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Food firm submits wind turbine plan

3:56am Tuesday 20th May 2008

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By Chris Holland »

Plans for a £2 million wind turbine at a Bradford soft drinks factory are back on track after a 12-month delay.

Princes Soft Drinks has submitted a planning application for the scheme at its site in Weaverthorpe Road, Tong. If approved, it would reduce the company's energy costs by about 20 per cent.

John Godfrey, Princes' operations manager, said submission of the planning application had been delayed until a bat and bird survey had been completed and this had taken 12 months.

It had originally been hoped to have the 400ft turbine up and running this year, but the company wanted to carry out extensive checks to hopefully ensure its smooth progress through the planning procedure.

Mr Godfrey said: "We are a 24-hour-a-day seven-days-a-week operation and the turbine will function around the clock.

"We therefore decided to check that it would not damage any migrating birds and also that our site was not occupied by bats which are protected species."

Mr Godfrey said the bird and bat survey was one of several checks that had been carried out in planning for the 2.3 megawatt turbine which would be the tallest in the area.

Princes had also carried out surveys covering noise pollution, the visual impact of the wind turbine, along with its potential impact on radar and radio frequency systems.

Mr Godfrey said that public consultations had also been taking place during preparation of the scheme.

An application for a wind turbine has also been submitted by the Lighthouse Group for its site on Trevor Foster Way, near the M606, where it operates a centre for young people who have been excluded from school.

The original proposal for a 15m-high turbine at the Lighthouse Group's £4.6m centre on a former landfill site off Rooley Lane was rejected by councillors following a petition from local residents.

With green issues now at the top of the business agenda, Bradford Chamber of Commerce is increasingly busy helping firms to comply with legislation, carry out energy audits and get support for schemes.

The Chamber represents about 1,100 businesses.

Bob Hudson is the chamber's environmental support officer and provides help and assistance on a wide range of energy-related matters.

He runs regular seminars and briefings of all aspects of environmental improvements and helps firms meet increasingly stringent regulations.

Mike Cartwright, the chamber's policy manager, said: "We are seeing more businesses of all types actively looking for advice on how to reduce energy consumption and bring down their costs, which have become a major burden.

"Going green is now a vital area of running a successful business. Bob is visiting more companies in the area than ever to offer expert advice and guidance."

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Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

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Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Divers_uk, Bingley says...
8:09am Tue 20 May 08

Being green does not mean inappropriate siting of inefficient heavily subsidised power plants.
Most people welcome wind turbines in the right location - one would have thought a 15m mast on a building close to a motorway would feature in that description

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
8:21am Tue 20 May 08

I have first hand knowledge of the economics regarding all types of turbines and if they think for one minute this unit will provide 20% of the power requirements then they have another thing coming unless they they have managed to get a massive subsidy.

Report this post »

gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

Report this post »

gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

Report this post »

gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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gaz4, east bowling says...
1:22pm Tue 20 May 08

Another nice attractive thing in Bradford, Things just get uglier by the day.

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Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

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Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
2:20pm Tue 20 May 08

Personally, I don't think wind generators are aesthetically displeasing, not as much of a scar on the landscape as pylons. but they must be sited suitably and take wildlife into consideration. As to how much charge they contribute, I couldn't say. But in any case, such considerations will become redundant, along with the use of fossil fuels and nuclear, when the secret technology is revealed soon. Free, Zero-Point energy has been known about for decades, and will soon be made public. Based upon the research of Nikola Tesla, and more recently, John Hutchison (The Hutchison effect), as well as the advances in Quantum Physics, it is entirely possible to obtain energy at no cost to the environment, and totally free. This is the energy form that the ancient civilzations used to levitate and manouever gigantic megalithic blocks, and is the same energy used by inter-dimensional beings (E.T.s ) to power 'UfO's. It has been kept secret to mantian the pwerbase of world politics and economies, making money for oil companies whilst keeping the world in economically enslaved.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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sigil, terminus says...
2:53pm Tue 20 May 08

Thankyou Burt Goldman.

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Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

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Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
3:05pm Tue 20 May 08

sigil wrote:
Thankyou Burt Goldman.
I take that as a compliment! The alternative gurus, Lightworkers, and proponents of the Consciousness Movement, are going to heal this world. The oil barons, warmongers and corrupt politicians are not!

Report this post »

Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:14am Wed 21 May 08

Does Hans Christian Anderson spring to mind.

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Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

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Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy:
http://www.aero2012.
com/en/papers.html

http://www.zpenergy.
com/

http://www.geocities
.com/ResearchTriangl
e/Thinktank/8863/mai
n.html

http://www.americana
ntigravity.com/hutch
ison.html

Report this post »

Woody, Manningham says...
1:50pm Wed 21 May 08

Warmongering protectors of the oil industry, Blair and Bush, were more like the brothers Grimm.

Free (Zero-Point)energy: