sell some sand to the Arabs!! SinnerSaint
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12:16pm Wed 21 Nov 12

thruth9211 says...

The answer is to sell cheap boooze, to bring in the foot fall, the government is doing a good job, the young steal and bring the cops in and then bradford gets a bad name
The answer is to sell cheap boooze, to bring in the foot fall, the government is doing a good job, the young steal and bring the cops in and then bradford gets a bad name thruth9211
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12:31pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Joedavid says...

Avro wrote:
The money is ringfenced as a rate relief scheme for Westfield tenants.
Its not a simple case of handing it to the Odeon instead, and where currently there is no plan for the Odeon let alone any urgency to take ownership of what could turn out to be a white elephant.
Yes there are plans for the Odeon restoration back to the New Victoria auditorium that have recently been reported in the T&A, see Odeon link at top of T&A web page.
Also see www.bradfordone.com
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: The money is ringfenced as a rate relief scheme for Westfield tenants. Its not a simple case of handing it to the Odeon instead, and where currently there is no plan for the Odeon let alone any urgency to take ownership of what could turn out to be a white elephant.[/p][/quote]Yes there are plans for the Odeon restoration back to the New Victoria auditorium that have recently been reported in the T&A, see Odeon link at top of T&A web page. Also see www.bradfordone.com Joedavid
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12:36pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Joedavid says...

Also this restoration of the New Victoria/Odeon will bring people into the City Centre and they will use shops and restaurant etc and help those who are the subject of this article.
Also this restoration of the New Victoria/Odeon will bring people into the City Centre and they will use shops and restaurant etc and help those who are the subject of this article. Joedavid
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2:47pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Avro says...

The fact is that developers are not coming forward to make anything happen, other than dreams of what people would like to happen, and even the Council appear hesitant to take ownership for £1
The fact is that developers are not coming forward to make anything happen, other than dreams of what people would like to happen, and even the Council appear hesitant to take ownership for £1 Avro
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5:41pm Wed 21 Nov 12

thruth9211 says...

T and A didnt like the truth and took my commet off
T and A didnt like the truth and took my commet off thruth9211
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5:42pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Albion. says...

thruth9211 wrote:
T and A didnt like the truth and took my commet off
They probably couldn't understand it.
[quote][p][bold]thruth9211[/bold] wrote: T and A didnt like the truth and took my commet off[/p][/quote]They probably couldn't understand it. Albion.
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6:56pm Wed 21 Nov 12

SinnerSaint says...

Albion. wrote:
thruth9211 wrote:
T and A didnt like the truth and took my commet off
They probably couldn't understand it.
Hahaha!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thruth9211[/bold] wrote: T and A didnt like the truth and took my commet off[/p][/quote]They probably couldn't understand it.[/p][/quote]Hahaha! SinnerSaint
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9:21am Thu 22 Nov 12

MontyLeMar says...

chris & pauline wrote:
just fill in the hole in broadway and turn it into a car park,i live in halifax and i need some where to park my car so i can catch a bus to leeds to to do all my shopping :@)
Agree with the sentiment but I'd rather have a new railway station with fast links to Leeds and Manchester. Could also provide many parking spaces as well though.
[quote][p][bold]chris & pauline[/bold] wrote: just fill in the hole in broadway and turn it into a car park,i live in halifax and i need some where to park my car so i can catch a bus to leeds to to do all my shopping :@)[/p][/quote]Agree with the sentiment but I'd rather have a new railway station with fast links to Leeds and Manchester. Could also provide many parking spaces as well though. MontyLeMar
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