250 new jobs as loans giant Provident Financial expands

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Provident chief executive Peter Crook Provident chief executive Peter Crook

Another 250 jobs are to be created in Bradford city centre by moneylending firm Provident Financial Group which is enjoying faster than expected growth at its Vanquis Bank credit card and savings subsidiary.

The growth will mean that Provident, will need to expand outside its new headquarters in Thornton Road and take its city centre-based workforce to more than 1,000.

Chief executive Peter Crook said options could include taking space in part of the former Sunwin House and T J Hughes department store building, which backs on to Provident’s Southgate base, or in the adjacent Thomas Cook building in Aldermanbury, which is due to close early next year as the troubled travel giant cuts its overheads. The former police headquarters or a successor building in The Tyrls could also be considered.

Provident, which moved into its new offices in September 2010, is already running out of space for staff at Vanquis Bank which occupies the second floor. The company is about halfway through recruiting 250 call centre staff and has space for about 100 more people.

But the rapid growth of the Vanquis Bank – which is on track to have more than one million customers and balances of more than £1 billion – means it will be looking for a further 250 people and Mr Crook wants to locate them in Bradford.

He said: “When we moved our head office into the Southgate building we had planned in some spare capacity where we put the Vanquis Bank call centre as the operations centre in Chatham, Kent, was full.

“We’re creating 250 jobs in the city centre but as Vanquis Bank continues to grow ahead of plan we will be looking to add a similar number and we’d like to base the extra 250 staff in Bradford as well, which will be good news for the city.

“By reorganising the existing office space we could squeeze some more Vanquis Bank staff in over and above the 100 new starters for whom we already have desks but we will definitely need extra space.

“I’m pleased that we will be creating more jobs in Bradford city centre, which is about 15,000 jobs short of what it should have.”

Mr Crook, who sits on the Bradford City Centre Development Group, said no formal discussions had yet taken place, but the annex of the former T J Hughes building might be suitable for Provident’s needs and is next door to its existing offices. He also said the soon-to-be-vacated Thomas Cook base was a possibility.

“We can probably manage for about another year but we’ll definitely need extra space, ideally in a nearby building and will be exploring the possibilities. We want to bring these jobs to Bradford where we have successfully recruited and trained our Vanquis Bank call centre workforce,” he said.

Sandy Needham, chief executive of Bradford Chamber of Commerce, welcomed Provident's expansion plans.

She said: “It’s great news for Bradford. Things have worked out well for Provident since its move into Thornton Road and it has been able to recruit and train suitable staff for the Vanquis Bank business. I’m delighted that the company is able to create so many more vacancies and is now looking to take on more staff.”

Bradford Council leader, Councillor David Green, said: “We are delighted that yet more employment in Bradford city centre is being offered, and we intend to work with Provident to help ensure they can manage their expansion as quickly as is possible, whichever of the options they decide on.

“It is more jobs coming into the city centre which will help increase footfall and continue to build on the work that has been going on for the last couple of years.”

He added that the Council would continue to work with partners in the private sector to “continue the trend of increasing employment”.

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7:16am Tue 6 Nov 12

idleone says...

This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.
This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of. idleone
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7:25am Tue 6 Nov 12

tinytoonster says...

idleone wrote:
This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.
correct.
rather poignant name. CROOK!
lets pray on the misery of others.
just putting people in debt in more trouble.
no doubt vincent cable's description will be dismissed by the anti government LABOUR gang on here!
[quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.[/p][/quote]correct. rather poignant name. CROOK! lets pray on the misery of others. just putting people in debt in more trouble. no doubt vincent cable's description will be dismissed by the anti government LABOUR gang on here! tinytoonster
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7:27am Tue 6 Nov 12

tinytoonster says...

i like the believe in the magic of christmas advert in the middle, because people who use this company wont!
i like the believe in the magic of christmas advert in the middle, because people who use this company wont! tinytoonster
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7:36am Tue 6 Nov 12

Save2020 says...

Did anybody watch the panorama programme on bbc1 not so long ago that had a reporter that went undercover in provident to find out how this horrible horrible company goes about its business?! They get people into debt and keep them in debt continuously! They claim its creating new jobs but really they are taking money that would be spent elsewhere in shops and on the high street instead though its all going those greedy vermin tw@ts back pockets.
Did anybody watch the panorama programme on bbc1 not so long ago that had a reporter that went undercover in provident to find out how this horrible horrible company goes about its business?! They get people into debt and keep them in debt continuously! They claim its creating new jobs but really they are taking money that would be spent elsewhere in shops and on the high street instead though its all going those greedy vermin tw@ts back pockets. Save2020
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7:48am Tue 6 Nov 12

Save2020 says...

Ps chief executive Peter 'CROOK' .......
You can't make it up!
Ps chief executive Peter 'CROOK' ....... You can't make it up! Save2020
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7:59am Tue 6 Nov 12

Apollo says...

The word is prey not pray. Prayer is what you need if you get into debt.
The word is prey not pray. Prayer is what you need if you get into debt. Apollo
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8:04am Tue 6 Nov 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

An extra 250 people to prey on the vunerable on the run up to Christmas, great news.
An extra 250 people to prey on the vunerable on the run up to Christmas, great news. Thee Voice of Reason
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8:36am Tue 6 Nov 12

webess says...

idleone wrote:
This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.
As you mention, the provies customer base is those turned down by the mainstream lenders - doesn't that give you a clue?
Also the Provy turn down the majority of loan applications, where do you think they turn to?
[quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.[/p][/quote]As you mention, the provies customer base is those turned down by the mainstream lenders - doesn't that give you a clue? Also the Provy turn down the majority of loan applications, where do you think they turn to? webess
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8:37am Tue 6 Nov 12

badford says...

Could build his debt divison on the westfield site
Could build his debt divison on the westfield site badford
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8:43am Tue 6 Nov 12

Mr Buss says...

Amazing, simply amazing! This is why Bradford is like a third world country because of comments from people like yourselves, narrow minded fools the lot of you. This firm gives out small unprotected loans to people who go looking for them because they need them. My mum had a similar loan with another Bradford loan company years ago and she paid off as much as she could each week, without any hassle from the collector (who I might add, and it highlighted in the programme, are not directly employed by Provident). These loans got us out of a lot of trouble during these dark days and if there wasn't a need for this service there wouldn't be any Providents or Shopachecks of this world. Get real people.
Amazing, simply amazing! This is why Bradford is like a third world country because of comments from people like yourselves, narrow minded fools the lot of you. This firm gives out small unprotected loans to people who go looking for them because they need them. My mum had a similar loan with another Bradford loan company years ago and she paid off as much as she could each week, without any hassle from the collector (who I might add, and it highlighted in the programme, are not directly employed by Provident). These loans got us out of a lot of trouble during these dark days and if there wasn't a need for this service there wouldn't be any Providents or Shopachecks of this world. Get real people. Mr Buss
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8:48am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

This isnt exactly up to date news. They have been recruiting for these roles for over a year now
This isnt exactly up to date news. They have been recruiting for these roles for over a year now Andy2010
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9:07am Tue 6 Nov 12

idleone says...

Having worked for over 20 years in the financial sector, the damage to society and the greater economy this ( and similar) companies are doing is destroying this country. Some minority customers may benefit, but how many of you know the tactics if someone defaults? The charges incurred and the external contractors employed to recover the debt? .... Think wider ...!
Having worked for over 20 years in the financial sector, the damage to society and the greater economy this ( and similar) companies are doing is destroying this country. Some minority customers may benefit, but how many of you know the tactics if someone defaults? The charges incurred and the external contractors employed to recover the debt? .... Think wider ...! idleone
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9:10am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

Mr Buss wrote:
Amazing, simply amazing! This is why Bradford is like a third world country because of comments from people like yourselves, narrow minded fools the lot of you. This firm gives out small unprotected loans to people who go looking for them because they need them. My mum had a similar loan with another Bradford loan company years ago and she paid off as much as she could each week, without any hassle from the collector (who I might add, and it highlighted in the programme, are not directly employed by Provident). These loans got us out of a lot of trouble during these dark days and if there wasn't a need for this service there wouldn't be any Providents or Shopachecks of this world. Get real people.
Well said

There is just no pleasing some people . End of the day its an extra 250 jobs to the town. Whats to dislike about that. Note a few of you think Provident are crooks or something but they are simply supplying a financial product. I too watched the Panorama program and their "doorstep" division acted within the OFT guidelines so whats the problem? Also as the story puts this is to expand the Vanquis card range which isnt doorstep lending at all its a credit card division. If Capital One or Barclaycard decided to open up a head office here in Bradford would that not technically be the same morale standing you all claim to have?.

Good luck to Provident as at least they are employing the local community and hopefully the bigger they get may then attract other financial services to the area which in turn brings jobs and then creates employees with disposable income therefore hopefully attracting shops and furtehr businesses to the area

Look at the bigger picture folks. Who cares what the business does moral or not , they dont force anyone to take out a high APR loan
[quote][p][bold]Mr Buss[/bold] wrote: Amazing, simply amazing! This is why Bradford is like a third world country because of comments from people like yourselves, narrow minded fools the lot of you. This firm gives out small unprotected loans to people who go looking for them because they need them. My mum had a similar loan with another Bradford loan company years ago and she paid off as much as she could each week, without any hassle from the collector (who I might add, and it highlighted in the programme, are not directly employed by Provident). These loans got us out of a lot of trouble during these dark days and if there wasn't a need for this service there wouldn't be any Providents or Shopachecks of this world. Get real people.[/p][/quote]Well said There is just no pleasing some people . End of the day its an extra 250 jobs to the town. Whats to dislike about that. Note a few of you think Provident are crooks or something but they are simply supplying a financial product. I too watched the Panorama program and their "doorstep" division acted within the OFT guidelines so whats the problem? Also as the story puts this is to expand the Vanquis card range which isnt doorstep lending at all its a credit card division. If Capital One or Barclaycard decided to open up a head office here in Bradford would that not technically be the same morale standing you all claim to have?. Good luck to Provident as at least they are employing the local community and hopefully the bigger they get may then attract other financial services to the area which in turn brings jobs and then creates employees with disposable income therefore hopefully attracting shops and furtehr businesses to the area Look at the bigger picture folks. Who cares what the business does moral or not , they dont force anyone to take out a high APR loan Andy2010
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9:20am Tue 6 Nov 12

idleone says...

Dear oh dear.... How shallow minded. First rule of sensible finance - don't get into debt!
Dear oh dear.... How shallow minded. First rule of sensible finance - don't get into debt! idleone
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9:24am Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Whenever there is decay the parasites move in hastening the death of the host
Whenever there is decay the parasites move in hastening the death of the host RollandSmoke
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9:46am Tue 6 Nov 12

Joedavid says...

Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct. Joedavid
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9:51am Tue 6 Nov 12

Apollo says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Whenever there is decay the parasites move in hastening the death of the host
Parasites do not kill hosts you are thinking about parasitoids.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: Whenever there is decay the parasites move in hastening the death of the host[/p][/quote]Parasites do not kill hosts you are thinking about parasitoids. Apollo
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9:58am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford. Andy2010
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10:21am Tue 6 Nov 12

bhuna156 says...

Great news for Bradford!
Great news for Bradford! bhuna156
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10:24am Tue 6 Nov 12

bhuna156 says...

T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life... bhuna156
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10:25am Tue 6 Nov 12

single says...

once again, the moan moan brigade are evident .dont they want development in our city? they never sugest alternatives just knock people trying.250 jobs brilliant .
once again, the moan moan brigade are evident .dont they want development in our city? they never sugest alternatives just knock people trying.250 jobs brilliant . single
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10:28am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

single wrote:
once again, the moan moan brigade are evident .dont they want development in our city? they never sugest alternatives just knock people trying.250 jobs brilliant .
Most of them woudl rather sit on their backsides claiming benefits and slagging off the government rather than making something of themselves and resenting anyone that does
[quote][p][bold]single[/bold] wrote: once again, the moan moan brigade are evident .dont they want development in our city? they never sugest alternatives just knock people trying.250 jobs brilliant .[/p][/quote]Most of them woudl rather sit on their backsides claiming benefits and slagging off the government rather than making something of themselves and resenting anyone that does Andy2010
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10:33am Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

bhuna156 wrote:
T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
[quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education... RollandSmoke
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10:38am Tue 6 Nov 12

ANY WHERE BUT HERE says...

(WILL THEY PAY A LIVING WAGE) For those that know somebody who has had one of these loans,they will understand that another 250 employed by them means misery for another 2000.
(WILL THEY PAY A LIVING WAGE) For those that know somebody who has had one of these loans,they will understand that another 250 employed by them means misery for another 2000. ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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10:52am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ?

Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !!

I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode Andy2010
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10:54am Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre? Another Landless Peasant
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10:57am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
(WILL THEY PAY A LIVING WAGE) For those that know somebody who has had one of these loans,they will understand that another 250 employed by them means misery for another 2000.
What has what they pay their staff got to do with their customers ?

These roles they were advertsing were attracting a salary of £18k - £20k so yes its a "living wage" as you like to quote
[quote][p][bold]ANY WHERE BUT HERE[/bold] wrote: (WILL THEY PAY A LIVING WAGE) For those that know somebody who has had one of these loans,they will understand that another 250 employed by them means misery for another 2000.[/p][/quote]What has what they pay their staff got to do with their customers ? These roles they were advertsing were attracting a salary of £18k - £20k so yes its a "living wage" as you like to quote Andy2010
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10:59am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
People who want a job?

People who want to contribute to society ?

People who has some self asteem?

People who want experience ?

People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society?

People who want to provide for their families?

To name a few
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?[/p][/quote]People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few Andy2010
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11:07am Tue 6 Nov 12

Albion. says...

While there might well be people who have reservations about this company, I applaud the fact that another 250 people will be in the habit of working and not reduced to the pointless waste of space existence that certain peasants seem to revel in.
While there might well be people who have reservations about this company, I applaud the fact that another 250 people will be in the habit of working and not reduced to the pointless waste of space existence that certain peasants seem to revel in. Albion.
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11:08am Tue 6 Nov 12

MontyLeMar says...

They really have been plugging their Vanquis Credit Card lately so something's working for them. Sadly at 40% APR interest it's not for me. I was looking at their savings rates. They offer 5 year bonds with a top rate of 3.7% interest. That plus their 200%+ interest on their loans means someone is making a lot of money somewhere though I'd guess their default rate is quite high? Is it good for Bradford? I just wish people didn't have to go to them but as my mother used them occasionally in the 50's and 60's they have their uses and the jobs are very useful.
They really have been plugging their Vanquis Credit Card lately so something's working for them. Sadly at 40% APR interest it's not for me. I was looking at their savings rates. They offer 5 year bonds with a top rate of 3.7% interest. That plus their 200%+ interest on their loans means someone is making a lot of money somewhere though I'd guess their default rate is quite high? Is it good for Bradford? I just wish people didn't have to go to them but as my mother used them occasionally in the 50's and 60's they have their uses and the jobs are very useful. MontyLeMar
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11:37am Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
People who want a job?

People who want to contribute to society ?

People who has some self asteem?

People who want experience ?

People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society?

People who want to provide for their families?

To name a few
And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?[/p][/quote]People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few[/p][/quote]And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company. Another Landless Peasant
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11:39am Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Andy2010 wrote:
single wrote:
once again, the moan moan brigade are evident .dont they want development in our city? they never sugest alternatives just knock people trying.250 jobs brilliant .
Most of them woudl rather sit on their backsides claiming benefits and slagging off the government rather than making something of themselves and resenting anyone that does
It all depends how you define "making something of yourself".
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]single[/bold] wrote: once again, the moan moan brigade are evident .dont they want development in our city? they never sugest alternatives just knock people trying.250 jobs brilliant .[/p][/quote]Most of them woudl rather sit on their backsides claiming benefits and slagging off the government rather than making something of themselves and resenting anyone that does[/p][/quote]It all depends how you define "making something of yourself". Another Landless Peasant
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11:41am Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few
And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.
OK name a company that your "morales" would allow you to work for?

Unfortunately morales dont pay the bills do they?

Oh I forgot we (the taxpayers) pay your bills dont we.

I would suggest you shouldnt be so picky with your "morales" when the rest of us are supporting you
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?[/p][/quote]People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few[/p][/quote]And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.[/p][/quote]OK name a company that your "morales" would allow you to work for? Unfortunately morales dont pay the bills do they? Oh I forgot we (the taxpayers) pay your bills dont we. I would suggest you shouldnt be so picky with your "morales" when the rest of us are supporting you Andy2010
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11:50am Tue 6 Nov 12

Michael Manus says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
Have to agree...it's 250 extra jobs in Bradford which are needed...they could have moved ALL the jobs across to India like many of the other credit card companies have. People then would have something to moan about.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]Have to agree...it's 250 extra jobs in Bradford which are needed...they could have moved ALL the jobs across to India like many of the other credit card companies have. People then would have something to moan about. Michael Manus
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11:51am Tue 6 Nov 12

Apollo says...

The word is moral. Morale is something entirely different.
The word is moral. Morale is something entirely different. Apollo
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12:16pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RuggerTyke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
That's good and well, then, bcause Bradford has an ever-increasing expansion in Street Pharmacists and 'Massage Parlours', boosting the economy, right ?.

Peter CROOK!

This is so surreal in keeping with Bradford, then there's this gem "I’m pleased that we will be creating more jobs in Bradford city centre, which is about 15,000 jobs short of what it should have."

You what mate ??, how many people will die as a result of you vulturing around vulnerable carcasses and it is people losing their jobs you prey on!

More needs to be done with regards alcohol and 'financial'/betting companies sponsoring sporting events as these criminals sponsored the ECB- that's England Cricket Board, not European Central Bank - t20 tournament for a few years, no doubt inviting more 'custom' and with it becoming more prevalent than ever, more needs to be done in regards to this as both are having a more deadly effect on society than tobacco.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]That's good and well, then, bcause Bradford has an ever-increasing expansion in Street Pharmacists and 'Massage Parlours', boosting the economy, right ?. Peter CROOK! This is so surreal in keeping with Bradford, then there's this gem "I’m pleased that we will be creating more jobs in Bradford city centre, which is about 15,000 jobs short of what it should have." You what mate ??, how many people will die as a result of you vulturing around vulnerable carcasses and it is people losing their jobs you prey on! More needs to be done with regards alcohol and 'financial'/betting companies sponsoring sporting events as these criminals sponsored the ECB- that's England Cricket Board, not European Central Bank - t20 tournament for a few years, no doubt inviting more 'custom' and with it becoming more prevalent than ever, more needs to be done in regards to this as both are having a more deadly effect on society than tobacco. RuggerTyke
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12:19pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RuggerTyke says...

Apollo wrote:
The word is moral. Morale is something entirely different.
Though the moral of this company is leeching off those with low morale.
[quote][p][bold]Apollo[/bold] wrote: The word is moral. Morale is something entirely different.[/p][/quote]Though the moral of this company is leeching off those with low morale. RuggerTyke
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12:24pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ?

Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !!

I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime. RollandSmoke
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12:31pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really?

Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole?

And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.?

You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they

You are simply an idiot
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot Andy2010
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12:37pm Tue 6 Nov 12

webess says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
People who want a job?

People who want to contribute to society ?

People who has some self asteem?

People who want experience ?

People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society?

People who want to provide for their families?

To name a few
And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.
Is that why you're on the dole?
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?[/p][/quote]People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few[/p][/quote]And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.[/p][/quote]Is that why you're on the dole? webess
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12:40pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

webess wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few
And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.
Is that why you're on the dole?
NO he's on the dole because he believes the state owes him a living and the nobody shoudl work because his grandparents fought in a war or something like that. Apparently none of us should work and all the "rich" should pay for us all...

Alas he fails to see what would happen when the "rich" money ran out...

Just go along with him....i found it easier
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?[/p][/quote]People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few[/p][/quote]And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.[/p][/quote]Is that why you're on the dole?[/p][/quote]NO he's on the dole because he believes the state owes him a living and the nobody shoudl work because his grandparents fought in a war or something like that. Apparently none of us should work and all the "rich" should pay for us all... Alas he fails to see what would happen when the "rich" money ran out... Just go along with him....i found it easier Andy2010
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12:48pm Tue 6 Nov 12

yorkshiredude says...

Not very ethical, but this kind of thing is allowed by law, so the jobs may as well be in Bradford!
Not very ethical, but this kind of thing is allowed by law, so the jobs may as well be in Bradford! yorkshiredude
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12:51pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really?

Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole?

And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.?

You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they

You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it. RollandSmoke
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12:59pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.[/p][/quote]No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered Andy2010
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1:04pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered
So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.[/p][/quote]No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered[/p][/quote]So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going? RollandSmoke
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1:16pm Tue 6 Nov 12

commuter123 says...

I know a lot of people disagree with the doorstep side of Provident but they do supply a service which people want and the majority (91%) are really happy with the service. People go to Provident because they need credit but they can't get it elsewhere. Same for the credit cards. The APRs are high but that takes into account the high default level. Someone quoted earlier about charges incurred if that happens, well if you default on a doorstep loan you don't get charged extra fees, its all included in the price of the loan.

For those complaining about the company I really would have a read of their websites and they do have a lot of interesting and independent information.

And for those of you questioning why people would work there, I'll tell you why - it's a fantastic company to work for. I've been here about a year and a half and love it. The people are brilliant. The managers actually want to help develop you and the company is always doing charity bits. We work really hard and shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we work for. I personally wouldn't use any of the services but that's only because I have the opportunity (should I ever need it) to get credit at a better rate but ive been out and met agents and customers. They like Provident and keep coming back. It's their choice.
I know a lot of people disagree with the doorstep side of Provident but they do supply a service which people want and the majority (91%) are really happy with the service. People go to Provident because they need credit but they can't get it elsewhere. Same for the credit cards. The APRs are high but that takes into account the high default level. Someone quoted earlier about charges incurred if that happens, well if you default on a doorstep loan you don't get charged extra fees, its all included in the price of the loan. For those complaining about the company I really would have a read of their websites and they do have a lot of interesting and independent information. And for those of you questioning why people would work there, I'll tell you why - it's a fantastic company to work for. I've been here about a year and a half and love it. The people are brilliant. The managers actually want to help develop you and the company is always doing charity bits. We work really hard and shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we work for. I personally wouldn't use any of the services but that's only because I have the opportunity (should I ever need it) to get credit at a better rate but ive been out and met agents and customers. They like Provident and keep coming back. It's their choice. commuter123
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1:24pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

commuter123 wrote:
I know a lot of people disagree with the doorstep side of Provident but they do supply a service which people want and the majority (91%) are really happy with the service. People go to Provident because they need credit but they can't get it elsewhere. Same for the credit cards. The APRs are high but that takes into account the high default level. Someone quoted earlier about charges incurred if that happens, well if you default on a doorstep loan you don't get charged extra fees, its all included in the price of the loan.

For those complaining about the company I really would have a read of their websites and they do have a lot of interesting and independent information.

And for those of you questioning why people would work there, I'll tell you why - it's a fantastic company to work for. I've been here about a year and a half and love it. The people are brilliant. The managers actually want to help develop you and the company is always doing charity bits. We work really hard and shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we work for. I personally wouldn't use any of the services but that's only because I have the opportunity (should I ever need it) to get credit at a better rate but ive been out and met agents and customers. They like Provident and keep coming back. It's their choice.
Come on Mr Crook give this guy a bonus. Cap doffers of this quality are hard to find. Ok so he's using his computer inappropriately in work time but his hearts in the right place.
[quote][p][bold]commuter123[/bold] wrote: I know a lot of people disagree with the doorstep side of Provident but they do supply a service which people want and the majority (91%) are really happy with the service. People go to Provident because they need credit but they can't get it elsewhere. Same for the credit cards. The APRs are high but that takes into account the high default level. Someone quoted earlier about charges incurred if that happens, well if you default on a doorstep loan you don't get charged extra fees, its all included in the price of the loan. For those complaining about the company I really would have a read of their websites and they do have a lot of interesting and independent information. And for those of you questioning why people would work there, I'll tell you why - it's a fantastic company to work for. I've been here about a year and a half and love it. The people are brilliant. The managers actually want to help develop you and the company is always doing charity bits. We work really hard and shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we work for. I personally wouldn't use any of the services but that's only because I have the opportunity (should I ever need it) to get credit at a better rate but ive been out and met agents and customers. They like Provident and keep coming back. It's their choice.[/p][/quote]Come on Mr Crook give this guy a bonus. Cap doffers of this quality are hard to find. Ok so he's using his computer inappropriately in work time but his hearts in the right place. RollandSmoke
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1:34pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered
So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?
Yes we do. IN fact I have a role I have been recruiting for a couple of months now but just seem to get sent dross from the agencies.

Unfortunately this role would require at least a 45 hour week so that counts you out

As explained above I work my own hours as long as get results so as to what point in the day I choose to comment on the T&A site really is none of your business. In fact I would ask the question as to how you can afford an internet connection and pc when your on benefits and wouldnt a better use of your time be actually searching for a job rather than flaming these threads
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.[/p][/quote]No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered[/p][/quote]So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?[/p][/quote]Yes we do. IN fact I have a role I have been recruiting for a couple of months now but just seem to get sent dross from the agencies. Unfortunately this role would require at least a 45 hour week so that counts you out As explained above I work my own hours as long as get results so as to what point in the day I choose to comment on the T&A site really is none of your business. In fact I would ask the question as to how you can afford an internet connection and pc when your on benefits and wouldnt a better use of your time be actually searching for a job rather than flaming these threads Andy2010
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1:37pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
commuter123 wrote:
I know a lot of people disagree with the doorstep side of Provident but they do supply a service which people want and the majority (91%) are really happy with the service. People go to Provident because they need credit but they can't get it elsewhere. Same for the credit cards. The APRs are high but that takes into account the high default level. Someone quoted earlier about charges incurred if that happens, well if you default on a doorstep loan you don't get charged extra fees, its all included in the price of the loan.

For those complaining about the company I really would have a read of their websites and they do have a lot of interesting and independent information.

And for those of you questioning why people would work there, I'll tell you why - it's a fantastic company to work for. I've been here about a year and a half and love it. The people are brilliant. The managers actually want to help develop you and the company is always doing charity bits. We work really hard and shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we work for. I personally wouldn't use any of the services but that's only because I have the opportunity (should I ever need it) to get credit at a better rate but ive been out and met agents and customers. They like Provident and keep coming back. It's their choice.
Come on Mr Crook give this guy a bonus. Cap doffers of this quality are hard to find. Ok so he's using his computer inappropriately in work time but his hearts in the right place.
Stupid comments aside from above I have also heard from people who have worked there that Provident is an excellent place to work. This can be shown simply by their staff retention.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]commuter123[/bold] wrote: I know a lot of people disagree with the doorstep side of Provident but they do supply a service which people want and the majority (91%) are really happy with the service. People go to Provident because they need credit but they can't get it elsewhere. Same for the credit cards. The APRs are high but that takes into account the high default level. Someone quoted earlier about charges incurred if that happens, well if you default on a doorstep loan you don't get charged extra fees, its all included in the price of the loan. For those complaining about the company I really would have a read of their websites and they do have a lot of interesting and independent information. And for those of you questioning why people would work there, I'll tell you why - it's a fantastic company to work for. I've been here about a year and a half and love it. The people are brilliant. The managers actually want to help develop you and the company is always doing charity bits. We work really hard and shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we work for. I personally wouldn't use any of the services but that's only because I have the opportunity (should I ever need it) to get credit at a better rate but ive been out and met agents and customers. They like Provident and keep coming back. It's their choice.[/p][/quote]Come on Mr Crook give this guy a bonus. Cap doffers of this quality are hard to find. Ok so he's using his computer inappropriately in work time but his hearts in the right place.[/p][/quote]Stupid comments aside from above I have also heard from people who have worked there that Provident is an excellent place to work. This can be shown simply by their staff retention. Andy2010
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1:49pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered
So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?
Yes we do. IN fact I have a role I have been recruiting for a couple of months now but just seem to get sent dross from the agencies.

Unfortunately this role would require at least a 45 hour week so that counts you out

As explained above I work my own hours as long as get results so as to what point in the day I choose to comment on the T&A site really is none of your business. In fact I would ask the question as to how you can afford an internet connection and pc when your on benefits and wouldnt a better use of your time be actually searching for a job rather than flaming these threads
I wouldn't have thought the standards expected would be that high judging by the dross you post on here. Maybe you're expecting quality staff to apply for a job that would still leave them relient on benefits. I'm not looking for work as my reason for being out of work is a medical one which is none of you business. If I was to find myself in a position where I had to work with people such as yourself I couldn't gaurentee their safety.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.[/p][/quote]No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered[/p][/quote]So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?[/p][/quote]Yes we do. IN fact I have a role I have been recruiting for a couple of months now but just seem to get sent dross from the agencies. Unfortunately this role would require at least a 45 hour week so that counts you out As explained above I work my own hours as long as get results so as to what point in the day I choose to comment on the T&A site really is none of your business. In fact I would ask the question as to how you can afford an internet connection and pc when your on benefits and wouldnt a better use of your time be actually searching for a job rather than flaming these threads[/p][/quote]I wouldn't have thought the standards expected would be that high judging by the dross you post on here. Maybe you're expecting quality staff to apply for a job that would still leave them relient on benefits. I'm not looking for work as my reason for being out of work is a medical one which is none of you business. If I was to find myself in a position where I had to work with people such as yourself I couldn't gaurentee their safety. RollandSmoke
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1:50pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered
Don't you have some work to be getting on with?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.[/p][/quote]No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered[/p][/quote]Don't you have some work to be getting on with? Another Landless Peasant
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1:53pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?
People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few
And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.
OK name a company that your "morales" would allow you to work for?

Unfortunately morales dont pay the bills do they?

Oh I forgot we (the taxpayers) pay your bills dont we.

I would suggest you shouldnt be so picky with your "morales" when the rest of us are supporting you
You always will be supporting those who are unemployed. Full employment is an impossibility in a Capitalist system. Capitalism itself cannot function without unemployment. And it is there for you, or your children, when you or they become unemployed.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Who the *BLANK* wants to work in a call centre?[/p][/quote]People who want a job? People who want to contribute to society ? People who has some self asteem? People who want experience ? People who dont want to sit on their backsides all day sponging off society? People who want to provide for their families? To name a few[/p][/quote]And some of us have higher morals than to work for such a dubious company.[/p][/quote]OK name a company that your "morales" would allow you to work for? Unfortunately morales dont pay the bills do they? Oh I forgot we (the taxpayers) pay your bills dont we. I would suggest you shouldnt be so picky with your "morales" when the rest of us are supporting you[/p][/quote]You always will be supporting those who are unemployed. Full employment is an impossibility in a Capitalist system. Capitalism itself cannot function without unemployment. And it is there for you, or your children, when you or they become unemployed. Another Landless Peasant
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1:59pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
bhuna156 wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...
Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...
For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode
I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.
Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot
As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.
No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered
So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?
Yes we do. IN fact I have a role I have been recruiting for a couple of months now but just seem to get sent dross from the agencies.

Unfortunately this role would require at least a 45 hour week so that counts you out

As explained above I work my own hours as long as get results so as to what point in the day I choose to comment on the T&A site really is none of your business. In fact I would ask the question as to how you can afford an internet connection and pc when your on benefits and wouldnt a better use of your time be actually searching for a job rather than flaming these threads
How can those on Benefits afford an internet connection? Well in my case I eat less. As for job searching, did that yesterday, applied for my statutory ten jobs per fortnight as instructed, and as I do every fortnight.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: T&A should just ban comments as they are mostly from idiots who just like to moan and don't like reading positive things about Bradford. Some of you really need to get a life...[/p][/quote]Got a problem with freedom of speech have you? Do you honestly believe that these companies would come here if they didn't believe that the people of Bradford were desperate and therefore ripe for exploitation? Some of you really need to get an education...[/p][/quote]For goodness sake its their CREDIT CARD division. Did you even read the story ? Being based in Bradford has nothing to do with it as they are NATIONWIDE !! I would suggest its you that needs an education is you beleive that Provident just provide loans and credit cards to the people with a BD postcode[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry I just have this nasty habit of thinking that when a company makes money from an exploitative business model the company as a whole is a fair target for critisism. I'm sure that some people will enjoy being sat staring at a computer screen all day. Personally I didn't but you seem to. The difference is that these people will actually be WORKING you should try it sometime.[/p][/quote]Exploitive business model...really? Soory but they are credit card provider.. They operate under FSA rules as does every bank / financial institution. Are you saying all the people that are employed by financial institution are morally corrupt and are better off on the dole? And your comment about sitting staring at a computer...are you for real.? You spend so much time commentingon here you clearly dont mind sat on a computer yet fail to understand why anyone would work with a computer for a living..Sorry to burst your bubble but literally BILLIONS of people everyday stare at computers for their jobs as I do myself. Sure Id rather be a fighter pilot or surgeon but alas Im not qualified so will have to do this to pay my bills because no-one else is going to are they You are simply an idiot[/p][/quote]As is obvious to anyone who can read I believe the company is morally corrupt not the employees. The FSA are hardly first class when it comes to preventing corruption and moral corruption is not in their remit. Yes I have no problem staring at a computer because I can take my own sweet time to do or not do whatever I please. I'm not working and neither are you. Difference being I'm not hypocritical with it.[/p][/quote]No the difference being is when all is said and done I have a job to do and are paid for results. As and when I work are up to me and the difference between ourselves is that I pay my taxes to support people who cant be bothered[/p][/quote]So who is paying you to troll the T&A all day every day? Any jobs going?[/p][/quote]Yes we do. IN fact I have a role I have been recruiting for a couple of months now but just seem to get sent dross from the agencies. Unfortunately this role would require at least a 45 hour week so that counts you out As explained above I work my own hours as long as get results so as to what point in the day I choose to comment on the T&A site really is none of your business. In fact I would ask the question as to how you can afford an internet connection and pc when your on benefits and wouldnt a better use of your time be actually searching for a job rather than flaming these threads[/p][/quote]How can those on Benefits afford an internet connection? Well in my case I eat less. As for job searching, did that yesterday, applied for my statutory ten jobs per fortnight as instructed, and as I do every fortnight. Another Landless Peasant
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2:47pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Does anyone know how to turn off that annoying 'featured jobs' thingy on the T&A homepage, 'cos it's slowing down my computer and my adblock doesn't seem to block it?
Does anyone know how to turn off that annoying 'featured jobs' thingy on the T&A homepage, 'cos it's slowing down my computer and my adblock doesn't seem to block it? Another Landless Peasant
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3:07pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Albion. says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Does anyone know how to turn off that annoying 'featured jobs' thingy on the T&A homepage, 'cos it's slowing down my computer and my adblock doesn't seem to block it?
Right click on it, assuming you have Addblock you get the option to "block this add", click on that and a slide bar should appear, move it until the add disappears (I had to do it twice).

Getting at your conscience is it? :-)
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know how to turn off that annoying 'featured jobs' thingy on the T&A homepage, 'cos it's slowing down my computer and my adblock doesn't seem to block it?[/p][/quote]Right click on it, assuming you have Addblock you get the option to "block this add", click on that and a slide bar should appear, move it until the add disappears (I had to do it twice). Getting at your conscience is it? :-) Albion.
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3:07pm Tue 6 Nov 12

ANY WHERE BUT HERE says...

Andy2010 wrote:
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
(WILL THEY PAY A LIVING WAGE) For those that know somebody who has had one of these loans,they will understand that another 250 employed by them means misery for another 2000.
What has what they pay their staff got to do with their customers ?

These roles they were advertsing were attracting a salary of £18k - £20k so yes its a "living wage" as you like to quote
The jobs, are call centr'e work. Where are you getting £18 to £20k. The point i'm making is that low levels of pay anywhere, encourage this kind business. Do you think provident are selling a good product. Or is'it that people are desperate because of v low pay.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ANY WHERE BUT HERE[/bold] wrote: (WILL THEY PAY A LIVING WAGE) For those that know somebody who has had one of these loans,they will understand that another 250 employed by them means misery for another 2000.[/p][/quote]What has what they pay their staff got to do with their customers ? These roles they were advertsing were attracting a salary of £18k - £20k so yes its a "living wage" as you like to quote[/p][/quote]The jobs, are call centr'e work. Where are you getting £18 to £20k. The point i'm making is that low levels of pay anywhere, encourage this kind business. Do you think provident are selling a good product. Or is'it that people are desperate because of v low pay. ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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3:27pm Tue 6 Nov 12

mr-dog says...

Making money from money ought to be a crime.
Making money from money ought to be a crime. mr-dog
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3:29pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

First rule of sensible finance is, don't get into debt! Not a difficult notion to understand. However some people are so asinine, that’s why companies like this flourish, especially in the worst of times.
First rule of sensible finance is, don't get into debt! Not a difficult notion to understand. However some people are so asinine, that’s why companies like this flourish, especially in the worst of times. Outraged English Subject
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3:31pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Albion. says...

mr-dog wrote:
Making money from money ought to be a crime.
How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit?
I would agree with stricter regulation though.
[quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: Making money from money ought to be a crime.[/p][/quote]How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit? I would agree with stricter regulation though. Albion.
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3:37pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

Albion. wrote:
mr-dog wrote:
Making money from money ought to be a crime.
How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit?
I would agree with stricter regulation though.
Unfortunately Gordon Brown sold us all down the river with that one
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: Making money from money ought to be a crime.[/p][/quote]How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit? I would agree with stricter regulation though.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately Gordon Brown sold us all down the river with that one Andy2010
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4:01pm Tue 6 Nov 12

roger62 says...

A timely boost for Bradford. Should the jobs go to India or China? PFG offer small loans at high interest rates, not massive loans at suicidal interest rates (Wonga etc etc). PFG pay UK tax, unlike Apple who pay 2% in UK & Vodafone owe £6.5billion in tax). Well done to PFG (and Morrisons too) for sticking with Bradford (unlike Thomas Cook). A profitable well run financial lender who will not bring the country to its knees (no offence RBS, BBBs, Northern Rock, Lloyds Banking Group)
A timely boost for Bradford. Should the jobs go to India or China? PFG offer small loans at high interest rates, not massive loans at suicidal interest rates (Wonga etc etc). PFG pay UK tax, unlike Apple who pay 2% in UK & Vodafone owe £6.5billion in tax). Well done to PFG (and Morrisons too) for sticking with Bradford (unlike Thomas Cook). A profitable well run financial lender who will not bring the country to its knees (no offence RBS, BBBs, Northern Rock, Lloyds Banking Group) roger62
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4:18pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Albion. wrote:
mr-dog wrote:
Making money from money ought to be a crime.
How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit?
I would agree with stricter regulation though.
This is going down the religitard path, don't give it credence.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: Making money from money ought to be a crime.[/p][/quote]How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit? I would agree with stricter regulation though.[/p][/quote]This is going down the religitard path, don't give it credence. Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:22pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

Representative example:
£200 loan repayable over 32 weeks
32 weekly payments of £10.00
Rate of interest 97.5% p.a. fixed;
Representative 399.7%APR
Total Amount Payable is £320

take out a £500 loan and, well you do the maths. Aberrant, immoral, corrupt and legal, maybe we need to look with better eyes.
Representative example: £200 loan repayable over 32 weeks 32 weekly payments of £10.00 Rate of interest 97.5% p.a. fixed; Representative 399.7%APR Total Amount Payable is £320 take out a £500 loan and, well you do the maths. Aberrant, immoral, corrupt and legal, maybe we need to look with better eyes. Outraged English Subject
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4:37pm Tue 6 Nov 12

webess says...

Outraged English Subject wrote:
Representative example:
£200 loan repayable over 32 weeks
32 weekly payments of £10.00
Rate of interest 97.5% p.a. fixed;
Representative 399.7%APR
Total Amount Payable is £320

take out a £500 loan and, well you do the maths. Aberrant, immoral, corrupt and legal, maybe we need to look with better eyes.
If it's so profitable, why aren't the major banks offering these loans?
[quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: Representative example: £200 loan repayable over 32 weeks 32 weekly payments of £10.00 Rate of interest 97.5% p.a. fixed; Representative 399.7%APR Total Amount Payable is £320 take out a £500 loan and, well you do the maths. Aberrant, immoral, corrupt and legal, maybe we need to look with better eyes.[/p][/quote]If it's so profitable, why aren't the major banks offering these loans? webess
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4:40pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Albion. says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Albion. wrote:
mr-dog wrote:
Making money from money ought to be a crime.
How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit?
I would agree with stricter regulation though.
This is going down the religitard path, don't give it credence.
That did occur to me. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: Making money from money ought to be a crime.[/p][/quote]How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit? I would agree with stricter regulation though.[/p][/quote]This is going down the religitard path, don't give it credence.[/p][/quote]That did occur to me. ;-) Albion.
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4:41pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

Work that question out for yourself, surely!
Work that question out for yourself, surely! Outraged English Subject
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4:43pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

And before anyone gets high horsed about the use of 'tard it is in relation to being held back by religion as in made late or slowed down ie retardation. The future lies away from mono-gods and idiotic followers.
And before anyone gets high horsed about the use of 'tard it is in relation to being held back by religion as in made late or slowed down ie retardation. The future lies away from mono-gods and idiotic followers. Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:44pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Farsley Bantam says...

webess wrote:
Outraged English Subject wrote: Representative example: £200 loan repayable over 32 weeks 32 weekly payments of £10.00 Rate of interest 97.5% p.a. fixed; Representative 399.7%APR Total Amount Payable is £320 take out a £500 loan and, well you do the maths. Aberrant, immoral, corrupt and legal, maybe we need to look with better eyes.
If it's so profitable, why aren't the major banks offering these loans?
Because they are a total hassle one imagines.
So much effort must go in to collecting these debts that the interest rates barely cover the costs.
There will be plenty of defaults so the high interest rates are necessary to offset these losses.
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: Representative example: £200 loan repayable over 32 weeks 32 weekly payments of £10.00 Rate of interest 97.5% p.a. fixed; Representative 399.7%APR Total Amount Payable is £320 take out a £500 loan and, well you do the maths. Aberrant, immoral, corrupt and legal, maybe we need to look with better eyes.[/p][/quote]If it's so profitable, why aren't the major banks offering these loans?[/p][/quote]Because they are a total hassle one imagines. So much effort must go in to collecting these debts that the interest rates barely cover the costs. There will be plenty of defaults so the high interest rates are necessary to offset these losses. Farsley Bantam
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5:14pm Tue 6 Nov 12

collos25 says...

The major banks do only they trade under other names for their so called high risk loans.
The major banks do only they trade under other names for their so called high risk loans. collos25
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5:22pm Tue 6 Nov 12

collos25 says...

The major banks do only they trade under other names for their so called high risk loans.
The major banks do only they trade under other names for their so called high risk loans. collos25
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5:33pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Albion. wrote:
mr-dog wrote:
Making money from money ought to be a crime.
How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit?
I would agree with stricter regulation though.
This is going down the religitard path, don't give it credence.
Surley no-one would ever use a religion as a smokescreen to hide from critisism of usuary
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr-dog[/bold] wrote: Making money from money ought to be a crime.[/p][/quote]How would banks and pension schemes and all sorts of other investments work if they couldn't make a profit? I would agree with stricter regulation though.[/p][/quote]This is going down the religitard path, don't give it credence.[/p][/quote]Surley no-one would ever use a religion as a smokescreen to hide from critisism of usuary RollandSmoke
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5:44pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

usury
usury Outraged English Subject
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5:50pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Albion. says...

Outraged English Subject wrote:
usury
Surely :-)
[quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: usury[/p][/quote]Surely :-) Albion.
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5:54pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.
I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort. RollandSmoke
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6:42pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.
Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.[/p][/quote]Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments. Outraged English Subject
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6:46pm Tue 6 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

On a more serious note the T&A is carrying a story about "District benefits claimants being reassessed" which goes on to misleadingly claim "More than four in ten sickness benefit claimants across Bradford are being assessed as fit to work" and that "(25 per cent) were assessed as not able to work". It makes no mention whatsoever of the appeals process. Why is that?
It also makes no mention of the fact that "In total, between January 2011 and November 2011, some 10,600 claims ended and a date of death was recorded within six weeks of the claim end".
http://statistics.dw
p.gov.uk/asd/asd1/ad
hoc_analysis/2012/in
cap_decd_recips_0712
.pdf
I see no reason other than underhanded ones why comments haven't been allowed on this story.
Who are you serving T&A because it isn't your readers? How many thousands constitutes genocide?
.
On a more serious note the T&A is carrying a story about "District benefits claimants being reassessed" which goes on to misleadingly claim "More than four in ten sickness benefit claimants across Bradford are being assessed as fit to work" and that "(25 per cent) were assessed as not able to work". It makes no mention whatsoever of the appeals process. Why is that? It also makes no mention of the fact that "In total, between January 2011 and November 2011, some 10,600 claims ended and a date of death was recorded within six weeks of the claim end". http://statistics.dw p.gov.uk/asd/asd1/ad hoc_analysis/2012/in cap_decd_recips_0712 .pdf I see no reason other than underhanded ones why comments haven't been allowed on this story. Who are you serving T&A because it isn't your readers? How many thousands constitutes genocide? . RollandSmoke
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8:23pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Credit munch bunch says...

I don't normally comment on things like theses threads, been a working family man trying to make a honest living , don't really have much time .
But having read these comments denergrating an organisation that provides a value added service to people who otherwise would not be able to secure finance through mainstream prime lending institutions. ( I know this for fact not here say ) as every day I live and breath I speak to people who thank me for providing them the service. Delinquancy is a risk for any provider of a credit facility weather that's b2b or b2c business model, the high interest rates and low credit limits are set that way to help people manage a credit line properly
Which in time opens up other avenues for credit people need like mortgages .
As well as been regulated by the FSA we at Vanquis have internal regulations and policy's to abide by as well as living the values that have helped us to become NO 1 credit card provider for the last 4 years running .
We don't force people to apply we mearley invite people to and also we dont accept anyone. So image that certain individuals are portraying of a base ball batted thug company shilocking the elderly infirm and unemployed is a misconception.
I don't normally comment on things like theses threads, been a working family man trying to make a honest living , don't really have much time . But having read these comments denergrating an organisation that provides a value added service to people who otherwise would not be able to secure finance through mainstream prime lending institutions. ( I know this for fact not here say ) as every day I live and breath I speak to people who thank me for providing them the service. Delinquancy is a risk for any provider of a credit facility weather that's b2b or b2c business model, the high interest rates and low credit limits are set that way to help people manage a credit line properly Which in time opens up other avenues for credit people need like mortgages . As well as been regulated by the FSA we at Vanquis have internal regulations and policy's to abide by as well as living the values that have helped us to become NO 1 credit card provider for the last 4 years running . We don't force people to apply we mearley invite people to and also we dont accept anyone. So image that certain individuals are portraying of a base ball batted thug company shilocking the elderly infirm and unemployed is a misconception. Credit munch bunch
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8:26pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Da1e Martin says...

David Green: “We are delighted that yet more employment in Bradford city centre is being offered, and we intend to work with Provident to help ensure they can manage their expansion as quickly as is possible, whichever of the options they decide on".
.
He is delighted,,,, really?,,,, He is delighted that the one area of growth in employment in Bradford has its origin in doorstep loan sharking? Is he delighted to see that obviously poverty has become a boom business for these people, has he not stopped to think for one second the ramifications of this? ,,,,,,,,, What a chump.
David Green: “We are delighted that yet more employment in Bradford city centre is being offered, and we intend to work with Provident to help ensure they can manage their expansion as quickly as is possible, whichever of the options they decide on". . He is delighted,,,, really?,,,, He is delighted that the one area of growth in employment in Bradford has its origin in doorstep loan sharking? Is he delighted to see that obviously poverty has become a boom business for these people, has he not stopped to think for one second the ramifications of this? ,,,,,,,,, What a chump. Da1e Martin
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8:59pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Avro says...

Great that 250 jobs are being created, though lets not forget that there were job losses before the Head Office move came about, and that they also outsourced its Data Centre to another company which resulted in more job losses.

Its also amazing how people forget the very recent highlight from the BBC Panorama team, of how Provident conducts its doorstep lending, in having loaned a schizophrenic woman thousands...

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/finance/perso
nalfinance/borrowing
/loans/9578257/Doors
tep-lender-gave-thou
sands-to-schizophren
ic-woman.html#

Nothing more than licensed loan sharks, who dont break legs but prey on the vulnerable for a lifetime customer sewn up with rolling debt!

Its also interesting to see that Provident fund community schemes in Holmewood, where the majority of its residents are indebited to the company.
Great that 250 jobs are being created, though lets not forget that there were job losses before the Head Office move came about, and that they also outsourced its Data Centre to another company which resulted in more job losses. Its also amazing how people forget the very recent highlight from the BBC Panorama team, of how Provident conducts its doorstep lending, in having loaned a schizophrenic woman thousands... http://www.telegraph .co.uk/finance/perso nalfinance/borrowing /loans/9578257/Doors tep-lender-gave-thou sands-to-schizophren ic-woman.html# Nothing more than licensed loan sharks, who dont break legs but prey on the vulnerable for a lifetime customer sewn up with rolling debt! Its also interesting to see that Provident fund community schemes in Holmewood, where the majority of its residents are indebited to the company. Avro
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9:13pm Tue 6 Nov 12

DevonBull says...

Just to change this slightly, we have a problem with our credit rating as we do not have one. We have had to take a car loan out just to get any sort of rating, no debit, no rating! . 250 jobs is great and helping people out is great but why can they not just break even rather than try and make loads of profit? Breaking even would reduce costs for the borrower. It seems that the only people that care about profit are the people that don't care! Simple really.
Just to change this slightly, we have a problem with our credit rating as we do not have one. We have had to take a car loan out just to get any sort of rating, no debit, no rating! . 250 jobs is great and helping people out is great but why can they not just break even rather than try and make loads of profit? Breaking even would reduce costs for the borrower. It seems that the only people that care about profit are the people that don't care! Simple really. DevonBull
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11:00pm Tue 6 Nov 12

dorny1971 says...

idleone wrote:
This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.
Idleone - are you called that because you can't be bothered to do your research?

Vincent Cable is just after cheap popularity - after all, he's an MP.

Should we shut these companies down and leave customers who can't get high street loans to the REAL loan sharks?
[quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.[/p][/quote]Idleone - are you called that because you can't be bothered to do your research? Vincent Cable is just after cheap popularity - after all, he's an MP. Should we shut these companies down and leave customers who can't get high street loans to the REAL loan sharks? dorny1971
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11:42pm Tue 6 Nov 12

idleone says...

dorny1971 wrote:
idleone wrote:
This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.
Idleone - are you called that because you can't be bothered to do your research?

Vincent Cable is just after cheap popularity - after all, he's an MP.

Should we shut these companies down and leave customers who can't get high street loans to the REAL loan sharks?
Dorny1971..... Sorry bud, missing your point there, how have I not researched? Vincent did day that and as a treasury member is qualified to comment. So... Your point is ?
[quote][p][bold]dorny1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idleone[/bold] wrote: This is not good news. A "doorstep" loan company praying on those refused credit by mainstream banks and charging 222% interest (APR). MP Vincent cable described it as "wicked" in the Guardian recently, and this company is no better than a loanshark. Noting for Bradford to be proud of.[/p][/quote]Idleone - are you called that because you can't be bothered to do your research? Vincent Cable is just after cheap popularity - after all, he's an MP. Should we shut these companies down and leave customers who can't get high street loans to the REAL loan sharks?[/p][/quote]Dorny1971..... Sorry bud, missing your point there, how have I not researched? Vincent did day that and as a treasury member is qualified to comment. So... Your point is ? idleone
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11:49am Wed 7 Nov 12

Parz says...

I have to say I've found all the negativity on here amusing. Perhaps you're not happy that it's this particular company that has brough in the jobs, but have you ever heard the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers."? Perhaps you should all just be pleased that someone is willing to bring some jobs into the city.

No pleasing some.
I have to say I've found all the negativity on here amusing. Perhaps you're not happy that it's this particular company that has brough in the jobs, but have you ever heard the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers."? Perhaps you should all just be pleased that someone is willing to bring some jobs into the city. No pleasing some. Parz
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12:57pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

Parz wrote:
I have to say I've found all the negativity on here amusing. Perhaps you're not happy that it's this particular company that has brough in the jobs, but have you ever heard the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers."? Perhaps you should all just be pleased that someone is willing to bring some jobs into the city. No pleasing some.
On these boards I'm afraid you are right my friend

If someone announced they were bringing in 100,000 jobs to the centre the regulars wingers on here who incidentally choose not to work for various reasons would no doubt crititise it and blame the Government once again for something or other
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: I have to say I've found all the negativity on here amusing. Perhaps you're not happy that it's this particular company that has brough in the jobs, but have you ever heard the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers."? Perhaps you should all just be pleased that someone is willing to bring some jobs into the city. No pleasing some.[/p][/quote]On these boards I'm afraid you are right my friend If someone announced they were bringing in 100,000 jobs to the centre the regulars wingers on here who incidentally choose not to work for various reasons would no doubt crititise it and blame the Government once again for something or other Andy2010
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1:01pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

This is the vilest of comments I’ve had the displeasure of reading on this thread. Some people of this great Nation of ours do not consider this companies user/group as beggars or for your sad amusement!
This is the vilest of comments I’ve had the displeasure of reading on this thread. Some people of this great Nation of ours do not consider this companies user/group as beggars or for your sad amusement! Outraged English Subject
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1:31pm Wed 7 Nov 12

BD16-And-Annoyed says...

250 jobs is still 250 jobs in Bradford, people moaning about the levels of unemployment should be backing this. It isn't exactly like Provident cater just for the BD post code. And who knows, in turn this may give some users a bit of extra cash to spend in a Bradford store thus giving the economy a potential boost. I'm not a huge fan of any loan company that charge a large amount of interest but this a a nice piece of news to hear considering the generally poor feeback Bradford gets, especially in terms of unemployment.
250 jobs is still 250 jobs in Bradford, people moaning about the levels of unemployment should be backing this. It isn't exactly like Provident cater just for the BD post code. And who knows, in turn this may give some users a bit of extra cash to spend in a Bradford store thus giving the economy a potential boost. I'm not a huge fan of any loan company that charge a large amount of interest but this a a nice piece of news to hear considering the generally poor feeback Bradford gets, especially in terms of unemployment. BD16-And-Annoyed
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1:31pm Wed 7 Nov 12

BD16-And-Annoyed says...

250 jobs is still 250 jobs in Bradford, people moaning about the levels of unemployment should be backing this. It isn't exactly like Provident cater just for the BD post code. And who knows, in turn this may give some users a bit of extra cash to spend in a Bradford store thus giving the economy a potential boost. I'm not a huge fan of any loan company that charge a large amount of interest but this a a nice piece of news to hear considering the generally poor feedback Bradford gets, especially in terms of unemployment.
250 jobs is still 250 jobs in Bradford, people moaning about the levels of unemployment should be backing this. It isn't exactly like Provident cater just for the BD post code. And who knows, in turn this may give some users a bit of extra cash to spend in a Bradford store thus giving the economy a potential boost. I'm not a huge fan of any loan company that charge a large amount of interest but this a a nice piece of news to hear considering the generally poor feedback Bradford gets, especially in terms of unemployment. BD16-And-Annoyed
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1:37pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Avro says...

The majority of Provi's customers are on benefits, so its the tax payer tha funds such loans!

I wonder how many Provi customers will be offered a job?
The majority of Provi's customers are on benefits, so its the tax payer tha funds such loans! I wonder how many Provi customers will be offered a job? Avro
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1:42pm Wed 7 Nov 12

BD16-And-Annoyed says...

Avro wrote:
The majority of Provi's customers are on benefits, so its the tax payer tha funds such loans!

I wonder how many Provi customers will be offered a job?
Where does it state that the majority of their customers are on benefits?
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: The majority of Provi's customers are on benefits, so its the tax payer tha funds such loans! I wonder how many Provi customers will be offered a job?[/p][/quote]Where does it state that the majority of their customers are on benefits? BD16-And-Annoyed
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2:42pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

BD16-And-Annoyed wrote:
Avro wrote:
The majority of Provi's customers are on benefits, so its the tax payer tha funds such loans!

I wonder how many Provi customers will be offered a job?
Where does it state that the majority of their customers are on benefits?
No they arent on benefits at all. The "doorstep" lending side of the business is absolutely tiny compared to the rest of the business although dont let that detract you from the truth
[quote][p][bold]BD16-And-Annoyed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: The majority of Provi's customers are on benefits, so its the tax payer tha funds such loans! I wonder how many Provi customers will be offered a job?[/p][/quote]Where does it state that the majority of their customers are on benefits?[/p][/quote]No they arent on benefits at all. The "doorstep" lending side of the business is absolutely tiny compared to the rest of the business although dont let that detract you from the truth Andy2010
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7:02pm Wed 7 Nov 12

allinittogether says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares."
Do you really mean that?
You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"? allinittogether
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8:30pm Wed 7 Nov 12

TirNaNog says...

Parz wrote:
I have to say I've found all the negativity on here amusing. Perhaps you're not happy that it's this particular company that has brough in the jobs, but have you ever heard the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers."? Perhaps you should all just be pleased that someone is willing to bring some jobs into the city.

No pleasing some.
You must be new here. Welcome!
Some of the ill-informed numpties passing themselves off as experts keep us in stitches. PFG should put these comments up on a projection screen for a laugh.
If you stick around it will eventually become a racial issue - they all do!
It's hilarious. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: I have to say I've found all the negativity on here amusing. Perhaps you're not happy that it's this particular company that has brough in the jobs, but have you ever heard the phrase "Beggars can't be choosers."? Perhaps you should all just be pleased that someone is willing to bring some jobs into the city. No pleasing some.[/p][/quote]You must be new here. Welcome! Some of the ill-informed numpties passing themselves off as experts keep us in stitches. PFG should put these comments up on a projection screen for a laugh. If you stick around it will eventually become a racial issue - they all do! It's hilarious. ;-) TirNaNog
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10:11pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares."
Do you really mean that?
You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?.

Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country

Want morals ?

Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing?

Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China?

My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so

This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work, Andy2010
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10:31pm Wed 7 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares."
Do you really mean that?
You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?.

Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country

Want morals ?

Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing?

Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China?

My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so

This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
Allegedly you can earn £60,000 from growing a couple of rooms full of plants. As now in Washington and Collorado it is totally legal to do so would you say that anyone taking advantage of this change in the law is immoral or just looking out for themselves?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,[/p][/quote]Allegedly you can earn £60,000 from growing a couple of rooms full of plants. As now in Washington and Collorado it is totally legal to do so would you say that anyone taking advantage of this change in the law is immoral or just looking out for themselves? RollandSmoke
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10:47pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Patrick Bateman says...

Outraged English Subject wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.
Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.
Hey Rolly, is this a deranged 'fan' or just one of your sock-puppets?? ;)
[quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.[/p][/quote]Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.[/p][/quote]Hey Rolly, is this a deranged 'fan' or just one of your sock-puppets?? ;) Patrick Bateman
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11:06pm Wed 7 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Outraged English Subject wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.
Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.
Hey Rolly, is this a deranged 'fan' or just one of your sock-puppets?? ;)
What can I say Patrick people like me, I know that's not an experience you'll be familiar with. I am no puppetmaster
[quote][p][bold]Patrick Bateman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.[/p][/quote]Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.[/p][/quote]Hey Rolly, is this a deranged 'fan' or just one of your sock-puppets?? ;)[/p][/quote]What can I say Patrick people like me, I know that's not an experience you'll be familiar with. I am no puppetmaster RollandSmoke
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11:34pm Wed 7 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Good diversionary tac-tic by the way Patrick, saved you answering the question I posed to Andy2010 and I know you must have an opinion on it because your usually quite vocal, or should I say textual, about such matters. Cat got your tongue?
Good diversionary tac-tic by the way Patrick, saved you answering the question I posed to Andy2010 and I know you must have an opinion on it because your usually quite vocal, or should I say textual, about such matters. Cat got your tongue? RollandSmoke
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3:12am Thu 8 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

Albion. wrote:
Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Does anyone know how to turn off that annoying 'featured jobs' thingy on the T&A homepage, 'cos it's slowing down my computer and my adblock doesn't seem to block it?
Right click on it, assuming you have Addblock you get the option to "block this add", click on that and a slide bar should appear, move it until the add disappears (I had to do it twice).

Getting at your conscience is it? :-)
I presume by having advertisements on these pages the T&A is making money through ALP's ability to get people to return to the page thus upping their View count? Or maybe people just like reading the story again and again. You ask for money from people to Advertise on your website they're gonna be asking 'bout them views. It's slave labour or community service or some such. Last thing he needs is a constant reminder that he ain't getting nowt out of this.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know how to turn off that annoying 'featured jobs' thingy on the T&A homepage, 'cos it's slowing down my computer and my adblock doesn't seem to block it?[/p][/quote]Right click on it, assuming you have Addblock you get the option to "block this add", click on that and a slide bar should appear, move it until the add disappears (I had to do it twice). Getting at your conscience is it? :-)[/p][/quote]I presume by having advertisements on these pages the T&A is making money through ALP's ability to get people to return to the page thus upping their View count? Or maybe people just like reading the story again and again. You ask for money from people to Advertise on your website they're gonna be asking 'bout them views. It's slave labour or community service or some such. Last thing he needs is a constant reminder that he ain't getting nowt out of this. RollandSmoke
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7:33am Thu 8 Nov 12

Outraged English Subject says...

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Outraged English Subject wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.
Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.
Hey Rolly, is this a deranged 'fan' or just one of your sock-puppets?? ;)
PB, if you have any kind of name you’ll like to call me, we can easily meet up in Bradford and you can call me it to my face? Kind Regards.
[quote][p][bold]Patrick Bateman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: I know, the education system failed me and when talking to people on here I just can't seem to motivate myself to make an effort.[/p][/quote]Personally I look forward to your comments; you always post thought provoking ones. I had to search for the word as I did not recognise it. Please keep posting your comments.[/p][/quote]Hey Rolly, is this a deranged 'fan' or just one of your sock-puppets?? ;)[/p][/quote]PB, if you have any kind of name you’ll like to call me, we can easily meet up in Bradford and you can call me it to my face? Kind Regards. Outraged English Subject
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10:11am Thu 8 Nov 12

allinittogether says...

Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down.

As to what the company does who cares.

Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats...

They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff

How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares."
Do you really mean that?
You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?.

Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country

Want morals ?

Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing?

Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China?

My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so

This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't.
Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was.
In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in.
With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,[/p][/quote]I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be. allinittogether
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11:24am Thu 8 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.
Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter.

I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc.

These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery.

Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn.

That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods.

Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also.

End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,[/p][/quote]I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.[/p][/quote]Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter. I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc. These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery. Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn. That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods. Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also. End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities Andy2010
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12:07pm Thu 8 Nov 12

Parz says...

Outraged English Subject wrote:
This is the vilest of comments I’ve had the displeasure of reading on this thread. Some people of this great Nation of ours do not consider this companies user/group as beggars or for your sad amusement!
To straighten out any confusion, I wasn't suggesting that PFG or thier customers were beggars. I was referring to the people of Bradford (myself included) not having the luxury of picking and choosing who brings in the jobs. Sorry for any confusion.
[quote][p][bold]Outraged English Subject[/bold] wrote: This is the vilest of comments I’ve had the displeasure of reading on this thread. Some people of this great Nation of ours do not consider this companies user/group as beggars or for your sad amusement![/p][/quote]To straighten out any confusion, I wasn't suggesting that PFG or thier customers were beggars. I was referring to the people of Bradford (myself included) not having the luxury of picking and choosing who brings in the jobs. Sorry for any confusion. Parz
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3:38pm Thu 8 Nov 12

allinittogether says...

Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.
Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter.

I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc.

These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery.

Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn.

That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods.

Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also.

End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities
Agreed. As you say at least there are 250 new jobs therefore 250 families in Bradford that hopefully will be better off as a result of this expansion. Let's hope more companies feel confident enough to follow suit.
You do realise we're in danger of having a sensible discussion here which will never do will it? :-)
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,[/p][/quote]I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.[/p][/quote]Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter. I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc. These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery. Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn. That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods. Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also. End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities[/p][/quote]Agreed. As you say at least there are 250 new jobs therefore 250 families in Bradford that hopefully will be better off as a result of this expansion. Let's hope more companies feel confident enough to follow suit. You do realise we're in danger of having a sensible discussion here which will never do will it? :-) allinittogether
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3:39pm Thu 8 Nov 12

allinittogether says...

Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.
Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter.

I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc.

These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery.

Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn.

That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods.

Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also.

End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities
Agreed. As you say at least there are 250 new jobs therefore 250 families in Bradford that hopefully will be better off as a result of this expansion. Let's hope more companies feel confident enough to follow suit.
You do realise we're in danger of having a sensible discussion here which will never do will it? :-)
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,[/p][/quote]I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.[/p][/quote]Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter. I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc. These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery. Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn. That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods. Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also. End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities[/p][/quote]Agreed. As you say at least there are 250 new jobs therefore 250 families in Bradford that hopefully will be better off as a result of this expansion. Let's hope more companies feel confident enough to follow suit. You do realise we're in danger of having a sensible discussion here which will never do will it? :-) allinittogether
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9:24am Fri 9 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Joedavid wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.
Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.
"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?
You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,
I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.
Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter. I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc. These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery. Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn. That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods. Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also. End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities
Agreed. As you say at least there are 250 new jobs therefore 250 families in Bradford that hopefully will be better off as a result of this expansion. Let's hope more companies feel confident enough to follow suit. You do realise we're in danger of having a sensible discussion here which will never do will it? :-)
A sensible discussion or debate on the T&A site.....that must never happen

Quick think of someone to blame for this
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: Seems they a bad company from comments made, maybe Bradford better off if they did not expand if this all correct.[/p][/quote]Yes if you believe the wingers on here. Top and bottom of this is they are creating jobs in Bradford when others (Thomas Cook etc etc etc etc ) are closing down. As to what the company does who cares. Some of the idiots on this board are under the impression the extra 250 staff will be put on the streets on Holme Wood handing out money then demanding it back with baseball bats... They are expanding their CREDIT CARD division which deals with customers nationwide not just in Bradford. These will be generally call centre staff How can employing 250 call centre staff be in any way bad for Bradford.[/p][/quote]"As to what the company does who cares." Do you really mean that? You sneered at posters who have qualms about the excessive interest rates charged by this company. So where would YOU draw the line at companies/industries you wouldn't work in or do you have no moral concerns as long as it is "legal"?[/p][/quote]You being serious. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works in finance, for example at Provident, Lloyds, Wonga, MBNA, Capital One, Barclaycard, Natwest and lets maybe chuck in some other similarities with regards to APR figures, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters or any pawn broker whatsoever has no moral values?. Well put it this way is all the employees of the above suddenly decided oh lets not work here because what we do is mean then that would cripple the country Want morals ? Where do you shop for food? Are you contributing to the supermarkets dominance over the market that has put so many local shopkeepers out of business or price fixing so local producers have to basically live off nothing? Are you by any chance sat there typing away on a cheaply produced desktop or better still an Apple product made by basically slavery in China? My point is morals are all well and good but don't judge others without first looking at yourself. At the end of the day none of us live a totally "moral" life and its near impossible to do so This article is simply about jobs being created and what the company does is irrelevant as at least its helping 250 people who would otherwise not be in work,[/p][/quote]I was serious in the respect that when you said "As to what the company does who cares." obviously you don't. Now whilst I respect that no-one can live a totally moral life there is a line of morality everyone of us would not cross, for each person that line is in a different place I merely asked where your line was. In answer to your question regarding financial services companies I do not suggest all their employees lack morals only some of them, that's why we're in the mess we're in. With regards to the Wonga, Automoney, Cash 4 Gold, Cash Converters preying mantises (mantii? :-) of this world they should be scoured from this earth and when the recovery comes hopefully they will be.[/p][/quote]Well as you put it one persons morals is anothers persons bread and butter. I would certainly work at any of these place should the need arise. Moral's are all well and good but they dont keep a roof over my head, family fed and warm etc etc etc. These companies will always be around in one form or another anyway even with a recovery. Take for example Poundland or various versions of pound shops around Bradford. I detest these shops with a passion and can honestly say have never stepped foot in them but thats purely because everything they stock is imported from China manufactered by sometimes children so no I dont support. Same goes for Apple working with Foxconn. That however doesnt mean to say my morals are right as you have stated everyone is different and whilst you may think Provident are the devil I would think the same of Pound Shops devaluing the British high street selling cheap imported goods. Everyone is different is what Im trying to say but the original point is that Provident are providing jobs here for 250 people which can only be good news. Whilst I detest the pound shops if they opened a "pound superstore" and employed 250 people I would in turn also congratulate them also. End of the day no company or business is "moral"...even blinking charities[/p][/quote]Agreed. As you say at least there are 250 new jobs therefore 250 families in Bradford that hopefully will be better off as a result of this expansion. Let's hope more companies feel confident enough to follow suit. You do realise we're in danger of having a sensible discussion here which will never do will it? :-)[/p][/quote]A sensible discussion or debate on the T&A site.....that must never happen Quick think of someone to blame for this Andy2010
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2:50pm Fri 9 Nov 12

Andy2010 says...

And now they are sponsering the Bulls.

*awaits backlash*
And now they are sponsering the Bulls. *awaits backlash* Andy2010
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10:02pm Fri 9 Nov 12

alfucham says...

So their credit card business is booming eh.

A credit card to die for after everyone else has turned you down.

says so much as to the TRUE state of the nation not the cobbled up bolloc*ks put out last month that we are officiaaly out of double dip recession.
Cobblers.

There are no green shoots.

Just expansion of more debt to heap on top of the trillions owed to the credit card exp[ansionists of the last decade.

The former head of Bradford and Bingley will never work again.

We all know someone with three to five credit cards maxed up to £3 grand on each.

What a decade of stupidity a false economic boom created by unsustainable and pop went the weasel racked up debt.

And here it continues.

How ironic they are now sponsoring the Bulls another bereft and corruptly run institution that racked up millions in unpaid bills before finally admitting the truth.

They were skint had overspent by millions and now they run to someone for sponsorship who are no doubt having to lend to the thousands of people affected by their shocking demise through corrupt mismanagement.
So their credit card business is booming eh. A credit card to die for after everyone else has turned you down. says so much as to the TRUE state of the nation not the cobbled up bolloc*ks put out last month that we are officiaaly out of double dip recession. Cobblers. There are no green shoots. Just expansion of more debt to heap on top of the trillions owed to the credit card exp[ansionists of the last decade. The former head of Bradford and Bingley will never work again. We all know someone with three to five credit cards maxed up to £3 grand on each. What a decade of stupidity a false economic boom created by unsustainable and pop went the weasel racked up debt. And here it continues. How ironic they are now sponsoring the Bulls another bereft and corruptly run institution that racked up millions in unpaid bills before finally admitting the truth. They were skint had overspent by millions and now they run to someone for sponsorship who are no doubt having to lend to the thousands of people affected by their shocking demise through corrupt mismanagement. alfucham
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