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Loach will not be rejoining Bantams

7:18pm Monday 19th May 2008

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By Mike Crowther »

Scott Loach will not be returning to Valley Parade next season.

Stuart McCall had hoped to snap up the young goalkeeper for another loan spell from Watford after he impressed for the Bantams in the last campaign.

But the Hornets want to hang on to the 19-year-old who was attracting attention from Premier League clubs.

The City boss said: "We would definitely have liked to have kept Scott and it might have been different had Watford gone up.

"He did very well for us and it was a deal which worked both for us and Watford."

Loach played 20 games for City after joining at the end of January and ended up winning the T&A award for being the most consistent player.

Bringing in a young keeper on loan from a higher division paid off for Wycombe and Stockport, who made the play-offs with Frank Fielding (from Blackburn) and John Ruddy (from Everton) respectively.

Now McCall must decide whether to go down that route again or choose a more experienced successor.

He said: "If you go for a third-choice keeper from a Premier League or Championship club, you have to be sure he has the right temperament to be able to play in front of maybe 15,000 fans, which Scott could.

"If you go for someone with more experience, he is more likely to be able to cope with a big-match atmosphere but he would also cost more money.

"It is a balancing act."

Meanwhile, youth and reserve team striker Leon Osborne has signed a six-month contract.

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superman, Bradford says...
5:58pm Thu 22 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.
you prove my point that ur the sperm you're mum should have swallowed, ur a waste of space.

superman, Bradford says...
5:58pm Thu 22 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.
you prove my point that ur the sperm you're mum should have swallowed, ur a waste of space.

superman, Bradford says...
5:58pm Thu 22 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.
you prove my point that ur the sperm you're mum should have swallowed, ur a waste of space.

superman, Bradford says...
5:58pm Thu 22 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.
you prove my point that ur the sperm you're mum should have swallowed, ur a waste of space.

superman, Bradford says...
5:58pm Thu 22 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.
you prove my point that ur the sperm you're mum should have swallowed, ur a waste of space.

superman, Bradford says...
5:58pm Thu 22 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.
you prove my point that ur the sperm you're mum should have swallowed, ur a waste of space.

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
12:38pm Wed 21 May 08

Colin Todd was one of the worst paid managers at £63000


And look what happens when you pay 'peanuts'. Most other members of clown fraternity would love to earning that sort of money!!

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
12:38pm Wed 21 May 08

Colin Todd was one of the worst paid managers at £63000


And look what happens when you pay 'peanuts'. Most other members of clown fraternity would love to earning that sort of money!!

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
12:38pm Wed 21 May 08

Colin Todd was one of the worst paid managers at £63000


And look what happens when you pay 'peanuts'. Most other members of clown fraternity would love to earning that sort of money!!

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
12:30pm Wed 21 May 08

relatively!!
but that is for me to know and you to ask.


I did ask, and you don't know. All you have done, as usual, is speculate.

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
12:30pm Wed 21 May 08

relatively!!
but that is for me to know and you to ask.


I did ask, and you don't know. All you have done, as usual, is speculate.

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
12:30pm Wed 21 May 08

relatively!!
but that is for me to know and you to ask.


I did ask, and you don't know. All you have done, as usual, is speculate.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
10:48am Wed 21 May 08

tyker wrote:
he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway sorry who is an idiot? he was under a playing contract and by saying he was retiring he effectively gave up that contract yet City agreed for it to be continued and he could then become a coach. Did he actually offer to tear up the playing contract and renegotaie a coach's contract:if he did and we agreed we are the author or our own misfortune as a coach and manager he will never be. So City have to replace him and that adds to the wages bill: agreed no one can force him to play and he could have remained injured for a whole 12 months without a problem. The situation however is, if we believe the comments coming from the club, is that DW decided to retire from playing even though he was contracted to do so. the fact that he reneged on that did not mean we had to keep paying him nevermind continue to employ him on the same wages and significantly add to the non playing wages costs. so no idiocy here mate-- just look at the facts or , at least, those facts which have been released by the club. take out the spin which comes from the club and you will see that his employment and also that of Martyn in coaching capacities cannot be afforded. period! for once SENSELESS has talked a bit of SENSE! YES: my figures are probably a bit conservative especially when you can add possible another £40000 or so going out of the club in employer's national insurance contributions.
You say that the club has released 'facts' about Wetherall's position. When was that as I do not remember reading details of his contract.

Yes, we all know he DID have a playing contract and Wethers DID effectively cancel that by retiring. The club accepted his 'RESIGNATION' and then offered him a position as coach. That is all fact.

However, I do not remember McCall, Wethers and our Chairmen telling us that Wethers would be kept on at the club on the same wages. How do you know he hasn't been offered a new deal based on his new role? I seriously doubt Mark Lawn would allow Wethers to stay at the club on the same contract as he had before, especially as he has retired from playing.

If you do have the facts to back up your argument, please (as you have asked Sensible to do in the past) provide evidence.

On another note, I agree with you about Martyn. Yes, we do need a specialist keeper coach. Every club has one. However, an ex-England International will not be offering his services cheaply and as we don't even have a keeper at the club to coach, what is the point. Bring back Mark Prudhoe as keeper coach.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
10:48am Wed 21 May 08

tyker wrote:
he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway sorry who is an idiot? he was under a playing contract and by saying he was retiring he effectively gave up that contract yet City agreed for it to be continued and he could then become a coach. Did he actually offer to tear up the playing contract and renegotaie a coach's contract:if he did and we agreed we are the author or our own misfortune as a coach and manager he will never be. So City have to replace him and that adds to the wages bill: agreed no one can force him to play and he could have remained injured for a whole 12 months without a problem. The situation however is, if we believe the comments coming from the club, is that DW decided to retire from playing even though he was contracted to do so. the fact that he reneged on that did not mean we had to keep paying him nevermind continue to employ him on the same wages and significantly add to the non playing wages costs. so no idiocy here mate-- just look at the facts or , at least, those facts which have been released by the club. take out the spin which comes from the club and you will see that his employment and also that of Martyn in coaching capacities cannot be afforded. period! for once SENSELESS has talked a bit of SENSE! YES: my figures are probably a bit conservative especially when you can add possible another £40000 or so going out of the club in employer's national insurance contributions.
You say that the club has released 'facts' about Wetherall's position. When was that as I do not remember reading details of his contract.

Yes, we all know he DID have a playing contract and Wethers DID effectively cancel that by retiring. The club accepted his 'RESIGNATION' and then offered him a position as coach. That is all fact.

However, I do not remember McCall, Wethers and our Chairmen telling us that Wethers would be kept on at the club on the same wages. How do you know he hasn't been offered a new deal based on his new role? I seriously doubt Mark Lawn would allow Wethers to stay at the club on the same contract as he had before, especially as he has retired from playing.

If you do have the facts to back up your argument, please (as you have asked Sensible to do in the past) provide evidence.

On another note, I agree with you about Martyn. Yes, we do need a specialist keeper coach. Every club has one. However, an ex-England International will not be offering his services cheaply and as we don't even have a keeper at the club to coach, what is the point. Bring back Mark Prudhoe as keeper coach.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
10:48am Wed 21 May 08

tyker wrote:
he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway sorry who is an idiot? he was under a playing contract and by saying he was retiring he effectively gave up that contract yet City agreed for it to be continued and he could then become a coach. Did he actually offer to tear up the playing contract and renegotaie a coach's contract:if he did and we agreed we are the author or our own misfortune as a coach and manager he will never be. So City have to replace him and that adds to the wages bill: agreed no one can force him to play and he could have remained injured for a whole 12 months without a problem. The situation however is, if we believe the comments coming from the club, is that DW decided to retire from playing even though he was contracted to do so. the fact that he reneged on that did not mean we had to keep paying him nevermind continue to employ him on the same wages and significantly add to the non playing wages costs. so no idiocy here mate-- just look at the facts or , at least, those facts which have been released by the club. take out the spin which comes from the club and you will see that his employment and also that of Martyn in coaching capacities cannot be afforded. period! for once SENSELESS has talked a bit of SENSE! YES: my figures are probably a bit conservative especially when you can add possible another £40000 or so going out of the club in employer's national insurance contributions.
You say that the club has released 'facts' about Wetherall's position. When was that as I do not remember reading details of his contract.

Yes, we all know he DID have a playing contract and Wethers DID effectively cancel that by retiring. The club accepted his 'RESIGNATION' and then offered him a position as coach. That is all fact.

However, I do not remember McCall, Wethers and our Chairmen telling us that Wethers would be kept on at the club on the same wages. How do you know he hasn't been offered a new deal based on his new role? I seriously doubt Mark Lawn would allow Wethers to stay at the club on the same contract as he had before, especially as he has retired from playing.

If you do have the facts to back up your argument, please (as you have asked Sensible to do in the past) provide evidence.

On another note, I agree with you about Martyn. Yes, we do need a specialist keeper coach. Every club has one. However, an ex-England International will not be offering his services cheaply and as we don't even have a keeper at the club to coach, what is the point. Bring back Mark Prudhoe as keeper coach.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
10:02pm Tue 20 May 08

superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
10:02pm Tue 20 May 08

superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
10:02pm Tue 20 May 08

superman You prove my point. Personal again just shows your contempt and background.

superman, Bradford says...
9:51pm Tue 20 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
I am sorry to say that your language and manner is getting worse. I now realise the type of supporter who contributes must be wearing blinkers and easily taken in. Just look around and see what is happening at the Club - nothing, all talk. See Town have sold 14,000 season tickets with their straight forward and honest deal.
u really are the sperm your mum should have swallowed. CTID.

superman, Bradford says...
9:51pm Tue 20 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
I am sorry to say that your language and manner is getting worse. I now realise the type of supporter who contributes must be wearing blinkers and easily taken in. Just look around and see what is happening at the Club - nothing, all talk. See Town have sold 14,000 season tickets with their straight forward and honest deal.
u really are the sperm your mum should have swallowed. CTID.

superman, Bradford says...
9:51pm Tue 20 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
I am sorry to say that your language and manner is getting worse. I now realise the type of supporter who contributes must be wearing blinkers and easily taken in. Just look around and see what is happening at the Club - nothing, all talk. See Town have sold 14,000 season tickets with their straight forward and honest deal.
u really are the sperm your mum should have swallowed. CTID.

LeagueJunkie!!!, Lost Again. says...
6:20pm Tue 20 May 08

No doubt Sh!tty City will pick up the scraps as per usual.

LeagueJunkie!!!, Lost Again. says...
6:20pm Tue 20 May 08

No doubt Sh!tty City will pick up the scraps as per usual.

LeagueJunkie!!!, Lost Again. says...
6:20pm Tue 20 May 08

No doubt Sh!tty City will pick up the scraps as per usual.

tyker, midland road says...
6:15pm Tue 20 May 08

he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway

sorry who is an idiot?
he was under a playing contract and by saying he was retiring he effectively gave up that contract yet City agreed for it to be continued and he could then become a coach. Did he actually
offer to tear up the playing contract and renegotaie a coach's contract:if he did and we agreed we are the author or our own misfortune as a coach and manager he will never be.
So City have to replace him and that adds to the wages bill: agreed no one can force him to play and he could have remained injured for a whole 12 months without a problem.

The situation however is, if we believe the comments coming from the club, is that DW decided to retire from playing even though he was contracted to do so. the fact that he reneged on that did not mean we had to keep paying him nevermind continue to employ him on the same wages and significantly add to the non playing wages costs.

so no idiocy here mate-- just look at the facts or , at least, those facts which have been released by the club.

take out the spin which comes from the club and you will see that his employment and also that of Martyn in coaching capacities cannot be afforded. period!

for once SENSELESS has talked a bit of SENSE!

YES: my figures are probably a bit conservative especially when you can add possible another £40000 or so going out of the club in employer's national insurance contributions.

tyker, midland road says...
6:15pm Tue 20 May 08

he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway

sorry who is an idiot?
he was under a playing contract and by saying he was retiring he effectively gave up that contract yet City agreed for it to be continued and he could then become a coach. Did he actually
offer to tear up the playing contract and renegotaie a coach's contract:if he did and we agreed we are the author or our own misfortune as a coach and manager he will never be.
So City have to replace him and that adds to the wages bill: agreed no one can force him to play and he could have remained injured for a whole 12 months without a problem.

The situation however is, if we believe the comments coming from the club, is that DW decided to retire from playing even though he was contracted to do so. the fact that he reneged on that did not mean we had to keep paying him nevermind continue to employ him on the same wages and significantly add to the non playing wages costs.

so no idiocy here mate-- just look at the facts or , at least, those facts which have been released by the club.

take out the spin which comes from the club and you will see that his employment and also that of Martyn in coaching capacities cannot be afforded. period!

for once SENSELESS has talked a bit of SENSE!

YES: my figures are probably a bit conservative especially when you can add possible another £40000 or so going out of the club in employer's national insurance contributions.

tyker, midland road says...
6:15pm Tue 20 May 08

he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway

sorry who is an idiot?
he was under a playing contract and by saying he was retiring he effectively gave up that contract yet City agreed for it to be continued and he could then become a coach. Did he actually
offer to tear up the playing contract and renegotaie a coach's contract:if he did and we agreed we are the author or our own misfortune as a coach and manager he will never be.
So City have to replace him and that adds to the wages bill: agreed no one can force him to play and he could have remained injured for a whole 12 months without a problem.

The situation however is, if we believe the comments coming from the club, is that DW decided to retire from playing even though he was contracted to do so. the fact that he reneged on that did not mean we had to keep paying him nevermind continue to employ him on the same wages and significantly add to the non playing wages costs.

so no idiocy here mate-- just look at the facts or , at least, those facts which have been released by the club.

take out the spin which comes from the club and you will see that his employment and also that of Martyn in coaching capacities cannot be afforded. period!

for once SENSELESS has talked a bit of SENSE!

YES: my figures are probably a bit conservative especially when you can add possible another £40000 or so going out of the club in employer's national insurance contributions.

JM, Skipton says...
5:35pm Tue 20 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
tyker I could not agree with you more even if you are conservative with your figures. That is my whole complaint and it is the fans who are paying in the end for people at the top. You will never be able to afford decent players because of this. McCall said he wanted Weatherall to play another season but he did not want. He should have been made to play and if he refused it would have released a far amount to pay for the basics - decent fourth division players.
he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway

JM, Skipton says...
5:35pm Tue 20 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
tyker I could not agree with you more even if you are conservative with your figures. That is my whole complaint and it is the fans who are paying in the end for people at the top. You will never be able to afford decent players because of this. McCall said he wanted Weatherall to play another season but he did not want. He should have been made to play and if he refused it would have released a far amount to pay for the basics - decent fourth division players.
he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway

JM, Skipton says...
5:35pm Tue 20 May 08

Mr Sensible wrote:
tyker I could not agree with you more even if you are conservative with your figures. That is my whole complaint and it is the fans who are paying in the end for people at the top. You will never be able to afford decent players because of this. McCall said he wanted Weatherall to play another season but he did not want. He should have been made to play and if he refused it would have released a far amount to pay for the basics - decent fourth division players.
he is under contract you idiot! release him and you still have to pay his final year's wage. it's not saving money for other players. you can't force someone to play if they want to retire and there is no indication that wethers hasn't taken a coaches salary anyway

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
4:53pm Tue 20 May 08

tyker I could not agree with you more even if you are conservative with your figures. That is my whole complaint and it is the fans who are paying in the end for people at the top. You will never be able to afford decent players because of this. McCall said he wanted Weatherall to play another season but he did not want. He should have been made to play and if he refused it would have released a far amount to pay for the basics - decent fourth division players.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
4:53pm Tue 20 May 08

tyker I could not agree with you more even if you are conservative with your figures. That is my whole complaint and it is the fans who are paying in the end for people at the top. You will never be able to afford decent players because of this. McCall said he wanted Weatherall to play another season but he did not want. He should have been made to play and if he refused it would have released a far amount to pay for the basics - decent fourth division players.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
4:53pm Tue 20 May 08

tyker I could not agree with you more even if you are conservative with your figures. That is my whole complaint and it is the fans who are paying in the end for people at the top. You will never be able to afford decent players because of this. McCall said he wanted Weatherall to play another season but he did not want. He should have been made to play and if he refused it would have released a far amount to pay for the basics - decent fourth division players.

tyker, midland road says...
4:42pm Tue 20 May 08

How do you know they are all highly paid?

relatively!!
but that is for me to know and you to ask.

Put it this way DW is still on his extended playing contract:Colin Todd was one of the worst paid managers at £63000 per annum so would SM be less than that?

make you your own mind but my guess is that for DW,SM AND WJ we will not have too much change out of £300k PER ANNUM.-plus MARTYN and any others.

Now by my book for a club of our standing those figures are way too high and just not sustainable.

tyker, midland road says...
4:42pm Tue 20 May 08

How do you know they are all highly paid?

relatively!!
but that is for me to know and you to ask.

Put it this way DW is still on his extended playing contract:Colin Todd was one of the worst paid managers at £63000 per annum so would SM be less than that?

make you your own mind but my guess is that for DW,SM AND WJ we will not have too much change out of £300k PER ANNUM.-plus MARTYN and any others.

Now by my book for a club of our standing those figures are way too high and just not sustainable.

tyker, midland road says...
4:42pm Tue 20 May 08

How do you know they are all highly paid?

relatively!!
but that is for me to know and you to ask.

Put it this way DW is still on his extended playing contract:Colin Todd was one of the worst paid managers at £63000 per annum so would SM be less than that?

make you your own mind but my guess is that for DW,SM AND WJ we will not have too much change out of £300k PER ANNUM.-plus MARTYN and any others.

Now by my book for a club of our standing those figures are way too high and just not sustainable.

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
4:20pm Tue 20 May 08

All I am is saying is that can we afford such special coaches--so far as I am aware very few clubs in the lower two divisions carry effectively three highly paid coaches with specialised coaches as well.


How do you know they are all highly paid?

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
4:20pm Tue 20 May 08

All I am is saying is that can we afford such special coaches--so far as I am aware very few clubs in the lower two divisions carry effectively three highly paid coaches with specialised coaches as well.


How do you know they are all highly paid?

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
4:20pm Tue 20 May 08

All I am is saying is that can we afford such special coaches--so far as I am aware very few clubs in the lower two divisions carry effectively three highly paid coaches with specialised coaches as well.


How do you know they are all highly paid?

Chris, Bradford says...
3:27pm Tue 20 May 08

Its a shame Loach wont be returning and some of his saves were outstanding but he was young and occasianally looked edgey, didnt like back passes.

I think we need somebody with a little more experience who will breed confidence from the back and throughout the team.

Chris, Bradford says...
3:27pm Tue 20 May 08

Its a shame Loach wont be returning and some of his saves were outstanding but he was young and occasianally looked edgey, didnt like back passes.

I think we need somebody with a little more experience who will breed confidence from the back and throughout the team.

Chris, Bradford says...
3:27pm Tue 20 May 08

Its a shame Loach wont be returning and some of his saves were outstanding but he was young and occasianally looked edgey, didnt like back passes.

I think we need somebody with a little more experience who will breed confidence from the back and throughout the team.

emery, Bradford says...
1:03pm Tue 20 May 08

Bring Back Edinho!!!!

emery, Bradford says...
1:03pm Tue 20 May 08

Bring Back Edinho!!!!

emery, Bradford says...
1:03pm Tue 20 May 08

Bring Back Edinho!!!!

Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
12:46pm Tue 20 May 08

Schwarzer has been offered a new deal at 'boro and my understanding is that he is about to sign it

And he is more interested in joing Bayern. I really think that we won't be cropping up on the horizons of Mr Schwarzer anytime soon. Anyway what is it with us City fans that we always seem to harp on about bringing back ex-players, a few exceptions aside most of em weren't worth being here initially.

Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
12:46pm Tue 20 May 08

Schwarzer has been offered a new deal at 'boro and my understanding is that he is about to sign it

And he is more interested in joing Bayern. I really think that we won't be cropping up on the horizons of Mr Schwarzer anytime soon. Anyway what is it with us City fans that we always seem to harp on about bringing back ex-players, a few exceptions aside most of em weren't worth being here initially.

Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
12:46pm Tue 20 May 08

Schwarzer has been offered a new deal at 'boro and my understanding is that he is about to sign it

And he is more interested in joing Bayern. I really think that we won't be cropping up on the horizons of Mr Schwarzer anytime soon. Anyway what is it with us City fans that we always seem to harp on about bringing back ex-players, a few exceptions aside most of em weren't worth being here initially.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:44pm Tue 20 May 08

I am sorry to say that your language and manner is getting worse. I now realise the type of supporter who contributes must be wearing blinkers and easily taken in. Just look around and see what is happening at the Club - nothing, all talk. See Town have sold 14,000 season tickets with their straight forward and honest deal.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:44pm Tue 20 May 08

I am sorry to say that your language and manner is getting worse. I now realise the type of supporter who contributes must be wearing blinkers and easily taken in. Just look around and see what is happening at the Club - nothing, all talk. See Town have sold 14,000 season tickets with their straight forward and honest deal.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:44pm Tue 20 May 08

I am sorry to say that your language and manner is getting worse. I now realise the type of supporter who contributes must be wearing blinkers and easily taken in. Just look around and see what is happening at the Club - nothing, all talk. See Town have sold 14,000 season tickets with their straight forward and honest deal.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:41pm Tue 20 May 08

Still like the language which gives a full indication of the type of conributing'supporte
r'Who would want to come to City with the present regime. Until there is a complete change the Club is going nowhere as like a lot of you lot. I see Town have sold nearly 14,000 season tickets. Shows what a straight forward honest deal will do.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:41pm Tue 20 May 08

Still like the language which gives a full indication of the type of conributing'supporte
r'Who would want to come to City with the present regime. Until there is a complete change the Club is going nowhere as like a lot of you lot. I see Town have sold nearly 14,000 season tickets. Shows what a straight forward honest deal will do.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:41pm Tue 20 May 08

Still like the language which gives a full indication of the type of conributing'supporte
r'Who would want to come to City with the present regime. Until there is a complete change the Club is going nowhere as like a lot of you lot. I see Town have sold nearly 14,000 season tickets. Shows what a straight forward honest deal will do.

tyker, midland road says...
12:41pm Tue 20 May 08

Jon Pepper chose to leave the club, it was not a cost cutting exercise.

he left by mutual consent-- read into that what you want!! the fact is his wages have been saved and no replacement announced yet--was not DW when he announced his retiremnt going to get the younger players through?

my point is that with all the vast array of goal keeping coaching we have had we have NOT produced any keeper ourselves and who is capable of playing now.

All I am is saying is that can we afford such special coaches--so far as I am aware very few clubs in the lower two divisions carry effectively three highly paid coaches with specialised coaches as well.


Finally - what about that youth keeper of ours who was snapped up by Liverpool (or Middlesbrough, can't remember who)? This brought some good money into the club and obviously had some good coaching
.

agreed but did not Pepper claim credit for that one in the well publicised £160,000 worth of talent produced in the youth team!!

the player was not ready for first team football and a club has bought him in the hope he will progress.

Loach was not of our making: Ricketts was a liability and the other two released never made the grade or were considered incapable of making the grade.

The point is:we are so skint! we are scraping the very bottom of the barrel for players and offering short term contracts and on relatively poor money is MARTYN affordable!!

tyker, midland road says...
12:41pm Tue 20 May 08

Jon Pepper chose to leave the club, it was not a cost cutting exercise.

he left by mutual consent-- read into that what you want!! the fact is his wages have been saved and no replacement announced yet--was not DW when he announced his retiremnt going to get the younger players through?

my point is that with all the vast array of goal keeping coaching we have had we have NOT produced any keeper ourselves and who is capable of playing now.

All I am is saying is that can we afford such special coaches--so far as I am aware very few clubs in the lower two divisions carry effectively three highly paid coaches with specialised coaches as well.


Finally - what about that youth keeper of ours who was snapped up by Liverpool (or Middlesbrough, can't remember who)? This brought some good money into the club and obviously had some good coaching
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agreed but did not Pepper claim credit for that one in the well publicised £160,000 worth of talent produced in the youth team!!

the player was not ready for first team football and a club has bought him in the hope he will progress.

Loach was not of our making: Ricketts was a liability and the other two released never made the grade or were considered incapable of making the grade.

The point is:we are so skint! we are scraping the very bottom of the barrel for players and offering short term contracts and on relatively poor money is MARTYN affordable!!