Bradford Council leader's call over £1 Odeon sale offer (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Bradford Council leader's call over £1 Odeon sale offer
7:00am Thursday 1st November 2012 in News
Council leader David Green
Council leader David Green believes the Homes and Communities Agency should offer a “realistic dowry” to enable the local authority to consider taking up its offer to buy the defunct Odeon cinema for £1.
That would allow the 1930s city centre building, which has been empty for a decade, to be maintained while its future use is determined.
Councillor David Green has been joined by city centre MP George Galloway in urging the Homes and Communities Agency (HCA) to provide sufficient cash as part of the deal, not just the £100,000 it promised.
It emerged during a special Council meeting last week that the HCA, which inherited the building from Yorkshire Forward just over a year ago, had made a formal offer to the Council.
At the time Councillor Green admitted he was not against the idea in principle, but that the authority would need to complete its own structural survey to work out any potential liabilities before it could make up its mind.
Mr Galloway (Respect, Bradford West), who wants the Council to “pay the pound” to buy the Odeon, has written to the HCA calling for it to commit more rehabilitation cash to preserving the iconic building.
Writing to Robert Napier, chairman of the HCA, he states: “In the wake of the collapse of the deal with Langtree, I note that the HCA has now given Bradford Council a choice over the Bradford Odeon. Either they pay £1 to take ownership of the building, with the HCA providing just £100,000 towards transitional maintenance costs, or the HCA will put the building back on the open market.
“I therefore urge you to revisit the transitional financial arrangements which are offered to the Council.
“Given Yorkshire Forward’s and now the HCA’s responsibility for the situation we now find ourselves in, £100,000 seems chickenfeed compared to what is needed to make up for the years of mismanagement and neglect and to help ensure the Council is in a position to take over this building and give it new life.” In urging Mr Galloway to use his position to lobby the HCA for more funding, Coun Green told him: “In this particular case if they are willing to pass on ownership they should also offer a realistic dowry to ensure that the building can be maintained while the final use is decided.”
The HCA terminated a long-standing legal agreement in September with developer Langtree, which had wanted to demolish the building and build a £40 million New Victoria Place development of offices, a hotel and apartments.
Comments(23)
RuggerTyke
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9:02am Thu 1 Nov 12
RuggerTyke
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9:07am Thu 1 Nov 12
Bradford_lad81
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9:13am Thu 1 Nov 12
On a more serious note i think its the most logical way of getting some use of the building for Bradford council to acquire it. I read yesterday that the council have a significant underspend again this year. May be some cash can be released to help restore the odeon.
johnhem
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9:18am Thu 1 Nov 12
Joedavid
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10:40am Thu 1 Nov 12
Yes funding will be required and no doubt a lot, it was got for the Alhambra which was in a very bad state years ago.
Come on David earn the £50k + you get, find the money in Bradford, the Government, Lottery, EU etc. etc.
Buy the building set up a Trust of some sort put BORG and others on it to restore and run it, lots of interest from the public at last weeks meeting who want this.
david morley
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10:43am Thu 1 Nov 12
david morley
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10:43am Thu 1 Nov 12
RuggerTyke
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10:50am Thu 1 Nov 12
david morley wrote:Because that's what we need. then, you are from Morley!
Just buy it for the £1 then use the money to knock the eyesore down. Will leave a nice empty space that will fit in nicely with the rest of out town sorry City "centre"
RuggerTyke
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10:50am Thu 1 Nov 12
david morley wrote:Because that's what we need. then, you are Morley!
Just buy it for the £1 then use the money to knock the eyesore down. Will leave a nice empty space that will fit in nicely with the rest of out town sorry City "centre"
RuggerTyke
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10:51am Thu 1 Nov 12
david morley wrote:Because that's what we need. then, you are Morley!
Just buy it for the £1 then use the money to knock the eyesore down. Will leave a nice empty space that will fit in nicely with the rest of out town sorry City "centre"
RuggerTyke
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10:51am Thu 1 Nov 12
david morley wrote:Because that's what we need, then, you are Morley!
Just buy it for the £1 then use the money to knock the eyesore down. Will leave a nice empty space that will fit in nicely with the rest of out town sorry City "centre"
Albion.
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10:59am Thu 1 Nov 12
johnhem wrote:I would disagree with your opening statement, the building was owned by others for many years, let's give the council a chance with it.
the state of the odeon is completely the councils fault. if you or i owned a shop in a prime spot in town and allowed it to be sabotaged and go to ruin we would be fined and told to sort it out. thats what the council should have done from the moment borgs pics of the cut pipes were published. the forrestation on the roof was cleared once but thats not enough, the whole lot needed a tidy up. whats the betting on this useless pathetic council missing the boat as usual and wasting so much time the opportunity is lost and the odeon sold on the open market (i would'nt be surprised for those fools to buy it then though, at full price) leaving us open to new plans for a ridiculous new building nobody really wants. find some urgency bfd council and grow a pair, then do what you are elected to do, which in case you forget is to do what the people want not what YOU decide we want.
Joedavid
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11:18am Thu 1 Nov 12
Albion. wrote:Your right, but the Council stood back and let Yorkshire Forward just let the building decay.
johnhem wrote:I would disagree with your opening statement, the building was owned by others for many years, let's give the council a chance with it.
the state of the odeon is completely the councils fault. if you or i owned a shop in a prime spot in town and allowed it to be sabotaged and go to ruin we would be fined and told to sort it out. thats what the council should have done from the moment borgs pics of the cut pipes were published. the forrestation on the roof was cleared once but thats not enough, the whole lot needed a tidy up. whats the betting on this useless pathetic council missing the boat as usual and wasting so much time the opportunity is lost and the odeon sold on the open market (i would'nt be surprised for those fools to buy it then though, at full price) leaving us open to new plans for a ridiculous new building nobody really wants. find some urgency bfd council and grow a pair, then do what you are elected to do, which in case you forget is to do what the people want not what YOU decide we want.
Also Bradford Regeneration were involved and the Council were in on that I think.
As for giving the Council chance there is not time on the side of messing about, they have a few months not years to decide to take the offer up.
HCA made it clear at last weeks meeting the deal is for this financial year, that is 5 months.
Joedavid
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11:18am Thu 1 Nov 12
Albion. wrote:Your right, but the Council stood back and let Yorkshire Forward just let the building decay.
johnhem wrote:I would disagree with your opening statement, the building was owned by others for many years, let's give the council a chance with it.
the state of the odeon is completely the councils fault. if you or i owned a shop in a prime spot in town and allowed it to be sabotaged and go to ruin we would be fined and told to sort it out. thats what the council should have done from the moment borgs pics of the cut pipes were published. the forrestation on the roof was cleared once but thats not enough, the whole lot needed a tidy up. whats the betting on this useless pathetic council missing the boat as usual and wasting so much time the opportunity is lost and the odeon sold on the open market (i would'nt be surprised for those fools to buy it then though, at full price) leaving us open to new plans for a ridiculous new building nobody really wants. find some urgency bfd council and grow a pair, then do what you are elected to do, which in case you forget is to do what the people want not what YOU decide we want.
Also Bradford Regeneration were involved and the Council were in on that I think.
As for giving the Council chance there is not time on the side of messing about, they have a few months not years to decide to take the offer up.
HCA made it clear at last weeks meeting the deal is for this financial year, that is 5 months.
johnhem
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3:19pm Thu 1 Nov 12
yorks backward and bfd degeneration stuffed us good and proper and the council allowed it so now they should buy it for that £1 and get on with the job of making something useful from it. is that a good enough chance for the council to do something?
joedavid, we both know these fools in the council could'nt organise the proverbial without a meering to arrange a meeting to form a committee to arrange a meeting to find out which way is forward and which way is back......... then they will get consultants in because they have no idea what they are doing.
my next vote for this council will be a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
Albion.
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3:28pm Thu 1 Nov 12
johnhem wrote:Well if it wasn't theirs, it isn't COMPLETELY their fault.
whats to disagree with albion? i did'nt say it was owned by the council, just allowed to deteriate by them not taking action against the owners. if your prime site shop has a rotting frontage they will make you tidy it up, even do it themselves and bill you, and quite rightly. so WHY did'nt they do that with the previous owners?
yorks backward and bfd degeneration stuffed us good and proper and the council allowed it so now they should buy it for that £1 and get on with the job of making something useful from it. is that a good enough chance for the council to do something?
joedavid, we both know these fools in the council could'nt organise the proverbial without a meering to arrange a meeting to form a committee to arrange a meeting to find out which way is forward and which way is back......... then they will get consultants in because they have no idea what they are doing.
my next vote for this council will be a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
Joedavid
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3:36pm Thu 1 Nov 12
johnhem wrote:Yes John a lot of mistakes in the past, but we are where we are today and we got to forget and move on, if David Green will let us.
whats to disagree with albion? i did'nt say it was owned by the council, just allowed to deteriate by them not taking action against the owners. if your prime site shop has a rotting frontage they will make you tidy it up, even do it themselves and bill you, and quite rightly. so WHY did'nt they do that with the previous owners?
yorks backward and bfd degeneration stuffed us good and proper and the council allowed it so now they should buy it for that £1 and get on with the job of making something useful from it. is that a good enough chance for the council to do something?
joedavid, we both know these fools in the council could'nt organise the proverbial without a meering to arrange a meeting to form a committee to arrange a meeting to find out which way is forward and which way is back......... then they will get consultants in because they have no idea what they are doing.
my next vote for this council will be a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
Consultants, gosh enough of good ones of them at the public meeting last week.
As I said needs the offer from HCA taking up and making something to put the building in public control and let them get on with the restoration. Council to get out and about to get the money in. They found £30m for the center park and fountains.
Whoisevans?
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5:27pm Thu 1 Nov 12
johnhem
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9:46pm Thu 1 Nov 12
Albion. wrote:who were the councillors that allowed themselves to be fobbed off with less than a half tour?
johnhem wrote:Well if it wasn't theirs, it isn't COMPLETELY their fault.
whats to disagree with albion? i did'nt say it was owned by the council, just allowed to deteriate by them not taking action against the owners. if your prime site shop has a rotting frontage they will make you tidy it up, even do it themselves and bill you, and quite rightly. so WHY did'nt they do that with the previous owners?
yorks backward and bfd degeneration stuffed us good and proper and the council allowed it so now they should buy it for that £1 and get on with the job of making something useful from it. is that a good enough chance for the council to do something?
joedavid, we both know these fools in the council could'nt organise the proverbial without a meering to arrange a meeting to form a committee to arrange a meeting to find out which way is forward and which way is back......... then they will get consultants in because they have no idea what they are doing.
my next vote for this council will be a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
who was it that failed to act and make the owners keep it presentable?
who was it that gave reports to this rag that were proved to be very large lies (the state of the insides), not all that was down to MUD marshall.
oh yeah, that'd be bradford councillors then.
get off your ar$e bfd council and DO something good for bradford, or is failure too ingrained by now?
still got a pulse
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10:10pm Thu 1 Nov 12
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I think it will clear up a lot of points raised here, and, I am sure, will definitely draw attention to even more points for discussion!
Albion.
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6:31am Fri 2 Nov 12
johnhem wrote:It still wasn't completely their fault.
Albion. wrote:who were the councillors that allowed themselves to be fobbed off with less than a half tour?
johnhem wrote:Well if it wasn't theirs, it isn't COMPLETELY their fault.
whats to disagree with albion? i did'nt say it was owned by the council, just allowed to deteriate by them not taking action against the owners. if your prime site shop has a rotting frontage they will make you tidy it up, even do it themselves and bill you, and quite rightly. so WHY did'nt they do that with the previous owners?
yorks backward and bfd degeneration stuffed us good and proper and the council allowed it so now they should buy it for that £1 and get on with the job of making something useful from it. is that a good enough chance for the council to do something?
joedavid, we both know these fools in the council could'nt organise the proverbial without a meering to arrange a meeting to form a committee to arrange a meeting to find out which way is forward and which way is back......... then they will get consultants in because they have no idea what they are doing.
my next vote for this council will be a vote of NO CONFIDENCE.
who was it that failed to act and make the owners keep it presentable?
who was it that gave reports to this rag that were proved to be very large lies (the state of the insides), not all that was down to MUD marshall.
oh yeah, that'd be bradford councillors then.
get off your ar$e bfd council and DO something good for bradford, or is failure too ingrained by now?
RuggerTyke
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7:17am Fri 2 Nov 12
RuggerTyke says...
9:01am Thu 1 Nov 12
You've allowed it to become dilapidated and some sabotage is involved.
Birmingham has an Odeon the same as ours and on the other side a small church where our Cathedral is.
In between ?, the Bullring shopping ring and centre, which we have the vast space to emulate!